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In a video that has gone viral this week, a fourth grader at Randolph Elementary School in San Antonio, Texas, was about to give a report on her dad, MSgt. Joseph Myers, when she got a surprise.

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So sweet. Thanks for posting that.

Oh, and "unexpected surprise" is redundant.

LOVE the peace sign.

"You mean my dad's NOT on the other side of the world making sure Israel and Oil Companies are safe? He's here and can actually take care of ME? What a relief."

Her emotion is real and i hope her dad can find a better career.

I also hope people see this as a call to bring them home, not a propagandistic enforcement of the patriotic soldier returning home myth.

Absolutely AWESOME!
Here's hoping we can get the rest of them home soon.....

Speaksoftly you are a moron whose live is going nowhere you miserable piece of shit.

"speak softly' and carry a limp dick!

So sweet. Thanks for posting that.

I second that emotion. Thanks Rcade, very cool and uplifting.

I hope a lot more children get that experience in the near future.

I also hope people see this as a call to bring them home, not a propagandistic enforcement of the patriotic soldier returning home myth.

What's your problem? This isn't really political video.

It's a little girl who gets to see her fucking father. Be happy.

"I also hope people see this as a call to bring them home, not a propagandistic enforcement of the patriotic soldier returning home myth."

But YOU, you are a patriot and this guy isn't...right? You wouldn't make a pimple on a patriot's ass.

Whoopdie freakin doo!

That video says it all, without audio. Yessireee!

Aww, that's awesome!

God bless our military forces, protect them from evil.

That girl's reaction is a tearjerker. Especially when you think that there are thousands of kids like her making the huge sacrifice by having their parents serving at war.

My eyes tear up every time that plays.

Break out the tissues, there's a lot of these going around.

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There's no way I even got close to finding them all, but this one really rips me up:

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As heartwarming as all these videos are, let's not forget the children (and parents and siblings for that matter) that will never have the chance for this kind of reunion.

Kids lives affected directly by Republican and corporate American greed and religious hate.

If the kid was black she'd get none of the positive feedback that the True Nazi Patriots (Republican..wink, wink) on this site are dispensing.

White racist war mongering greed infested...sympathy. Makes one want to vomit....

Bring the soldiers home.....Post them on OUR borders.

Hey ArmyVet, if you really are, it's Obama's war now. He could have brought them home months ago. He made that promise during his teleprompter campaign. Wake up from your drug induced post traumatic stress disorder and smell the reality. Republicans are minorities in both houses, and there is a Democrap as President. Pukes like you are in charge, now, so blame them.

Spoke,

Unfortunately you are right. This makes 2 presidents that lied. One lied for 8 years, the other has only 1 under his belt. Call me back in 3 and I'll call the Democratic one 1/2 the ass that the retarted Republican was.

Here is a truly tear jerking children for you to experience

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"He could have brought them home months ago."

And then you idiots would have hollered bloody murder too. It takes months to redeploy 120,000 soldiers. God I'm sick of right wing lunatics.

Thanks for posting!!!!! This was great! Brought tears to my eyes! My girl is 12 and can not even imagine how that would feel to come back and see her! Wow. Thanks!!!!!

If the kid was black she'd get none of the positive feedback that the True Nazi Patriots (Republican..wink, wink) on this site are dispensing.

Flagged as offensive. I've never flagged anyone and I'll man up and say I was the one to do it.

ArmyVet, how do you live your life with such a fevered mind?

How many iraqi children died

do you care?

I did a humanitarian aid mission for burn victim children in Kabul, Clemens. It was depressing as hell but also eye opening at how positive those kids were, and it made me feel good that they were so happy to get the most basic shit that we gave them. Any time that children die is sad, is that what you are looking for?

This video has nothing to do with Iraqi (or Afghan) kids dying, this is a good video about a kid seeing her dad, who she thought was in harms way.

THat child has the benefit of enjoying her father alive and well.

Many Iraqi children and many Iraqi parents dont have that priveldge.

Because of our actions.

So she shouldn't be happy? Military families reuniting won't ever make you happy because of the actions of superiors, mainly the CiC. Got it. Makes perfect sense. Because the CiC, this enlisted dad's daughter shouldn't be brought to tears with joy when he gets back. Perfect sense. Clear headed thinking like this is great for this country.

I was so dumb! I didn't realize that this Msgt was the reason we invaded Iraq. It was his decision, how dare his daughter be happy to see him.

didnt say that.

I only feel shame watching this video.

knowing the pain our actions have caused.

If I were an Iraqi seeing that video I would probably feel some resentment.

Oh heaven forfend this girl didn't worry about pissing of Iraqis. She should be reminded of all the kids that her dad killed, right?

Go start a thread on all the Iraqi's we've killed and I'll start talking about this video.


I was so dumb! I didn't realize that this Msgt was the reason we invaded Iraq. It was his decision, how dare his daughter be happy to see him.

#28 | Posted by andyuhenet


THere is a distinct possibility this Msgt created a few orphans in Iraq.

didnt realize I was talking to her I thought I was talking to you.

didnt realize I was talking to her I thought I was talking to you.

???

THere is a distinct possibility this Msgt created a few orphans in Iraq.

And this is the root of it. Veteran's are child killers. The 1960's called, they want you back. I'm surprised you showed your cards so soon.

reading comprehension got you down?

created a few ORPHANS

as in killed parents leaving children orphans

ahhh forget it, too much effort required

Haha, you got me. Ok you aren't calling them baby killers, you are calling them parent killers, not quit as bad.

are you contending that US forces did not kill parents?

or that the invasion of iraq resulted in the creation of orphans?

what color is the sky in your world?

Good thing there wasn't anyone else in Iraq killing people, just this one parent-killing Airman. Good thing Saddam didn't kill anyone's parents while he was trying to eradicate various groups. Clemens, you are an embarrassment, a poorly educated fool with the reasoning of a turnip. If this is how you see your country, why are you still here? Surely you'd be happier off fighting for the Taliban or various Iraqi insurgent groups. Of course you wouldn't kill any parents or children, since you and the terrorists are so much more civilized than the rest of us. I'd pity you, but I'll reserve my emotions for the young girl and others like her.

No. I've never said that, of course parents died as a result of the Iraq war. Please provide my quote denying that Iraqi parents died.

Thank you in advance.

Nice. Thanks for posting these.

Sure be nice if her Dad could now stay home but I fear he will just now end up in Afghanistan. I think our country is tired of war. I bet that family is. I wonder how many tours of duty in war zones these people can really be expected to endure. At some point we have to say, enough is enough. I'm sort of hoping the President disappoints Gen. McChrystal.

Her emotion is real and i hope her dad can find a better career.

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You, sir, are an asshole.

Yeah let's tell every career military person that their career choice sucks. What do YOU do for a living? I mean besides be a professional d-bag.


are you contending that US forces did not kill parents?


or that the invasion of iraq resulted in the creation of orphans?


what color is the sky in your world?

#36 | Posted by clemens at 2009-11-05 10:03 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Are you contending the number of Iraqi's killed are not VASTLY overestimated by groups that have a vested interest in inflating such numbers to paint the entire operation in a bad light?

Or that most of the Iraqi's that have been killed have been killed by IRAQI'S?

Yes we have killed some parents over there. No question, and yes some of them have been mistaken identity, or collateral damage. ANd it sucks, and I HATE it. But when the badguys hide in hospitals, Mosque's, or stand in crowds and try to kill soldiers hoping we can't return fire, it happens.

The difference between the US military and the Iraqi's is that we take conscious steps to minimize casualties as much as is absolutely possible. They, like all cowardly Muslim extremists, is they INTEND to cause as much collateral damage and death of innocents as possible.

"Are you contending the number of Iraqi's killed are not VASTLY overestimated by groups that have a vested interest in inflating such numbers to paint the entire operation in a bad light?"

What "vested interest" did The Lancet have???

"Lancet surveys of Iraq War casualties
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But, on the other hand the underestimates done by supporters of the invasion had obvious motives for their claims of lower casualty rates.
You obviously reject information that doesn't provide cover for the invasion but the truth is available from sources, like the Lancet, who have no motive for lying.

Jeez Danni,

THIS couldn't have anything to do with it:

"The Lancet surveys are controversial due to their methodology and because their mortality figures are higher than most other reports that used different methodologies, including those of the Iraq Body Count project, the Iraqi Health Ministry and the United Nations, as well as other household surveys such as the Iraq Living Conditions Survey and the Iraq Family Health Survey."


The problem with ALL of these surveys and studies, is they rely on polling data by asking Iraqi's how many friends and family they have lost. Which can lead to obvious problems that I hope you can see.

If you can't, then you are not as open minded as I hoped you are.

The second point is, even that flawed study admits it counts Iraqi's killed by Iraqi's....Can;t very well blame that on the U.S. military.

If you want to make policy discussions blaming the Bush administration since it was their decision that put the soldiers on the ground, fine. But this idiot was stating that the Iraqi deaths were caused by the U.S. military. an untrue statement on its face.

That last bit is more unclear than I would like. It should read:

"Blame the Bush Administration since it was their decision that put the soldiers on the ground that caused the unstable environment allowing Iraqi's to kill more of their own, fine."

"Can;t very well blame that on the U.S. military."

I wouldn't blame the American military but I would blame Paul Bremer, Rummy, Bush and Cheney for deciding to disband the Iraqi Army and police forces which created an instant insurgency. The handling of post invasion Iraq was a demonstration of what can be accomplished by incompetent and corrupt appointees who had absolutely no experience in running a country. The Heritage Foudation did much of the screening for hiring the people who ran the Iraq Reconstruction Agency and their primary consideration when reviewing the resumes was the applicant's position on abortion.

Like I said. Won't get any argument out of me. The war was fought with a worse plan than the Detroit Lions playbook.

But to say that the soldiers, airman, marines, and sailors in Iraq caused all of those casualties is disingenuous at BEST, and just trult stupid.

Only a vapid hater would make the assertion, and I am quite certain that clemens is both vapid and a hater of the military.

The second point is, even that flawed study admits it counts Iraqi's killed by Iraqi's....Can;t very well blame that on the U.S. military.



sad, really, really sad.

some people just dont get it

By unleashing the demon war, we gain responsibility for the violence that ensued

Our decisions to invade (without justification) caused the breakdown in soociety and security that has allowed the deaths of 10's if not 100's of thousands of iraqis


We are responsible.

truth, you are missing the point. I do blame "us"..but not the SOLDIERS.

The majority of those numbers of dead are Iraqi's killing their own. An environment created by the act of war, but to say that their death was caused by the grunts on the ground is truly stupid.

The vast majority were not killed by soldiers bullets, theu were killed by terrorist AK-47's, suicide bombs, mortars, and IED's.

Do you deny this?

ARMYVET

You are a filthy stinking racist turd. People like YOU are the problem.

You can argue about a vast variety of issues affecting the world today from a vast number of legit standpoints. But arguing that suggesting that ANYTHING is happening because "White racist" hold any sort of national authority is untrue, AND IS THE STATEMENT OF A RACIST.

The most senior official "White racist" the county has seen in DECADES was limited forcing folks to go to another county for marriage licenses. And he is history now (compare that to minority racism, such as "Whitie poisons us" Van Jones, The Wise Latina, Rev White, "Dumb Cop" Obama, Cynthia McKinney, etc, etc, etc, etc....)

Funny thing, the minority racist's main powerbase is from folks STILL IN THE GHETTO. Many minorities who have avoided/escaped the ghetto abandon them (damn those Uncle Toms and their common sense...)

Your racism will ensure your failure for as long as it contaminates you. It shows a COMPLETE lack of character.

Try this some time: JUDGE people by the CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER. Can't remember where I heard that...... probably from some white racist, right?

But I feel good today. Despite all the crap going on in the world today, people like YOU are dinosaurs. Its all down hill for your god damned filthy stinking race hussling, for the simple reason that the United States is made of pure win, and is in the process of REJECTING you, and everyone like you.

Rot in Hell.

No one told her her father IS a terrorist? Under YOUR flag. Under our laws.
Bombing people from a drone at 30000 ft, while sitting in Langly, tell me how that is different from a suicide bomber? You invaded his country to harm him and his fellow countrymen, without regard to anything but pure blood lust and greed wrapped in patriotism. Any blood will do. Invading a country under false cause, producing intentionally false information( a felony in this country, as well as a violation of ones' rights), killing tens upon tens of thousands, just to get 30 or 40 really bad guys(under our laws, which have authority only in our nation- read that document?). Or perhaps the fact that none of this has any thing to do with protecting my nation, my liberty, my freedom, but more about lining some dickheads pockets, or allow him to act as some fucking entitled god? Which then in turn decides he/she wants to fuck my country over because we dont kiss their asses enough? To the point of having millions of their fellow citizens on terrorist watch lists, actively encourageing other citizens to rat out their friends, family and neighbors? 1600+ new US citizens names added every day? Or that it does not seem to occur to any, that these same people are the ones responsible for fucking millions of their fellow citizens out of jobs, and are currently engaged in the biggest financial fraud in the history of humanity, and it comes from YOUR pocket?
All while you and I have to shell out out some $100k to employ this little girls daddy to go murder more people in some foreign country, to keep the game intact?


Right. I feel sorry for that little girl, but not her father.
A whole lot of sad for nothing but a crime.

#50 | Posted by USAF242 at 2009-11-06 09:04 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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This is true.

#51 | Posted by gitmboy at 2009-11-06 09:05 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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This is truly stupid.

You really think there a lot of folks in the military earning 100K a year? Please. Check out a pay scale once in a while.


And to say this war was "fought to line someones pockets." I would love to see a quote from anyone in power when the decision to go to war was made that stated somehting to the effect of "we need to invade iraq so we can all get rich."

You can't. That MAY be true, or it may not be.

No one knows what was inside Bush and Cheney's mind.

GITMBOY

I've been to the sand box. I did not personally pull any triggers in combat, but I sure as hell did all I could to make sure as many enemy as possible were KILLED. This was a very diliberate action on my part, and I KNEW my actions contributed DIRECTLY to the death of enemy combatants, and I performed my duties with vigor and INTENT TO KILL......

......just like every other soldier the world has EVER seen.

Knuckle dragging morons like you argue against ALL military action. Yet when some butchering psychotic is in power, you offer NOTHING for dealing with it other than "sanctions". Moron. By the standards you use, there has NEVER been a single legit offensive military action. You actually believe that if we all gather around a camp fire and sing, the thugs of the world will behave better. IDIOT.

IDIOTS like you also frequently do the "If you attack Saddam, you HAVE TO also attack Mugabe..." mental diarrhea. Its like giving to charity. There is plenty of trash in the world, and we picked the one that got our attention, AS WE SHOULD. Its called combining a GOOD DEED with national interest.

I remember a few years ago U.S. behavior in the Korean War was back in the news. Some drooling idiots like YOU were saying the U.S. had machine gunned a bunch of civilans and it all got covered up by the usual evil U.S. conspiracy.......

.....funny thing is, is that I happened to have a 1950 copy of Time Magazine I had read a few months before. Strange cover up when they have a 20 page spread in Time. Also, for so bizarre reason, it was clear in Time "WHY" it happened. (a minor detail that you probably don't want to know about...).....

.....it seems that the Commie North Koreans/Chinese were dressing as refugees, and even mixing with refugees, in order to get into positions to launch attacks. The orders a commander WAS QUOTED IN TIME as giving were to the effect of "Wave them off, then if they keep coming, shoot over their heads, and if they still keep coming, shoot into them".

Sometime in the 1500s/1600s, european armies started to become more professional. This, combined with western ethics, produced the most MORAL military philosophy the world has EVER seen. It peeked in the 1800s, but has been under assault by leftist since the 1900s. Although it has NEVER been perfectly practiced (like most ideals....), western militaries make serious effort to fight COMBATANTS and COMBATANT ASSETS. Terrorists don't merely hide among civilians (which is legit), they use civilian cover to make attacks, WHICH IS THE LARGEST CRIME OF THIS CENTURY.

KEY POINT:
Anything that forces soldiers to be seriously worried that the car driving up to them with civilians in it might contain a bomb and suicide attacker FORCES soldiers to treat that car and its occupants as LETHAL THREATS of the most serious order. "WHEN", not "IF" innocents get killed, it aint the soldiers who pulled the triggers who are to blame, its the damn terrorists who use civilian cover to launch their attacks (as opposed to ONLY using such cover when NOT attacking).

So it is fine when American soldiers use children as human shields.

American soldiers would give Iraqi children candy to keep them near them and point out IED locations.

TRUTHHURTS

American Soldiers have a long history of giving candy to kids.

It takes a MORON like you to try and dig up some motive other than just being the good and decent people they are.

Although if the kids have the decency to point out where they might have seen someone bury something recently, I doubt the soldier object. Heck, if I was one of the soldiers, I'd make a point to ask em. That must make me a war criminal.

Go fuck yourself.

I would LOVE to see ANY proof you have of U.S. soldiers using children/innocent bystanders as shields, hiding out in hospitals and using them as cover for forward operations to avoid being hit by enemies (as if they would bother regarding a hospital as a no zone for killing), or using Mosques for the same purpose.

Sorry, but you got a big bag of nothing there truthhurts.

SOme soldiers have acted poorly and counter to Geneva conventions and they are tried and punished when discovered. Too bad the terrorists don't care about the same thing.

I dont doubt that they are being all kind and generous to the children, no doubt.

But the fact of the matter is that using children as they have, by drawing them to themselves in areas of threat, results in the kids shielding the soldiers

See the article in October 2004 Las vegas Sun for an account of where soldiers gave kids candy to assist in locating IED's when a fire fight broke out.

did the soldiers intend for the kids to take bullets. no

but the irresponsibility of the act of interacting with children in a situation like that....


well war is the sum of all evil.

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ABH feel free to research the war crimes and the brutality performed by our military in iraq. You cannot fight a war without brutality.

that is why war SHOULD be a last resort to defend one's self. Otherwise, well you are an agressor and the brutality SHOULD weigh on your conscience.

TRUTHHURTS said:

"ABH feel free to research the war crimes and the brutality performed by our military in iraq. You cannot fight a war without brutality.

that is why war SHOULD be a last resort to defend one's self. Otherwise, well you are an agressor and the brutality SHOULD weigh on your conscience."

Almost entirely agreed.
I make one exception: I'd happily deploy to put a bullet into Mugabe's head, and the head of every thug that supports him. Ain't gonna happen, as the national interest is too weak, but I'd sure lose no sleep over killing the bastard and 1000s of his follower.

Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Nice link you posted truthhurts.

Unatributed versions of "atrocities" is always a successful way to make a point.

But look I am not saying there HAVEN'T been atrocities. Of course there have. Humans are ..well..human... and prone to problems. But that doesn't mean they are endemic to the system.

I think it pretty much accepted that the US has used Napalm, clusterbombs, depleted uranium in Iraq.

some of the links on that page are to videos that show a cavelier attitude of some of our military to iraqi deaths, etc.

War is brutality.

War is by its very nature atrocious.

That is why a nation based on some moral compass i.e. America. SHOULD use war as a FINAL OPTION and ONLY in self defense. PERIOD.

Great video--I remember the feeling when my Dad would return from Vietnam or sea tour duty.


Happy time for sure..

That is why a nation based on some moral compass i.e. America. SHOULD use war as a FINAL OPTION and ONLY in self defense. PERIOD.

So we agree that this video is heartwarming because this little girls dad (who does not decide when to start war) was back in country.

It's good to see him home with his family, where he can spend that $100K paycheck and plot the overthrow and massacre of the next arm-pit nation.

Does anyone detect my sarcasm? (base pay for an E-7 in 2008, $34,700+/-)

Hey ArmyVet, if you really are, it's Obama's war now. He could have brought them home months ago.

Are you serious? It took us 6 years to drag all that equipment over there and now after the death of 4,000 soldiers and 50,000 seriously injured for life, and you think Obama or any president is going to get our soldiers out in a couple of months. Dream on fool.

Does anyone detect my sarcasm? (base pay for an E-7 in 2008, $34,700+/-

Deduct his rent, food, medical and transportation costs and he still has $34,700, so your sarcasm is no no longer sarcasm is it?

What I have to wonder is why any man would abandon his family to join a volunteer army fighting an immoral war in the first place. Occupying a foreign country for corporate hegemony is hardly what you could call a patriotic duty.


Hey ArmyVet, if you really are, it's Obama's war now. He could have brought them home months ago.


Are you serious? It took us 6 years to drag all that equipment over there and now after the death of 4,000 soldiers and 50,000 seriously injured for life, and you think Obama or any president is going to get our soldiers out in a couple of months. Dream on fool.

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....So then Obama knowingly lied while on the campaign trail.


....So then Obama knowingly lied while on the campaign trail.


A 16 month plan as I recall.... but don't let facts get in the way.

OK so we'll be completely out of there in 6 months time from now.

Let's talk then.

Cheerio.

What I have to wonder is why any man would abandon his family to join a volunteer army fighting an immoral war in the first place. Occupying a foreign country for corporate hegemony is hardly what you could call a patriotic duty.

This man is an E-7, we invaded Iraq in 2003. Using basic logic and an actual understanding of the military you can come to the conclusion that this man joined before the immoral war. You should be happy that there are people willing to volunteer in the event that there is a "moral war" someday and you don't have to fight in it (I wouldn't want you to anyway).

Some messed up people on this thread.

Can't even enjoy a happy story.

Good for the family in the article.

Bring them home (from Afghanistan too).

Some messed up people on this thread.

Can't even enjoy a happy story.

It's not necessarily a happy story yet. We don't really know if he came back a good father or another causality with PTSD or worse yet, cancer from the weaponized uranium, burning of toxic waste and the immunizations he was given to protect him for the duration of his tour.

Of course you can paint it anyway you want to, but the odds are against him coming back a better man for the Army Adventure.

Of course you can paint it anyway you want to, but the odds are against him coming back a better man for the Army Adventure.

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Of course the small detail of him actually being in the Air Force is immaterial.

far more emotional homecoming.

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