Personally, I decided a long time ago that the lower level employees of an evil enterprise such as United Health Care are just as guilty as are the CEOs. I would imagine that the companies screen out independent thinkers and have mostly head nodders working for them. If they told they to rescind the coverage for their own mother's cancer treatment most of these lackeys would not their heads and say yes master.
Sorry but IMHO health insurance employees are scum bags. Go get honest jobs.

"Thats like saying E3s are just as responsible for Iraq/Afghanistan as CiC."

Bull shit. Military personnel agree to defend this country and fight its wars. It's not their job to determine whether or not those wars are justified.
An insurance company employee though, knows good and well, that denying coverage, rescinding coverage, etc. is flat out immoral. There is no question, they are just willing to do it because the company pays them well.

"I don't think health care reform is anywhere close to being a done deal, and an argument can be made that the current bill will just give these 'corrupt' business millions of paying customers (or else be fined or jailed by the government!)"

Sadly, it's much worse than "an argument could be made." It's a fact that because of the blue dogs, Lieberman, etc. they have gutted the bill of anything resembling reform and it's just another give away to the insurance companies. The idea of government subsidies for poor people to buy private insurance is ridiculous, it would be cheaper and better to just put those people on Medicare.
The people of America do not control our Congress, the lobbyists do and it is disgusting.

"Well put."

A "well put" from Hopeychangey, oh, you must be proud.

"I can't wait until the lady down at the Department of Motor Vehicles is in charge of scheduling some of the brain surgeries in this country."

I've always found the DMV to be pretty efficient and none of their employees have a vested interest in denying me a license.
Not so with insurance company people, their decisions are closely scrutinized to be sure that profits are protected regardless if patients are or not.

"What we really need to do, very quickly, very badly, is to get rid of both parties. They are both derelict in their failure to promote the general welfare."

Yeah, cuz seniors are so dissatisfied with Medicare.
The only real example we have to use to compare and sorry it seems that it makes government run health care look like a good deal.
If only Johnson hadn't passed Medicare back in the sixties your talking points today might actually prove something, but he did, so they don't.