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During Ed Schultz's show Friday night on MSNBC, former Republican Congressman Tom Tancredo got up and left the show in the middle of a segment after Daily Kos publisher Markos Moulitsas referred to Tancredo's Vietnam draft deferment. "Tom, I'm a veteran. Okay?" Moulitas said in a discussion about government health care for veterans. "I did not get a deferment because I was too depressed to fight a war I supported in Vietnam."

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another american coward who runs his mouth but does nothing for anyone but himself

Tancredo's problem was that he was being forced to face the truth. Ever the clueless jingoistic blowhard, he presumed to speak for American veterans -- proclaiming a position for which he had, at best, anecdotal support -- and Moulitas nailed him by simply raising a point Tancredo's already conceded:

As a Republican student activist, Tancredo spoke out in favor of the Vietnam War. After graduating from the University of Northern Colorado in June 1969, he became eligible to serve in Vietnam. Tancredo said he went for his physical, telling doctors he'd been treated for depression, and eventually got a "1-Y" deferment.
www.denverpost.com

That was too much for Terrible Tommy Tancredo, who indignantly demanded an apology -- for what? -- unhooked himself from his mic, packed up his marbles, and stormed off the set. Like a cockroach trying to escape the light.

I heard Tancredo on Hannity a few weeks ago. Even Hannity made the comment after the interview that this guy seems to be a few cards short of a full deck.

That was a shot to the nuts, but Tancredo's always throwing out hard-edged comments himself. It makes him look like a chicken to run out of the interview like that. My compliments to Kos.

It would've been so easy for Tancredo to handle. He could play the "you must be desperate to dredge up a 40-year old personal attack" card, and then get back to slandering the Veterans Administration.

I'd love to see Kos go up against Rush or Cheney with the same type interaction.


I laughed my ass off when I saw Tancredo run away from that dangerous character Moulitas....

But if you want to see a real fight, tune into the House on cspan right now as the Rethugs whine and bitch.

^.^

"I'd love to see Kos go up against Rush or Cheney with the same type interaction."

I don't know about Cheney, but Rush was too young to serve in Vietnam, so Kos wouldn't have that angle. Not to worry though ... Liberalista Dems with nothing better to do than snipe at others tend to find some idiotic thing to throw at people...

JEB

^.^

"That was too much for Terrible Tommy Tancredo, who indignantly demanded an apology -- for what? -- "

Because Moulitas was desperate for a dig at Tancredo and had to stoop to something 40 years old. If Obama can get away with the same thing ... "It was twenty years ago, I was a kid then", than how about attacking with something a bit more recent and relevant.


JEB

:I don't know about Cheney, but Rush was too young to serve in Vietnam"

Rush was born in 1951, and was eligible to go to Vietnam at the height of the war in 1969.

if you have ever heard this markos piece of shit. I would love to debate him sometime...but someone would have to be ready to post bail for me because I am pretty sure that it would end badly.

he is everything a good liberal wants to be

rude
mean
prejudiced
bigoted
intolerant of any ideas but his own

...tune into the House on cspan right now as the Rethugs whine and bitch.


#6 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-07 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag: PEE WEE HERMAN IS NOT ON NOW


Not worry Mr. Payback Two Face! Go ride your little red bike until he is back on. Vroom vroom.

Rush was born in 1951, and was eligible to go to Vietnam at the height of the war in 1969.

#9 | Posted by Timex at 2009-11-07 11:29 AM |


Details, details.

- ^
-

oops

forgot the most important one

a goddamn fuckin liar...

*(what...too much...)
ah you guys know I wasnt talking about any of you...hee hee)

"Rush was born in 1951, and was eligible to go to Vietnam at the height of the war in 1969."

There you go again, Timex...you and your pesky facts, ruining yet another rightwing talking point. How DARE you counter bullshit with the truth!!!

The Ed Show????


Heck, Mr. Ed had much better ratings and was a better speaker than him.

I mean come on, who watches him? Besides the obvious few like Daniel and Dorkly. I think his ratings are just below that 3 AM commercial for the Bullet Blender.

Wilburrrrrrrr!

#11 | Posted by The_Chapel at 2009-11-07 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag: Embarrasing 3rd graders on daily basis

I would love to debate him sometime...but someone would have to be ready to post bail for me because I am pretty sure that it would end badly.




#10 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-11-07 11:30 AM

You couldn't debate a third grader you fucking idiot.

As far as bail, the only thing you've ever beat down was yourself over some old librarian.

"forgot the most important one
a goddamn fuckin liar..."

You mean like folks who will post multiple lies about Carter, be called out on their bullshit, will then post links that actually prove them wrong, and still not retract?

Goddamn fuckin' liars like that?

afk just doesnt think the truth maters.

well how was that for a good saturday moring blast.

got JK and danny in one post....

ah its good to be the king

"but Rush was too young to serve in Vietnam"

No one who ever got a draft deferment could be too young to have served in Vietnam.

tune into the House on cspan right now as the Rethugs whine and bitch.


#6 | Posted by Corky at 2009


yeah
IM watching the PARTY OF NO

as in the GOP plan is FILLED WITH "NO's

NO tax increase
NO rationing
NO huge govt intrusion


BUT as long as the dems can keep that fuckin lie going about no killing of lives paid for by ME and other tax payers, then hey....lets all watch.
NO deficit spending
NO medicare cuts
NO mandates
NO unjust cancellations

"I would love to debate him sometime...but someone would have to be ready to post bail for me because I am pretty sure that it would end badly."

Yes, when old men strip off their clothes and babble incoherently about how much they love George Bush it is pretty distasteful. Especially when it is televised.

No one who ever got a draft deferment could be too young to have served in Vietnam.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2009-11


and again we get back to the same old tired and worn out nonsense about not serving means you can have no opinion
a sure sign the argument was won by the accused.


You can also see them whine, bitch, and moan here.

well how was that for a good saturday moring blast.

#20 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-11-07 11:39 AM

Translation: I just got my ass handed to me so I think I'll play it off as something I meant to do.

Aflacabltbabble.

Yes, when old men strip off their clothes and babble incoherently about how much they love George Bush it is pretty distasteful. Especially when it is televised.

#23 | Posted by danni


strIP off thier clothes

she said she was 18....honesT....

Translation: I just got my ass handed to me so I think I'll play it off as something I meant to do.


Aflacabltbabble.


#26 | Posted by jerrytarkanian

BY THE LIKeS OF YOU??

please...stay at the kiddies table..or click your heels and head on back to kansas cause you are dreamin

as in the GOP plan is FILLED WITH "NO's

NO chance for years to come.

"its good to be the king"

Of the liars?

Well...whatever floats your boat.

houston chronicle by keven brady...rep from 'round heh'

dems plan will increase premiums 15%
drive up drug cost 20%

and will STILL LEAVE 18 million uninsured

PROOF that dems dont give a fuck about health care reform...if they did they would let the gop get on the floor for debate heads up against twat pelosi's

or are they SCARED.....of course they are..they are too scared to let us see THERE PLAN much less an alternative.

There you go again, Timex...you and your pesky facts, ruining yet another rightwing talking point. How DARE you counter bullshit with the truth!!!

#14 | Posted by Danforth

Ha ha!

I swear some of the right wingers are brainwashed cult members who make up their own facts as they go. Told one guy last night, Jak Se Mao he should start his own hate cult/religion. Rev. Krazy Kooky Koresh

He's got the passionate Obama hate and end-of-times rhetoric down pat. All he needs are 2-300 followers with the IQ of rutabaga easily found at Teabag Parties - like these from Glenn Becks in D.C.:

www.youtube.com

NO chance for years to come.

#29 | Posted by jerrytarkanian


aACTUALLY

november 2, 2010 is inside of a year...

"dems plan will increase premiums 15%"

Over what...a decade?

Please, please...PLEASE!

in same article

quotes

"we estimate this would collectively reduce the bumber of people with employee health care by 12 million"

white house medicare and medicaid center.

proof of his lie about not losing yours.


"this legistation, which creates an expensive new entitlement, and expands the existing one, medicaid, does not do enough to address rising costs and is not financed in a sensible, sustainable way"

WASHINGTON POST


"the expansion of miedicaid is the mother of all govt UNFUNDED mandates.
gov phil brediesan..tennessee...DEMOCRA
T

aACTUALLY


november 2, 2010 is inside of a year...

#33 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-11-07 11:50 AM


..lLike I said.....

the "bumber" of people?

LOL

Fucking idiot.

SECTION 7201
SECION 7203

DEM health care can not only fine you thousands of dollars for not buying and getting under thier HANDS but it also includes years imprisoned in a federal facility

the AmERICAN GOVT COULD throw you in jail and fine you twenty five thousand dollars MINIMUM for not becoming one of "thier subjects'..

prediction in texas

could force closing of 40 doctor owned and run hospitals in a lot of rural areas..thus costing thousands of jobs and taxes for those smaller communities and cut access to care for those people

ah but dems dont give a fuck about that..not when they can smell the takeover of every aspect of our lives and get away with it..
well for now anyway.

costs 730 billion in taxes to small businesses
taxes on professionals, small business, and medical devices.

again..dems dont give a fuck about any of that...

AH BUT an asshole from kos makes an asshole of himslef and dems here salivate and get all sorts of 'feelings' running down thier legs.


make up anything you want from a typo fuckface..
I dont give a shit because it doesnt do anything but prove you dont know shit about any of it and have nothing to say other than the same old dogshit.

#39 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-11-07 11:59 AM


Good "debating" skills, Fucking Idiot.

Tom Tancredo, is a Coward an a Punk!!!!! When given the opportunity to serve in Viet Nam, Mr. Tancredo like his friend Dick Cheney, found other things to do, while others died saving their sorry ASSES!!!!!!!

These "CHICKEN HAWKS", make me want to Vomit. To bring it to them that they chose not to serve when the opportunity presented themselves, FUCK THEM, CHICKEN HAWKS PUNKS!!!!!!!!!!!

never forget he represents the party of lies, fear and hate. he has been schooled well

okay how about this then

sticks and stones may break my bones
but you are a fuckin asshole.

oh boy

HEY JERRY

your punk celisary is here now.


okay how about this then


sticks and stones may break my bones
but you are a fuckin asshole.

#45 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-11-07 12:10 PM


Like I said, a third grader would verbally hand your ass to you.

so I guess that puts you lower than a third grader huh?
gee dont be so hard on yourself...you could fit right in..oh maybe even middle school.

but it doesnt matter anyway...

hit three out of six races yesterday at breeders cup
going back today
and november 2, 2010 is a day closer.

Wow what an asshole Ko is--for sure.


People were not allowed in if they were treated for depression. And I suspect that the military doctor(s) checked out that this was true.


Why would Ko bring this up? Typical liberal pos.

And there is Shuster--"pimp out Chelsea" idiot--lost control over the debate.

And Ko was wrong on his talking points since the programs are broke.

But go ahead and throw out a fat joke--or in this case a depression joke--and move along.

Pilonidal Cysts were a popular ruse to get out of going to Vietnam in 1969 too.

Tancredo's 'depression' sure didn't stop him before or after he got his 1-Y deferment. Lots of people had a family doctor who'd make something up to help get them out of the draft.

Tancredo is just like Chimpy and Cheney, supporting the Vietnam War as long as the darkies, beaners and po' white folk were doing the dying while they were safe stateside. These chickenhawk pussies are a fucking riot.

Kos ENLISTED for a 3 year hitch. Tancredo tried to play the 'patriot' card. Backfired. End of story.

Tancredo's 'depression' sure didn't stop him before or after he got his 1-Y deferment. Lots of people had a family doctor who'd make something up to help get them out of the draft.

#50 | Posted by Timex at 2009-1


again

what difference does it make whether you were in the military or not.
it didnt matter to dem assholes that clinton didnt or some of the other corkshucsters.


AH but if its coming from a conservative...

well NOW we get it...

"I don't support federal funding of almost anything. If you want fair access to the airwaves, get a license like everyone else."

Translation: Real veteran discusses issue with draft dodger, real veteran wins argument, draft dodger demands apology, real veteran refuses, draft dodger stomps away in tantrum.

so RHIEN.

let me ask the question

what is your opinion on abortion?

OOPS NOT SO FAST

REACH DOWN BETWEEN YOUR LEGs...and you can only have an opinion if you feel a vagina..

ITS the same bullshit argument


(OKAY STOP REACHING NOW>)

and this will surely bring us to some sort of comment about cleland..RIGHT DANNI........doesnt it always..

Rusty Trombone, what the fuck does abortion have to do with Tancredo being called out for being a chickenhawk pussy?

sounds sort of what Ive been hearing on cnn about the TERRORIST ATTACK this week

even dr phil was on talking about oh...he had all sorts of ailments and syndromes

I would answer you but I dont know who this rusty fellow is you are talking to.

IF you are talking to me...its pretty simple logic actually

if I cant offer an opinion on war and such because I served my country in a classroom rather than in the military, then you cant have an opinion about abortion unless you have a vagina and thus are someone who COULD murder innocent life in the womb...

sorry if the nuance evades you....hee hee...

"what difference does it make whether you were in the military or not." - AFLKBLK2

If you're going to roll out the 'patriot' card, be sure your debate opponent isn't a veteran if you skipped out on the draft.

well thats a good point but who says you cant be a patriot when you didnt serve

so AGAIN>..did that keep clinton from being the commander in chief no matter how MUCH HE destroyed the intelligence departmenst and such..
reports from people ther write whole books about how he and hillary hated the military...HILLARY IN PARTICUALAR...

but dems didnt mind him not being a vet....

AND AS I said..I served my country in a classroom rather than in the military but that doesnt mean IM not a patriot..
problem here is that libs dont like patriotism..

WELL>..many done...proof of that is many posters here in the past..

"....problem here is that libs dont like patriotism.."

We don't like fake patriots like Cheney or Rush Limbaugh that rail on others, but sat out Vietnam while others got their asses shot off, cyst or not. Limbaugh's uncle, appointed by his 1-Y deferment went through.

Tancredo pulled a "Novak!"

Disphit ran for President and can't handle Moulitsas?

Actually given what I've heard Tancredo say over the yars, I admit I enjoyed watching him get his ass handed to him.

timex...one more time...are you willing to include blowjob billy in that

and speaking of.

we doNT LIKE assholes like kerry who did all the shit he did to the military and then salute and say

REPORTING FOR DUTY either

talk about fake

or max cleland who was held out as a real hero when NOW we know that he didnt get a purple heart for his sacrifice..why????
because he lost his limbs in an accident......

GOd bless him for his sacrifice and his service, but he's NO HERO..........

so keep up the nonsense

as for me

ITS POST TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!

Disphit ran for President and can't handle Moulitsas?


#65 | Posted by YAV


I WANNA PLAY
I WANNA PLAY


and ..and also..

obama will talk to dictators and marxists and criminals but is afraid of chris wallace and fox news.

I get it now...LOL

"if I cant offer an opinion on war and such because I served my country in a classroom rather than in the military, then you cant have an opinion about abortion unless you have a vagina and thus are someone who COULD murder innocent life in the womb..."

No one tried to keep Tancredo from expressing his opinion but they did object to him pretending to speak for most veterans when he isn't even one.

Tancredo looked like a scum sucking coward in that interview.

so did he say he spoke for vets?
can you imagine that he has talked to lots of vets?
running away scared from punks like this guy isnt what he should have done...thats for damn sure but this notion that you cant be a supported for veterans is like what libs say about being called unamerican just because they are in favor of turning the US into venezuala 'north'...

post time

and out.

being called unamerican just because they are in favor of turning the US into venezuala 'north'...



see how I went after the unamerican charge of some and at the same time said that VERY THING>.hee hee


pretty good huh..LOL

"we doNT LIKE assholes like kerry who did all the shit he did to the military and then salute and say"-AFKLABL

Kerry did 2 tours. He earned his right to his opinion.

Kerry volunteered for the 2nd tour in Vietnam.

Low blow, but face it, Tanceredo is as hawkish as they come yet when his country called on him to serve he ran away.
you would think that such an experience would temper some of his present positions on war, but no, its bomb this and bomb that.

Coward.

Since when does Vietnam service make one a liberal's hero?

Kerry signed up for a second tour, but he was confused, he thought it was the Cambodian war... Besides, I'm sure he's got a thing for BBQ'd Baby....


