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The Chevrolet SS, a new, rear-wheel-drive performance sedan, has been unveiled at the Daytona International Speedway. MotorAuthority writes, "The new Chevy SS is just an update of the previous Pontiac G8, but the changes are significant enough to almost warrant this a brand new car. We're just happy Chevy is selling a rear-wheel-drive sedan in the U.S. for the first time in 17 years."

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An example of why American carmakers can't compete.

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Unless you're trying :)

#1 | Posted by Lohocla at 2013-02-20 12:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

What a stupid headline. American car makers compete just fine.

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#2 | Posted by Dave at 2013-02-20 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Call that little thing a muscle car, no way. The 68 Olds 442 I used to own - now THAT was a muscle car!

#3 | Posted by MSgt at 2013-02-20 01:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

What a stupid headline. American car makers compete just fine.
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#23 | POSTED BY DAVE AT 2013-02-20 01:36 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You have to consider the source.

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2013-02-20 02:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

The 68 Olds 442 I used to own - now THAT was a muscle car!

#24 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2013-02-20 01:59 PM | FLAG:

Performance for the 1968 Hurst/Olds (390 hp): 0–60 in 5.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.9 sec @ 103 mph (166 km/h).[7]

en.wikipedia.org

Peak output of the Chevy SS will be slightly lower, registering at 415 horsepower and 415 pound-feet of torque versus the Camaro SS' 426 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque.

Nevertheless, the auto ‘box offers an aggressive 3.27 final-drive ratio, which means the big sports sedan will be able to accelerate from 0-60 mph in about five seconds--making it one of the quickest four-doors on the market.

You were saying?

#5 | Posted by 726 at 2013-02-20 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

paddle shifters and those are just not as much fun.

that depends how far away from the ground you are and if there's a 500+ hp engine just behind the tiny little seat you've crammed yourself into.

#6 | Posted by Axiom at 2013-02-20 03:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Legacy costs have doomed the automakers, just as they will soon enough to the government that pretended to save them.

#10 | Posted by uglyblinddate

Ugly designs doomed american automakers. Designing-by-committee ruined american automakers. PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE ruined american automakers.

Why would I buy american when japanese or german (and now korean) cars last longer and look better? If they built better products they'd sell more cars and be able to cover their "legacy costs". The only legacy cost they can't afford is the cost of having a boardroom full of the same old white cowards who are afraid of bold decisions or even trying anything new.

That slanted chevy ribbon logo is a stamp of shame. They should ditch it and start over.

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2013-02-20 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

and it sits on a '68 corvair frame.

#8 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2013-02-20 03:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Chevy should make a hardtop convertible version of the Camaro.

#9 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2013-02-20 04:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

I was lucky enough to drive a Callaway Corvette in the mid 90's. That car is straight up bad ass.

#10 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2013-02-20 04:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

You were saying?

#26 | POSTED BY 726 AT 2013-02-20 02:44 PM | FLAG: EACH TO THEIR OWN AS ENGINE ALONE IS NOT WHAT GIVES ON 'Fahrvergnügen ;). I LOVED THE SMOOTH SHIFTING ON THE 442 DUE TO ITS HURST SHIFTER AND LINKAGE

#11 | Posted by MSgt at 2013-02-20 04:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Funny, I always defined a muscle car as by the high performance engine. I have been in many smooth shifting cars that are as far from a muscle car as can be.

#12 | Posted by 726 at 2013-02-20 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Only an idiot would prefer a stick to a dual-clutch automatic. You've got the option of controlling the shift yourself with the paddles, or you can let the computer handle it.

Now, the article doesn't say if this is a dual-clutch or a torque converter automatic, and yes, for performance a stick can still beat a torque converter.

But you've really got to be a moron to want a stick if it's a dual-clutch.

#13 | Posted by DarkVader at 2013-02-20 05:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Only an idiot would prefer a stick to a dual-clutch automatic."

No, people who enjoy driving do. A paddle shifter may be faster but you remove the direct link to the car. If it were not so then manually controlling an automatic would be just as good. But there is no feeling like dumping a clutch and then ripping through gears.

