'Cop Killer' Gun Used in Fort Hood Shootings

Monday, November 09, 2009

The gun thought to be used in the Fort Hood massacre packs so much firepower it's known as "the Cop Killer," federal law enforcement officials said. Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly packed a FN Herstal Five-seveN tactical pistol, which according to federal law enforcement officials, was legally purchased from the "Guns Galore" shop in Killeen, Texas in Aug. 2009.

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Yep; ABC finds another totally unfounded and unsupportable angle to push their agenda...

Who is the THEY who labels this a cop killer gun? The only advantage is the mag capacity, of a smaller caliber no less.

It's pretty much considered a POS...

#1 | Posted by Mountain_Mano at 2009-11-09 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

never now when you'll need a trusty five-seven. reduced recoil, light ammo, and about twenty shots before reload.

#2 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2009-11-09 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Who is the THEY who labels this a cop killer gun?
It's pretty much considered a POS...

#1 | Posted by Mountain_Mano at 2009-11-09 01:06 PM | Reply

The Brady Campaign?

The ballistics of the ammuntion for this handgun are weak to say the least....
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#3 | Posted by 2008ATL at 2009-11-09 01:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

So a small-caliber, low velocity handgun is supposed to be called a cop-killer? If you shoot someone with a .22 enough, I guess it'll be a cop-killer, too. Nice, piece, though, probably a lot of fun to shoot. Doubt it'll punch through much body armor, though. Not sure how they justify setting out a 200 meter accuracy, with a short-barreled handgun.

#4 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-11-09 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Muslim radicals don't kill people. Guns do.

Down with all guns.

Sincerely yet derangedly,

-The Left

#5 | Posted by The_Chapel at 2009-11-09 01:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Don't be so harsh on him he only squeezed off more than a 100 rounds - must not jump to conclusions!"

the left

#6 | Posted by nanc at 2009-11-09 01:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

...guess he wasn't so good with a knife? Must be an uppity muslim.

#7 | Posted by nanc at 2009-11-09 01:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bullshit.

The gun isn't the killer. Heck, even the bullet isn't the killer. The person with the gun is the killer.

The gun CAN fire rounds that can penetrate SOME body armor, but those rounds are NOT available to the general public.

Just another B.S., unfounded, anti-gun story. No surprise.

IF you really want to be "armor piercing" then use a rifle. Something like a .50 CAL will do just fine.

{ Facepalm }

#8 | Posted by daprof at 2009-11-09 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sounds like a cop killer to me. In fact, it sounds like an all purpose people exterminator made just for mass murderers. Not much good for anything else I can think of.

#9 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-11-09 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Here are some facts on the ammo for the FN 57

www.the-armory.com

#10 | Posted by daprof at 2009-11-09 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Question for you ex-military people:

Would it have been possible for him to get a gun through the military? As a civilian, I have the impression that guns are all over the place in the Army. Why did the guy go to the hassle of buying a gun when he could have just picked one up from an armory on the base somewhere?

#11 | Posted by TylerDurden at 2009-11-09 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

the problem is not enought guns on base, if the soldiers had been armed, this fuck would have been shot after his first victim, cops are good at cleaning up the mess, but they NEVER protect you.

#12 | Posted by reinsurelaw at 2009-11-09 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Per Mountain Mano: Who is the THEY who labels this a cop killer gun?

Answer: Read the article. "The gun thought to be used in the Fort Hood massacre packs so much firepower it's known as "the Cop Killer," federal law enforcement officials said."

So it is Federal law enformcement which considers the weapon to be "cop killer". Lefties and liberals have nothing to do with the designation. Rather, it rightwing law and order types who designate it as such. (Now I realize facts and truth never stood in the way of the rants of gun lovers. But it sure would make you guys seem less stupid if you actually read the article before posting.)

#13 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-11-09 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

So it is Federal law enformcement which considers the weapon to be "cop killer".

Oh Really?

Exactly which Federal Law Enforcement Agency has designated the weapon to be (Gasp) a "Cop Killer"?
.

#14 | Posted by 2008ATL at 2009-11-09 01:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Actually,
That's just a quote from someone. Doesn't make it true. Do a little reading on the gun and the round....link provided above...

#15 | Posted by daprof at 2009-11-09 01:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

The gun thought to be used in the Fort Hood massacre packs so much firepower it's known as "the Cop Killer,"

WTF is a cop killer pistol? That is just anti gun hype to call his gun that!! Now that they wear bullet proof vests, it would be easier to kill a cop with a knife than a pistol. Just exactly went on there? They claim he fired more than 100 rounds. How do you do that with two pistols? There ain't no way that they held over 50 rounds each!! WTF over.

#16 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-09 01:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

If the mean liberals allowed guns on base all these people wouldn't have been killed

Sincerely

The Obliviously Ignorant NRA water Toters

#17 | Posted by Redneckville at 2009-11-09 01:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

You can't just "pick one up" from the arms room, not so simple. But being in the military gets you all kinds of favoritism from the local dealers and the BIGGEST gun nuts are, no surprise, in the military.

But, so what? That this asshole was non-civillian doesn't make a bit of difference. Not to the victims, their familes or even the statisticians.

#18 | Posted by bellaspapa at 2009-11-09 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

"That is just anti gun hype to call his gun that"

I know, lets demand the government outlaw such free speech.

Sincerely

You and Your Contemporaries of Stupidity

#19 | Posted by Redneckville at 2009-11-09 01:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Call them what you like, the combination of Hasan and his handgun(s) was incredibly efficient. Harris and Klebold killed only 12 and they had all kinds of fire power. And seemingly lots more time.

Can anyone tell me how this guy managed to kill so many so quickly?

#20 | Posted by Mossadegh at 2009-11-09 02:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

gun control = those who have the power have all the guns.

#21 | Posted by Shawn at 2009-11-09 02:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

As if the death toll would have been less with a Beretta M/9 9mm.

"Can anyone tell me how this guy managed to kill so many so quickly?"

You walk into a "gun free zone" building with lots of unarmed people and open fire. The first armed good guy doesn't confront you for four minutes. Sit and look at a clock for four minutes. It's a loong time.

Not sure what's difficult to believe here.

#22 | Posted by HopeyChangey at 2009-11-09 02:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

The "They" could be anything or anybody, or nobody for that matter. There are 100's of Federal Law Enforcement agencies, hell, Park Rangers are Fed LEOs. My point is that nobody is ID'd, not even by agency, of making this claim. You'll never hear rank and file LEO's even use this term, it's so friggin generic. How bout that Cop Killer ballbat?

Sniper is right, if you're intionially going to go on a "cop killing" rampage you won't use a pistol, a knife would work better. A whacko/terrorist (verdict still out) went on a spree, used a POS disposable handgun (the gun didn't use him) and inflicted terrible bodily harm to a chosen soft target.

"the BIGGEST gun nuts are, no surprise, in the military."
And the BIGGEST tool nuts are carpenters and the biggest car nuts are mechanics and... We're talking the tools of the trade here, ya know?

#23 | Posted by Mountain_Mano at 2009-11-09 02:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

cops are good at cleaning up the mess, but they NEVER protect you.

#12 | Posted by reinsurelaw

They usualy get their in time to chalk the bodies. I am surprised that they responded quick enough to shoot the SOB. They should have let him bleed out.

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-09 02:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Per MountainMano: "Sniper is right, if you're intionially going to go on a "cop killing" rampage you won't use a pistol, a knife would work better."

But if you really want to inflict damage, a car antenna is the way to go.

#25 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-11-09 02:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

My bad, thought about it but I'm new enough here I didn't want to jump on some of ya'lls bandwagons; but car antenna's are WAY BAD!

