Dionne: Tuesday's Lesson for Dems

Thursday, November 05, 2009

"There are two things happening. One is fear. The other is punishment. Voters fear for themselves and their families, and they want to punish anyone who got them into this condition." -- Sen. Frank Lautenberg's (D.-N.J.) on the meaning of Tuesday's elections, in E.J. Dionne's column today

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end the fed.

#1 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2009-11-05 07:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

whistling pass the graveyard.

#2 | Posted by semtex111 at 2009-11-05 07:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

The single biggest FAILURE of Bush II was his complete failure to stop the growth of the debt.

Obama is WORSE.

and people are taking note.

#3 | Posted by USAF242 at 2009-11-05 09:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama is WORSE.

Obama is doing the right thing at the right time.

Cutting government spending in the midst of a major recession is economic mass suicide.

The real test comes in how the President manages the economy during the upside of the business cycle.

Clinton left a surplus.

Bush transferred it to his business cohort in Iraq.

The GOP now needs to either lead, follow or get out of the way.

As they are somewhat deficient in the leadership category at the moment and can't be expected to follow, getting out of the way would seem to be the best thing they could do for the country.

#4 | Posted by silver_ironist at 2009-11-05 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

#4 | Posted by silver_ironist at 2009-11-05 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: Newsworthy

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-05 10:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Cutting government spending in the midst of a major recession is economic mass suicide."

Unfortunately that is why righties are often referred to as lemmings.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2009-11-05 10:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

SILVER IRONIST

I'm not talking about the stimulus. While major portions are HOTLY debatable, and the entire thoery of "spend our way out" is debatable, I understand enough economics to understand "priming the pump".

Its Obama-Care.

Obama-Care is NOT part of the recovery spending. Its just MASSIVE "ADDITIONAL" spending.

We need to dig out of the whole before we even THINK of something like that.

Add to that the whole Cap and trade, and it gets worse. Again, Cap and Trade is just spending, not recovery spending.

#7 | Posted by USAF242 at 2009-11-05 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

The GOP now needs to either lead, follow or get out of the way.
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Uh huh. Because Obama's perfect, and pretending otherwise just makes you a racist. He's black, don't you know?

"Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!" LMAO. You libtards with your "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" bumper stickers, all dutifully scraped off in late January.

O-BAH-MAH Slurp O-BAH-MAH HMMMMMMMMMMM

#8 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-05 10:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Cutting government spending in the midst of a major recession is economic mass suicide."

Unfortunately that is why righties are often referred to as lemmings.

#6 | Posted by danni
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There's the non-sequitur of the day. Your libtard pal is telling the righties to either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way. A small handful of us say, nah, don't think so. And WE'RE the lemmings?

O-BAH-MAH! O-BAH-MAH! Higher on the goose-step, libbies!!

#9 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-05 10:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

-And WE'RE the lemmings?

After following GW off the cliff?

You betcha'!

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-05 11:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

Cutting government spending in the midst of a major recession is economic mass suicide.

I heard Charlie Crist on CNN yesterday say that if it wasn't for the stimulus money Florida would have had to cut 20,000 teachers' jobs, but, hey, the stimulus isn't working.

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2009-11-05 11:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wonder if Charlie is shaking in his boots waiting for the Palin, Armey, Thompson Teabaggers to come after him?

After what they accomplished in NY, perhaps we could get another Dem Sen down here instead....

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-05 11:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

BTW, Crist referred to himself several times as "a pragmatic politian." I expect to hear that term bandied about a lot in the coming months.

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2009-11-05 11:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Warming May Push Lemmings Over the Cliff

www.matternetwork.com

#14 | Posted by danni at 2009-11-05 11:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

He also called himself "Charlie Crist", which always drives me crazy.
Did you notice Wolff and the chick were either constantly interupting or talking over eachother?

#15 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-11-05 11:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wonder if Charlie is shaking in his boots waiting for the Palin, Armey, Thompson Teabaggers to come after him?

After what they accomplished in NY, perhaps we could get another Dem Sen down here instead....

Corky,

Wolf asked him about that. Charlie somewhat sidestepped the question and pointed out that he had the backing of a number of Repbulicans, in and out of the state, and cited McCain as one example. What do you think of Crist? I kind of liked his temperment. He seemed pretty unflappable, down to earth and not given to demagoguery.

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2009-11-05 11:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

There's that "teabaggers" insult again. How curious.

Tell me Corky--do you think it's disgusting that a man performs oral sex on another man? Because if not, why do you use the term as an insult?

Admit it--you find it repulsive. You're no more open-minded than the stump-toothed Bible-thumper you pretend to be bigger than.

#17 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-05 11:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

Did you notice Wolff and the chick were either constantly interupting or talking over eachother?

I did notice right away the double-team interview. Usually Blitzer does them himself.

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2009-11-05 11:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, I personally originated calling Tea Party people Teabaggers.... I am awaiting a TM as we speak.

But I guess pretending to be insulted deflects the question of your GW lemming-hood, eh?

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-05 11:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

"There's that "teabaggers" insult again."

If it annoys even one of them it is entirely worth it. Teabaggers yesterday, today and tomorrow!

#20 | Posted by danni at 2009-11-05 11:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Gal

Yeah, Charlie is a moderate Repub as far as I can tell, meaning that he slightly regrets it when the first spending cuts he makes are for children's programs.

But at least he is not an anti-intellectual yahoo like the Teabagger set.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-05 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah, Charlie is a moderate Repub as far as I can tell, meaning that he slightly regrets it when the first spending cuts he makes are for children's programs.

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2009-11-05 11:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

I know you didn't. I'm just asking--do you find the idea of a man sucking on another man's nut sack to be disgusting behavior? Because if not, why do you use the term in a derogatory fashion?

A libbie would probably demur at calling another person a faggot, because that would imply that being homosexual is objectionable. But "teabagger" is a big word with you guys now. Ha ha. Very funny. And it's nice to see that, deep down, you might pretend to put on the pom poms for the gay marriage crowd, but you're just as sickened as the 'phobes be.

#23 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-05 11:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

-do you find the idea of a man sucking on another man's nut sack to be disgusting behavior?

I really don't care what you do in your spare time.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-05 11:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

-do you find the idea of a man sucking on another man's nut sack to be disgusting behavior?

I really don't care what you do in your spare time.

Wow. What a clever turnaround, cork. Look to see that one repeated about a thousand times on other topics.

OOPS! It already has been. Sorry

#25 | Posted by goatman at 2009-11-05 11:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think Olberman and the Air America crowd should just go back to calling their opponents "faggot", "homo", and "queerbate". Then follow up by saying, with a wink "Not that there's anything WRONG with that."

#26 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-05 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

Very funny. And it's nice to see that, deep down, you might pretend to put on the pom poms for the gay marriage crowd, but you're just as sickened as the 'phobes be.

#23 | Posted by rightisright
Only when it deep down at the back of their throat

#27 | Posted by freechoice at 2009-11-05 11:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

Every time I read about 'teabagging' I just associate it with liberals as every gay I have known (quite a few of them where I lived in the Keys) was a liberal dem.

#28 | Posted by MSgt at 2009-11-05 11:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

"every gay I have known (quite a few of them where I lived in the Keys) was a liberal dem."

Gee, I wonder why that would be???

#29 | Posted by danni at 2009-11-05 12:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

#28

Are we going to have to explain what "teabagging" is again?

#30 | Posted by Scrumplet at 2009-11-05 12:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

"There's that "teabaggers" insult again."

If it annoys even one of them it is entirely worth it. Teabaggers yesterday, today and tomorrow!

#20 | Posted by danni at 2009-11-05 11:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

I assume then that referring to lesbians as dykes, carpet munchers, muff divers or similar slurs is also acceptable in your book then? Or is only using sexual slurs against people who disagree with you ok?

#31 | Posted by ELCIDCE90 at 2009-11-05 12:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

As long as they wear these, I don't think you have a lot of whining room.

www.flickr.com

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2009-11-05 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

#31 | Posted by ELCIDCE90 at 2009-11-05 12:17 PM
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It's now safe for all of us to play that game again. Libbies have given us permission.

#33 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-05 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

"There's that "teabaggers" insult again."

If it annoys even one of them it is entirely worth it. Teabaggers yesterday, today and tomorrow!

#20 | Posted by danni at 2009-11-05 11:18 AM | Reply | Too stupid to understand that it's an insult because it lumps non gay protestor as gay. Yet she insits that everyone else not judge gays. Is'nt this like blacks using the n___ word but if we do it's racist?

#34 | Posted by WI_Hunter at 2009-11-05 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

WI HUNTER too stupid to get it that I couldn't care less.

#35 | Posted by danni at 2009-11-05 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

"It's now safe for all of us to play that game again. Libbies have given us permission."

As if you don't already????

#36 | Posted by danni at 2009-11-05 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

telling the righties to either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way. A small handful of us say, nah, don't think so.

Tire tracks up and down your back. I can see that you've had your fun.

- J. Hendrix

#37 | Posted by silver_ironist at 2009-11-05 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Goldman Sachs could use another round of bailouts, Silver. Hope you don't mind.

#38 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-05 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Note to anyone who thinks teabagging is gay (it's not):

"Teabagging" is the act of a male (or hermaphrodite) placing their testicle sac into the mouth of another person, male of female. Thus, using it to insult others is not also indirectly insulting gays. It may be indirectly insulting to those who enjoy sucking balls or getting their balls sucked, however.

#39 | Posted by Scrumplet at 2009-11-05 03:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thus, using it to insult others is not also indirectly insulting gays.
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Oh. Once I fought through the double negatives, I conclude that the term "carpet munchers" is not also indirectly insulting lesbians.

Good to know. Thanks.

#40 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-11-05 04:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nobody knows "teabagging" like SCRUMPLET and Jenene Garbagefellow.

#41 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-11-05 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

#6----- "lemmings" Does that make lefties syncophants?

#42 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-05 05:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

#7-- "teabagging"?-- it's amazing the education I'm acquiring on substantive matters---I don't get the preoccupation on posts about gays/lesbians. Maybe it's thrown out there all the time to get people worked up and involved-- I don't really think the posters are going to change anyone's mind concerning their perspectives on this perpetual droll subject matter.

#43 | Posted by matsop at 2009-11-05 05:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

#40 Rightisshite

"Not also" is a double negative? I suppose I didn't need to include "also" in my sentence and it may confuse some, but it's not a double negative.

#44 | Posted by Scrumplet at 2009-11-05 06:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Goldman Sachs could use another round of bailouts, Silver.

I don't think so.

It looks like they put the first one to good use...

www.latimes.com

#45 | Posted by silver_ironist at 2009-11-05 07:45 PM | Reply | Flag: