Mao's wife is drop dead GORGEOUS!!

You wouldn't stand a chance in taking her away from him.

But, it never hurts to dream!

LOL Doc...not even close!!

"You don't know the levels to which I can stoop to or the heights that I can reach."

Sadly, I think I do.

Most people with decency would take your attitude as a character flaw.

Instead, you brag.

When you brag and use the word "stoop", it shows you will go to the absolute lowest levels to accomplish your goal having no conscience, no sense of decency, only selfish aspirations.

Seriously Tosser, you make me so thankful to be nothing like you.

I'm done with this discussion. You can have the last word.

You know Klifferd, I used to enjoy reading your posts. You used to be fair minded and respectful.

Lately, it seems you want to align yourself with the likes of Tosser.

What a shame.

Klifferd:

You respond to those bile comments made to you...with bile, Klifferd. How do you expect to get any other response?? I tried commenting to you about sinking down to their level, to instead take the high road.

You don't help your cause when you lower yourself to their level. Some of the things they have said are truly disgusting, degrading...mudd people being one of them. It shows their lack of intelligence. So why do you answer back with the same lack of intelligence? You are so much better than that Kliff.

I don't "condemn" you Klifferd, I'm trying to gently point out that you have more to offer as I have seen in our conversations off of this site.

I defend the aggressor?? Really? Seems to me my archives will say something different. I always stand up against the religious extremests, even of those in my own religion.

"Lisa, nor I have EVER called you "mud" people - although being a not-so-nice christian, I would be the one more prone to do so. Lisa is not a fundy by fundy standards - from what I've seen, she goes beyond the pale to appease all sides. I'm not so broadminded."

No, I've never seen you call anyone "mudd people".

I guess I fail to understand why you are proud of not being a "not-so-nice Christian". Aren't we suppose to live our lives Christ like?

I'm not picking on you Nanc, but this is one thing I just don't understand about you and I'm trying to.

If we are suppose to witness Jesus, how can we do that if we are "not-so-nice Christians"?? I think a better term would be "lukewarm Christian" to be honest about it, Nanc. I used to be one. Trust me, I can fling the insulting crap at others like everyone else can . I've done it long before you ever came to Drudge, Nanc....and I'm ashamed of it. And yes I know we are sinners. But that doesn't mean I HAVE to sin. I have a choice. We all do. And being mean spirited, I definately have a choice in!

I would rather see conversations done respectfully, with peace, yes...but please don't mistake that with bending my beliefs to make others happy.

"Doc - that's because Lisa is more willing to bend to the left's will and I am not."

And why do you feel I do that Nanc?

Because I don't walk lockstep with Republicans?

I don't "bend" my beliefs Nanc.

I try to be patient.

After all, the Bible's first words to define love is...

LOVE IS PATIENT....

"she's been respectful to me and i will continue to be respectful to her."

You're my friend, Klifferd....no matter what the Koran says...lol! : )

How do you feel I give up ground, Nanc?

"By NOT taking strong enough stands on biblical issues - it's almost as though thee and me have read a different bible! You desire to be well-liked and quite frankly that is not a goal of mine when it comes to THE WORD."

I take very strong stances on Scripture Nanc.

I just don't feel I need to be insulting or degrading to someone when I do. I don't DESIRE to be well liked...it just happens. Perhaps because I don't do what you do. I can get my point across without being a "not-so-nice-Christian".

You do not help your cause Nanc....or, perhaps you don't have a cause where Jesus is concerned.

Not sure.

Here's my thoughts Nanc....I would rather lead people who are interested to Christ by example. If that means that I am polite, patient and long suffering, that's what it means.

Have you had people email you to ask about your beliefs because of the example you set?

So, you don't think I take stands on Scripture? How's this:

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud." 1 Cor 13:4

How do you fulfill this Scripture? How do you take a stance to that? It isn't shown on this site, that's for sure.

How about:

"I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching." 2 Tim 4:1-2

Are you patient with people here? What do YOU teach? You brag and boast about being a "not-so-nice-Christian"! Is that what Jesus would want you to teach??

We don't read from two different Bibles Nanc, you just pick and choose what you want to practice from it.

There....how's that for a stance?

I will conclude with this Nanc....

Better to look guilty in the eyes of man, than in the eyes of God.

You seem to want to fit in with the trolls here who just want to hurl insults.

I'd hardly say that is of THE WORD.

Thanks for your input.

"Then you should try to remember WHO they hated before they hated me. If the truth is insulting, so be it."

Keep reading, my sister! Then show me where Jesus taught that we are to insult people while witnessing for Him.

When I knock I don't want Jesus to say "depart, I do not know you" because of the fruit I produced, because I didn't follow his instructions.

I want Him to grab me by the arm, pull me in and say "You..I know! You have followed my lead."

Your pride gets in the way of witnessing, causing the luke warmness. I recognize it because I was the same way at one time.

What does Scripture say about pride?? Remember?

I refuse to be a luke warm Christian Nanc.

If you are comfortable with it, so be it.

"You are as lukewarm as they come, Lisa - you take no definite biblical stands. You want to be popular and appeal to all sides. You cannot serve two masters."

You can claim whatever you like Nanc. I fail to see you on threads that defend or explain Christianity. I'm there. Where are you? Why don't you respond to the Scripture that I have brought forth to you?

I realize why. You have lost credibility because you simply do not walk the Christian talk.

God knows the truth, sweetie.

You are threatened by the fruit I bear which in complete contrast to yours...and you SHOULD know if you read your Bible...that good fruit come from good trees and bad fruit comes from bad trees. You know that you should be witnessing for Jesus...and you're not.

This has nothing to do with being well liked. This has everything to do with you not doing what we have been instructed to do.

You want to keep turning the tables and put me on the hot seat Nanc...it's crystal clear. You have not responded to one thing I have said in reference to Bible quotes that prove you do not act as you should. And you should feel threatened...not by me, but of judgement by God.

I am taking a stand Nanc...and have for quite some time.

I'm taking a stand against people who claim they are Christian and act nothing like it.

It's people like you who give true Christians a bad name, creating hardships for those who sincerely witness for Christ, who have to work earnestly to correct the bad thoughts about Christians because you have caused so much damage by your words, your actions.

I want people to understand that not all Christians behave as you do. Manypath gets it, thankfully...I pray others do as well.

IF put to a vote Nanc, as to who dipicts the correct followings of Jesus...you or me...you would lose. And I say that not out of pride because everything I have, everything I am I give all glory and honor to God for, it is by His Grace. I do or have nothing from my own efforts. I say that to show you that your pride is going to destroy you.

You state your way is correct??? Not by Jesus's standards!!! It clearly is written what He expects from us.

It's bad enough to have to fight other forces, but when one needs to correct a so called Christian...that's a tragedy!

I took my stand Nanc...in favor of Scripture. Bring forth Scripture to show you are correct....if you can.

LOL Klifferd..I know that! Just teasin' with you.

I love your guts!!!!

"Lisa - do you have the intestinal fortitude to tell people who have not accepted Yeshua as Savior they are lost without Him? It is the great commission - go ahead, tell Klifferd he is lost without Jesus."

Klifferd and I have spoken in length outside of Drudge. Klifferd and I agree to disagree and our friendship remains intact.

So to answer your question, even as you deflect from my questions to you...YES I DO. Many times over in the past, and continue to do so in the future.

Let me ask another question that I'm sure will be ignored:

Do you?

LOL

False accusations based on nothing. I guess I should have wondered why this topic would cause you not to lie as you do in every other one, Nanc.

I am not of this world, Nanc. No matter how many times you want to say it, it doesn't make it true.

In fact, it would be you who is of this world. Pride, lying, boastfulness, hatred...all things you show that are of this world.

Where's the answers to all the questions I asked you Nanc? There were many of them!

Afraid to take a stance, Nanc...or is it just that your behavior is unjustifiable based on Scripture so you can not respond to them?

"We have the knowledge, Lisa - some of us refuse to use it."

What knowledge are YOU using?

You can't respond to one single question I have asked of you? You have not responded to one Scripture I have put up here.

Good grief.

Those Scriptures you are putting up do not explain how you are "correct" (as YOU call it) for behaving the way you do.

Still waiting.

Show me Scripture where we are instructed to insult people.

Show me Scripture that states we are to just accept that we sin without trying not to.

Show me Scripture where we are told that it's Christianlike to be dishonest.

Show me Scripture that says we shouldn't be patient and kind.

Show me Scripture that explains the difference between good and bad fruit, and where it says the "correct way" is to produce that bad fruit.

Show me Scripture where Jesus would be pleased to see you behave as a "not-so-nice-Christian" Nanc.

Waiting.

"
Let's see, Lisa - on a couple of occasions you stated you don't allow your children to wear Christian tees for fear they would insult someone and then on another thread bragged about how you and your husband wear crosses. Which is it, Lisa - are you proud to be a Christian or ashamed? I have answered your questions sufficiently. Get off the fence, Lisa."

My son would be sent home Nanc. It's not quite my rule now is it??

We are still to obey the laws and rules on earth Nanc. Or is that something else you picked and chose to fit your lifestyle?

You have answered NOTHING Nanc!! Anyone with eyes can see that!!

All you have done sufficiently is to put me on the hotseat to deflect from your failures.

"I love the Lord more than the approval of others - can you say the same? No, you cannot - you bend to the whims of others as I've stated elsewhere. You care too much what others think of you"

It is clear you do not know the Word Nanc. And it's perfectly clear that you are a liar.

I do not bend my beliefs for others.

You ignore true Christianity and the commands we are given out of your foolish pride.

Pride goeth before the fall, Nanc.

In addition Nanc...you're claim that I don't take a stand....where are you when the discussions are going on where I am either defending or explaining Christianity?

Seems to me, I am taking the stand while you hide. Why is that?

Perhaps you are more uninformed than you care to admit.

No shame in that.

Just LEARN!!

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud." 1 Cor 13:4

How do you fulfill this Scripture? How do you take a stance to that? It isn't shown on this site, that's for sure.

How about:

"I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching." 2 Tim 4:1-2

Explain to me where Scripture says it's ok to be insulting Nanc?

We are instructed to love one another...love being patient, kind....you choose to be insulting. As you state...you believe your way is the right way.

Show me Scripture to back that up. I've just showed you Scripture to show you are incorrect.

"Point out the lies I've told, Lisa. Or are you just following the leftist marching orders? Call someone a liar and not back it up - I backed up my summation of you - most other people here can see it, honey, baby, sweetie, LOL!"

I sit on the fence. I don't take a stand on my beliefs.

I'm not going to go through and copy and paste everything in my archive to prove you wrong. Take a look for yourself.

Most people here can see it?? Really??

Then explain to me why people rip you to shreds on your behavior while claiming to be a Christian but I have been treated with respect. It gets so bad that even though you deserve what you get, I feel bad for you!!!

Good grief Nanc...on this thread alone, Klifferd and Corky have tried to set you straight.

Waiting for responses to post #145 Nanc.

Looking up Scripture Nanc or trying to figure out how to get out of answering these questions without you having to swollow that pride of yours?

No matter.

Don't answer. You can't possibly find Scripture in defense of your behavior.

Try and have a good day anyway.

But Nanc...know that by refusal to answer the questions, to back up your claims using Scripture to back up your statements that your way of acting is the "correct way" and mine are wrong, only solidifies your earlier statement...

"unless proven in err and then I do apologize or correct my mistakes."....

to be a lie as well.

LOL

You're a self proclaimed "not-so-nice Christian" Nanc...who stated your beliefs were the "correct" ones.

I'd say that providing Scripture to back up your "correct" way of living has EVERYTHING to do with it!!!

"Is this about my fruit? Because I don't like to be a braggart about what we do in the charitable department. Good fruit comes from speaking the TRUTH of Jesus and walking in His ways. Wide is the way to destruction."

So...being a "not-so-nice-Christian" is walking in his ways Nanc?????

Giving to charities, doing charitable work does NOT excuse you from the things you say or do otherwise.

You're on the path to destruction...by your very own definition.

"
Watching 2 dames squabble and whine about which one is the most holier-than-thou Christian is a surefire way to improve Christianity's reputation and win over heathens."

I was taking the stand Nanc wanted to see. I wasn't squabbling a bit.

"Way to go girls Jesus must be so proud of you right now!!!"

Jesus is very proud that I defended what He stood for.

Only a heathen wouldn't recognize that.

BTW...how many times will it take for you to respect my wishes and ignore my posts??

Just curious as to how long you will be stalking me.

Thanks in advance.

Ummm...you did.

You commented on something that pertained to me.

First post of the day...and it's about me.

I've asked you to stop.

Apparently that doesn't mean anything to you.

#159

You are sad.

I'd worry about yourself regarding Exodus 20:16 if I were you.

You are sad for suggesting it.

Seems you knew the link pretty fast!

Now please....isn't there something else that would be better entertainment for you than this?

My conscience is quite clear.

Thank you for your concern, but truly...it's not warranted.

Now...find something else to do!