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"The president waits, prods, allows the parties to reveal their hands, and keeps his final detailed position to himself," writes conservative Andrew Sullivan of Obama's decision making process. 'By allowing the debate to continue in public, he also tries to get the public more, rather than less, involved....But he won't be bounced and his concern seems to be genuinely to do the right and the most sustainable thing. Which is a kind of strength we haven't seen in a president since Reagan."

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The president waits, prods, allows the parties to reveal their hands, and keeps his final detailed position to himself

Geez, all that prodding and positioning must get you winded, Doc. LOL.

#1 | Posted by cookfish |Flag: Likes Nuts

Bwahahahahahahaha. Love the cover for indecision Doc.

Funny article!

He's got a better golf swing too.

Appreciating the complexity of issues...
fact gathering...
critical thinking...
not for children...
or wackdoodle wingnuts.

Don't know what I find more strange: the idea that Andrew Sullivan is a conservative, or the fact that Doc is holding up the article as proof that Reagan was a strong leader who appreciated "the complexity of the issues. Fact gathering, critical thinking . . . "

Don't know what I find more strange: the idea that Andrew Sullivan is a conservative, or the fact that Doc is holding up the article as proof that Reagan was a strong leader who appreciated "the complexity of the issues. Fact gathering, critical thinking . . . "

I'm not holding up the article "as proof that Reagan was strong leader." That's Andrew Sullivan's conclusion. I didn't write the article, and there's a difference between writing an essay, posting it, and endorsing it either in whole or in part.

Nor, by the way, did I offer an opinion that "Reagan was a strong leader who appreciated 'the complexity of the issues. Fact gathering, critical thinking . . .'"

When you take Sullivan's words and piggyback them onto my sentiments, that's what's known as conflation. In fact, I didn't even mention Reagan. What I said was, "Appreciating the complexity of issues...fact gathering...critical thinking...not for children...or wackdoodle wingnuts."

Ask Santa if he'll enroll you in a reading comprehension class.

Okay.

Of course, it's also possible that Obama doesn't know what to do. And what you confuse as fact gathering and critical thinking is, in reality, a deer-in-the-headlights refusal to deal with the facts on the ground. He's had years now to figure out what to do in Afghanistan. How hard is it to pull the trigger and get them out, or pick up the phone and send in more?

Mustn't rush him, though. Still in the "facts-gathering" stage.

#6 | Posted by rightisright

Newsworthy

Obama--the epitamy community organizer--have conferences to look busy.

And then decide to vote Present--Again!

Gotta love the way the wackdoodlers chafe at a real decision making process. "Ooooooh, it takes so looooong." Just kills 'em Obama won't go charging into the fray halfcocked, like the Texas halfpint from that converted pig farm near Waco. ROTFLMAO!

OH PLeASE

lets take a look at the score card

1) he lies about jobs
2) he lies about the economy
3) now we have had another terrorist attack and are less safe than in the past 8 years.

yeah boy...

he's really cooking now


AND LAST night on larry king

I happened to click on it

al gore said that obama was doing a "extraordinarily good job"

but THAT wasnt the funny line

when king asked him about the PeACE PRIZE.
gore said that it was "well deserved"

FOR WHAT???????

AND does anyone else feel like its complete chaos in the white house

THEY HAVE NO CLUE about jobs

cant decide about afghanistan

and see independent OBAMA MANIACS running like thier house was on fire.

Doc,

Given that Afghanistan isn't a new issue, given that he campaigned on Afghanistan... Is it so much of a stretch to think that he should have walked into the situation with a plan, nevermind been able to come up with one by now?

I understand backing your team and whatnot...But I'll get all over Francona's ass if I think he should have went to the middle reliever earlier.

It's okay to critique your guy

I think the line of reasoning that Obama is stalling is bull shit. How long has it been since the general over there requested the troops? Few months? These things don't happen overnight.

2 months left in the first quarter and you want all things things complete (jobs, Iraq, Afganistan, financial Crises. Not in progress but complete. Whatever he does, it will take AT LEAST a years worth of ramp up time before we start feeling any benefit.

Get a grip.

I think the line of reasoning that Obama is stalling is bull shit. How long has it been since the general over there requested the troops? Few months? These things don't happen overnight.

Well he (Gen. Mc.) framed the request as time sensitive, 4 months I think was the window. So he is still within that time frame but I think it was a "sooner is better" sort of thing.

Well he (Gen. Mc.) framed the request as time sensitive, 4 months I think was the window. So he is still within that time frame but I think it was a "sooner is better" sort of thing.

#17 | Posted by andyuhenet at 2009-11-14 01:29 AM


And yet, if the decision is made to send more troops, they won't set foot in Afghanistan until springtime at the earliest.


And yet, if the decision is made to send more troops, they won't set foot in Afghanistan until springtime at the earliest

Iraq surge:

January 10 2007 plan was announced.

2nd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division: Deployed to Baghdad, January 2007

4th Brigade, 1st Infantry Division: Deployed to Baghdad, February 2007

3rd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division: Deployed to southern Baghdad Belts, March 2007

4th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division: Deployed to Diyala province, April 2007

2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division: Deployed to the southeast of Baghdad, May 2007

en.wikipedia.org

If you have something that says otherwise I would think at least the beginning of a troop increase could be in Afghanistan by Christmas.

Obama's a politician. He has priorities. He has self preservation at stake as well. He has to balance any number of factors. He knows he cannot please all people.

Some observations. He really, really wants healthcare reform. He knows he needs strong support from his left wing, the folks who generally will be opposed to an uptick in troop involvement.

He would really prefer not to have our military engaged over there. But if he boldly takes the ball and goes home, he risks alienating the segment of the population who supports him but also recognizes the need to be vigilant in fighting terrorism.

So he's trying to run out the clock... offering roadblocks to making a decision in Afghanistan while he pushes for healthcare.

If the Dem party gets spanked in 2010 he'll not get the chance for substantive healthcare reform - at least to the magnitude being discussed at present.

So the ensuing few months are critical. Not making a decision is, in and of itself, making a decision.

At the end of the day, whether we choose to engage militarily in the Middle East should be a decision based on our national security interests... not on whether an Afghani government-of-the-month might be friendly/legit or not.

helps when you have media who pressures thier people to stay away from issues that might make obama look bad


www.newsmax.com

Gotta love the way the wackdoodlers chafe at a real decision making process. "Ooooooh, it takes so looooong." Just kills 'em Obama won't go charging into the fray halfcocked, like the Texas halfpint from that converted pig farm near Waco. ROTFLMAO!

#11 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

ya mean like holding a "job summit" in Jan 2010, AFTER the country has been bleeding jobs for 12 months

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