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Pressured by a growing clamor from New York, the Obama administration has decided to move the trial of Sept. 11 terror suspects away from Manhattan, where it had been scheduled to take place just blocks from the site of the twin towers attack. "New York is out," one unnamed administration official told the New York Post. "We're considering other options."

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just fucking send him back to Gitmo... or better yet, just disappear him. A few people will cry and whine for a week or two and then he'll be forgotten.

Holder may have thought NYC a good idea, but the boss overruled.

Can I buy pot from you?

You're saying Holder went rouge on this? LOL Really? Obama didn't support it at all?

Holder is carrying Obama's water 100%.

The Attorney General's office decides where federal trials will be held in cases they bring from D.C. - until they're overruled by 'the boss' as they were in this case.

No President gets into the minutiae of cabinet departments unless it becomes necessary.

How's the little one Rob? Must be riding a bike by now ...

"Attorney General Eric Holder announced last year that the trial would be held in Manhattan federal court.."

www.time.com

No President gets into the minutiae of cabinet departments unless it becomes necessary.

You don't think the President had any say in bringing "The Mastermind of 9/11" from Gitmo to NYC. Come on man, that's crazy talk. Granted Obama wouldn't be involved in the day to day workings of the Justice Department but this? Hell yes Obama was involved in this.

Kids doing good thanks... but just over 2... no bikes.

This is what you get when you have Marxist Lawyers running this once great county.

The trial will still be held in NYC, but on an island or a military baae near the city.

We're about to spend 200 Million of a terrorist who has already said he's guilty and proud of it.

But WTF, most of "The Emnpty Suit & Chief's" appointees are tax cheats, so it's not their money!!

Rob

Hundreds have been released from Gitmo in the past couple years. This was Holder's call, and he got it wrong. I disagreed with that decision and said "WTF?" when I heard about it. It was a stupid idea.

You must be a proud papa for sure. Hopefully you haven't let him watch "Meet The Parents" where the 2 year old in the movie learns your online last name as his first word :-)

It's good that a decision has been made to move the trial. My suggestion would be to hold the trial in a corn field, mid-Kansas.

Democrats were the ones who put pressure on Obama to move the trials--Feinstein, Schumer, etal. Thie is getting monotonous but poor Obama--one decision after another a disaster--this country is in deep trouble with the decisions being made. This poor guy is out of his element---Keystone cops running around and into each other, but I don't want to insult keystone cops.

#9 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY


assss-hhhhhhhhooooooolle

lol

funny movie..

So Obama overruled Holder and his dog on his decision to have KSM tried in NYC.


Did Obama want the trial on Governor's Island--or something??

I want the trial to be in New York,its not like terrorism is at the top of the list to get you killed.
Ask any lib on drudge and they will confirm it for me.Basicaly the lines goes something like,
~terrorism is manufactured by the government to keep the people in fear~
but when it's time to put their principle on the line they run like yellow fucking cowards.

Leftist fucking cowards.

rwd

And then we have Newburg NY that says, hold the trial in our town,it would be good publicity for us and get some federal dollars.
Federal dollars to fix all the blown out buildings and rebuild that decaying shithole.
Sick.

rwd

#12 | Posted by MURPHY

Spoken with an underscore between syllables no less LOL

bunch of pussies.

send him here to san diego, we'll deal with it.

Illegal Show Trial + Tortured "Suspects" Can't be Prosecuted!!!

They couldn't have had a 911 Trial in New York anyways...not a real one that is! You can't have a "Legal" trial in any US Court where all the defendants have been systematically "Tortured" and deprived of their human rights for years! If this "Abomination" of a trial had even got underway in New York it would have been damned as illegal and anti-democratic from the start and all the prosecutors and judges "Villified" as Nazis in a Kangaroo Court!!! This is the real reason they don't want this illegal "Atrocity" of a Show Trial to take place in New York because it will destroy and end the careers of all the high profile prosecutors and judges involved!

Cleveland or Des Moines, or LA, woudl suit me fine.

so what.

dumbasses.

Funny how this thread keeps disappearing.

KBM will NOT be tried in NYC.

Seems simple enough. But every thread on the topic quickly focuses on the Obamanation and his 'not ready for prime time' goons.

And then the thread disappears. Again.

And again.

Sorry, Rogers, but this creep should be tried in Luxurious Club Gitmo. It's a secure, federal facility specifically designed to adjudicate accused terrorists.

Plus, it has signs that point the way to Mecca



Where were all you pants-pissing whiners when they tried all of the other terrorists in NYC?

Oh yeah....that President was white!

And then we have Newburg NY that says, hold the trial in our town,it would be good publicity for us and get some federal dollars.
Federal dollars to fix all the blown out buildings and rebuild that decaying shithole.
Sick.

rwd

#15 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2010-01-30 12:32 AM | Reply | Flag:


YEAH!!

How 'sick' of them to want to revitalize their town all while not cowering in fear. Sick! Sick I say!!!

This is what you get when you have Marxist Lawyers running this once great county.

The trial will still be held in NYC, but on an island or a military baae near the city.

We're about to spend 200 Million of a terrorist who has already said he's guilty and proud of it.

But WTF, most of "The Emnpty Suit & Chief's" appointees are tax cheats, so it's not their money!!

#8 | Posted by Docsmooth at 2010-01-29 11:01 PM | Reply | Flag:


I guess BushCo's lawyers were all 'Marxists' (not sure you even know what it means) for trying terrorists in NYC too?

Coward.

Democrats were the ones who put pressure on Obama to move the trials--Feinstein, Schumer, etal. Thie is getting monotonous but poor Obama--one decision after another a disaster--this country is in deep trouble with the decisions being made. This poor guy is out of his element---Keystone cops running around and into each other, but I don't want to insult keystone cops.

#11 | Posted by matsop at 2010-01-29 11:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh FatSlop, you silly little bitch.

Can you please point out exactly what he's done that is a 'disaster' for this country? Please back it up with facts and not the lies Limbaugh and Hannity tell you to spew.

...that President was white!

Thank you captain (nope, you deserve a promotion) brigadier general obvious.


Democrats were the ones who put pressure on Obama to move the trials--Feinstein, Schumer, etal. Thie is getting monotonous but poor Obama--one decision after another a disaster--this country is in deep trouble with the decisions being made. This poor guy is out of his element---Keystone cops running around and into each other, but I don't want to insult keystone cops.


#11 | Posted by matsop at 2010-01-29 11:16 PM | Reply | Flag:


Oh FatSlop, you silly little bitch.


Can you please point out exactly what he's done that is a 'disaster' for this country? Please back it up with facts and not the lies Limbaugh and Hannity tell you to spew.

#24 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

Commicallydense, here's a list:

1--A stimulus plan that was full of pork and didn't generate the jobs he envisioned and now will be added to our national debt--no leadership by not controlling reid/pelosi.

2--His schizophrenic response to banks/wallstreet resulting in lack of confidence and planning--markets are in the process of rolling over again.

3--His attempts to mollify the muslin world and by fiat the "terrorists" early on with sweet talk and the refusal to call a spade a spade---and then to move to civilian trials in NYC which he'll now have to change his position on since it is obvious it was poorly thought out (remember, this guy was suppossed to be deliberative---well, you can sit and ponder your navel until the cows come home but that doesn't mean you'll make the right decisions (which he hasn't in this case)---also, I'll predict that if these trials do occur in civilian courts, it'll reveal once more it was not the right decision.

4--healthcare disaster--once out of committees the lack of transparency and the backroom deals being cut subsequently deepsixing a potential good plan--allowing Pelosi/Reid to do their thing again without showing the leadership necessary to control the process.

5---His lack of emphasis of a cohesive plan out of the gates when he said later they "misread" the economy--now that the deficit is even greater his "misreading" of the economy will result in more future difficulty.

We've heard great rhetoric, oratory, and teleprompter reading skills but have a person that's never had executive experience and it's beginning to show.

2--His schizophrenic response to banks/wallstreet resulting in lack of confidence and planning--markets are in the process of rolling over again.

While there are always a host of undercurrents pulling markets in different directions, Obama's school yard like pshyco babble of "fighting the banks, we want our money back' was the epitome of his anti capitalist rants.It may be the defining point of the end of the bear market rally.

The guy is a serious whack job.

What American in his right mind doesn't want our money back? Geesh.

We could let 'em keep your share, Dave. Would that be acceptable to you?

Care to defend his remark dude?


No I didn't think so, all you know how to do is put others down and insult. TYPICAL dr left

Now back to topic at hand. Funny how you can say the 'hands on' president didn't have a 'hand on' in this case!

All good things he takes credit for, alll bad things he denies or blames on GW. If you remember how many times he cites "I" in a speech, there's proof of what a self absorbed individual he is.

It's just another example with how WRONG this admin policies are.

Further many here praised the original decision choice of venue, proof again of how you will say anything to support the messiah... even shit you know is wrong.

What American in his right mind doesn't want our money back? Geesh.

#28 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY


They paid it back, haven't you heard. All tarp banks have repaid the money or are prepared to do so.


To say otherwise is A LIE.


Now dude tell us why GM, GMAC and Chrysler are too big to fail????????????

The last three National Intelligence Estimates during Bush' presidency concluded his actions increased terrorist recruitment and the threat of terrorism. Guess you'd better look for more trials. Shame we didn't catch the mastermind, Osama Bin Laden, who was in the sights of U.S. intelligence in Tora Bora.

Cases from the Justice Dept are prosecuted by Asst. AG's and assigned a Federal Court District for trial by Justice Dept. officials, not the White House.

"Shoe Bomber" Richard Reed was tried in Boston, site where most of the 9/11 terrorists took off from ... during the Bush Administration.

Should a President micromanage the trial assignments at the Justice Dept. for the first time ... ever?

Zacarias Moussaoui, the '20th hijacker' was tried in the U.S. District Court of Virginia.

Was Bush just being a 'wacko' or did he let the Justice Dept. make their own determinations?

I thought NYC was the wrong place for this upcoming trial, but to pretend we haven't tried several terrorists in the U.S. and that Obama is suddenly the Devil whereas Bush, under whose administration far more terrorists have been tried on U.S. soil, is given a free hand is partisanship at it's best on your part, Dave.

So now they love us? Perhaps we should lay down all defenses and allow them to do whatever they please?


If you think the zero is so smart, why is he using more drone missile attacks the GW? And how do the people feel who receive these missiles?

What a turn and twist of things I did not say nor imply.

Tool

We're striking Taliban and Al Qaeda with precision, and only after ground verification is known.

The same mountains of Tora Bora where Bush wouldn't send Rangers the CIA and military requested to kill Bin Laden (when they had him in their sites) is suddenly an accessible combat zone once Obama is in power? Also, the Pakistanis have turned on the Taliban and working with us to clear out Waziristan after years of Musharref dicking around and unwilling to do much. I'd think you'd be glad.

Innocents get killed in every war. Ask the 100,000 who were killed in Iraq. We've taken steps in Afghanistan to eliminate civilian casualties from drone attacks. Visual ground verification is made before missiles are launched. Lesson learned.

Should a President micromanage the trial assignments at the Justice Dept. for the first time ... ever?


#34 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

When a major decision is being made to change how non-citizen "terrorists are to be tried, certainly, the president makes that decision--a responsible executive never leaves a major decision to those beneath him---the followup question by a "responsible" executive would be to have the logistics or bullet points on how this would be accomplished supplied to him along with the pros and cons of the decisions. If Obama abrogated this responsibility, it just shows again his lack of executive experience.

You were criticizing Obama wanting our money back from the banks. I suggested you leave yours in the Treasury if you think that's such a bad idea.

Drone attacks were another topic. We should have been out of Afghanistan 3 years ago, but your hero decided to fight a war we didn't need to fight and things devolved in Afghanistan with the Taliban regaining control of over 80% of the country.

Make up your mind. That's my suggestion.

#39 | Posted by matsop

So, I guess Bush himself decided Zacharias Moussoui and Richard Reed should have been tried in Boston and Virginia then. If he was micromanaging Ashcroft and Gonzales no wonder the economy went to shit an no one bothered to tell another soul outside Treasury our economy was going to collapse if we "DON'T TO SOMETHING THIS WEEKEND!".

If you remember how many times he cites "I" in a speech, there's proof of what a deluded FOX news watching moron you are and is reason enough to dismiss any further commentary.

FTFY.

why is he using more drone missile attacks the GW?

Cos he's smarter than Dumbya by a long shot.

Those drones are taking out the people who are organising and sending fighters into Afghanistan. Bush's policy was to swat at the wasps but ignore the nest. Bush was invested in perpetuating a "Forever War". Obama is invested in ending that war.

And how do the people feel who receive these missiles?

Mostly they feel dead.

You gotta problem with that?

Why are rtards trying to make Bloomers being a massive pussy here into Obama's Fault (TM)?

Be Well.

Its funny davethe hypcrit makes a post full of insults. Then when he is insulted he cries "typical dr left".

Moron is as moron does.

Both sides are guilty of insults. Typical left and typical right.

The ONLY bad reason for NYC is it costs a billion.

I am sure that is y obama is changing venues.

None of the other cry baby reasons are at play here.

Tie him to a subway track and let a train run over him. If he dies, he's innocent. Otherwise, hang him by his testicles.

There you go again spuds. telling us missile strikes by Obama are AOK but not those done by Gw. Also capturing terrorists is torture to you! Even if done by obama. I asked you about that, and you went to great lengths to avoid answering the obvious. You did so by saying capturing WAS torture.!!!!!!!!

Oh and kilfred quote me on the "insult filled" posts! Saying 'tool' or 'lie' or 'typical dr left' is an accurate description of AU. Anyone who casts out a mis-statement(What American in his right mind doesn't want our money back? ) as a challenge, and refuses to ignore the answer, is quite simply...a tool!

Changing his decisions is hurting President Obama's image more than any other criticism = embarrassing.


Changing his decisions is hurting President Obama's image more than any other criticism = embarrassing.

#47 | Posted by redlightrobot

It may only be beginning.

"Changing his decisions is hurting President Obama's image more than any other criticism = embarrassing.
#47 | Posted by redlightrobot"

It may only be beginning.
#48 | Posted by matsop at 2010-01-30 03:44 PM

So far he's followed through with the failouts, cash for clunkers and will undoubtedly pass the "no healthcare and insurance reform" legislation. He's sent tens of thousands more troops into an uncertain "war?" in Afghanistan, but the lies regarding our presence are going to backlash more obviously on Obama than BushCo whom are known criminal elements. He's easier to critique because he is allowing infiltrators to smear his image, whereas BushCo came pre-packaged.

His current guidance has brought in a third term of BushCo.

The Congress refuses reform at their risk.

I don't necessarily mind changing the location of the sham trials, but what's the worst thing that could happen if it stayed in NY? A copycat terrorist? Who is advising Holder?

Oh, that's right - they don't want to turn New York into another Portland or Paris. Their lack of faith in Americans is insulting.

The tea baggers are making the tea baggees like Obama suck some balls,.


The tea baggers are making the tea baggees like Obama suck some balls,.

#51 | Posted by fwthom

Only the beginning; only the beginning.

I can't wait for the selection of a "jury of his peers". Where are they going to get them? LMAO


I can't wait for the selection of a "jury of his peers". Where are they going to get them? LMAO


#53 | Posted by KBM

Imports

Is Eric Holder as stupid as Janet Incompetento

NY has always been a suck ass state and will always be a suck ass state, "The big Apple"
Hahahahahahaha The big apple no doubt, "The big suck ass state"... Hhahahahahahahah
Weak SSOB'S.....

Tea Partiers never made the Big Apple the weak piece of shit it is today, so suck on that for awhile shit suckers...

