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Sunday, February 17, 2013

Dozens of protesters gathered outside the Los Angeles Police Department headquarters Saturday carrying signs of support for Christopher Dorner, the fired police officer suspected of killing four people. Dorner died of a gunshot wound Tuesday in a Big Bear cabin that caught on fire after police fired tear gas canisters into it. The protesters said they did not condone the killings Dorner is accused of committing. "How the police handled this -– they were the judge, the jury and the executioner," said protester Michael Nam, 30. "As an American citizen, you have the right to a trial and due process by law."

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In a Friday news conference, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon defended the tactics used by his agency Tuesday, which left one of his deputies dead and another seriously wounded. "The bottom line is the deputy sheriffs of this department, and the law enforcement officers from the surrounding area, did an outstanding job," he said. "They ran into the line of fire."

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Killing is good if for the right leftist cause.

#1 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-17 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is really going to piss off LAPD-loving liberals.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-17 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dozens of protesters gathered outside the Los Angeles Police Department headquarters Saturday carrying signs of support for Christopher Dorner,

Posted by rcade at 04:45 PM | 2 COMMENTS

Well, as I was saying the other day, this is the reason Jesse James and even John Dillinger were able to get away with it for the time they did. Their action fit into someone's political agenda.

Christopher Dorner assassinated a young woman who was entirely minded her own business and was contributing towards civilization.

His grave needs to be unmarked. In fact, best bury his body at sea. And, for those of you that would make a hero out that maniac---Bite me.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2013-02-17 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Killing is good if for the right leftist cause.

#1 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-17 04:49 PMFlag: (Choose)
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This is really going to piss off LAPD-loving liberals.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-17

Both statements are more than a bit crazy. Especially given the context of Dorner's actions. No one I know favors dead volleyball coaches or dead game wardens. That's Right or Left. You folks must be in a class apart.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2013-02-17 05:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Zed, look up "facetious" as far as what I wrote. I do, however, really despise anyone who, from John Brown to this murderer, support killing like this. And many Northeaster intellectuals praised Brown!

"Well, as I was saying the other day, this is the reason Jesse James and even John Dillinger were able to get away with it for the time they did. Their action fit into someone's political agenda."

Absolutely correct.

#5 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-17 05:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Absolutely correct.

#5 | Posted by Diablo at 2013

I apologize, my friend.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2013-02-17 05:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

The dust belt Okies and such harbored some of these Depression Era bandits because they robbed only banks, which these people associated with post Civil War Yankee money. Banks were despised. Your observation a political element makes friends for criminals is spot on, Zed.
So if you ever go into crime, make sure to take a side on left or right first.

#7 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-17 05:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

" look up "facetious""

Good for you, but I wasn't being facetious at all. The emergence of LAPD-loving-liberals is an interesting development since Jan of 2009.

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-17 05:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

I really did not recall any story about liberals loving the LAPD, Null. Got any for us? It would be an unusual thing.
I guess that's why Lindsay Lohan came out for Romney: the LAPD was sure not a friend of hers!

#9 | Posted by Diablo at 2013-02-17 06:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

And, for those of you that would make a hero out that maniac---Bite me.

So I see you're going to go down the simpleton, binary, Dorner or police route.

You only had to read the summary to see you're being idiotic. Sheesh.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-17 06:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

You pull a gun on a cop, you're dead. Pretty f'ing simple.

#11 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2013-02-17 06:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why do so many people insist on making everything a choice between "left" and "right?" It only proves what a simpleton you are. The world is far more complex than that.

#12 | Posted by cbob at 2013-02-17 07:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

So I see you're going to go down the simpleton, binary, Dorner or police route.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02

I'm on the side of the young volleyball coach who was murdered by Dorner. Her crime, according to Dorner, was to have a father who failed to get him off on certain charges.

Bite me.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2013-02-17 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

"We don't condone the killings."

Glossing over homicide is for moral idiots.

#14 | Posted by dean_buvia at 2013-02-17 08:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

.... Where are all the White House Protesters?

**** The "Corruption,Violence & Evil Influence" of the LAPD is just a microscopic spec in the Bucket compared to that of the Obama Govt!!!

#15 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2013-02-17 08:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Where are all the White House Protesters?"

Camped outside the White House on an almost continuous basis. Why?

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2013-02-17 08:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm on the side of the young volleyball coach who was murdered by Dorner. Her crime, according to Dorner, was to have a father who failed to get him off on certain charges.

What about the side of every other innocent victim of murder? What about children who've been molested? Or women who've been raped? Old or infirmed people who've been abused?

Does being on their side mean we withhold due process rights to those suspects as well? What's the criteria here for deciding who's worthy of due process and who's not? Are any of these crimes any less abhorrent than the others?

Be careful in selectively forgoing Constitutional rights because the specifics disgust you, it's an awfully slippery slope.

Bite me.

Take a deep breath old man, stroking out doesn't help anyone.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-17 08:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Glossing over homicide is for moral idiots.

Indeed.

Even when it's perpetrated by police officers.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-17 08:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dorner had said that he was prepared to die. If he had come out without arms and with his hands up, he would have been tried. Those protesters forget that he had killed three people who had no trial and no conviction, but still got the death penalty. The daughter of the policeman was completely innocent of doing any harm to Dorner.

#19 | Posted by Donald at 2013-02-17 08:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dorner had said that he was prepared to die. If he had come out without arms and with his hands up, he would have been tried.

#19 | Posted by Donald at 2013

Donald's attitude is close to my own.

I would have given a trial to Osama ben Laden. But he was ten years running from justice, evading said trial, and spent the last few seconds he had to take advantage of his day in court hiding behind one of his wives and endangering her life.

I've never lived in southern California. Its been interesting to see the hard-on a lot of you have for the LAPD.

My sympathies are usually on the side of the person who gets the dirty end of the stick. That wasn't Dorner. That was, among others, a rookie policeman who was probably wondering what his wife would cook him that evening for dinner seconds before he was shot dead.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2013-02-17 10:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

The cops shot what? Like five innocents unrelated to dorner and you all think the lapd did an excellent job?

#21 | Posted by klifferd at 2013-02-17 11:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

My sympathies are usually on the side of the person who gets the dirty end of the stick. That wasn't Dorner. That was, among others, a rookie policeman who was probably wondering what his wife would cook him that evening for dinner seconds before he was shot dead.

Yeah, which all sucks beyond comprehension and for which he deserved the needle.

But this isn't about sympathies, at least not from my perspective.

Civil rights have to apply to criminals as much as anyone else lest abuse become too easy (which it sadly already appears to be).

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2013-02-17 11:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Its been interesting to see the hard-on a lot of you have for the LAPD. "

Yes it is. What's your excuse?

#23 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 06:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

Lots of real Einsteins seem confused over who shot Dorner.

Dorner shot Dorner.

#24 | Posted by Sully at 2013-02-18 12:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Civil rights have to apply to criminals as much as anyone else-"

JPW gets it.

#25 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2013-02-18 03:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

If he had come out without arms and with his hands up, he would have been tried.

You're living in a fantasy land. He would have been shot in the doorway. The chicken-hearted LAPD already shot more innocent people chasing Dorner than Dorner shot.

Apparently the readers here are completely incapable of doing root cause analysis. Dorner, a young idealist, reported inappropriate police brutality committed by a senior officer. For this he was made a target - his career - and ultimately his life - were destroyed by a bunch of vengeful cowboys on a power trip. That was wrong. That requires investigation. Although I suspect it will just be a lot of lip service.

I live in SoCal. The average citizen here basically agreed with Dorner's position while disagreeing with his tactics (attacking family members). Not too many were unhappy to see the cops seeing how the shoe on the other foot feels. I heard more than once from the average man on the street that he feared the cops on duty more than Dorner - at least Dorner had a moral compass even if it went south.

If you heard the audio captured - it is pretty clear the cops in Big Bear set fire to that house. Capture was never an option. Many were disappointed that he didn't remain at large longer - although I stress again - attacking innocent family members was considered out of bounds.

The real tragedy would be to fail to learn the lessons that lead up to Dorner cracking. There are other former officers out there telling the same story of department corruption. It sucks here in SoCal that way - the cops are corrupt, the judges maybe more so. This incident was a long time coming. Maybe you want to google Kelly Thomas Orange County Video to see what I mean.

You black and whiters maybe ought to think hard just what would drive a man to such an act. Probably something there needs fixed before the next one cracks.

#26 | Posted by Centrist at 2013-02-18 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I live in SoCal. The average citizen here basically agreed with Dorner's position while disagreeing with his tactics (attacking family members). "

Exactly. Most Retorters are retards who know nothing about it. I've lived many years in SoCal. The LAPD is a racist, violent, corrupt gang and Angelenos were, in some instinctual way, pulling for Dorner, and that says it all.

The only ones supporting the LAPD nationally were Obamabots, for some odd reason.

#27 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 03:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

The LAPD is a racist, violent, corrupt gang and Angelenos were, in some instinctual way, pulling for Dorner, and that says it all.

#27 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 03:49 PMFlag: (Choose)
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How long would you folks like to have seen the man free and armed? Or does "pulling" for someone have a special meaning in California?

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2013-02-18 03:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I live in SoCal. The average citizen here basically agreed with Dorner's position while disagreeing with his tactics (attacking family members). "

#27 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 03:

Uniforms were fair game?

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2013-02-18 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I heard more than once from the average man on the street that he feared the cops on duty more than Dorner - at least Dorner had a moral compass even if it went south."

Well, nobody outside SoCal has ever accused SoCal to be a hotbed of deep thought.... Dorner was a dirtbag who made excuses to murder people when things didn't go his way. His justifications for doing what he did were childishly self serving and representative of someone without any morals at all. "I'm mad so I'm going to kill people using the most vapid and intellectually insulting arguments possible to justify my tantrum....."

He's worse than the cops who killed those innocent people in a panic (although I hope they fry for what they did too). They did what they did out of stupidity, fear and cowardice. Dorner killed for immature spite.

#30 | Posted by Sully at 2013-02-18 03:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

A moral compass precludes going on a murderous rampage with malice aforethought.

#31 | Posted by madscientist at 2013-02-18 03:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Frank Serpico

en.wikipedia.org

#32 | Posted by madscientist at 2013-02-18 04:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"How long would you folks like to have seen the man free and armed?

At least as long as the racist, violent murderous LAPD is still terrorizing the residents of Los Angeles, which they've been doing for decades.

In another era "liberals" hated the LAPD. Now they applaud. That's why they are called authoritarian-liberals.

#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 04:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Well, nobody outside SoCal has ever accused SoCal to be a hotbed of deep thought...."

That comes from the hotbed of deep thought known as New Jersey, folks, so judge accordingly.

#34 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 04:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

"#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 04:08 PM | Reply | Flag:"

Dorner murdered four people. None of them were members of LAPD and half of them weren't cops.

Sheesh.

#35 | Posted by Sully at 2013-02-18 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

"That comes from the hotbed of deep thought known as New Jersey, folks, so judge accordingly."

Average IQ by state:

1. Massachusetts 102.4
2. New Jersey 101.4
3. Vermont 101.2
4. Minnesota 101.0
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46. West Virginia 94.9
47. Alabama 94.9
48. California 94.9
49. New Mexico 94.8
50. Mississippi 93.8

anepigone.blogspot.com

#36 | Posted by Sully at 2013-02-18 04:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

"1. Massachusetts 102.4
2. New Jersey 101.4
3. Vermont 101.2
4. Minnesota 101.0
."

That can't possibly be true. I can understand why high IQ people like myself would live in MA or Vermont or Cali, but New Jersey?!?

#38 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 04:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Texas is ahead of CA in IQ?

And Mississippi!!

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-18 04:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Being critical of the LAPD is a far cry from being supportive of Dorner in any way, shape or form.

#40 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-18 04:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

To understand the low overall IQ of California, drive through the Central Valley and view the tens of thousands of field workers who mostly do not speak English, nor read and write.

#41 | Posted by moder8 at 2013-02-18 04:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"That's a fact, regardless of what clueless bloggers from New Jersey think."

Agreeing with his "position" while disagreeing with his "tactics" is thoughtless babble.

His "position" was that anyone who Dorner thought needed to die in order for Dorner to make his point should die.

His "tactic" was to shoot them.

You can't distinguish between murdering innocent people and his position.

You can't play the part of the informed thinker when you're wallowing in the gutter with a face covered in feces. Dorner was a selfish murderer, nothing more.

#42 | Posted by Sully at 2013-02-18 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

"That can't possibly be true. I can understand why high IQ people like myself would live in MA or Vermont or Cali, but New Jersey?!?"

To be fair, I think those numbers are BS. But they were funny enough that I had to post anyway.

#43 | Posted by Sully at 2013-02-18 04:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

"drive through the Central Valley and view the tens of thousands of field workers who mostly do not speak English, nor read and write."

In Cali, we call that the New Jersey sector.

#44 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-18 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Breaking: Ghost of Dorner killed Jerry Buss

#45 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2013-02-18 06:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

>Dorner killed for immature spite.

Why was he fired again? Oh yeah, spite for reporting an officer kicking a restrained mentally ill prisoner in the face - out of I guess spite.

Rodney King incident changed nothing.

And what was Kelly Thomas killed for again? Even the middle class good kids in this town hate/fear the cops.

#46 | Posted by Centrist at 2013-02-19 04:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Why was he fired again? Oh yeah, spite for reporting an officer kicking a restrained mentally ill prisoner in the face - out of I guess spite."

So now whatever Dorner says is gospel? Given his ludicrous justifications for murdering innocent people, he could have easily justified to himself bearing false witness against someone who ticked him off off.

I'm sure the LAPD is guilty of brutality all the time. Doesn't mean I believe anything an obvious sociopath like Dorner has to say.

We don't live in a world where every fight has a good guy and a bad guy. Its mostly bad guys fighting each other.

#47 | Posted by Sully at 2013-02-19 08:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

"How long would you folks like to have seen the man free and armed?

At least as long as the racist, violent murderous LAPD is still terrorizing the residents of Los Angeles, which they've been doing for decades.

#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-

Ah, so Dorner is your Jesse James. A terrorist entirely to your taste.

Your opinion of the LAPD may be entirely correct. So is, unfortunately, my opinion of you.

#48 | Posted by Zed at 2013-02-19 09:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

$26 gets a NW flag.

The only ones supporting the LAPD nationally were Obamabots, for some odd reason.

Probably because they had just finished supporting Obama's own denial of due process to an American. The argument was still fresh in their minds.

#49 | Posted by JOE at 2013-02-19 09:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

#49 | Posted by JOE

At least they are being consistent. They support one of the worst violators of civil liberties in U.S. law enforcement, the LAPD, and one of the worst Presidents on civil liberties.

Obama: A disaster for civil liberties
Op-Ed
He may prove the most disastrous president in our history in terms of civil liberties.
September 29, 2011|By Jonathan Turley

articles.latimes.com

#50 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-19 10:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

#36 | Posted by Sully

So, if someone lived in South Dakota and had a below average IQ of 100 (avarage is 100.5), and they moved to California where 94.9 is the average, they would improve the intelligenc of both states.

#51 | Posted by Marty at 2013-02-19 11:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

"So, if someone lived in South Dakota and had a below average IQ of 100 (avarage is 100.5), and they moved to California where 94.9 is the average, they would improve the intelligenc of both states."

Yes. And if that happened enough times, Cali could possibly break their tie with Alabama and West Virginia.

#52 | Posted by Sully at 2013-02-19 01:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

How Law Enforcement and Media Covered Up the Plan to Burn Christopher Dorner Alive

www.alternet.org

#53 | Posted by nullifidian at 2013-02-19 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

>So now whatever Dorner says is gospel?

When a man sacrifices his life for a cause, its probably worth checking out his story with an open mind.

#54 | Posted by Centrist at 2013-02-19 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

"When a man sacrifices his life for a cause, its probably worth checking out his story with an open mind."

That you can't even talk about him honestly is rather sad.

He didn't sacrifice himself for a cause. He killed himself rather than face responsiblity for what he did. Spree killers kill themselves at the end of their rampages quite often. He no more stood for a cause than that Lanza kid or the Columbine brats did.

#55 | Posted by Sully at 2013-02-19 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

OK. I think Obama was wrong to have started that fire.

Happy now?

Hilarious. This murderer will be a hero to some, just like The Davidians.

#56 | Posted by Corky at 2013-02-19 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

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