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The first-ever national Tea Party Convention, a pricy for-profit event held in Nashville from Feb. 6 to Feb. 8, is shaping up as a reminder of the problems inherent in holding together a fractious coalition of local groups resistant to authority and pursuing often-conflicting agendas. "I'm hoping for the best, but I'm prepared for the worst," said blogger Erick Erickson of RedState.

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"It's sponsored by a for-profit company with a mysterious wealthy benefactor"

Get used to it. Now that the Corporate Whores -er- I mean, Supreme Court overturned spending limits on corporations for cmapaigns (you know, try as I might, I don't see corporations anywhere in the Constitution), this is just an iceberg tip.

This is just the first wave. The teabaggers might have started as grass roots, but now that the loons have gained a foothold on the political landscape, they will be taken over by national interests that will exploit them while maintaining the status quo.

The billions of corporate cash that could potentially pour into the election cycle will only ensure they do the wishes of the rich and powerful.

The Teabag Party is going to fall prey to the same demons that ate the Liberatian party, the Independant party, the Constitution party, etc...they will place success over principle and abandon the very beliefs that formed them.

Perhaps they should trademarked themselves?

Teabagger TM

It is already beginning....

There is no real freedom in the term-limited' mind!

teapartypatriots.org

what might have happened had Ronald Reagan run for Congress instead of the governorship of California, and had term limits been in place as many now wish.

So now, once they get their own corrupt group in power they want them to stay indefinitely.

Again, the benefactors of the status quo are working their way into the teabagger movement to ensure their agenda is maintained.

More debt.

More corporate welfare.

More "free" trade.

More lost jobs.

America in bankruptcy.

I guess the Teachers and the Union Members who are part of this grass roots movement are behind this. Oh, that's right. You retards think only Republicans can join.

I guess the Teachers and the Union Members who are part of this grass roots movement are behind this. Oh, that's right. You retards think only Republicans can join.

Are you suggesting no teacher or Union member is a Republican?

"More debt.
More corporate welfare.
More "free" trade.
More lost jobs.
America in bankruptcy."
#6 | Posted by 726

Why do you hate Obama so?

Are you suggesting no teacher or Union member is a Republican?

#8 | Posted by kanrei

Not at all.

"Are you suggesting no teacher or Union member is a Republican?"
#8 | Posted by kanrei

Oh, there are. They have no say though. They are looked down on and bashed. All donations (union dues) go to Democrats regardless of members desires.

"All donations (union dues) go to Democrats regardless of members desires."

Gee, why shouldn't a union contribute to the campaign of someone who wants to abolish unions???
The Republican Party is strongly against the whole idea of organized labor, the Democratic party supports organized labor. So who should unions support???

All donations (union dues) go to Democrats regardless of members desires.


So your arguement is that 100% of all union donations go to Democrats?

God you loons really lap up those talking points.

blog.buzzflash.com

Not that the large Local 150 PAC has abandoned Democrats, but Dugan has led the Local in supporting a long list of Republicans many of them with anti-labor records according to Local 150 dissidents -- in the three-state area that Local 150 encompasses.

All donations (union dues) go to Democrats regardless of members desires.


It is worth remembering that is was Robert Kennedy back in the 1950s who
led the Congressional investigations into Teamster corruption,
investigations that led to the AFL-CIO expelling the Teamsters from the
labor federation. It was under Democrats in the 1960s that Jimmy Hoffa
Sr. (the father of the man Carey defeated last year for leadership of the
Teamsters) was indicted and imprisoned for fraud and looting the pensions
of his unions' retirees.

And then Richard Nixon pardoned Jimmy Hoffa in 1971 in exchange for the
Teamsters endorsing Nixon for President in 1972. Hoffa would not survive
the internal mob crossfire in the union, but the bond between the corrupt
Teamster leadership and the Republican Party would become only stronger.

In the late 70s, the corrupt Teamster leadership began a massive public
relations and political donation campaign to whitewash their image. Part
of this campaign involved hiring F. C. Duke Zeller, a Virginian Republican
operator who had been an unsuccessful Republican nominee for state
government and had turned to PR as a career. Hired by the Teamsters, he
detailed over a decade of the Teamster-Republican Party dealings in his
recent memoir, DEVIL'S PACT: INSIDE THE WORLD OF THE TEAMSTERS (1996).