Seriously, it's MSLSD, who gives a flyin fuck anyhow?

^.^

I'm a patriot, but I was not able to enlist when I was younger, and they certainly wouldn't take me now, so I've not been in the military.

Soes this mean I can't speak about veteran's issues because I've never been in the military?

I work in a call center, and every time I get a call from one of the military bases, I thank the soldier for their service to this country. I've stopped into the local recruiting station and thanked the soldiers there for their service as well.

Are you saying that because I have never been in the military that I can not have legitimate views on military or veteran's issues?

JEB

Call Center?? Do you live in India? I thought they didn't have them in America anymore??

^.^

"Call Center?? Do you live in India? I thought they didn't have them in America anymore??"

Incredibly, they still have some in the US. The one I work at is in Laramie, WY.

JEB

I don't know about Cheney, but Rush was too young to serve in Vietnam, so Kos wouldn't have that angle.

Nope. Rush Limbaugh was old enough, and after he dropped out of college, the only thing that kept his ass out of Vietnam was his claim to have an oozing infection-prone hole atop his buttcrack.

#79

Please....we just finished dinner.

That visual isn't agreeing with my stomach.

Explains a lot about El Flushbo, though, doesn't it?

Nothing I didn't already know about him.

Honestly, I don't understand how some people can feel good about themselves.

Speaking of Flushbos, will the Retort ever feature killfiles?

For some strange reason, I want to be able to block all IP's from public libraries in Houston, TX.

It's a tough nut to crack. I'm still committed to adding it, but the code isn't working right.

if you have ever heard this markos piece of shit. I would love to debate him sometime...but someone would have to be ready to post bail for me because I am pretty sure that it would end badly.
#10 | Posted by afkabl2

Is this country going to hell in a handbasket or what? I mean, putting a guy in jail just for making a fool of himself?

I don't know about Cheney, but Rush was too young to serve in Vietnam, so Kos wouldn't have that angle. Not to worry though ... Liberalista Dems with nothing better to do than snipe at others tend to find some idiotic thing to throw at people...

JEB

#7 | Posted by lunahq7

"I don't know about Cheney"? ...and taking the three seconds to find that information is beyond your capabilities?
Typical ditto head. You feel the need to spout off your garbage without doing a tiny bit of research.
And in case you missed the previous posts, Rush was 18 in 1969. Dumbass.

the code isn't working right

Been there, done that.

Good luck.

Tancredo is a big fat pussy.


Low blow, but face it, Tanceredo is as hawkish as they come yet when his country called on him to serve he ran away.
you would think that such an experience would temper some of his present positions on war, but no, its bomb this and bomb that.


Coward.

#74 | Posted by Doem at 2009-11-07 01:17 PM

LOL

Hilarious.

Tancredo is a douche, but so are all of the retards who think the military should've let some clinically depressed person in just so that person can "back up" his patriotism.


Low blow, but face it, Tanceredo is as hawkish as they come yet when his country called on him to serve he ran away.
you would think that such an experience would temper some of his present positions on war, but no, its bomb this and bomb that.


Coward.

#74 | Posted by Doem at 2009-11-07 01:17 PM | Reply |

Coward? Maybe.


But I gotta think some of the last people I'd want to be in a foxhole with is a god fearing, young student republican with depression issues, trained to kill, given heavy firepower and put in the line with me.

I need someone a little more attached to earth than that...

But I gotta think some of the last people I'd want to be in a foxhole with is a god fearing, young student republican with depression issues, trained to kill, given heavy firepower and put in the line with me.

I need someone a little more attached to earth than that...

#89 | Posted by KnightHawk at 2009-11-08 07:25 PM

No rational person would want anyone with depression issues, regardless of party affiliation, next to them with an assault rifle, explosions and gun fire all around.

I have a great idea: nobody who is granted a deferment for anything short of severe physical limitations should be allowed in politics. Who's with me?

dems plan will increase premiums 15%...

#31 | Posted by afkabl2




Better than what I get every year now, BL

You've never written a health insurance premium check in your life, have you?

dems plan will increase premiums 15%...

The U.S. workers at our company just saw all their premiums rise 25% for next year. We're in "open enrollment" right now.

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