#26 | Posted by Mountain_Mano at 2009-11-09 02:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Harris and Klebold killed only 12 and they had all kinds of fire power. And seemingly lots more time.

I think they only went after the ones who gave them wedgies and laughed at them for being pathetic emo pieces of shit. Hassan was probably a bit less discriminating.

#27 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-11-09 02:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

The type of weapon is immaterial. All guns can kill, for the most part, that is their job. They are a tool, albeit a potentially deadly tool. Even in the hands of an untrained trained shooter many people can be killed. Focusing on some generic "cop-killer" label completely deflects the issue - a deranged Islamo-terrorist successfully, as a commissioned military officer, walked onto the largest military base in the free world and killed 13 loyal and patriotic Americans with no more effort than it takes to head to the neighborhood shooting range. And the "intelligence services" of the United States had warning of this person months in advance.

#28 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-11-09 02:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

An armed society is a polite society. Or so the gunnees tell me. Fort Hood must have been a regular equitette club.

#29 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-11-09 04:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

While it may seem strange, a military installation is not an armed society. It's not as if the soldiers are carrying around their automatic rifles at all times. While military and ex-military people may have a great acquaintance with firearms than the regular public, the carrying of handguns is an exception in the military, not the rule. Very few of the totality of soldiers are issued handguns. But, yes, had the general soldier been as armed as many ignorantly believe, this fool would have drowned in his own blood, with only a few victims lying beside him.

#30 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-11-09 04:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

An armed society is a polite society. Or so the gunnees tell me. Fort Hood must have been a regular equitette club.

#30 | Posted by northguy3

I guess you don't know that nobody carries a gun on an army post except the MPs. It is a no-gun zone.

#31 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-09 04:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

well, except for crazy psychiatrists.

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2009-11-09 04:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Too bad Hasan didn't try this on a base in Iraq. His potential victims would have been armed and ready to return fire. I doubt he would have made it all the way through shouting "Allah Akbar" before he would have been silenced forever. And after four rounds from a military-issued weapon there would be no talk about his surviving his wounds and the nuisance of a trial.

Isn't it a shame that it's sometimes safer to be on a military base outside the USA rather than being left disarmed and helpless in the liberal paradise of the USA?

And thankfully, none of these psychos have exactly been killing machines. He reportedly fired over 100 rounds and had "only" 13 kills, literally shooting his victims like fish in a barrel. The Liberal press should be GRATEFUL that he used an inaccurate small-caliber weapon instead of ranting about "cop killer" b.s.

#33 | Posted by Dinsey at 2009-11-09 05:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Isn't it a shame that it's sometimes safer to be on a military base outside the USA rather than being left disarmed and helpless in the liberal paradise of the USA?"

What are, about fifteen years old?

#34 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-09 05:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Most of the gun toting right wing lunatics would have shit their pants if they were confronted in this situation without their penis extensions....I mean guns.

20 or 30 round magazines are no excuse for the amount of US Army casualties. The problem here is this:

1. Faggoty ass, mamsy-pamsy, new generation soldiers with no balls.
2. The mindset that one needs a weapon to confront someone else with a weapon, only bigger (NRA right wing pussies).

This article is desperately trying to justify the "awesome firepower/magazine capacity" of a weapon held by a fat, out of shape medical student. These casualties, and the others in this facility were cowering in fear...Pathetic.....

It makes me ashamed to say I was ever in the Army....

#35 | Posted by ArmyVet at 2009-11-09 05:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'll second your comment about being ashamed of ever being in the Army. I, too, am ashamed you were ever in the Army. Obviously you have no clue about who may be toting firearms, or their degree of courage or cowardliness. In your usual fit of brainless bravado and sluggish thinking you take a anti-gun article and turn it into an anti-military and anti-conservative rant. In reality, it is liberal slime like you that has caused the ability of people like this to preform. By weeping and apologizing for America, wimps like you have encouraged terrorists, telling them that Americans are all pussies like you, and welcome them to come and bang us up the ass. You are to blame, not some gun toting conservative embracing the Constitutional Right that people far better than you gave him.

