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As President Obama lands today in Japan, he's unlikely to accept an invitation that has been extended to American presidents for decades without being taken -- a visit to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. "Obama's position on these weapons is very close to ours," said survivor Sunao Tsuboi, now 84 and the leader of a bomb survivor group. "Surviving victims of the A-bomb don't have very long to live. I think Obama knows that. We have high hopes that he might stop by."

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Is he going to apologize to the Japs for the bomb?

It wouldn't surprise me it he did.

But of course, he was to busy to celebrate the Berlin Wall coming down.

If the Japs surrendered when they should have...

talk about a priceless photo-op. that would be right up there with Hanoi Jane...

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mikebeckham.net

Nuclear weapons are disgusting. It's a pity they will outlive their victims.

Typical knee-jerkery from the douchebag right.

I don't believe Obama should visit Hiroshima.

The questions arises however: How many years must pass before it becomes acceptable to view the bombing in non-political terms (vis-a-vis a legitimate response to Japanese aggression)? At what point can Hiroshima stand on it's own as a symbol of the horror of nuclear war such that all world leaders may openly acknowledge the horror experienced by that city? I would like to see the time come when Presidents of the U.S. may appropriately, and without political backlash, visit that memorial. All people, (Japanese, Americans etc.) should at some point be able to acknowledge the horror of the Bomb without there somehow being the implication that Japan was not an aggressor.

Member, et al:
and how many times did Bush travel to Berlin to celebrate the Berlin Wall coming down?

You are quick to mock a non-issue when your own chosen hero (Bush 43) spent much of his presidency on vacation.

Talk about "people in glass houses"...!

I think he should visit. Japan is our ally. We need to remind ourselves of our collective history, even our darkest moments so we do not forget.

You are quick to mock a non-issue when your own chosen hero (Bush 43) spent much of his presidency on vacation.

Talk about "people in glass houses"...!

#9 | Posted by SamBarber at 2009-11-13 11:33 AM

Yet the same Obamatards who mocked Bush's vacation taking have no problem with Obama hitting the links on a regular basis.

Talk about "people in glass houses"...!

Typically weak.

I flagged Slickster's post as offensive. There is no possible legitimate reason for referring to another poster in the manner he chose to. (What a shallow jerk.)

Yet the same Obamatards who mocked Bush's vacation taking have no problem with Obama hitting the links on a regular basis.

Talk about "people in glass houses"...!

#11 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

Funny thing-I don't recall Obama spending weeks at a time at some fake "Ranch" in Texass.....
So what if he hits the Links once in a while?

Librul's and Leftist's are disgusting.

Yes, at times they're the only thing coming between SlicksterWilly and his wet dreams of thermonuclear annihilation. If that sniveling cretin spends many more nights jacking off to pictures of burn victims from Hiroshima, he might just lose more skin than they did.

Apologize for saving hundreds of thousands of US lives? Remember, the US didn't start it and tried to avoid it. But we finished it.

#13 | Posted by slicksterWilly

You can TRY to blame us all you want-dickheadWilly-NO ONE has suggested we should apologize for anything.

Nice strawman-build him yourself? Or did you get him as a kit from the rtards?

I wonder how the Pacific war would have went if the untested Little Boy bomb had simply went thud into the soil of some park in Hiroshima.


I flagged Slickster's post as offensive. There is no possible legitimate reason for referring to another poster in the manner he chose to.
#14 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-11-13 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag


Oh heavans! Don't read #16 then!

all that catholic school education and I still can't spell heaven.

For two cities that were blasted by atomic weapons, they sure look beautiful today. Why hell, people even live there.

Funny thing-I don't recall Obama spending weeks at a time at some fake "Ranch" in Texass.....

I don't think it is a fake ranch....just occupied by a fake rancher.

I flagged Slickster's post as offensive.

Meh... it's more entertaining to let a fool's words hang in the air so that all can see him squirm. Like most of the far right, his bluster is a feeble attempt to compensate for a complete inability to say anything intelligent. The future holds only marginalization for the teary-eyed Glenn Becks and slickster willies of the world. Why not revel in their misery a bit?

You will all give me my due respect from now on. Not only am I a "cumtwat", but I am THE "cumtwat" on the left. Mr. cumtwat will do, thank you very much.

"Librul's and Leftist's are disgusting. It's a pity they will outlive their victims."

Glad you know we will win in the END!! I will do my best to comfort all the rightie women who have been without for soooooooo long, assuming their not a tranny like coulter or a pedophile like prejean.

LM

I think Funny flag should be the only choice out here, for once I will side with chair. You don't have to read what you don't want to, no one is forcing you......

LM

'Tsuboi was 20 years old and about a half-mile away from ground zero when the A-bomb exploded. Heat from the blast burned skin off his face, back and arms and melted away his ears. He has since had prostate cancer, colon cancer and chronic anemia requiring blood transfusions.'

Someone please tell me how come this should bother me?

My father would have been in on the invasion of japan. I do beleive the bomb did save countless lives on both sides.

It should bother you because you are a human being. If you are a mentally healthy caring person, the suffering of other humans (even if necessary under the circumstances) should bother you. Only self absorbed assholes don't care about the suffering of others.

Do Japanese PMs go on tours throughout Asia to visit all the places where WWII era Japan was guilty of every crime imaginable, including genocide?

Sniper, everyone is aware you're a heartless asshole. No need to constantly remind us.

Remember, the US didn't start it and tried to avoid it.
#13 | Posted by slicksterWilly

You need to do some reading. The US planned on the provocation of war.

We may not have visited, but we did send a very nice House Warming gift 6+ decades ago.


The 2 bombs dropped on Japan saved 10's of 1000's if not 100's of 1000's of human lives, both from Japan & from America.


Woudln't have happened if Japan & it's leaders would have accpeted the unconditional defeat that was staring at them from all sides. The only other option was to invade & that would have been worse, both in body count & long term effects.

#29 I hear Bataan is pretty scenic. Perhaps a little hike? Sully thank you for the reality check.

So many here reduce complex issues to cliches and stupid dirty words.

"You need to do some reading. The US planned on the provocation of war."

You probably need to use a little common sense in judging the validity of what you are reading.

Only self absorbed assholes don't care about the suffering of others.

#28 | POSTED BY MODER8 AT 2009-11-13 12:27 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

but only dipshits cannot understand that sometimes decisions like this save lives, and that it takes brave men and women to implement such a plan despite the obvious misery it will cause.

Funny thing-I don't recall Obama spending weeks at a time at some fake "Ranch" in Texass.....
So what if he hits the Links once in a while?

#15 | Posted by frankf55 at 2009-11-13 11:49 AM

Retarded flag.

President Obama has played more golf over the past nine months than President Bush did in over two years, according to a new report.

CBS' Mark Knoller -- described as by the Web site Politico.com as the "unofficial documentarian and statistician of all things White House-related" -- wrote on his Twitter on Sunday that Obama has hit the links more than Bush did in almost three years.

"Today -- Obama ties Pres. Bush in the number of rounds of golf played in office: 24. Took Bush 2 yrs & 10 months," Knoller wrote in his tweet.


Read more:
www.nypost.com

Don't get me wrong, I don't care if he's on the course as long as he has his Blackberry and ring of advisors around, i.e., still doing his job, but don't pretend you leftnuts weren't whining constantly about Bush vacationing.

the Japanese slaughtered as many as 30 million Filipinos, Malays, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Indonesians and Burmese, at least 23 million of them ethnic Chinese.

R. J. Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, states that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most likely 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war.

To determine the treatment of frostbite, prisoners were taken outside in freezing weather and left with exposed arms, periodically drenched with water until frozen solid. The arm was later amputated; the doctor would repeat the process on the victim's upper arm to the shoulder. After both arms were gone, the doctors moved on to the legs until only a head and torso remained. The victim was then used for plague and pathogens experiments.[24]

en.wikipedia.org

APOLOGIZE FOR NOTHING. You dumb libtards never learn. What happened after dropping some nukes on them? They given the world any trouble since?

