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Friday, January 27, 2012

Six Americans working for pro-democracy U.S.-funded organizations in Egypt have been barred from leaving the country -- including the son of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood. "I call on the Egyptian government and the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces to cease the harassment and unwarranted investigations of American NGOs operating in Egypt," said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who chairs one of the groups.

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So much for that Arab Spring...

#1 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2012-01-27 07:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well it is winter after all Exp.

With the Muslim brotherhood firmly in control now do you really expect the Egyptians to treat Americans with any kind of respect? They went from Bad to worse. But hey, I say we double down, give the 3 billion dollars and buy back our precious IRI and NDI folks.

Could someone please explain why the US has NGO's there trying to instill western beliefs on a NA nation? Pull the funding and leave the instigators to their own devices.

#2 | Posted by Tedly at 2012-01-27 08:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

"With the Muslim brotherhood firmly in control now do you really expect the Egyptians to treat Americans with any kind of respect?" You're clearly uninformed, the military is in control. Read something.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2012-01-27 08:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

So much for that Arab Spring...

It would have been much better had we installed our own dictators like Harmid Karzai, the Shah or Saddam.

#1 | POSTED BY EXPSREDEMPTION AT 2012-01-27 07:29 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2012-01-27 08:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2012-01-27 08:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wrong. I was saying that this did not turn out as well as the "hope and change" crowd was telling everyone it definitely would.

It just got worse for them. And in Libya, the Militias are doing the very same thing the government was doing under Gaddafi.

It seems you can't handle the fact that most everyone else can say to people like you "We told you so!!"

#5 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2012-01-27 08:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

Could someone please explain why the US has NGO's there trying to instill western beliefs on a NA nation?
.........probably CIA.......

Pull the funding and leave the instigators to their own devices.
#2 | Posted by Tedly

.......I agree with this.......should be no more foreign aid to anyone until the debt is under control......

#6 | Posted by skizziks at 2012-01-27 08:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

.......I agree with this.......should be no more foreign aid to anyone until the debt is under control......

#6 | Posted by skizziks at 2012-01-27 08:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama did just say "no more handouts, no more bailouts" in his SOTU address.

Maybe he is working on stopping the foreign aid (handouts) to Egypt...

If not... at least we can "hope"... right?

#7 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2012-01-27 08:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe he is working on stopping the foreign aid (handouts) to Egypt...
If not... at least we can "hope"... right?
#7 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

......he did not say that he was reducing any foreign aid already committed, but I wish he would, and I do hope he gets spending under control......I'm not sure if the kind of friends you get with handouts (Pakistan, etc.) are worth having.....

......the armed forces reductions are a step in the right direction, but I do wish he had done more reductions there......

#8 | Posted by skizziks at 2012-01-27 08:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

#8 | Posted by skizziks at 2012-01-27 08:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

I know he didn't say that... of course if he really meant "no more handouts, no more bailouts" he would have stopped that aid once this issue came up. I thought we did not fund organizations of terror?

Don't you think the Egyptian leadership is currently causing some terror?

#9 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2012-01-27 08:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Wrong. I was saying that this did not turn out as well as the "hope and change" crowd was telling everyone it definitely would."

I beg your pardon, we never promised you a rose garden. The people of Egypt forced Mubarak to step down, that's a good thing, now the military is turning into a new dictatorship, only a partisan hack would try to make this into a gotcha moment now. The truth is, we didn't get involved in Egypt dumb ass, quit trying to make partisan points out of non-partisan events. YOu are a joke lately Apparently, you think we should have backed Mubarak against the people of Egypt, thank God folks like you are no longer in charge of our country, those folks have fucked things up enough, the best thing you could do is STFU.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2012-01-27 08:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

#10 | Posted by danni at 2012-01-27 08:48 AM | Reply | Flag: derp-a-derp-a-derp

I mentioned Libya as well. Get with the program. I know you are making your rounds of ignorance early this morning. Maybe you will have something more cogent and reasonable to say later on in the day.

We'll see.

Show me when I said we should have backed Mubarak against the Egyptian people? That's right... you made that up... because you are ignorant.

All most people said was that the Egyptians need to be very careful, otherwise exactly what is happening would happen.

And here we are... with what all the non "hope without reason" people expected.

"best thing you could do is STFU." - Like I said in the other thread Practice what you preach... PLEASE!

#11 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2012-01-27 08:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

I thought we did not fund organizations of terror?
#9 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

.....one side's freedom fighter is another sides terrorist.......

.......remember that Saddam was our friend, until we decided that he was'nt......

#12 | Posted by skizziks at 2012-01-27 08:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

#12 | Posted by skizziks at 2012-01-27 08:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

And that is why Ron Paul is in line with the early founding fathers and ancient Greek thinkers.

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world"
-George Washington

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations...entangling alliances with none."
-Thomas Jefferson

"Close alliances with despots are never safe for free states"
-Demosthenes

#13 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2012-01-27 09:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

"And that is why Ron Paul is in line...ancient Greek thinkers."

Absolutely. Especially Aristotle, Leucippus, and Democritus and their certitude in the existence of a a flat Earth.

#14 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2012-01-27 09:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Six Americans working for publicly funded U.S. organizations promoting democracy in Egypt ..."

They wanted to interfere and get involved in Egyptian politics. This is what happens to people who get involved in Egyptian politics.

#15 | Posted by Sully at 2012-01-27 09:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

The left are not only evil but paralleling that is their stupidity. The Arab Spring has morphed into the Arab Winter. I might add the Obama administration is just a reactive administration incapable of having any kind of plan, whether domestic or foreign. Their one plan in the foreign policy area is to extend the Bush plan----control of the production and distribution of the oil of the middle east---it's rather simple. There is indeed no "hope and no change".

#16 | Posted by matsop at 2012-01-27 09:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The left are not only evil..."

Weren't you decrying sweeping generalizations just a few days ago?

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2012-01-27 09:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

#13 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

.......I agree that we should have strived for those three principles, however, history has shown us that that ship has sailed.......

#18 | Posted by skizziks at 2012-01-27 10:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

#18 | Posted by skizziks at 2012-01-27 10:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Unfortunately, and people don't have any intention of making a new ship.

#19 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2012-01-27 10:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

Weren't you decrying sweeping generalizations just a few days ago?

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2012-01-27 09:36 AM | Reply

Nope, I think you were confused again and reading one of your own posts.

#20 | Posted by matsop at 2012-01-27 10:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

With this administration other nations laugh at our 'outrage'.

#21 | Posted by MSgt at 2012-01-27 11:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

"With this administration other nations laugh at our 'outrage'."

No kidding. Amazing how quick we were to protect all those from a massacre in Libya, yet watch as a real one exists in Syria. Obama caves in to the Arab League to take out Khaddafi, then can't be found.

Of course Hillary considers Assad a reformist and asset in the region. Coupled with Obama being scared shitless of the Russians and giving in to their threats not to go near Syria...

But hey, he got OBL so his work in the ME is done.

#22 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2012-01-27 11:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Arab Spring has morphed into the Arab Winter....
#16 | Posted by matsop

Hard to tell if your statements along this line are born of stupidity, ignorance or both. But one thing's clear: you have a stunted, worm's eye view of history's sweep.

#23 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2012-01-27 11:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Hard to tell if your statements along this line are born of stupidity, ignorance or both. But one thing's clear: you have a stunted, worm's eye view of history's sweep."

Actually, most third world revolutions end with one dictator replacing another. History is against those who were touting Arab Spring as a the dawning of a new age.

#24 | Posted by Sully at 2012-01-27 12:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

So much for that Arab Spring...

The America Revolution took more than 7 years and included torture, lynchings and mass deportations.

The Civil War took more than 5 years and included all those goodies, plus wonderful things like Andersonville.

It's really too bad conservatives function in their own reality, instead of the one the rest of us live in.

#25 | Posted by northguy3 at 2012-01-27 08:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sounds like a pyramid scheme.

#26 | Posted by cookfish at 2012-01-27 09:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Stupid punks they should've been doing something safer like hiking along the Iraqi-Iranian border

#27 | Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2012-01-27 09:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Arab Spring has morphed into the Arab Winter....

Conservatives must blame Bush for marching democracy around the ME, right?

#28 | Posted by northguy3 at 2012-01-27 10:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Conservatives must blame Bush for marching democracy around the ME, right?"

Not sure. Hasn't Bush killed more muzzys than Assad, Mubarak, Khaddaffy, and Saddam combined?

#29 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2012-01-27 10:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

"And that is why Ron Paul is in line...ancient Greek thinkers."

Absolutely. Especially Aristotle, Leucippus, and Democritus and their certitude in the existence of a a flat Earth.

#14 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 2012-01-27 09:12 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Flag: Long on accusations short on reasoning skills.

It's no wonder a college education isn't what it use to be???

#30 | Posted by Dirk at 2012-01-28 08:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama should get some advice from Mr. Peanut on how to handle this hostage situation.

#31 | Posted by fwthom at 2012-01-28 09:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

#14 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 2012-01-27 09:12 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Flag: Long on accusations short on reasoning skills.

It's no wonder a college education isn't what it use to be???

#30 | Posted by Dirk at 2012-01-28 08:53 AM | Reply

I didn't realize Doc had a college education; I always thought he was only a GED (General Equivalency Dunderhead)----doggone, I'm going to have to apologize to the basement rat again.

#32 | Posted by matsop at 2012-01-28 11:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

You GOTPers are hillarious...

First, when the Arab Spring came about you all screamed how it had nothing to do with Obama...

Now when it didn't work out how we all hoped you blame the man...

Which is it???

The GOTP: shorting ideas, consistency, rationale and a grasp on reality, long on hindsight criticism...

#33 | Posted by CaptOfUranus at 2012-01-28 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Capt--turn that around and you find the same question--which is it?

The Arab Spring had nothing to do with anything Obama did.

But when he opened his mouth and announced that Mubarak should step down--he stepped in it.

Meanwhile hundreds of citizens of Syria were being killed by Assad and Hillary said the guy was a 'reformer' so let him be. Again they stepped in it. Now the killings are in the thousands.

We have had these NGOs in Egypt for 7 years--operating without problems.

Now they are kidnapped--detained--banned from traveling or leaving the country.

Blame it on the military--blame it on the islamists (MB) who won the parliament.

But Obama has to fix this situation--because he helped create it by opening his big mouth.

There is no Seal Team 6 operation for this rescue.

It's over money and we haven't given them their due--1.3 billion to be exact--so they detained our NGO workers.

#34 | Posted by MURPHY at 2012-01-28 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

I hope they are executed.

#35 | Posted by jackass at 2012-01-28 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Americans are not allowed to leave Egyptian bars, this is outrageous?

~~~~~~~ Emilee Latella

#36 | Posted by glasshouse at 2012-01-29 10:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

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