The Tea Partiers I've seen and heard couldn't afford to live in NYC

www.youtube.com

The Tea Partiers I've seen and heard couldn't afford to live in NYC


Kind of amusing being that I remember being stuck in traffic in lower Manhattan because of a tea party.

Hotels and motels ...

a responsible executive never leaves a major decision to those beneath him

MATSOP

Yes they do. It's called 'delegating authority".


Hotels and motels ...

#60 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY


Yea OK. I guess they learned those Brooklyn accents from the internet

So, you were (according to you) 'stuck in traffic' downtown, managed to hear people speaking out a closed window, and talked to enough to know they were all from Brooklyn too? Wow, you ARE superman!

Kind of amusing being that I remember being stuck in traffic in lower Manhattan because of a tea party.

Posted by timbci at 2010-01-30 09:27 PM


So, you were (according to you) 'stuck in traffic' downtown, managed to hear people speaking out a closed window, and talked to enough to know they were all from Brooklyn too? Wow, you ARE superman!

#63 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY


Yep every single one of them were from Brooklyn.


Go on and contimue denying the existence of the teaparty in NYC. Dems made the same mistake in Mass. It makes our job easier.

Commicallydense, here's a list:

1--A stimulus plan that was full of pork and didn't generate the jobs he envisioned and now will be added to our national debt--no leadership by not controlling reid/pelosi.

2--His schizophrenic response to banks/wallstreet resulting in lack of confidence and planning--markets are in the process of rolling over again.

3--His attempts to mollify the muslin world and by fiat the "terrorists" early on with sweet talk and the refusal to call a spade a spade---and then to move to civilian trials in NYC which he'll now have to change his position on since it is obvious it was poorly thought out (remember, this guy was suppossed to be deliberative---well, you can sit and ponder your navel until the cows come home but that doesn't mean you'll make the right decisions (which he hasn't in this case)---also, I'll predict that if these trials do occur in civilian courts, it'll reveal once more it was not the right decision.

4--healthcare disaster--once out of committees the lack of transparency and the backroom deals being cut subsequently deepsixing a potential good plan--allowing Pelosi/Reid to do their thing again without showing the leadership necessary to control the process.

5---His lack of emphasis of a cohesive plan out of the gates when he said later they "misread" the economy--now that the deficit is even greater his "misreading" of the economy will result in more future difficulty.

We've heard great rhetoric, oratory, and teleprompter reading skills but have a person that's never had executive experience and it's beginning to show.

#26 | Posted by matsop at 2010-01-30 08:17 AM | Reply | Flag:


WOW...These things you listed are what are DISASTROUS for this Nation?

Let's have a look;

1. It didn't generate all the jobs he envisioned, but it's public works projects can be seen on almost any major highway. BTW, remember this "The war will cost us 1.2 billion"

2. What's so schizophrenic about loaning the banks money to keep them from failing and then wanting it back when they start making money again? Face it, you simply don't want him to look good and no matter what he does, you'll bash it.

3. Civilian trials are now BAD under the 'Magic Negro' but all of the other 150 terrorist trials that took place in Federal courts were just fine with you? Fuck you. Also, HOW is a civilian trial a DISASTER for the Nation? Remember, these were your responses.

4. How has Healthcare been a disaster for the Nation when it hasn't even passed? You're losing your mind.

5. While I disagree regarding him having a plan 'out of the gates'...I know of another Hero of yours that didn't have a plan. Only cost us 5000 soldiers lives. But tat's ok....because he was cowboy.

p.s. I seem to remember this bailout started under the same clown that killed 5000 soldiers with his lack of a plan.

'a responsible executive never leaves a major decision to those beneath him

MATSOP

Yes they do. It's called 'delegating authority".'

yup

Matfop never had a job in the big time.

Management decisions are best pushed down to the level nearest the problem. An insecure, incompetent failure of an executive can't let others run their work. It's called micromanagement.

ZAT-
I can agree with you to a degree. I guess you'd have to define "major."

Sure, day to day decisions ought to be pushed to the nearest management level. But big-picture, strategic (ie: "major") decisions rest with senior management.

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