The same day, veteran soldier Yasuji Kaneko admitted to The Washington Post that the women "cried out, but it didn't matter to us whether the women lived or died. We were the emperor's soldiers. Whether in military brothels or in the villages, we raped without reluctance."[57]

The exact death count has been impossible to determine, but some historians have placed the minimum death toll between six and eleven thousand men; whereas other postwar Allied reports have tabulated that only 54,000 of the 72,000 prisoners reached their destination taken together, the figures document a casual killing rate of one in four up to two in seven (25% to 28.6%) of those brutalized by the forcible march. The number of deaths that took place in the internment camps from delayed effects of the march is uncertain, but believed to be high.[2] One of the last remaining US commanders who survived the Bataan Death March, Dr. Lester Tenney, was interviewed at Hitotsubashi University in June 2008.[3][4]

R. J. Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, states that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most likely 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war.


"Inflated numbers. The Allies needed to inflate those numbers to make the Japanese look worse than they really were. They needed a deflection from Hiroshima and Nagasaki(sp)"

-GoodlittleNazi and Manypaths

Somoco, I realize your reading comprehension skills are limited, but re-read my post #8. Clearly dropping the bomb on Hiroshima was necessary. That is not the point. (If you still don't get it, let me spell it out for you. No matter how necessary the action may be, caring mentally healthy human beings feel concern and empathy at the suffering of others. A human condition obviously alien to you and Sniper. Let me guess, - you're a rightwinger.)

ElCid, I know you've gotten yourself all lathered up into a state of indignation. But chill. No one is suggesting the U.S. should apologize. No one is saying that Japan was not the aggressor. That is a rightwing created strawman. What is being suggested is that at some point the horror of nuclear war in general be allowed to be recognized by world leaders at the site of the first and worst use of such weaponry. Hopefully this is not all too subtle for you to grasp.

If it was so necessary then Pray Tell why DDE disagrees with You.

LM: Because it seems clear that dropping the bombs in fact did save the lives of tens of thousands of U.S. soldiers.

talk about a priceless photo-op. that would be right up there with Hanoi Jane...

You may not have heard this, but we're not at war with Japan, AuntieSocial. It is one of our strongest allies.

We justify the unjustifiable to quell our souls to me us feel better. We as a Nation HAVE to believe that or else we wouldn't be able to live with the guilt otherwise.

Larry

Make geez

"We justify the unjustifiable to quell our souls to me us feel better. We as a Nation HAVE to believe that or else we wouldn't be able to live with the guilt otherwise."

Most Americans today had nothing to do with WWII and those bombings don't reflect on us one way or another.

Only extremely pretentious asses feel the need to believe that their nationality is historically "morally superior" to others. If you are one of them that is your problem, don't project it on others.

I know I don't have a personal stake in whether the bombing of Hiroshima was right or wrong. I believe it was the right thing to do based on the options available at the time. Not only was it the right thing to do from a US military standpoint but it was also much more humane than invading Japan
or starving the Japanese into submission with a blockade.

LM: Because it seems clear that dropping the bombs in fact did save the lives of tens of thousands of U.S. soldiers.

.

"Because it seems clear that dropping the bombs in fact did save the lives of tens of thousands of U.S. soldiers."

I don't know why my last post was truncated. Here's the rest:


If you'll read "Flyboys" by James Bradley, you'll see that his years of meticulous research all over the Pacific and in the U.S. and Japanes records have the facts on the bombing campaign of Japan. It is a true story and includes names, dates, places, interviews of U.S. and Japanes participants etc. There is an excellent account of the firebombing of Tokyo alone in which more people were killed than the combined bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It is estimated that an invasion would have cost over a hundred thousand U.S. casualties and several million Japanese lives. The book contains the casualties of the multitude of cities that were firebombed and the schedule for the future firebombing of cities. The firebombing was to continue.
Excellent book, simply superb.

that time, DV8, is now.

we're not at war with Japan, AuntieSocial

Silly blog-god,

...We've always been at war with Eastasia!

Sorry, just always wanted to say that fer some reason.

Be Well.

If the Japs surrendered when they should have...

#2 | Posted by Lee_Atwater at 2009-11-13 10:55 AM | Reply | Flag

Those bombs were coming regardless......

Those bombs were coming regardless......

#53 | Posted by jfreshbloomer at 2009-11-13 01:49 PM


On Japan, or elsewhere?

"Obama Declines To Defend U.S. Bombing Of Hiroshima, Nagasaki"

"JAPANESE REPORTER: What is your understanding of the historical meaning of the A-bombing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Do you think it was the right decision?

Obama took a deep breath, paused . . . and punted.

The reporter tried again: "do you believe the US dropping of nuclear weapons on --"

Obama cut him off, choosing to answer an unrelated question on the situation in North Korea."

newsbusters.org

obama dodged the question this morning from a jappaneese reporter.

figures...he wouldnt want to say out loud what WRIGHT preached to him about for 20 years.

Speaking as a proud 22 year retired member of the USAF, one of the reasons Truman is among my favorite presidents is due to his use of Nuclear Weapons (I also like him for having the balls to fire MacArthur...)

My military job was "Disaster Preparedness" (now called Emergency Management). During the cold war, we were the ones who WROTE the fallout shelter guides.

I remember learning the practical side of nuclear survival. I was stunned to learn just how full of shit many of the anti-nuke folks were. (The anti-nuke folks were correct of the initial blast damage of a nuke, but UTTERLY full of crap on 'nuclear winter'. They ignored existing data from volcanos, and WORSE, they assumed all ground bursts. (If you don't know why 'assuming ground burst' makes a difference, you are missing some key info....).

BAIT FOR IDIOTS:
I also learned that the much mocked 'duck and cover' actually had some real value.

have you read much of the accounts from that time usa???

in trumans bio, they talk of the problems at that time. they werent even sure if it was going to work and there was talk of just blufffing thier way through it
what a monumentous decision that was
AND OH YEAH>....I dont believe harry S took months and months to make up his mind either.

... saving hundreds of thousands of US lives?
#13 | Posted by slicksterWilly

Myth.

"On Japan, or elsewhere?"

101 must be looking for a new puppet.


"... saving hundreds of thousands of US lives?
#13 | Posted by slicksterWilly


Myth."

Yeah, beacuse Japanese bullets couldn't kill anyone.

What a moron.

"obama dodged the question this morning from a jappaneese reporter."

At first I thought this was a little annoying but after thinking about it, I don't blame Obama. You can't have an honest discussion with the Japanese about this because they have never acknowledged the full extent of their heinous actions during the era or the suicidal fanaticism they had for supporting their emperor. If they want to dellude themselves there is nothing Obama can do about it.

I didnt really blame him either.
it was a no win answer for him.


AND

saving hundreds of thousands of US lives?
#13 | Posted by slicksterWilly


Myth.

#59 | Posted by mrbgoode at 2009-11-13 02


TELL US YOU ARE just joking..

101 must be looking for a new puppet.


#60 | Posted by Sully at 2009-11-13 02:31 PM | Reply


No, I was being serious. I think I may know where he was going with that.
I too believe that we had the bombs and were looking to take them for a spin to show people we're the fucking boss.
It just so happened those crazy bastards in Japan presented us with a prime opportunity to lay the smack down.


As for your latest post, I could have sworn the Japs recently admitted to committing mass atrocities. I may be wrong.
I had a buddy that worked and lived over there, and I used to ask him if he threw it in their faces (us bombing them). He said he wouldn't dare (and he's a ball buster) because they are so ashamed of themselves over there. He couldn't quite explain it, but long story short, they're mortified.

"As for your latest post, I could have sworn the Japs recently admitted to committing mass atrocities. I may be wrong.
I had a buddy that worked and lived over there, and I used to ask him if he threw it in their faces (us bombing them). He said he wouldn't dare (and he's a ball buster) because they are so ashamed of themselves over there. He couldn't quite explain it, but long story short, they're mortified."

One of their politicians did recently. But their entire adult population was raised in semi-denial. Obama should have said "If you have to ask the question then the answer would offend you."

I knew a kid in highshcool who was over there as an exchange student. On the anniversary of Hiroshima, his host told him he may want to lay low that day. When he asked why, the kid smiled at him and simulated a mini-explosion with his hands. But I think the kid was just screwing with him.

I've seen the films of Japanese school girls training with pikes to fight against U.S. Marines.

We dropped millions of warning notes on Japan, naming all the cities on the target lists, making very clear that some/all would be destroyed.

We dropped Little Boy on the HeadQuarters of the Japanese Army charged with repelling the planned U.S. invasion of mainland southern Japan. Then we placed a nuke mid way between two Japanese military munitions factories that were making weapons.

In the words of Mitsuo Fuchida, the man who led the Japanese air wing attacking Pearl Harbor, when speaking to Paul Tibbits, the Pilot of the Enola Gay:

"you did the right thing. You know the Japanese attitude of that time, how fanatic they were. They'd die for the Emperor. Every man, woman and child would have resisted the invasion with sticks and stones if necessary".

If the entire invasion force was as skilled and lucky as Rambo is in the movies, we would have lost 100,000 guys.

I've always heard it would be closer to a million.

I get annoyed when Americans today say WWII era Americans were wrong to do what they did not because I think the past reflects on me but because it indicates to me that we've become so stupid in the last 65 years that we may never be able to win a war again even if our own surival were at stake.

you did the right thing. You know the Japanese attitude of that time, how fanatic they were. They'd die for the Emperor. Every man, woman and child would have resisted the invasion with sticks and stones if necessary".

#66 | Posted by USAF242 at 2009


something very close to this was also said to truman.
cant remember who....he was completely certain that it would take this.
the firebombing in the philipines, WAS IT>.
didnt do it.

AND OH YEAH

didnt harry also have the example of EUROPE to go by.

the dresden bombing and berlin being attacked everyday and night was said to have the desired effect on the german will to fight..DIDNT IT??

so maybe he saw that and decided to pull the trigger

AGAIN>..he didnt wait for months and months until he thought it was politically expediant like SOMEONE WE ALL KNOW OF

#59 | Posted by mrbgoode at 2009-11-13 02:28 PM | Reply

Mrbgoode is a product of the post modern generation of hippies in the US. Mrbgoode is an uninformed FOOL.

Taking Okinowa painted a pretty clear picture of what it was going to cost us to successfully take mainland Japan.

Using the weapon was the only option that could limit the butchery and bring all hostilities to a end on our terms of Japan's unconditional surrender. It saved lives and it's disengenuous to argue otherwise.

Okinawa. I hate loose ends.

Someone please tell me how come this should bother me?


My father would have been in on the invasion of japan. I do beleive the bomb did save countless lives on both sides.

#27 | Posted by Sniper


It was a horrible war and using the bomb was one of many other outcomes--all equally as horrible.

If your father and mine went to Japan to take over, they would have probably had to kill many many more than the bomb(s) killed, but it would have been less remembered.

I am not going to say what should have happened at that time.

I lean toward not using the bomb on a city, but rather on a smaller island occupied by Japanese troops (which is a horrible thought by itself). Use it there or not at all.

Using it on a city was a horrible demonstartion and I would rather the US not be associated with this event. It's not in our nature.


I think Obama should visit.


why not vist the site of the bataan death march ?

He shouldn't go there. It'd be like Hitler stopping by Isreal to say "My bad. I didn't want to kill you, but you made me." (is that a step too far?) No matter what the optics of it are just not good.


He shouldn't go there. It'd be like Hitler stopping by Isreal to say "My bad. I didn't want to kill you, but you made me." (is that a step too far?) No matter what the optics of it are just not good.

#73 | Posted by BruceBanner


LOL!!!

It's like what?

You want to try and say that again?

Put your brain in gear this time.

'Using it on a city was a horrible demonstartion [sic] and I would rather the US not be associated with this event. It's not in our nature.


I think Obama should visit.'


#71 | Posted by Eddie


WELL SAID!

Nuclear Weapons are THE crime against humanity. The original act of terrorism!

We used the terror of that horror on civilian targets to force the Japanese to sumbit to surrender.

CALL IT FOR WHAT IT IS and stop all the sophisticated justifications.

"Obama Declines To Defend U.S. Bombing Of Hiroshima, Nagasaki"


Wow.....What a shock

I hope that he had ample time to deliver a Great Apology from his teleprompter though........
.

In his address of August 9, 1945 President Truman said that the first atom bomb was dropped on a military base. Apparently he was unaware that Hiroshima was a city.
"The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, insofar as possible, the killing of civilians."
Truman was apparently also unaware that the target selection committee on May 10-11 1945 (two months before the bomb was successfully tested on July 16, 1945) made Hiroshima it's number 2 choice in large part because it was a city, a city exactly the right size to be utterly destroyed by the bomb and a city which had not been significantly attacked and/or damaged previously due to its civilian character.
Also interesting the fact that on December 6, 1941 before the U.S. was at war with anyone FDR signed an order providing the astounding sum of 6 billion dollars to fund the building of the atom bomb, a project he never did disclose to the VP, Truman.