Zeller recounts how the Teamsters ponied up millions of dollars to support
Ronald Reagan and his Republicans in 1980, but did even more yeoman work
for the Republicans in propaganda that union and working class voters
really wanted Reagan. The Teamsters conducted a mail ballot poll of their
members' preferences for President. When the results showed a strong
preference for Carter, Zeller was ordered to throw away ballots and rig
the poll and announce that Teamster members favored Ronald Reagan. As the
only major union supporting Reagan, the Teamsters were crucial for Reagan
in campaigning not just as a candidate of the wealthy but as someone who
related to blue-collar concerns.
But most importantly, the Reagan White House agreed to pull back
investigations into corruption among the Teamster leadership. Individual
leaders might get indicted, but a full-scale housecleaning was no longer
in the cards. Just as Nixon's deal with the Teamsters and Jimmy Hoffa's
pardon had lessened the pressure for the 1970s, the Republican-Teamster
deal of 1980 would let mob-connected officials loot the dues of union
members for most of the 1980s.

In 1984, the Teamsters dutifully rigged another poll of its members to
fake rank-and-file support for Reagan and poured millions more into
Republican races. The Teamsters endorsed Ronald Reagan and he basked in
the image of blue-collar "Reagan Democrats" supporting him and his
Republican party.

Reality and the right....

-Reality and the right....

Perfect strangers.

Awww you had to go and ruin a perfectly insane talking point, not that they will learn from it.

"Oh, there are. They have no say though. They are looked down on and bashed. All donations (union dues) go to Democrats regardless of members desires. "

Again, bullshit alert. I have never seen or heard of a Republican member bashed at any NEA event or in any NEA meeting. Even just in conversation. And every member has a say through representation protocols and through direct voice in locals. As another person pointed out, donations (not union dues; dues in the NEA may not be directly allocated to campaign financing) typically go to Dems because Dem candidates and incumbents typically are more supportive of education than are Republican candidates and incumbents. (N.B. the use of the word "typically.") As memory serves, in the write-ups I read comparing McCain's and Obama's education stances, Obama came out better. And in many cases, the McCain campaign "declined to respond." That said, Candidate Obama was never all that loved by the NEA. His position on merit pay alone got him in trouble.

I cannot speak to the inner workings of other unions. But I hope that every time one of you union-bashers makes a comment like the one quoted above, you go out of your way to do some research and be certain of your position. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Perhaps they should trademarked themselves?
Teabagger TM

#4 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESHEPERD AT 2010-01-22 11:39 AM | REPLY | FLAG:


With an name like yours I think you may already have

How long will this "teabagging" language entertain the simple-minded? Will it last longer than the "I inherited all these problems" excuse will resonate with them?

"Hee hee hee...I said teabagging. I so funny."

Keep laughing at your own teabagging jokes and try not to cry on election day. All you leftards are still scratching you asses wondering how the fuck did "Kennedy's Seat" get lost to a Republican. You have all rationalized every other possible reason but can't wrap you mind around the concept that Obama's radical socialist agenda of takeovers of private industry, rampant overspending has pissed most Americans off.
You all think it was Bush himself that everyone was pissed at in 08' but it was his lack of fiscal control and massive overreaching of government in our private lives. Now Obama is doing it but times 10

You all think it was Bush himself that everyone was pissed at in 08' but it was his lack of fiscal control and massive overreaching of government in our private lives. Now Obama is doing it but times 10

The Republicans stopped being Fiscal conservatives under Reagan.

Since then the Dems have proven themselves to be the far more fiscally responsible party despite all rtard propaganda to the contrary.

The idea that Obama is somehow worse than Bush is an unsubstantiated meme that the right have bought into lock, stock and both smoking barrels.

The idea that the right have learned their fiscal lesson and would do a better job after they regain power is absolutely insane.

Be Well.

FTA: Meanwhile, about 50 local tea party leaders from across Tennessee are planning to attend a sort of counter-convention caucus set for this Saturday in Nashville, while some activists are discussing staging protests outside next month's convention, which will be held at the Gaylord Opryland Hotel and Convention Center.

Lawls!

The disparate group that call themselves Tea Partiers have always been a hodge podge of many different groups who do not necessarily see eye to eye politically.

Genuine tax protesters standing alongside Anti-abortion groups, Birthers, NRA types, anti-illegal immigration folks with the odd smattering of neo-nazis and neo-confederates in the mix.

The fact that they are being astro-turfed by folks like FOX news, the Republican party and a "mysterious wealthy benefactor" should be anathema to their original aims and goals but apparently not so much.

The fact that they are now unravelling and breaking off into armed camps was actually pretty predictable.

Anybody buying Scary here telling folks she will not profit from her 100,000 dollar speakers fee?

Anyone?

Be Well.

#23 Dethspud

Oh, there goes Spud, again with his facts and big words and stuffs, thinking critically, pointing out the blatant hypocrisies of a schizophrenic movement.

The good old American way. Many of us who sign on to the Conservative agenda eschew the slick, let's build a war chest, name an executive director and begin bombarding everyone who ever attended a meeting, wrote a letter, voiced a conservative opinion, etc. and begin to ask for money. Business as usual!
I keep hoping that someone will emerge as a leader in this movement-not Palin or Limbaugh or Beck but someone that has real credibility to rally behind. Are there any statesmen left?

It's obvious that the Tea Partiers don't need a cohesive voice, or giant podiums that make their speakers look like they're speaking from Mount Olympus, as Obama did in Denver, to have their views resonate with the public.

All they need is Democrats in charge of the presidency, the Congress, and a majority of governorships as they manage--amazingly--to make a bad situation much, much worse. Ironically, small-government conservatism is more appealing now in the Bankrupt Blues, than elsewhere.

I appreciate the outcry from Tea-Partiers in light of the recent 5-4 Supreme Court decision to allow big international corporate conglomerates greater ease to buy out candidates.

#27

Because it's great to see splinter groups that criticize bad decisions currently being made by members of both parties rather than focusing entirely on one party.

All you leftards are still scratching you asses wondering how the fuck did "Kennedy's Seat" get lost to a Republican.

Nice to see the "conservatives" going home to the GOP. Not that they ever left the front yard.

And they tried to tell us they were "Libertarians" but never supported the Libertarian candidate.

This is just the first wave. The teabaggers might have started as grass roots, but now that the loons have gained a foothold on the political landscape, they will be taken over by national interests that will exploit them while maintaining the status quo.

The billions of corporate cash that could potentially pour into the election cycle will only ensure they do the wishes of the rich and powerful.

#2 | Posted by 726 at 2010-01-22 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Tea Baggers were NEVER grassroots. They were sponsored and heavily promoted by FOX News. They also charged $10,000 to any group that wanted to speak onstage.

"Tea Partiers Bag Own Convention"

Heh heh heh!! I LOVE IT!

How long will this "teabagging" language entertain the simple-minded? Will it last longer than the "I inherited all these problems" excuse will resonate with them?

"Hee hee hee...I said teabagging. I so funny."

#20 | Posted by Ryan47 at 2010-01-23 09:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

You retards named yourselves 'Tea Baggers', now live with it.

And they tried to tell us they were "Libertarians" but never supported the Libertarian candidate.

#29 | Posted by northguy3

Seriously, and why are people saying Scott Brown is connected to the tea Party thing? He's a Republican. I don't recall seeing anything to the contrary.

Keep laughing at your own teabagging jokes and try not to cry on election day. All you leftards are still scratching you asses wondering how the fuck did "Kennedy's Seat" get lost to a Republican.

#21 | Posted by bph320 at 2010-01-23 10:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry cupcake, but George Bush doesn't get to move back into the WH.

Dry those eyes.

How long will this "teabagging" language entertain the simple-minded?


Here on DR? Forever.

TEABAGGERS......Claims to be non-partisan but all of their main speakers are REPUBLICANS!!!!!

TEABAGGERS......Claims to be for the little guy yet the tickets for their Convention is $550.00 Each, WTF!!!!!

TEABAGGERS......Claims to want transparency by the Congress, Now that it is controlled by the DEMOCRATS, WHERE WAS THIS TRANPARENCY WHEN MR. BUSH AN THE REPUBLICANS WERE IN CHARGE????

TEABAGGERS......Wants all of Congress work on C-Span, but has refused the Main Stream media from excess to their Convention. But don't worry America Fox News will have excess, an they will tell you what you need to know....

TEABAGGERS......RIGHT WING HYPROCRITS, BORN OF FOX NEWS-REPUBLICANS ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!

You retards named yourselves 'Tea Baggers', now live with it.

Um...no. That would be the media, especially MSNBC. Try again, and maybe with facts this time?

Um...no. That would be the media, especially MSNBC. Try again, and maybe with facts this time?

#38 | Posted by Ryan47

Swallow this in spurts, ok ace.


The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was "Tea Bag the Fools in D.C." A protester was spotted with a sign saying, "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You." So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology.

nrd.nationalreview.com

That's fine. We'll take the tea bag moniker as it relates to get-the-government-out-of-our-
lives conservativism, and you can take it for let-me-put-bawney-franks-tiny-
dong-in-my-mouth liberalism.

Kinda like Blackberries. I use mine to make money, Obama uses his to try to take my money.


TEABAGGERS......Claims to be non-partisan but all of their main speakers are REPUBLICANS!!!!!

So what? Ron Paul was running as a Republican n the last election because he knows that Americans can only see in 2 colors. It's sad, but true.



TEABAGGERS......Claims to be for the little guy yet the tickets for their Convention is $550.00 Each, WTF!!!!!


$550 is cheap for a convention! I've been to other conventions (not political related) that charge $2500 or more. You must be a real little guy.



TEABAGGERS......Claims to want transparency by the Congress, Now that it is controlled by the DEMOCRATS, WHERE WAS THIS TRANPARENCY WHEN MR. BUSH AN THE REPUBLICANS WERE IN CHARGE????

Fucking typical ignorant response! They railed against Bush and the war, the Fed printing money, corporations running healthcare...

You are simply NOT paying attention.


TEABAGGERS......Wants all of Congress work on C-Span, but has refused the Main Stream media from excess to their Convention. But don't worry America Fox News will have excess, an they will tell you what you need to know....

This convention is not the Government dumbass. Besides, I seriously, seriously doubt that Obermann, Ed Shultz, Maddcoww, etc. will report the truth about it anyway.. So, those hacks will have to stay away



TEABAGGERS......RIGHT WING HYPROCRITS, BORN OF FOX NEWS-REPUBLICANS ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!


Again, typical ignorant response! Most of the attendees to this Conference started out as Ron Paul supporters...


The Neocon Republicans and Democrats are more afraid of the Tea Party than the real Republicans and Democrats.


Celisary, Seriously! Get a clue.

Most of the attendees to this Conference started out as Ron Paul supporters...

So they were idiots to begin with...


Most of the attendees to this Conference started out as Ron Paul supporters...


So they were idiots to begin with...

#42 | Posted by ZombieHunter

I have no response to this.

Who do support? Are you American?

Zombie,
Try to actually research Ron Paul before making a stupid comment... Eh?

The guy is insane. I can see why you like him.

Who do support?

Anyone who isn't a liar, crook, or crackpot. Since that's unrealistic expectation for politicians, I vote for the least of the available evils.

Are you American?

Yes, and I am grateful for it every day. That is the reason why I have nothing but contempt for individuals who want to repeat the failures and tragedies of other nations in the US. Theocracy, imperialism, sectarianism, racism, elitism, authoritarianism... you get the idea. There are a host of ugly fringe movements in the US that blindly embrace a litany of nasty "isms" because they haven't got the sense to avoid repeating others' mistakes.

But what does my nationality have to do with your support of a lunatic?


And to be sure KKK and white supremacist groups will be present.

Zombie all posts, rtard, Idiot searching for a padded room...

Zombie all posts, rtard, Idiot searching for a padded room...

Does this mean something to people who haven't fried their brain on meth and cheap hooch?

"let-me-put-bawney-franks-
tiny-
dong-in-my-mouth.

#40 | Posted by rightisright"


Uh, okay.

Yes, and I am grateful for it every day. That is the reason why I have nothing but contempt for individuals who want to repeat the failures and tragedies of other nations in the US. Theocracy, imperialism, sectarianism, racism, elitism, authoritarianism... you get the idea. There are a host of ugly fringe movements in the US that blindly embrace a litany of nasty "isms" because they haven't got the sense to avoid repeating others' mistakes.


But what does my nationality have to do with your support of a lunatic?

#46 | Posted by ZombieHunter


LOL...

I don't think you've ever revealed your ignorance as you have here!

You forgot Socialism and Communism!

AGAIN!!!! Do some research before making ignorant (stupid) comments.

The Ron Paul movement is a fringe group? LOL!!!!

Dude, Ron Paul attracts the best of America! The minds behind small business, the heart of American power!!!


Who do support?


Anyone who isn't a liar, crook, or crackpot. Since that's unrealistic expectation for politicians, I vote for the least of the available evils.

#46 | Posted by ZombieHunter


Like I thought. You can't name anyone, at the smae time, you described Ron Paul.

run away now.

And to be sure KKK and white supremacist groups will be present.

#47 | Posted by Massai


The Left desparately, DESPARATELY!, needs this to happen to quell this resurgence of American Conservatism. Yes, the same Conservatism that made America great for the last 200+ years.

What does Self Reliance mean to you?
What does Entrepreneurism mean?
What does setting a few rules in life mean? And then living by them?

Why do you want to kill this spirit?

You want to turn us into Socialist like Europe gave in to.

I went to an early Tea Party rally, drawn by the "nonpartisan" and "liberty" labels. While many of us in the audience fit those labels, many, if not most, of the speakers were neocon, christian fascists. For a while I tried to justify what I saw at the rally, desperate for a group to ally myself with, but I just couldn't do it.

Liberty means liberty FOR ALL, not just white republican protestants. I believe in self-reliance, but much of what I heard at the TP rally was self-reliance and entrepreneurism supported by strong Federal intervention in foreign trade. I also have the sense that many in the movement claim to want smaller government but strongly desire that government legislate morality.

"What does Self Reliance mean to you?"

A great deal.

"What does Entrepreneurism mean? "

As a definition, or societally? I have been an entrepreneur, and I applaud creative, independent spirit.

"What does setting a few rules in life mean? And then living by them?"

Are you implying that liberals don't set, accept, or follow rules? And that conservatives do? People are people, and all types have weakness. Put your broad brush away, pal.

"Why do you want to kill this spirit? "

I'll be generous and assume you mean the entrepreneurial spirit. Nope, I don't. I'm all for it. But I'm not for free rein for business, and I'm sure we disagree on what has made America great. (Hint: It's not conservatism. It's spirit. The founding fathers were not conservatives, folks. If so, they never would have thrown off the yoke. They might have been libertarians, I suppose, but that label is just as wide as the "liberal" one: so wide as to be almost meaningless. Kinda like conservative. My father, a lifelong conservative, were he to engage in a forum like this, would point out that he hasn't seen an actual conservative in office or in the Republican party for over 30 years.)

+++++

Oh, I'm sorry, were you speaking to specific people? It's hard to tell with that anti-liberal screed you so often fall back on.

EDDIE,EDDIE,EDDIE....WTF!!!! What is it about FACTS that send you FOX-REPUBLICANS in a tailspin?????? Everything I wrote was a FACT!!!!! Not SPIN ASSHOLE. SPIN that you clown get from FOX everyday!!!!

Everything I wrote was a FACT!!!!! Not SPIN ASSHOLE.

#56 | Posted by celisary


LOL.

Link please!

celisary,
It's fact because Ed Shultz or that Maddcow says so?

They are saying these things to get morons like you excited and thinking that you have a side.

Pick you battles, dude.

And, do some research before commenting. So far your an idiot.

if not most, of the speakers were neocon,
#54 | Posted by Unisphere

define neocon...

Hint: It's not conservatism. It's spirit. The founding fathers were not conservatives, folks.
#55 | Posted by pragmatist

No, they weren't. However, the conservatism that I am talking about is the spirit of keeping that alive. Do you have a problem with that?

What does Self Reliance mean to you?
What does Entrepreneurism mean?
What does setting a few rules in life mean? And then living by them?

Like Mark Sanford? That kind of conservatism? He sure set a few rules for himself there and lived by them.

No Democrat has even One word to say about their party's wealthy "mysterious" behind-the-scenes puppet master and benefactor Billions, George Soros, who now runs the Democrat Party.

Wonder what he really wants America to look like? Just look at what this administration and this Congress are ramming down America's throat.

"No, they weren't. However, the conservatism that I am talking about is the spirit of keeping that alive. Do you have a problem with that? "

What can I say? I'm a liberal, and I believe America still keeps that alive, and will even if there's a single-payer healthcare system in place. I don't see that being liberal, or even socialist(ic) in some regards, necessarily kills that spirit or is otherwise in opposition.

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