#14 | Posted by salamandagator at 2013-02-20 05:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

"But there is no feeling like dumping a clutch and then ripping through gears."

man, I haven't done that for a long time.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2013-02-20 06:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

I have had muscle cars trucks and high performance cars. You are straight up on crack if you think a manual floor shifter is better than a beemer with paddle shifters- I had the 2007 335i. You can do 160 mph in that car and it is as dead quiet as it is at 20 mph. Any American car with a floor shifter, yeah you may get off the line quick or even run a fine quarter mile, but oh baby- that German Engineering is were the big boys play.

#16 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2013-02-20 07:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, people who enjoy driving do. A paddle shifter may be faster but you remove the direct link to the car. If it were not so then manually controlling an automatic would be just as good. But there is no feeling like dumping a clutch and then ripping through gears.

#35 | POSTED BY SALAMANDAGATOR AT 2013-02-20 05:59 PM | FLAG: GOT IT IN ONE - IT IS THE DRIVING EXPERIENCE THAT I LOVE [NOT WHETHER ON NOT A 40 YEARS NEWER ENGINE CAN SHAVE A HALF SEC OFF 0 TO 60]

The VW people got it right in that it is the {driving experience/enjoyment}. The very reason to downshift and power through a sharp curve instead of breaking around it like 90% of drivers :

Fahrvergnügen (German pronunciation: [ˈfaːɐ̯.fɛɐ̯ˌɡnyːɡn̩]) was an advertising slogan used by the German automobile manufacturer Volkswagen in a 1990 U.S. ad campaign. That German term means "driving enjoyment" in English (from fahren, "to drive," and Vergnügen, "enjoyment").

#17 | Posted by MSgt at 2013-02-20 08:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

"But there is no feeling like dumping a clutch and then ripping through gears."

Next time you are in Vegas go to the speedway and take a Lambourghini Aventador for a few laps.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-02-20 08:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

What is this, 1978? : )

#19 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-20 08:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

"What is this, 1978?"

Naw... that would have been a Countach. :-)

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-02-20 08:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

6.2 Liter. Good for towing.

#21 | Posted by madbomber at 2013-02-20 09:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dual clutchs are like mechanical automatic transmissions.

Emphases on automatic.

rwd

#22 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2013-02-20 09:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Naw... that would have been a Countach. :-)"

Not from Chevy!

I miss standard shift. I love what you do for me, Toyota, but I miss standard shift. I also loathe anti-lock braking. Anyone with me on that?

#23 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-20 09:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

I also loathe anti-lock braking.
#44 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-20 09:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why?

rwd

#24 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2013-02-20 09:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I also loathe anti-lock braking."

brakes are over-rated anyway.

I drove a grain truck one summer for wheat harvest that had no brakes.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2013-02-20 09:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I also loathe anti-lock braking. Anyone with me on that?"

I do. I accept that it works, but the chattering bugs me and frankly, if I'm going to hit something I'd rather skid into it.

#26 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-02-20 10:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Newly married same sex couple need a sedan of their own. Rear wheel drive is the hook.

#27 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-20 11:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Newly married same sex couple need a sedan of their own. Rear wheel drive is the hook.

#48 | POSTED BY DIABLO AT 2013-02-20 11:09 PM | FLAG: hooked

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2013-02-20 11:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Made in Australia Chevrolet. Dinah Shore is rolling over.

#29 | Posted by Robson at 2013-02-20 11:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anti-lock brakes irk me (greatly) because they get in the way of my braking on a slippery surface. I like good old-fashioned brake pumping; it's how I was taught to drive, and it has always worked for me. Now, I slide more if I happen to hit a patch of slush or ice that defeats my tires. The brakes may not lock, but the system appears to lock me into a slide.

#30 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-21 08:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's using the Pontiac G8 platform? That bodes well for this car. The G8 was the BMW that Pontiac always wanted to build. It's a terrific sports sedan. It speaks to GM's general incompetence that it took so long to repackage such a strong platform.

#31 | Posted by jeffj at 2013-02-21 08:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

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