"We used the terror of that horror on civilian targets to force the Japanese to sumbit to surrender."

Yes because terrorists tell their targets what they are going to do first. They wear military uniforms and fly in planes that have military markings through hostile territory where the enemy can shoot them down. Then they help rebuild what they've destroyed and spend the next 65 years protecting the survivors.

Sheesh....

How is it the ground is safe mere decades after the explosion half life and all?

#79 Timex

What sorts of chemicals were in the A-Bomb, and what are those chemicals' half-lives?

Talking about radiation, of course

rationalrevolution.net


"You need to do some reading. The US planned on the provocation of war."


You probably need to use a little common sense in judging the validity of what you are reading.


#33 | Posted by Sully

You need to read.

For two cities that were blasted by atomic weapons, they sure look beautiful today. Why hell, people even live there.

Yep, yuk, yuk. 'Twas fun and we all had us a good time.

Remember the Lod Airport massacre caried out by the JRA (Japanese Red Army) back in 71? And the Banzai charges at the battle of (pick one) Attu, Saipan, Iwo Jima, Okinawa and various other Pacific engagements? A cranked up Jap acts like nothing can stop them but we know that's not true. Radiation stops them quite nicely.

In addition to radiation our esteemed President thinks bowing works quite nicely too!

And now Obama bows to the Japanese Emperor ....


Some community organizers never learn....where the frak is the presidential protocol advisor? Still clearing up tax problems?

Oops..

"Protocol Czar" ...

No President Has Ever Visited Hiroshima

But one President did honor SS soldiers. Three cheers for the amiable dunce!!!

No need to visit, as the repeated declinations say it all. If there was no shame involved, there would be no reason to continuously turn down the offer. The irrefutable fact is that the United States of America dropped two mother of all Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs), the atomic bomb, on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, thus vaporizing, burning, and radiating tens of thousands of human beings, the vast majority being civilian noncombatants to include thousands of women and children. And the hypocrites accused Saddam Hussein of what?

We used the terror of that horror on civilian targets to force the Japanese to sumbit to surrender.


CALL IT FOR WHAT IT IS and stop all the sophisticated justifications.

#75 | Posted by Monstman at


so what about the russians
at the time it was suspected they too were working on it and I Mean to say that we would have them regardless.
and yeah sure we used them....but again, the main argument is how many people were saved.
this seems to be another example of liberals rewriting history.
if there are any posters who were alive at that time. thier opinion may carry more weight than the rest of us
what do they say?

Beat the heck out of using bat bombs....

en.wikipedia.org

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked to set examples to the world going forward. At the time the Japanese Navy and Airforce were nothing. The US controlled the seas and the skies of Japan. Japan also ran out of oil (the reason why they attack pearl harbor in the first place), it had no more rubber or steel left. It was in effect dead in the water.

As for the invasion argument. why invade? Just tactical bomb every industry left and starve the country out.

the nukes were entirely unnecessary.

Republicans have no problem opening Japanese automobile factories in their backyards.

"To hear the rhetoric wafting down from Capitol Hill of late, you'd think that Toyota, Hyundai, BMW, and the rest are as all-American as Mom and apple pie. And in many ways, they now are. Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky made an impassioned plea on the Senate floor for his colleagues to oppose the $15 billion aid package the House of Representatives had approved for General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler. "Labor costs need to be brought on par with companies like Nissan, Toyota, and Hondanot tomorrow, but immediately," he said. By the weekend, McConnell and fellow anti-bailout Republicans like Richard Shelby of Alabama and Bob Corker of Tennessee had stopped the bailout bill in the Senate."

Very American. Let's drop the Anti-apology, Anti-Japanese ploy by the Right Wingers.

We love japan and forgive them for staring that little fight called WWII. Apologize to the 669,000 Marines the japanese killed. As long as the Japanese employ rednecks for $8 an hour, it's all right.

Morons...and Traitors!

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