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Monday, February 18, 2013

The premise: It may not simply be television that is diminishing the quality of children's behavior, it may be bad television.

Studies done give credence to the hypothesis that better television may improve a child's behavior.

If you ask me, no kind of television is the answer. More parents parenting and less televisions parenting is the key.

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I think parents, should do I dont know, parenting. It will always do better then making TV channels change what they put on it. I dont know, I am weird.

#1 | Posted by zack991 at 2013-02-18 04:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Young adults who spent more time in front of a TV during their childhood are significantly more likely to be arrested and exhibit aggressive behavior, a new study found."

Huh? That's not what the headline says.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 04:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

when I was growing up, we had limited TV. There were 3 channels and not many programs for kids. There were no video games. We played outside with friends pretending and having many adventures. When it was yucky outside, we'd play games inside. I gained a lot of experiences first hand. Enough to tell stories about. Not sure the kids today have that for the most part.

#3 | Posted by path at 2013-02-18 05:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Having a television in the house before a kid is 12 is a very dubious idea. They get ADD from it, I believe. Concentration and patience, as well as the habit of finishing one thing before going to the next, are almost impossible to teach a kid when TV is around.
Radio is almost as bad.

#4 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-18 06:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Jesus Christ, NO. No TV is good for you, even educational TV. I'm not saying it's all bad for you, but no no no and NO. There's no "better TV" that will be "good for a child." Imaginative, creative, unstructured play and time spent with parents are what constitute "good for a child." Though my media ed gurus will slap me for saying this: Like anything, TV in moderation is fine, but it's not "good."

If I weren't so annoyed by this headline, I'd read the article. I'll come back.

#5 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-18 08:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.youtube.com

Built my first TV station in 1971.
KVUE

And yes I have the signed First Phone.

#6 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2013-02-18 08:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.youtube.com

#7 | Posted by madscientist at 2013-02-18 08:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

The hill was next to Lyndon's long standing tower; The middle of an antenna farm these days.
I shot two rattlesnakes there in August of 1971.

Some idiot took a shot at the tower lights and put a bullet through the transmission line at 750 feet; There was a VSWR trip light and the nitrogen leaked out of the transmission line.

Good thing I was there watching TV, alarm lights and pressure gauges.

#8 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2013-02-18 08:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Path your right, never see kids play outside like we use too. TV and video games are also part of the problem with fat kids everywhere these days.

#9 | Posted by patron at 2013-02-18 08:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Path your right, never see kids play outside like we use too. "

Many parents, simply put, suck.

That said, it's hard to get my kids to go outside and play. If I get off my ass, it works better. : ) When I was a lad, we loved it. All winter long, we were out every day on the sleds. All summer long, we were out rambling. Well, to be fair, we were allowed more freedom. Why are we so paranoid now? I let my kids go to the bathroom alone in a restaurant, while at a birthday party for my wife recently, and TWO of her family members nearly ripped me a new you-know-what for risking their lives like that? WTF? My older boy (8) will punch any interloper right in the nuts. He told me tonight that he'd probably try to run away before fighting unless the person tried to hurt his brother. Holy crap. Feisty little bugger.

#10 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-18 08:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

#2 All you have to do is read onto the next few paragraphs to solve the false quandary you seem to think you have found.

#11 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2013-02-19 06:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

The second study--positive results--seems to be much less exhaustive than the first, to put it mildly. And duh. Your child, exposed to violence and bad behavior, is going to exhibit more violence and bad behavior than those exposed to non-aggression and prosocial behavior. But why does the TV have to play that role at all. Watch a child's eyes after even a half-hour of any television: bleary, slow to react. Ask him or her questions: same result. TV is not a positive role model or "good" exemplar. It also acts on the brain in some less than wonderful ways. How about getting parents to engage in parenting and limiting screen time? We also limit our children's exposure to the audiobooks I listen to (say, crime novels), and we choose carefully the books we read to them and that they read. Parents' job is to guide--not shelter but guide.

#12 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-19 07:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

#12 Of course. That is my final line of my summary. Television of any kind is not the answer. Parents are the answer. Human interaction.

In my perspective, the parents job is to help the child become their own person, not like any television personality, not like any book personality, not like either parent. Their very own identity.

#13 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2013-02-19 08:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm also questioning the study that shows positive results, Heuristic. Too much TV is a bad, bad thing. I'm not fully in line with the "no TV for kids!" people, and I like TV myself (only the good stuff, natch), but few people are concerned with the dangers of TV and how we use it in our society.

#14 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-19 08:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

#14 If one were to ask me, I would propose that no amount of television renders beneficial gain. Some may not cause detriment, but none seems to bring about benefit.

#15 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2013-02-19 11:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I would propose that no amount of television renders beneficial gain."

Agreed.

en.wikipedia.org

#16 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-19 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

Mander's book is fairly interesting, but to say that TV offers nothing to anyone is silly. It's another source of information and entertainment. Like any such source, it should be used judiciously and with reflection. "TV rots your brain" is a silly stance, just like "Rock and roll corrupts the youth." The problem with TV is how we use it.

#17 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-19 12:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

"but to say that TV offers nothing to anyone is silly."

The argument is that the negative outweighs the positive, as anyone who has read his book knows.

#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-19 12:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

18: I know what the argument is, silly Nulli. I've read it. I was commenting on the general discourse, not specifically on Mander. I found his book interesting but extremely unrealistic. I meant to say earlier that it's not the four topics, but the underlying reasons/factors that are valuable. Again, it's how you use the medium. The lack of reflection for most TV viewers is the main problem (see Bill McKibben's Age of Missing Information and Neil Postman's pretty much anything). Naturally, there are numerous other factors as well. I just wanted us not to get into reductive "TV rots your brain" nonsense. It's much, much deeper than that. Btw, Nulli, I'm a media educator; I've read lots of books and studies on TV. I'm just not the doom-and-gloom kind of media educator.

#19 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-19 12:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

And Postman says (I'm paraphrasing) that it's not Starsky and Hutch and The Brady Bunch that we have to worry about; it's 60 Minutes and Sesame Street (the stuff pretending to be good for you).

#20 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-19 12:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

" I know what the argument is, silly Nulli. I've read it. "

Well that's excellent. Everyone should read that book. I haven't read it in years, but maybe I'll give it another read pretty soon.

#21 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-19 12:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

I read it maybe five years ago. If you're interested in TV, you should read Postman's Amusing Ourselves to Death (brilliant!) and McKibben's Age of Missing Information (not as brilliant, but damned good). I use the latter in my HS media course. I've been thinking of how to use the former.

#22 | Posted by pragmatist at 2013-02-19 12:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

The problem with TV is it lacks clear standards of what should and shouldn't be shown.

News isn't news

entertainment shows become political statements

reality TV has become a infection for our youngs behavior.

#23 | Posted by moneywar at 2013-02-19 04:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

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