Obama: Senate Will Pass Health Bill

Sunday, November 08, 2009

"Tonight, in an historic vote, the House of Representatives passed a bill that would finally make real the promise of quality, affordable healthcare for the American people. The United States Senate must follow suit and pass its version of the legislation. I am absolutely confident it will." -- President Obama

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If they know whats good for them.

#1 | Posted by Lee_Atwater at 2009-11-08 10:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

A total, complete, utter travesty.

#2 | Posted by dockj at 2009-11-08 10:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

The House bill is DOA. The Senate will do nothing and the Dem congressmen in red districts who voted for the House bill will be unemployed after the 2010 election. Bet on it.

#3 | Posted by Redman at 2009-11-08 10:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Senate Leader has already acknowleged they don't have the votes, and has put this off till next year. What's changed? Not only that, but the Senate bill, IF it ever passes, still has to be reconciled with the House version. It will be different, and will be sure to alienate many of the Coalition of the Confused that Pelosi managed to bribe and browbeat into voting for this piece of crap. This dog won't hunt.

#4 | Posted by cookfish at 2009-11-08 10:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

If Harry Reid could at least take a Viagra before a vote that would give it a fighting chance.

the rupukes continually deny, obfuscate and denigrate any progress on healthcare, the environment, clean energy and too many too numerous to list.May you be relegated to the dustbin of history.

#5 | Posted by Legio at 2009-11-08 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Senate can't pass this bill with a public option, the mandates to go to jail, the trillion dollar cost, and the Stupak amendment.

It won't get the 60 votes to go to the full vote.

You have 40 repubs and Joe Lieberman, Landreu, Blanche, and a whole host of other Dems who will not vote for this.

It's called a filibuster.

#6 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-11-08 11:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Pray to God the senate is smarter than the house!!

#7 | Posted by seedeez2 at 2009-11-08 12:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm just glad that it's just a few hours flight to Costa Rica to get good health care.

#8 | Posted by MSgt at 2009-11-08 12:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Like I've been saying for months-- a Healthcare bill will be passed next year but won't be anything like the house bill. Then Obama can sign it, take credit for it (without doing squat except reading the teleprompter) state it a success and life will go on. The insurance companies will continue to exist and pay off the congress and president and the game will go on.

#9 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-08 01:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

I will now work to oust Brian Baird-D Wa, for backing the bill that goes against a lot of principals. They want to shove something down a lot of people who have worked hard much of their lives to be where they are. This present administration wants to set me back. Please tell me what "my" incentive is if you're going to take away my benefits from hard work, staying in school, earning a college degree and being one of those fortunate to have some.

What do I tell my children? Hard work means nothing? Or very little? 2010 and 2012 better turn back to a conservative be responsible government or we're in bigger trouble than I ever though.

Not the change I was looking for and the supporters better figure out that income redistribution will end up screwing us all with leaving us wothout a carrot.

Pelosi can gloat and support total frauds at the same time. I look foward to an early retirement for her.

I have never been so disappointed in my countries elected officials.

#10 | Posted by NonDLR at 2009-11-08 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Quality AFFORDABLE Healthcare.
Does anyone see AFFORDABLE or QUALITY in this Death-Care plan??? Really???

Very Limited, and Very, Very expensive is what I see...

#11 | Posted by Dr_Feelgood at 2009-11-08 05:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Mutiny in Scrutiny? [Jeffrey H. Anderson]

It was always clear that the real health-care battle would be in the Senate. But what would have been shocking eight months ago is to hear that it would take until November for the Democrats to pass a bill even in the House. It would have been even more shocking to have heard that, even after a full-court-press by the White House, the bill would pass by only five votes meaning that if just three of the 435 members had changed their minds, it would have changed the bill's fate. And it would have been shocking to have heard that 39 Democrats would jump ship.

The House bill has passed barely and belatedly and it is now dead. Nothing like it will ever pass the Senate. The question now is whether anything will, now that the voters have spoken in New Jersey and Virginia and now that the exceedingly narrow margin in the House will likely invite even greater scrutiny of that which is being proposed.

Greater scrutiny will not help the Democrats' efforts. In truth, their hopes for passage largely hinge on successfully hiding two plain facts from the voters: One, the House Republicans and the Congressional Budget Office have now shown that a bill costing $61 billion can lower Americans' insurance premiums, while bills costing $1.7 trillion cannot (and instead would raise them substantially). Two, the Democrats' plans would be paid for only if they follow through on plans to siphon hundreds of billions of dollars out of already-barely-solvent Medicare, and to do so just in time for the baby boomers' retirement.

Given the magnitude of the challenge of continuing to hide these plain facts from an increasingly attentive citizenry, the Democratic health-care train has a very bumpy ride ahead as it rolls into the chamber that the American Founders thought from the beginning would ultimately decide our fate: the Senate.

healthcare.nationalreview.com

#12 | Posted by The_Chapel at 2009-11-08 05:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

"The House bill has passed barely and belatedly and it is now dead."

As are the Blue Dogs and the Rep in the House.

#13 | Posted by The_Chapel at 2009-11-08 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't understand the "DOA" talking point at all.

The house bill passed; why would it be DOA?

And the dynamics for the Senate have now changed. I.E. more pressure on them now that the house got a bill through. So hold your bets and wait until they get back to work on it next year.

#14 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-11-08 08:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

#15---live or die, are you being facetious in your posting or serious? Just wondering.

#15 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-08 08:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

#15---live or die, are you being facetious in your posting or serious? Just wondering.

#16 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-08 08:38 PM

Serious. Feel free to explain what in my post lead you to think it might be facetious.

#16 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-11-08 08:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

#17-----Well, first you seem to be of the opinion that you feel the bill by the house has a good chance of passing and then you said "wait until they get back to work on it next year".--- most of folks opposing the bill would think that it won't happen if it takes until next year to pass. I would opine that the longer it takes the less likelihood it'll look like the house vote since the closer it gets to the 2010 elections the more nervous representatives will be to pass anything like this bill especially with "a public option". Just a thought.

#17 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-08 09:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

And the dynamics for the Senate have now changed.

Please state how they've changed, and which Senators are going to change their vote because of this. If you can't, you're just talking nonsense.

#18 | Posted by cookfish at 2009-11-08 09:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

#17-----Well, first you seem to be of the opinion that you feel the bill by the house has a good chance of passing and then you said "wait until they get back to work on it next year".--- most of folks opposing the bill would think that it won't happen if it takes until next year to pass. I would opine that the longer it takes the less likelihood it'll look like the house vote since the closer it gets to the 2010 elections the more nervous representatives will be to pass anything like this bill especially with "a public option". Just a thought.

#18 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-08 09:06 PM

All I'm saying is that before the House version passed, the Senate Dems may have been dragging their feet. Now they're going to have more pressure put on them to pass something.

#19 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-11-08 09:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

and which Senators are going to change their vote because of this.

#19 | Posted by cookfish at 2009-11-08 09:10 PM

I'm not saying they will or they won't. Just that the Dem hold outs have more pressure on them now since they can make or break the effort.

#20 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-11-08 09:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

#20---Thanks .

#21 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-08 10:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

it won't pass. they'll be a revolution if it does

#22 | Posted by pragmatous at 2009-11-08 11:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

The first thing the Senate will change is the "consumer option" which will be renamed "Vaseline Option".

The senate bill will look nothing like the house bill since there aren't as many whores in the senate.

#23 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2009-11-08 11:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Lots of stuff passes the house just to fail in the senate. Happens all the time.

#24 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2009-11-08 11:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Is he planning a hit on LIEberman?

#25 | Posted by tiger150 at 2009-11-09 08:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

Lots of stuff passes the house just to fail in the senate.

Remember that House bill that they passed imposing the ex post facto 100% tax on executive bonuses? When is that going to come up in the Senate?

#26 | Posted by Redman at 2009-11-09 10:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's called a filibuster.

Which the righties have always thought was evil. Ya gotta love the Senator for Israel-gladly sunk $ trillions or borrowed money and thousands of US lives protecting Israel, but sudenly worried about passing debts on to his grandchildren.
I guess the hundred years he and McLost wanted so fight in Iraq would have been self-funding.

Time for the nuclear option...

#27 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-11-09 11:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Time for the nuclear option...

#28 | Posted by northguy3

Don't worry. It will occur on election day 2010.

#28 | Posted by Redman at 2009-11-09 12:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

McCaskill: Senate Could Live With Stupak Amendment

Sen. Claire McCaskill, a pro-choice Democrat from Missouri, said on Monday that she didn't think a provision greatly restricting the ability of woman to access or pay for abortions would be enough to kill a Senate health care bill

Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe", McCaskill was asked whether an amendment added by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) to the House's legislation would be too bitter a pill to pass the Senate.

"I am not sure that it is," replied the Missouri Democrat. "Obviously, I have been a pro-choice candidate for my entire political career, and obviously there is controversy always surrounding this issue. But we are talking about whether or not people that get public money can buy an insurance policy that has a coverage for abortion. And that is not the majority of America. The majority of America is not going to be getting subsidies from the government...."

"And so, I am not sure that this is going to be enough to kill the bill," McCaskill added. "And frankly, once again, this is another example of having to govern with moderates. We can't just turn our back on the fact that the reason we are in majority, is because states like Indiana, and Arkansas, and Louisiana, and Missouri, and North Carolina, and Virginia sent Democrats to the Senate

www.huffingtonpost.com

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-09 12:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

well he's a cheap suit thug, guess he should know. first they lose VA and NJ next reid will lose his seat. this clowns more interested in his legacy via health reform jammed down our throats than he is listening to the people. for the dems, 2012 is coming in 2010. just another example of the laughing stock that is obama.

#30 | Posted by outbacker at 2009-11-09 12:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.billionairesforwealthcare.
com

for the dems, 2012 is coming in 2010. NY23rd said it all. Dems 1, Teabaggers 0. NY and VA- moderates 2, teabaggers 0.

And yet, Obama's poll #s are up, even on Rasmussen. Could it be the NOPpers haven't been listening to the normal people, just the tea baggers? Didn't work in 2008, won't work in 2010.

#31 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-11-09 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

^.^

Reid is already saying that he doesn't have the votes in the Senate. He has *exactly* 60 votes if all of the Dems and Joe Lieberman votes with him, and there's already a few who have said the public option that is in the House bill is a non-starter.

And once you get into 2010, it's an election year, and nothing substantive is going to get done in an election year ... especially not something that could blow up on them, like a healthcare bill.

And once the 2010 elections are done, Obummer won't have the majorities he has now, and healthcare will be done until at least 2011.

JEB

#32 | Posted by lunahq7 at 2009-11-09 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

As long as this bill includes the mandate that forces us to buy health insurance (especially Pelosi's mandate, which actually says that people should go to JAIL as a consequence) I don't care whether this bill is good or not, I hope it crashes and burns. Pelosi, and anyone else who supports mandatory health insurance, is evil.

#33 | Posted by Hecante at 2009-11-13 12:22 AM | Reply | Flag: