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A firsthand account from a soldier present during the Fort Hood shootings, according to Kevin Drum at Mother Jones: "I was walking into the medical SRP building when he started firing (he never made it to the main SRP building ... the media accounts are understandably pretty off right now). He was calmly and methodically shooting everyone. Like every non-deployed military post, no one was armed. For the first time in my life I really wish I had a weapon. I don't know how to explain what it feels like to have someone shoot at you while you're unarmed. He missed me but didn't miss a lot of others."

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If there is a backlash against the Muslims of this country, they have brought it on themselves.

Attagirl Sam. You're a peach.

Sam I don't think 1 nutbar represents an entire religion.

The shooter was a Palestinian. Maybe the Israelis can get us some justice.

If there is a backlash against the Muslims of this country, they have brought it on themselves.

How did the millions of Muslims in this country bring a backlash on themselves because of the actions of one deranged murderer? The way some people are talking, it's as if they're itching for an excuse to round up America's Muslims and send them to internment camps.

RCADE-
We did that to the Japanese when we fought them. We have since deemed that to have been improper, so I don't see us going that direction in the future.

"How did the millions of Muslims in this country bring a backlash on themselves because of the actions of one deranged murderer?" - RCADE

I think you're being somewhat disengenous here. It's much more than this one deranged murderer, as I'm sure you're aware of events over the past decade or so.

round up America's Muslims and send them to internment camps..

#5 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2009-11-06 07:30 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Well it is the American Way.

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Second!

It's unfortunate that the stigma of (anti-)American Muslims persists. However, it is hard to understate how much more unfortunate it is that events such as the Fort Hood Massacre will do to further solidify opinions on the matter.

I work side by side with a Saudi Muslim and an Israeli Jew. A lot of ignorant people in the US would assume they would both be eager to kill one another. However, they are nothing but professional. Often times they get language help from one another.

You can't judge a book by it's cover. And you can't judge a library by one book.

How did the millions of Muslims in this country bring a backlash on themselves because of the actions of one deranged murderer? The way some people are talking, it's as if they're itching for an excuse to round up America's Muslims and send them to internment camps.

#5 | Posted by rcade

Replace Muslim with Christian and you have a typical leftie response to a story about Christians

BTW I'm not a Christian

I think you're being somewhat disengenous here. It's much more than this one deranged murderer, as I'm sure you're aware of events over the past decade or so.


#7 | Posted by OohRah at 2009-11-06 07:38 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Yawnnnnnnnnnnnn like Erik Rudolph Like Scott Roeder like that one Army of G-d chick thats doing time in Topeka for bombing George Tillers abortion clinic. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nickoles NONMuslims. Want Me to go on??

Larry

Sure, Larry--go on. There are terrorist attacks every day by Muslims. You're up to four or five? Had to go back fifteen years or so? There were eleven that did 9/11.

So keep counting. Let's see how high you go.

" There were eleven that did 9/11."

Nineteen, but who's counting. Oh, and none of them were from Iraq.

I can GAURANTEE you that little will change in this country with regard to the government taking a closer look at muslims in this country (which is needed). I can also GAURANTEE you that these insane muslims will make another terrorist attack in the US, similar to several shootings they have already committed, and it will be whitewashed by big brother and his media companions.

This was a slaughter commited by a muslim who desired to commit JIHAD on INFIDELS. Sure, there were other things in his life that may have contributed to his actions, but the BIGGEST contributor was his desire to commit jihad in accordance with his islamic faith. Terror and murder was the best way for this nut to bring attention to his beliefs.

You libs can peddle water for these nuts all you want, but I am not going to buy into it. And tell those slobs Dr phil and Rosie O'Dingelberry to shove it.

I can GUARANTEE you are a dumbass.

"peddle water"??

back around 200 plus years ago people peddled waters from special streams that claimed to heal all sorts of ailments. I think that's what He means.

Larry

What's your point, LAR? That we can make assumptions about a mass of folks given the multiple actions of some of them?

There are terrorist attacks every day by Muslims.

Not in the United States. And even overseas, the attacks by a small number of extremists Muslims have nothing to do with billions of Muslims.

There are millions of Muslims in the U.S. The lack of attacks here would suggest quite strongly that they are decent people who are as sickened by this shooting as everyone else.


What's your point, LAR? That we can make assumptions about a mass of folks given the multiple actions of some of them?

Posted by OohRah at 2009-11-06 08:13 PM | Reply

Nahhhhhhhhh that's not My gig that's Yours and Your fellow Right Wingers gig. Sorry don't blame Me.

Larry

What's your point, LAR? That we can make assumptions about a mass of folks given the multiple actions of some of them?

Posted by OohRah

You did that yesterday when you were attempting to making a point through anecdotal evidence of your 'job training' (?) seminars being 'Obama supporters'. Was that code for 'African-American'?

Assumptions never get made in America, eh? Half the right wing posters here throw around things like "Dems don't pay taxes" or "they leech off the government". When I posted U.S. Census Bureau statistics that showed Red States have the highest % per capita living in poverty and lowest per capita income, while Blue States had the highest income per capita and highest % of college graduates all we saw was silence, except for your comment about "Obama Supporters".

Bigoted morons abound.
The Dude abides.

What's your point, LAR? That we can make assumptions about a mass of folks given the multiple actions of some of them?

Posted by OohRah at 2009-11-06 08:13 PM | Reply

Nahhhhhhhhh that's not My gig that's Yours and Your fellow Right Wingers gig. Sorry don't blame Me.

#22 | Posted by LarryMohr

How about assumptions like right-wingers don't like 0bama cause he's black and conservatives don't care about people just cause they oppose the federal government getting involved in healthcare?

Here spit on this here kerchief and I'll wipe the egg off your face Larry

And Muller coming out with no link to terrorism and not investigating it that way needs to get him fired.

No way you can say that less than an hour into it.

I think the point is getting lost on the whole race/religion issue. Every race/religion/creed etc has their crazies. Get everyone arguing about muslims/skinheads/bloods/
christians/nazis/socialists/
racists/scientologists/etc; so that no one talks about the actual problem.

The point and the problem is Our Soldiers where attacked at their own base and what can we do to stop this from happening again. I would suggest that to avoid further incidents such as this that soldiers all carry guns on bases. I trust US Soldiers to fight in wars all over the place, I see nothing wrong with them all carrying guns on military bases (to be honest I sorta thought they did).

How about assumptions like right-wingers don't like 0bama cause he's black and conservatives don't care about people just cause they oppose the federal government getting involved in healthcare?


Here spit on this here kerchief and I'll wipe the egg off your face Larry

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2009-11-06 08:40 PM | Reply


I have it on good authority tyhat Right Wingers dispise Obama because of His race. GAS please do get more educated upon the subject matter at hand thanks. No Egg is on My face because I speak the truth.

Larry

"...like Erik Rudolph Like Scott Roeder like that one Army of G-d chick thats doing time in Topeka for bombing George Tillers abortion clinic. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nickoles NONMuslims. Want Me to go on??" - LAR

Just so I understand you... you are NOT making a claim that some people lump a whole bunch of people in the 'dangerous' file due to the actions of some. Is that it?

Oh and if You reallyu and truly want to get down to brass tacks. The whole Iraq war not only illegal but was perpetrated terroristically by a White Right Winged Christian Organ (PNAC) so now what say YOU Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Larry

americans have killed way more muslims than muslims americans. americans and europeans were killing muslims for years before the first one blew themselves up. you'd think this sort of thing would happen more often, with americans destroying the infrastructure of entire civilizations like in iraq, i'm surprised more muslims don't do this.

that being said, muslims won't bring america to its knees. americans will do that.

How about assumptions like right-wingers don't like 0bama cause he's black and conservatives don't care about people just cause they oppose the federal government getting involved in healthcare?
Here spit on this here kerchief and I'll wipe the egg off your face Larry

#25 | POSTED BY GIMME_A_SCOTCH AT 2009-11-06 08:40 PM | REPLY | FLAG: Retort of the day thank you Scotch!

Just so I understand you... you are NOT making a claim that some people lump a whole bunch of people in the 'dangerous' file due to the actions of some. Is that it?

Posted by OohRah at 2009-11-06 08:53 PM | Reply

No quite the opposite. Your right winged brethern have done nothing but label all Muslims the enemy because of the actions of a few. Always claiming each attack by someone who happens to be a muslim then it was a jihadist or some such nonsense.

Larry

I have it on good authority tyhat Right Wingers dispise Obama because of His race. GAS please do get more educated upon the subject matter at hand thanks. No Egg is on My face because I speak the truth.

#28 | Posted by LarryMohr


Convenient but wrong assumption Larry get yourself educated

Nerferherder: You seem like an enlightened fella? But you fall woefully short in your understanding of history.

Here is a book I recommend for you and for anyone who really cares how we got into this mess:

The Forge of Christendom, Tom Holland.

Tom is an Oxford graduation, I believe number one in his class.

He holds nothing back on Christian history.

And likewise Moslem.

Convenient but wrong assumption Larry get yourself educated

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2009-11-06 09:01 PM | Reply


You have no fucking clue dude. It's painfully obvious.

Larry

Larry you left wing sycophant.

I am right wing, and I am conservative.

And I voted for Obama.


"There are terrorist attacks every day by Muslims."

The Catholic Church kills more people in the 3rd world everyday with its policies on contraceptive use. That's big-time terrorism.

"I am right wing, and I am conservative.
And I voted for Obama."

And you're the one saying you know better than li'l ol' me?

Yeeeeeesh...

Nulli: Are they blocking your shipments of condoms from getting there?

No seriously Nerf. Read this guys stuff. He brings our collective histories to life.

And what you ponder after reading (this book, his book Rubicon and his book Persian Fire), is will European and Middle East/Asian cultures ever stop butchering the fuck out of each other?

Now click the heels of your size 15 boots together 3 times as you say "I wish the conservatives who are opposed to 0bama are racist"

Didn't work? No problem you've already convinced yourself and that's all that matters isn't it?

Won't somebody please buy Larry a smidgeon of reality?

And by the way Larry.

Fuck you.

Hey GAS how many bloody times have we here heard the term Halfercan American. How many times have we here heard the term Chimpy to refer to Obama. How many times have we here heard Obama being refered to as a N word. Most of the time it is a Righty tighty who does it. I am sorry GAS but that's the truth.

Larry

"is will European and Middle East/Asian cultures ever stop butchering the fuck out of each other?"


who gives a shit? i'm american. my question is "will america ever grow up and stop puffing itself up over getting lured in and stuck in ideological military quagmires all around the third world?"

prolly not. when it stops there won't be an america.

#28 | Posted by LarryMohr

What is this 'good authority'?

I have heard no one who's opinion I respect make this statement.

I am well to the right of many who most here. I am opposed to many of President Obama's positions. It has not a damned thing to do with his race.

To make such a blanket statement is nothing less than pure prejudice. It smacks of the elitism that is so evident in some prominant liberals. Those who disagree can't have a valid reason. They must be idiots, racist, uneducated, or just suffer from a mental illness.


And by the way Larry.


Fuck you.

#43 | Posted by boojiboy at 2009-11-06 09:15 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Sorry but No Thank You. You smell horrible.

Larry

www.philly.com

Those who disagree can't have a valid reason. They must be idiots, racist, uneducated, or just suffer from a mental illness.

Posted by Cowboy

Those 'valid reasons' don't too often don't make any sense.

For instance, Earlier, I was debating the "public option" with a right winger whose handle is "Free Choice", 'choice' being the most common synonym for 'option'. Want 'choice'? 'Choose' the 'option' you prefer.

Then we hear how Democrats are 'leechs' sucking on the govt. teat who don't pay taxes. Census Bureau facts are states with the highest per capita % living in poverty are Red. Those with the highest % per capita on public assistance, Red. States with the highest per capita incomes, Blue (who also pay the most taxes). Those with the highest % of college degrees Blue. Those that get more Federal $'s per dollar paid in are Red, Alabama, Alaska, and Louisian 1, 2, and 3.

Too often, rhetoric from the right is nonsensical when compared to the truth via verified, undeniable facts.

Not all Muslims are terrorists..... But read the Koran.... LOL! There are some iffy things in there. I can not ever seeing Christians and Muslims being one! NEVER! WTF? PC America!!!

Kind of make me wonder why this dude got a free ride through college and then snapped! Religious Nutjob!!!! Even worse a religious nutjob reading the Koran!!!!

Timex, your #49 post: An anecdote about your discussion with a poster on the Drudge Retort is not an indicator of how most Conservatives or Republicans defend their points of view.

You could just as easily say:

Too often, rhetoric from the left is nonsensical when compared to the truth via verified, undeniable facts.

I am well to the right of many who most here. I am opposed to many of President Obama's positions. It has not a damned thing to do with his race. -- #46 | Posted by Cowboy

FWIW, I'm well to the left of most who post here, and was honored to have the opportunity to vote for Jesse Jackson years ago. I voted third party last fall -- never believed Obama was committed to anything but his own advancement, was disgusted by his Beaumont speech, and couldn't vote for anyone who supported the bailout bill. I, too, get tired of the accusations of racism.


Not all Muslims are terrorists..... But read the Koran.... LOL! There are some iffy things in there. I can not ever seeing Christians and Muslims being one! NEVER! WTF? PC America!!!


Kind of make me wonder why this dude got a free ride through college and then snapped! Religious Nutjob!!!! Even worse a religious nutjob reading the Koran!!!!

Posted by Unclesam at 2009-11-06 09:30 PM | Reply

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm I hate to be a bearer of bad news(Not really but I was trying) The Quran was taken from the Old Testament of the Bible. I am sorry but the old testament demands killing the infidel. I am sorry to have brought this to Your attention but they are the same.

Larry

The Quran was taken from the Old Testament of the Bible. I am sorry but the old testament demands killing the infidel. I am sorry to have brought this to Your attention but they are the same.

#53 | Posted by LarryMohr

You are so full of shit that I can't believe it.

Although the Old Testament and the Quran share some philosophies one cannot state that the Quran was taken from the Old Testament.

You insult Muslim's, Jews, and Christians ( I am none of the above) with such stupid, irresponsible drivel.

If you are trying to say that they share philosophical points that state so clearly and not that one is derived from the other.

Letter from Fort Hood.

Just when you thought that Toby Keith was out of material.

No Cowboy I am dead on accurate. The Quran was mostly derived from the Old Testament. I am sorry that that information hurts You Cowboy but tis the truth whether You want to believe that is upto You.

Larry

"The Quran was taken from the Old Testament of the Bible."


"The Quran was mostly derived from the Old Testament"

Can't wait for the the third comparison, don't let me down Larry...

I have a permit to carry my weapon. If I saw this guy he'd be dead before he hit the ground. All military should be armed, at all times. He was armed and the fallen weren't. Why?

I say an armed army/citizens at home is best able to protect the homeland. We use to believe that way. Going back to that way of thinking/living is good/better?

Sadly, for some it's too late.

You insult Muslim's, Jews, and Christians with such stupid, irresponsible drivel.


No, he doesn't. He's right.


No Cowboy I am dead on accurate.


He's dead on accurate.

Or so I will say when it's Sunday and I am back to being a Pakistani. LOL

Oh and if memory serves Me correctly the Grand Father of Arabs was Abraham

Oh and if memory serves Me correctly the Grand Father of Arabs was Abraham


Right again.

You been hitting the books lately?

#21 | Posted by rcade - Where are they? Are they stepping up to the plate to denounce this?

Where are they? Are they stepping up to the plate to denounce this?


You only know ONE American-muslim on DR (Klifferd) and he denounced it quite strongly yesterday.

Nah just something I remembered from a few Years ago. I've since checked and Abraham was the Patriarch of not only Muslims but Christians and Jews as well. So basically the fighting between Christians Jews and Muslims is nothing more than Family squabbles since we are all religious kinfolk. You know the only time I have had ANY so called troubles with Muslims was back when I was around 7 or 8 Years old and our family would go to the Town East Mall in Wichita Kansas. There was an Arab there on second floor that sold Pianos if memory serves Me correctly. I could never figure out what that silly looking hat was that He wore(At that time I couldn't) I always thought it was some sort of hair covering to keep the hair from falling out. Looked about like Moms hair dryer hood that She wore to dry Her hair. Least NOW I know what it is. Thank G-d.

Larry

Jews, Christians and Muslims are all children of Abraham. They all worship the same G-d.

The difference is the incorporation of the prophets into the religious texts.

Muslims see Jesus and Muhammad as prophets.
Christians, just Jesus.
Jews, neither.

The Muslim name for G-d, "Allah" shares a root with the Hebrew name for G-d "Yahweh," as you might discren simply by saying both names aloud (if you're not afraid of doing that sort of thing). And it's also pretty obvious the link from Yahweh > JHVH > Jehovah.

But this is largely beside the point. They don't fight over G-d, they fight over economic and resource issues, as is usually the case when we go to war. Religious zealots are a symptom, not the cause.

Though it's true that zealots can be exploited (as we did the Mujhadeen in Afghanistan giving rise to Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda) to cause even greater problems. To that extent, religious fanaticism is a worry. Sort of like a hornet's nest. Don't poke it, you probably won't get stung. Western civilization likes to throw its weight around (conquering, it's one of our major strengths) and we've become pretty bad at not poking things we shouldn't.

Or perhaps a better analogy is handing the guy next to us our poking-stick and a twenty dollar bill to poke the next, then making believe we were attacked viciously and without reason when the hornets inevitably swarm.

#29 (OOH)
"...like Erik Rudolph Like Scott Roeder like that one Army of G-d chick thats doing time in Topeka for bombing George Tillers abortion clinic. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nickoles NONMuslims. Want Me to go on??" - LAR
Just so I understand you... you are NOT making a claim that some people lump a whole bunch of people in the 'dangerous' file due to the actions of some. Is that it?"

LAR's response in #33:
No quite the opposite. Your right winged brethern have done nothing but label all Muslims the enemy because of the actions of a few. Always claiming each attack by someone who happens to be a muslim then it was a jihadist or some such nonsense.

I was being sarcastic, LAR. You most certainly are in citing Rudolph, McVeigh, etc. Don't you see the irony?


How did the millions of Muslims in this country bring a backlash on themselves because of the actions of one deranged murderer? The way some people are talking, it's as if they're itching for an excuse to round up America's Muslims and send them to internment camps.

#5 | Posted by rcade

Yes; but just be sure you purchase Pelosi's Health Insurance.

It's fine to belong to a group of insane, bloodthirsty 3rd century cult of devil worshipers...

...but just don't go uninsured!

Not all Pit Bulls are bad either. But...

...would you own one?

why is it all muslims in america come under suspicion? why not all army majors or all psychiatrist?

Barry said "don't rush to judgement" unless a white policeman is involved. Did The Liar-in-Chief figure out what happened at Ft. Hood yet?

The lack of attacks here would suggest quite strongly that they are decent people who are as sickened by this shooting as everyone else.

#21 | Posted by rcade at 2009-11-06 08:14 PM

And I would say if you ask any Muslim to choose between Allah and loyalty to the USA, Allah wins.

And I would say if you ask any Christian to choose between Jesus and loyalty to the USA, Jesus wins.


Probably neither the average Muslim nor the average Christian would commit murder though.

Sure, Larry--go on. There are terrorist attacks every day by Muslims. You're up to four or five? Had to go back fifteen years or so? There were eleven that did 9/11.

So keep counting. Let's see how high you go.

#14 | Posted by rightisblight

There are terrorist attacks every day by religious conservatives. Who cares which fairy tale they believe? Should we round up all the religious conservatives?

"There are terrorist attacks every day by religious conservatives."

Evidence? Yeah, and religious conservatives blow people up all the time too huh? Oh, and they are known for cutting off the heads of non-believers, just to make a point right?

Just like Muslims.

Evidence? Yeah, and religious conservatives blow people up all the time too huh? Oh, and they are known for cutting off the heads of non-believers, just to make a point right?


Just like Muslims.

Posted by HopeyChangey at 2009-11-07 02:01 PM | Reply


Dubya did He blew people up and beheaded them all because they were unbelievers so what say You now Hmmmmmmmmmmmm bwhahahahahahahahah Oh and He said He was a Christian too bwhahhaahahha I bet that tears at Your stupid tripe now doesn't it?? bwhahahahah

Larry

I take it LARRYMORON was too many characters for his poster name.

Sam I don't think 1 nutbar represents an entire religion.

#3 | Posted by andyuhenet

Are you nucking futs? In the past 10 years there have been many. Not to mention the DC snipers. Oh shit.... I forgot the World Trade Center.

"Sam I don't think 1 nutbar represents an entire religion."

Except if it is a Christian and involves a baby killing clinic.

How did the millions of Muslims in this country bring a backlash on themselves because of the actions of one deranged murderer?

I think there is an obvious reason so many Americans on the right see this as a excuse to blame the Muslim religion. These same people all stood behind the Commander in Chief in 2001 after the Saudis were found to have flown the planes into the twin towers. They spent the country into the poor house with the Patriot Act, the huge increase in bureaucracy of the DHS and the final insult, a trumped up preempted war in Iraq based on phony planted evidence. When it all turned out to be bull shit and politically motivated at that, the right prayed that there was indeed a terrorist behind every bush (no pun intended). After so many paid the ultimate price with loss of life and the maiming of thousands more in the war, they prayed even harder that they would find some terrorists in the country. When it was all discovered to be nothing but lies and subterfuge, the right needed to find some scapgoat they could point at and say,"See I told you all along there was terrorists in America waiting to kill us all".

It's human nature to never admit when you are wrong, even if it means ignoring the values that made America great in the the first place, freedom of beliefs, freedom of religion and civil rights for all men.

When it all turned out to be bull shit and politically motivated at that


Want to see more lies and bullshit?

OK.

Since forever, America has been INSISTING that Osama bin Ladin was hiding in Waziristan.

Well, we are taking Waziristan apart right now. And we can't find ANY evidence he was ever here. LOL

Lies exposed.

Welcome Back Tosser

And we can't find ANY evidence he was ever here

Agreed.

Welcome Back Tosser


Thank you. Nice to be back.

Being an American... even for a week.... was getting on my nerves.

As you can see, Moder8 suffered the promised psychotic episode is nowhere to be found.

Agreed.


Now everyone and their dog, can see what a lying piece of shit America has been.

Doesn't matter who the president is... they lie.

Kept insisting that "American intelligence" (what a jokes!... snicker snicker...) KNEW that Osama was holed up in Waziristan.

Nope.

They were lying all along, trying to hide their own incompetence. And now everyone can see.

Funny, you can't find a right wing fanatic to reply to this post now. What's the matter, common sense finally got your tongue?

#82 Ringwormaster it's boring and usless to debate and attempt to relate truth to insane criminals who live their lives filled with Racial and Religious hatred, with evil in their hearts toward Americans and Christians...

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