#36 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-11-09 05:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, and I suppose you're just a bad ass who would have walked right up to the guy and disarmed him. You're an idiot. It is quite evident that anyone who would have approached this guy would have been gunned down quickly. he had a pretty damn good kill rate going which leads me to believe he was a good shot and knew what he was doing. But you would have saved everybody. You're pathetic.

#37 | Posted by everlong at 2009-11-09 05:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'll second your comment about being ashamed of ever being in the Army. I, too, am ashamed you were ever in the Army."

Your a civilian armchair internet puss who never served but talk as if you have, obviously. Leave discussion about the military to those who served.Put this Major on a pedestal and preach about how great this Arab bastard was and that NO ONE could stop him. Typical right wing coward.

"Obviously you have no clue about who may be toting firearms, or their degree of courage or cowardliness."

All soldiers should be courageous, apparently they are not.

"In your usual fit of brainless bravado and sluggish thinking you take a anti-gun article and turn it into an anti-military and anti-conservative rant.

The right wingers hijack any article containing the word-"Gun" and turn it into an attack on any one other THAN a conservative.

Pointing out the obvious to the oblivious. Civilian cowardly girlie men like yourself would naturally lay down and cower since you've been neutered by the right wing-fear mongers.

You, and your right wing fools who shake and shutter at the mention of Al-Queda, have turned our nation into the pansy-ass society we live in.

#38 | Posted by ArmyVet at 2009-11-09 06:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

I own a 5.7 and have a few words for those out there that think its a "Cop Killer". Although only as accurate as trained as the shooter. The 5.7 offers little more. The 20 round mag can be found in most 9mm high capacity, you can also find them with 40 and heavy hitting 45s. although the mags might be a little longer they still will contain the same firepower.

Here is a little tip on 5.7 ammo.

The Five-Seven and 5.7x28mm ammunition were the target of brief controversy in the United States in 2004[16] when it was claimed by the Brady Campaign that commercially available SS192 penetrated a Level IIA vest in testing.[19] However, armor piercing variants of the 5.7x28mm are only offered to law enforcement and military customers.[6] Commercially available variants of the 5.7x28mm cartridge are classified by the ATF as being not armor piercing[17] and it was claimed that the SS192 and SS196 cartridge variants did not penetrate Kevlar vests in tests conducted by FNH USA.[17]

Now the the "Cop Killer" has been exposed as a scare tactic and politically motivated

#39 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2009-11-09 06:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Everlong wants to suck this Majors dick as well...

"He was a good shot and knew what he was doing". Go to the hospital for his autograph...ass.

#40 | Posted by ArmyVet at 2009-11-09 06:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Now the the "Cop Killer" has been exposed as a scare tactic and politically motivated

#40 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2009-11-09 06:22 PM

This whole 'Cop Killer' BS has Brady Campaign written all over it...
.

#41 | Posted by 2008ATL at 2009-11-09 06:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

You, and your right wing fools who shake and shutter at the mention of Al-Queda, have turned our nation into the pansy-ass society we live in.

What a punk. I suppose we could remove all the right-wing conservative soldiers and police officers in the country, and let left-wing liberal apologizers like you and Obama protect us? Do you really want people to believe that it's the left-wing thinkers in the military that do all the fighting and protecting? From your posts it does seem that you really are that obtuse, but I find it hard to believe that someone that stupid can even find their keyboard.

It's the "right wing fools" that are keeping your ass alive, nitwit. If only libs like you would die at the hands of Al-Queda then it would be easy; unfortunately, though, everyone reaps the rewards of a strong US military, even those that really don't deserve it. Sounds like once upon a time you were a patriot and a benefit to your country, now you're little more than a pathetic excuse for a tax deduction.

#42 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-11-09 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Spokane,
Don't be fooled into believing that ALL who join are flag wavers. I'd say 1/2 are there for education benefits, many for kicks, probably a good proportion are "liberals".

1/4 are trying to escape family, neighborhoods or a bad situation. The other 1/4 are the flag wavers.

Not ALL flag wavers are brainwashed Republicans. You've been hypnotized in believing that pack of lies.

Oh, I forgot...All those who laid down there lives in combat over the past 75 years were Republicans...(Fox News Special Report).

#43 | Posted by ArmyVet at 2009-11-09 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Was the shooter firing those AP rounds only available to the military?

I looked into buying a Five-seveN but decided it was too expensive, and the ammo too rare. It's essentially a handgun built around the ammo invented for the P90.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2009-11-09 07:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Glad to see that at least the cop was armed...if the soldiers were there might only be 1 dead - the shooter...too bad they weren't

#45 | Posted by foshaffer at 2009-11-09 07:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'd say 1/2 are there for education benefits

At least. The majority of military men and women that I know are there for education benefits.

#46 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-11-09 07:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

I looked into buying a Five-seveN but decided it was too expensive, and the ammo too rare. It's essentially a handgun built around the ammo invented for the P90.

The P90 is a submachine gun, correct?

I read this in the article: "Cheadle said the agents were interested in a FN pistol that uses 5.7 caliber ammunition."

That has to be a misprint. Is it .57 calibre? That would be a fucking huge slug, but does the P90 use it? I thought the majority of handguns and submachine guns used small-calibre ammunition.

#47 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-11-09 07:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

5.7 would be in mm, not caliber (inches). As a reference, the standard US military rifle is 5.56mm, which is .223 caliber, not much more than a center-fire .22 with a bit more pop due to the longer casing and more powder. 5.7mm would be a bit wider round, but with a shorter casing to fit pistol or sub magazines. The 9mm is the most common of this type of ammunition, used in both pistols and various subs, such as the various HK models.

#48 | Posted by SpokaneJim at 2009-11-09 07:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

The killings were a terrorist act, cut and dry.
obama and jamit neopolitan has sent the message that it is OK to kill Americans.

#49 | Posted by rightnut at 2009-11-09 07:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

#50: Nominee for stupidest post of the week award. (And what a surprise, it was written by a perennial contender for stupidest poster of the year award, Rightnut.)

#50 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-11-09 07:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Cop Killer bullet????? That would not even make a good hunting cartridge.

This is all spin and a sham!!! The Media is spinning the story again.

.357 magnum, .45 acp, are much more powerful and more knock down power. Ummm Police use these calibers for a reason! Pure knockdown power and a huge chunk of flesh comes out the other side due to expansion and diameter alone.

I hope Major Nidal faces a firing squad!

#51 | Posted by Unclesam at 2009-11-09 07:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

I hope Major Nidal faces a firing squad!

I hope the firing squad is drunk when they do it.

#52 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-11-09 08:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

#50: Nominee for stupidest post of the week award.

He's up against some pretty stiff competition, though.

#53 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-11-09 08:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'd say 1/2 are there for education benefits
At least. The majority of military men and women that I know are there for education benefits.

Ditto.

Cop Killer bullet????? That would not even make a good hunting cartridge.

Well, it isn't designed to hunt anything other than humans in close quarters.

The military 5.7 rounds pierce body armor. No idea if that's what the shooter was using but I doubt it since it looks like his weapon was purchased through civilian channels.

Strange there's no mention of the S&W .357 Magnum he used. Perhaps the forensics will be able to tell us which is the more lethal weapon.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2009-11-09 08:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hasan allegedly packed a FN Herstal Five-seveN tactical pistol, which according to federal law enforcement officials, was legally purchased from the "Guns Galore" shop in Killeen, Texas in Aug. 2009.

. . . the conclusion seems obvious - - NO Muslims can own guns!

#55 | Posted by markh at 2009-11-09 08:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

MarkH: the problem is, it is impossible to know who the "secret Muslims" are. The real solution, to make sure no secret Muslims get any guns, nobody in America but LE can own guns!

#56 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-11-10 12:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

it is impossible to know who the "secret Muslims" are. The real solution, to make sure no secret Muslims get any guns, nobody in America but LE can own guns!

#57 | Posted by moder8

yikes mod . . . your intellect is truly tragic . . .

following your logic with an eye on the Muslim extremists current methods - - -

only law enforcement could own cars (car-bombs)

only law enforcement could own shoes (shoe bombs)

only law enforcement could fly in planes (WTC)

it is indeed understandable that YOU need more government in your life and I DO hope that you get it . . . perhaps at some point you could even get a weekend pass (supervised, of course)

#57 | Posted by markh at 2009-11-10 03:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

Was the shooter firing those AP rounds only available to the military?

#45 | Posted by snoofy

There ain't no AP rounds for a pistol!!!!! If you want to put something through a bullet proof vest, use a knife or an arrow.

#58 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-10 10:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

The military 5.7 rounds pierce body armor.

#55 | Posted by snoofy

Only soft armor. It is a "mouse gun" and will do nothing to the vests with plates.

#59 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-10 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

The killings were a terrorist act, cut and dry.
obama and jamit neopolitan has sent the message that it is OK to kill Americans.

#50 | Posted by rightnut

We agree on that. ja-no is a bleeding heart lib dike and AZ was glad to get rid of it.

#60 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-11-10 10:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

obama and jamit neopolitan has sent the message that it is OK to kill Americans.

#50 | Posted by rightnut

Wow, yer dumb.

Don't get Spud wrong, this is not new information here. Yer posts have always been dripping with FAIL and unintended irony but it's just when Spud reckons that he's plumbed the abolute depths of yer stupidity you come out with another thought so mind numbingly retarded that Spud has to recalibrate the bottom end of the dumb scale just fer you.

On Topic?

CopKiller is an oddish term.

Spud remembers when Ice T (before he joined the boys in blue on teevee) was criticized by none other than Charlton Heston fer coming out with an album called "Cop Killer".

Irony fans like Spud noted at the time that the guy who was standing up at that time fer the right fer gun owners to buy "cop killer" bullets (ie. Kevlar coated jobbies designed to cut thru body armour like wot cops wear) was complaining about the title of a recording of some music.

Now a gun has assumed that same title.

Spud finds the choice of gun the killer selected to be the least interesting part of this case.

Be Well.

#61 | Posted by dethspud at 2009-11-10 11:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

Articles like these only further embolden the dumbfucks like Moder8 that know nothing about guns.

The idea of a "cop killer" gun is fucking ridiculous.
I could kill a cop with a fucking BB Gun, so I guess that's a "cop killer" gun as well?

Every gun the cops carry must be a "bad guy killer" gun.

#62 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-11-10 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

" Kevlar coated jobbies designed to cut thru body armour like wot cops wear"

Never existed.
The black talons, were coated in lubelox to help barrel longevity. Other then that they were standard hollow points.

#63 | Posted by salamandagator at 2009-11-10 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

No, black talons are cop killer bullets! Just like the gun is a cop killer gun! Just like a weapon painted black with silver barrel, flash suppresor, and hardware is an Assault Weapon!

#64 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-11-10 12:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've heard of "cop killer" bullets for a long time now but never heard of a "cop killer" gun.

#65 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-11-10 12:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

All the editorial boards at all of the MSM outfits are sitting around thinking of news angles to draw attention away from the fact that:

A. Limp-dick was a terrorist.
B. Limp-dick committed an act of terrorism.
C. Fundamental Islam was the reason (as validated by the support expressed worldwide by Muslim "clerics").

#66 | Posted by BENDOR at 2009-11-11 09:06 AM | Reply | Flag: