two repug parties?

ever see a dog chase it's own tail?

ross perot ring a bell?

lol

I wish the GOP would return to be the party of Eisenhower, full of pragmatic people who legislate in a civil manner rather than the shortest sentence in the English language, "NO!". "NO!" is not legislating.

#104 | POSTED BY TIMEX AT 2009-11-04 06:54 PM

IKE was my childhood hero.....and he saw the disgusting war profiteers and neocon coming, but didn't think Americans were stupid enough to fall for their BS..... Sadly, some still do, eh?

>>>
In most communities it is illegal to cry "fire" in a crowded assembly. Should it not be considered serious international misconduct to manufacture a general war scare in an effort to achieve local political aims?

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.

No one should ever sit in this office over 70 years old, and that I know.

Only Americans can hurt America.

We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.

When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it. After my experience, I have come to hate war.

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

Dwight David Eisenhower

Don't bother defending me against scum who would post disgusting anti American, anti war veterans things *like this timex, they are not worth the time.....no pun intended...lol, but i do deny denigrating any war vets for any reason.....it's not my m.o. and no one can show a post of mine that says differently, despite some lies to the contrary./

*
Woke pulls Max around by his dick if that didn't get blown off. It probably did though -- by woke
#140 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-11-04 11:11 AM | REPLY | FLAG: FLAG: (CHOOSE)
FUNNYNEWSWORTHYOFFENSIVEABUSIV
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I'm sure AmericanWokity was proud of John Kerry when he tracked down that retarded and wounded vietnamese child and shot him in the back.
Or the time he was in cambodia on Christmas Eve...
#141 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE AT 2009-11-04 11:17 AM |

What goes around comes around....eh?

As for you cripsy, never seen you disparage a war vet.....however, i realize how when someone points out that you are a regurgitating a rw talking point that is bs, you might get upset.....

That you believe msnbc is "liberal" shows the depth of being duped.

GE is one of America's oldest and most lucerative war profiteers.....and just because they have added Olbermann and Maddow, neither of whom are far left, but have the "audacity" to actually question the failed neocon policies and Shultz...a little further from the middle than the other two is laughable. (Shultz sounds too much like rushaddict for my taste) Those who say Tweety Matthews is a lib are ignoring that he is simply a political whore who had his entire head up lilaWol's butt.....

msnbc and tweety's right wing biases are well documented and debunked via actual transcripts on mediamatters.org

for anyone wishing to see the truth....

if you spew rw talking points use the same smear and fear techniques as the rwr talking heads and politicians do, don't be suprised if someone points it out to you.....

if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck

it just might be a duck........or a very confused goose, eh?

Is Woke denying Kerry got caught lying through his teeth abut being in Cambodia? What am I saying, of course Woke accepts the lie as truth, it is part of his blogging M O.

#144 | POSTED BY CRISPEE_OC AT 2009-11-04 08:34 PM

or maybe i'm wrong about you cripsy, maybe you don't really care if you regurgitate rw lies about decorated war vets, eh?

Today's lesson in GOP lies - or spin if you prefer.

In Kerry's Journal - and later in Pages 213 through 219 from Tour of Duty: John Kerry and the Vietnam War, by Douglas Brinkley (New York: HarperCollins, 2004) Kerry tells ending his first of 4 months in 'Nam on a Swift Boat by going toward Cambodia from a town called Sa Dec (55 miles south of the border) and 8 to 10 hours later noting a motar that night (3 minutes after the Truce began - as I recall the truce began at 10 pm usually) and - in the book and on the Senate floor in 86 - recalls sitting just over the border in Cambodia before heading back to Sa Dec. His commander had note that many of the heroic deeds done by Kerry were his acting against orders - and apparently this was one of those times since he was not authorized to go over the border into Cambodia. The next 3 months includes 2 full months under Nixon's presidency.

Now the GOP spin the above by saying that Kerry in the book replaces the over the border into Cambodia on Christmas Eve story with a with a report about a mortar attack that occurred on Christmas Eve 1968 "near the Cambodia border" in a town called Sa Dec, some fifty-five miles from the Cambodian border and that it was not under Nixon.

But that was not what Kerry said.

Will the mainstream media notice the GOP lies?

The point was that you believe the rw lies that msnbc is lefty...and whether you watch any of those folks, you still pick up those lies and smears somewhere......perhaps from the rw goofballs here.....??

You just fkn claimed Kerry was a liar, denigrating him with a rw talking point that he said he was in Cambodia, when in fact he said he was near the Cambodian border....and YOU keep the LIE going son....Where you there? Do you realize that a river in a jungle has no borders anyhow????

and i just DEBUNKED it again....

The fkn wash times is owned by rev moon and is an integral arm of rw propaganda son...

WHERE and when did i ever disparage ANY vet on here? Please repost it for me and i'll apologize. I find it difficult to pretend someone who denigrates war vets has any honor whether they served or not.....and i believe if you think about what these scum have posted, if you have any true heart, you'll begin to realize you are aligning yourself with scum.....

As i pointed out to boo...whatever...

Who else has more right to protest war, than those of us that fought them? Who else has more right to dissent?

Who?

This is the reason kerry is denigrated....because he and of thousands of vets just like him came back and spoke truth to power....

yet, you and others denigrate him for it.......saying, as lilaWol did, "i honor his service"...

bullshit alert eh?

ALL the smear liars were connected to the bush campaign, family and businesses and YOU continue the smears...too...

pathetic
wake the fk up and pay attention to what you post about decorated war vets......

realize that much of the bs you glean from others they gleaned from a msm complicit in sending our young vets to die for profits of a few.....

cripsy

were YOU or any of your lil buddy war vet denigrators ever in vn or cambodia? do ya know what's it like on a dark river all night long?
everything moving....?? do you have ANY experience to even come close to that?

the smear liars and (yourself) pick up on a statement, twist it and continue to smear kerry with that and many other bs statements, all debunked lies......yet, you continue

there is little hope or honor for those who smear war vets who fought for this country for political gain...

that you continue to side with the known liars, so adjudged about many many lies for many many years, shows you are their DUPE

the only other explanation is you don't really care about truth...i have trouble believing that about anyone, until they show me otherwise, which some have done on this very thread.....I never believe goat was of that stripe until this thread today when he joined in with 101 doing so.....

I'll also be waiting for any post i've ever made on here or anywhere else denigrating any war veteran .....i do despise anyone who denigrates war vets for political gain tho, regardless of who they are ....so if you can show me one of mine that does that, i'll be glad to apologize....

I already debunked your cambodian smear bullshit at post 147, but let me do better.....pay close attention to the LIE john o'neill was caught in at the end of this passage.....in the second of these two posts....

One chapter of SBVT's Unfit for Command questions Kerry's repeated statement that he was in Cambodia during Christmas, 1968.[39]
For example, on March 27, 1986, in arguing against United States aid to the Nicaraguan Contras, Kerry made a speech to the Senate that, among other things, touched on the Vietnam war:
" Mr. President, how quickly do we forget? How quickly do we forget? No one wanted to widen the war in Vietnam, We heard that, Let me remind you of what we said during that period of time.

[Kerry then set forth more than a dozen statements of American leaders with respect to the Vietnam war. He concluded the summary with the following:]

Finally, President Nixon, 1970. "In cooperation with the armed forces of South Vietnam, attacks are being launched this week to clear out major enemy sanctuaries on the Cambodian-Vietnam border."

Mr. President, I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia.

I have that memory which is seared-seared-in me, that says to me, before we send another generation into harm's way we have a responsibility in the U.S. Senate to go the last step, to make the best effort possible in order to avoid that kind of conflict. Mr. President, good intentions are not enough to keep us out of harm's way.
"
According to the Boston Globe biography of Kerry, he later recalled that after the Christmas Eve incident, he "began to develop a deep mistrust of U.S. government pronouncements."[61]
In a 1979 article in the Boston Herald, Kerry wrote of being shot at five miles over the Cambodian border on Christmas Eve 1968, stating,
" The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real. "
At the time, President Lyndon Johnson had denied overt military incursions across the Cambodian border, while covert MACV-SOG Special reconnaissance operations were active and ongoing. Richard Nixon was actually president-elect in December 1968, and he had not yet issued his own denial.

Kerry did not claim to have been sent on a covert mission to Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968. Rather, he believed at the time he had crossed the border while on a patrol near the border, during which the boats were ambushed and later came under friendly fire from South Vietnamese soldiers.[61][39]
No official documentation of any accidental or other incursion by either of Kerry's boats has been discovered. In addition, none of Kerry's crewmates have confirmed ever being sent to Cambodia. One of Kerry's crewmen, SBVT member Steven Gardner,[62] asserted that it was physically impossible to cross the Cambodian border, as it was blocked and patrolled by PBRs (a type of patrol boat);[63] however, Kerry's boat was evidently patrolling with PBRs during the mission in question.[64] Some crewmembers have, moreover, stated that they may at some point have entered Cambodia without knowing it. James Wasser, who was on PCF-44 on that December mission, while saying that he believed they were "very, very close" to Cambodia, did not recall actually crossing over; he also stated that it was very hard to tell their exact position in the border area. Kerry's own journal entry on this, written the night of the mission, does not specifically say they entered Cambodia. However, it does state that PCF-44 was somewhere "toward Cambodia" to provide cover for two smaller patrol boats, and in sarcasm, that he considered messaging Christmas greetings to his commanders "from the most inland Market Time unit" and that a court martial for the incident "would make sense"[65] In addition, George Elliott noted in Kerry's fitness report that he had been in an ambush during the 24 hour Christmas truce, which began on Christmas Eve.[66]
Michael Meehan, a spokesman for the Kerry campaign, responded to SBVT's charges with a statement that Kerry was referring to a period when Nixon had been president-elect and before he was inaugurated. Meehan went on to state that Kerry had been "deep in enemy waters" between Vietnam and Cambodia and that his boat came under fire at the Cambodian border. Meehan also said that Kerry did covertly cross over into Cambodia to drop off special operations forces on a later occasion, but that there was no paperwork for such missions and he could not supply dates.[67]
Based on examination of Kerry's journals and logbook, historian Douglas Brinkley placed the covert missions soon after Christmas. In an interview with the London Daily Telegraph, Brinkley stated that Kerry had gone into Cambodian waters three or four times in January and February 1969 on clandestine missions, dropping off U.S. Seals, Green Berets, and CIA operatives. Brinkley added:
" He was a ferry master, a drop-off guy, but it was dangerous as hell. Kerry carries a hat he was given by one CIA operative. In a part of his journals which I didn't use he writes about discussions with CIA guys he was dropping off.[68][69] "

In an interview with Tim Russert on "Meet the Press," Kerry corrected his 1979 statement about being "five miles across the border" on Christmas Eve, but reiterated that he was on a patrol at the border at that date and had been sent on a covert mission at a later date.[70]

In the book, O'Neill argued that a Swift boat commander would have been "seriously disciplined or court-martialed" for crossing the Cambodian border.

goatman cannot read or comprehend anything that interferes with his set beliefs in a failed political ideology....

it's just that simple......minded

I repeat, I have NEVER denigrated any war veteran for political purposes, questioned their service or otherwise, the right has continuallly done so.....smearing kerry's service and decorations, saying cleland blew his own legs off....etc....

I have NEVER done anything like that.....

Anyone wants to show me any posts of mine that prove otherwise....I will be glad to apologize.....

But i can find several posts from reputed vets who have done exactly that on this very thread.....

and they claim Kerry and the winter soldiers are liars......

yet, I've already shown one of the lies o'neill told.....saying if kerry was in cambodia he'd of been disciplined, yet he turns around in an interview with nixon saying he, himself had been their on a swift boat....

these people like the smear liars and john o'neill are political operatives and are LIARS who USE war vets for political gain and smear those who try to stop their lies and unnecessary wars....

Think the torture at abu or the willy pete at falluja was isolated incidents? think me lai was an isolated instance? Think again.
These things happened and continue to because when vets return and speak the truth, they are smeared.....

MR. KERRY:
Now, when we talk about something like war crimes, we're not throwing this term out lightly. The Hague Convention, the Geneva Conventions, history has laid down certain laws of warfare. Hague Convention, I believe, Article Four, states that you are not allowed to bombard uninhabited villages or villages that are not occupied by defendants. We have done that constantly in Vietnam.

MR. O'NEILL: [Unintelligible] John. Can you tell me about any war crimes that occurred in that unit, Coastal Division 11? And a second question: Why didn't you attempt to get out of the unit or submit a request when you were there if you saw anything that shocked a normal man?

MR. KERRY: We - Well, I'll come back to the question.

MR. O'NEILL: I'd like you to answer that question, if you would. You obviously are quite good on the polished rhetoric, but I did serve in the same place you did, and not for four months but for 18 months, and I never saw anything, and I'd like you to tell me about the war crimes you saw committed there, and also why you didn't do something about them, although [unintelligible].

MR. KERRY: Did you serve in a free fire zone?

MR. O'NEILL: I certainly did serve in a free fire zone.

MR. KERRY: [Reading] "Free fire zone, in which we kill anything that moves - man, woman or child. This practice suspends the distinction between combatant and non-combatant and contravenes Geneva Convention Article 3.1."

MR. O'NEILL: Where is that from, John?

MR. KERRY: Geneva Conventions. You've heard about the Geneva Conventions.

read the entire interview if you wish...

from kerry o'neill debate on dick cavett show....

Lisa,

Did you ever figure out if you are a Protestant or not?

Just curious.

MR. O'NEILL: I'd like you to answer that question, if you would. You obviously are quite good on the polished rhetoric, but I did serve in the same place you did, and not for four months but for 18 months, and I never saw anything, and I'd like you to tell me about the war crimes you saw committed there, and also why you didn't do something about them, although [unintelligible].
#196 | POSTED BY CRISPEE_OC AT 2009-11-04 10:59 PM

Why did you stop posting there, right before Kerry PROVED O'Neill was a hypocrite and LIAR?

MR. KERRY: Did you serve in a free fire zone?

MR. O'NEILL: I certainly did serve in a free fire zone.

MR. KERRY: [Reading] "Free fire zone, in which we kill anything that moves - man, woman or child. This practice suspends the distinction between combatant and non-combatant and contravenes Geneva Convention Article 3.1."

MR. O'NEILL: Where is that from, John?
MR. KERRY: Geneva Conventions. You've heard about the Geneva Conventions.

Apparently there are NO repugs who know wtf the Geneva Conventions are, eh? And O'Neill admits he engaged in FREE FIRE ZONES, prohibited by GC, which are WAR CRIMES...

Here is another example of O'Neill being caught in a LIE, which i posted earlier on this very thread.

>>
In the book, O'Neill argued that a Swift boat commander would have been "seriously disciplined or court-martialed" for crossing the Cambodian border.
>>
Critics point out the inconsistency between this description and O'Neill's own claims documented in a conversation with President Nixon in 1971:
" O'Neill: I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the water.
Nixon : In a Swift boat?
O'Neill: Yes, sir.[71]

Do you always just IGNORE the truth and facts, even when posted right in front of your eyes, cripsy?

Perhaps you need more?

>> I am writing to inform you of possible illegal campaign contributions given to Republican candidates by the law firm Clements O'Neill, Pierce, Wilson & Fulkerson. On the August 17th edition of Special Report with Brit Hume, one of the law firm's partners, John E. O'Neill, was asked about more than $14,000 the Center for Responsive Politics documented him giving to Republican candidates. O'Neill responded that "about half of them were mine" and later said "I simply didn't give them."

On the same show, John O'Neill said his law partner Edward J. O'Neill probably gave those donations. It simply defies belief that seven different people on seven different occasions could have mistakenly transcribed the name "Edward J. O'Neill" as the exact name of one of his law partners. Whoever gave this money would have had to have done so under the name "John E. O'Neill". As I understand it, donating money using someone else's identity is a clear violation of federal election law.

Poor Lisa,

She's unaware that Christians who aren't Catholics are Protestants

and

believes abortions are simply elective procedures like facelifts...

These are her own statements.....

and

joins forces with these kinds of people to smear me, because I pointed out her idiocy.....

Woke pulls Max around by his dick if that didn't get blown off. It probably did though -- by woke
#140 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-11-04 11:11 AM

then claims I've smeared her service record, when I didn't know she was a vet

and

then tries to cover it all up with a juvenile joke about cows and milk.......

Do you know the little baby Jesus doesn't like it when you lie, Lisa?

Apparently so spud,

That's been my experience with him and several others here on DR.

God knows I gave them a chance to no longer be the disengenuous posters they are, trying not to lump them in with the likes of the pathetic 101, but no longer. He's clearly made his choice....not only to be a disengenuous troll, but someone who denigrates the war service of decorated veterans who gave all for their country.

>>

Woke pulls Max around by his dick if that didn't get blown off. It probably did though -- by woke
#140 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-11-04 11:11 AM | REPLY | FLAG: FLAG: (CHOOSE)
FUNNYNEWSWORTHYOFFENSIVEABUSIV
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I'm sure AmericanWokity was proud of John Kerry when he tracked down that retarded and wounded vietnamese child and shot him in the back.
Or the time he was in cambodia on Christmas Eve...
#141 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE AT 2009-11-04 11:17 AM |

As I said, a person is known by the company they keep.

cherryboy invokes the name of Max Cleland again,.....who would kick his fkn ass, even with no legs and one arm in a heartbeat if he ever read cherry's hateful LIES about him....".saying he blew his own legs off" and worse BS.

My personal friends are those who stood up and served this country in war zones.

Something you know NOTHING about sonnyboy.

Now, run along and cry to your daddy RCade and tell him to suspend my account as you did before snitchboy.....

This is all you need to know about 2008ATL

He is a multiple screename, paid political prostitute troll who is DOS (deleted on sight) at newshounds.us....and that is easily verifiable...

and believes 2500 war dead in iraqnam are "CHUMP CHANGE"

I could post dozens of woke posts where he smears other vets simply because they do not share his extreme left wing views

#246 | POSTED BY 2008ATL AT 2009-11-05 10:51 AM

And yet, you post NONE....

nuff said

Intesting that 08 claims i am banned at newshounds, yet, I post their regularly still, him, not so much....

247

That's right, i got crosswise with ONE moderator there, but she reinstated me because of the many other posters and mods who supported me.

And what did i get crossways about? The heavy handed MODERATION that was installed there. I was actually standing up for allowing fks like 2008 to spew their venom unmoderated, as I don't believe in deleting the posts that insure they are seen for what they truly are....politics over honor and country....

need examples?

Do you know what they nicknamed Cleland when they laid him at the front door?
Mat.

continued above

#235 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2009-11-05 09:18 AM

Woke pulls Max around by his dick if that didn't get blown off. It probably did though -- by woke
#140 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-11-04 11:11 AM

I'm sure AmericanWokity was proud of John Kerry when he tracked down that retarded and wounded vietnamese child and shot him in the back.
#141 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE AT 2009-11-04 11:17 AM |

2500 would be chump change if Saddam obtained WMD's and used them on either Israel or the U.S.Another lesson from Ranger Bob.
Posted by: Donny Brasco at May 28, 2006 05:42 PM aka 2008

btw, his other claim to fame is namecalling people "sport", "champ" and "dullard".

Anyone know anyone who speaks like that in real life?

Maybe karl rove, eh?

What elicited that interchange ? The link given DID list a charity event cripsy. Did you not follow that or just omit it for the chance to continue denigrating and lying about me? Is that why you didn't include the LINK and the time stamps on my posts, so you could use them to LIE?

Were the links paid for by those vets? Was the time paid for or were those people helping volunteers? Was it charity if not? THINK

Furthermore, the POINT, in case you missed it was asking WHY our vets have to rely on charity and our govt doesn't fully support their recoveries.

But don't let facts stop you....

apology?

you'll get nothing but this from me .....and i'll be sending your hateful denigration to rcade and cleland sonnyboy....

Woke pulls Max around by his dick if that didn't get blown off. It probably did though -- by woke
#140 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-11-04 11:11 AM

For those who actually value war veterans and their service and would like to know more about Max Cleland

I can't help but to think you are really some trailer trash bitch who is married to an abusive husband who blackens your eyes every night. You just come here in the day when he is doing the gargage routes, or at night when he is off at the bar with his girlfriends because you love the abuse and you need to get it from somewhere when hubby is gone.
How close am I to the truth?

#277 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-11-05 12:46 PM

I'm sure YOU know all about it genius, at least, from your post, it sounds as if you do. How long did you say it's been since you were married? 30 years?

Enjoy your war vet denigrating circle jerk with 101 and jeff and the other pos rwrs who post here on DR.

How the fk do you know where Kerry was on xmas 68 cherryboy? If you were alive, you were most likely crapping yourself and sucking a binkie.....

Yeah, no swift boats EVER went into Cambodia....

In the book, O'Neill argued that a Swift boat commander would have been "seriously disciplined or court-martialed" for crossing the Cambodian border.
>>
Critics point out the inconsistency between this description and O'Neill's own claims documented in a conversation with President Nixon in 1971:

" O'Neill: I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the water.
Nixon : In a Swift boat?
O'Neill: Yes, sir.[71]

Debunked yet again...eh?

No, he's a LIAR that denigrated Kerry repeatedly for political ideology, like yourself.....I figured that is who you got your lying misinformation from.....NO?

Poor goatboy cannot even read and comprehend.....

This lie, among others, that i just posted genius:

In the book, O'Neill argued that a Swift boat commander would have been "seriously disciplined or court-martialed" for crossing the Cambodian border.

Yet, he DEBUNKED his own LIE here:
>>
Critics point out the inconsistency between this description and O'Neill's own claims documented in a conversation with President Nixon in 1971:
" O'Neill: I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the water.
Nixon : In a Swift boat?
O'Neill: Yes, sir.[71]

Take a break trollboy....you've lost your mind apparently.

Ah, drunk again, that explains it.

Is that why wifey left you too?

you are probably too drunk to notice, but another one of your repug heroes just plea bargained a guilty plea for three fed cases.

one of them for lying to the wh.

oh, yeah, he was a former nyc police commish who your other hero, lilaWol was going to appoint our homeland security czar.....

i'll bet he would have been as good a "great job there" brownie was as FEMA czar....eh?

how do you tell a repug is lying?

their lips are moving eh?

wonder what it'll be like for a former police commish to do 2 years in prison?

hey, i'll bet they have special prisons just for all the lying repugs....and maybe some of the boy stalkers like too....

it'll be a nice fit, eh?

Yeah, who guarded that border?

Didn't they work in close conjunction with the swifties?

think they would have taken orders from the usa?

hello?

ok, i'll write that down with the other LIES you have told about war vets swabby....

you voted for Thos Jefferson?

they guy who said:

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

Yet, you denigrate John Kerry and other war vets for returning to protest and speak truth to power about the war they fought?

yeah, ok.

no need to ever answer any of your inane gotcha questions. just stick around long enough and you'll debunk yourself like you and your buddies always do....

probably when you sober up and cannot remember which lies you told when you were drunk, eh?

you revere jefferson above lilaWol, whom you DID vote for....??

seems a bit opposite in ideology doesn't it?

do you revere jefferson when you are drunk or sober?

did you vote for lilaWol when you were drunk or sober?

that might explain it, eh?

just like you never denigrate war vets, eh?

Woke pulls Max around by his dick if that didn't get blown off. It probably did though -- by woke
#140 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-11-04 11:11 AM

now, were you drunk or sober when you posted that one?

In case you ever want to do some reading when you are sober.....

Strong at the Broken Places (Hardcover)
~ Max Cleland
www.amazon.com

Going for the Max!: 12 Principles for Living Life to the Fullest
by Max Cleland
search.barnesandnoble.com

and his newest:

Heart of a Patriot: How I Found the Courage to Survive Vietnam, Walter Reed and Karl Rove
blog.al.com

Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm not a cleland fan, so I'll pass

#312 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2009-11-05 01:53 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I see. You don't care much for war vets do you>?

In Cleland's case, is it because he's a triple amputee..??

Or because he's a dem?

Do tell.

So jest.....

You flew over the border so much that you KNOW for a fact that no swifties ever entered Cambodia by river eh?

And you know this HOW? Were you ever on the ground or a river in country?

Sure buddy.

Ever fly over the Quan Loi Trail?

Cu Chi?

Tay Nihn?

Marketime eh?

You weren't part of that friendly fire incident in 66 were you?

Interesting that you began in 58, yet Marketime began in 65...

btw

"I honor your service"

unless you denigrate other war veteran's service

then, it's on....

Got any posts from Robert to prove what you are saying 2008?

i have already posted your own posts proving you are nothing but a paid political prostitue rw troll that uses several screenames to divert and denigrate others on lib blogs....

Robert and I got crossways for the same reason as here. He didn't like Kerry because he swallowed all the smear liar bullshit that's repeatedly been debunked.

interesting how those lies are still being spread by people like yourself who voted an actual aWol deserter into office and make no such denigrations over the fact that all files from 72-73 were purged by his daddy as potus and none can be found....

the bottom line is this my friend

denigrating a war vet, because they returned and used the very freedoms of dissent they fought for is totally and completely non sensical, except for those who place POLITICS above honor and country...

and that'd be you...

uh, mind if i ask?

how many screenames do you use on DR?

Robert and I are all good.

We got sideways for the same reason as here, as i said, over Kerry's smearing by rw political operatives.

Those who do not see the horrors of war and how ,not only the phyical damage, but the very thread of society is ripped asunder, with children becoming thieves and prostitutes and eating garbage to survive have no idea and Robert never went off base in Cam Ran Bay or so he said.
(Cam Ran Bay being on the oceanshore and an r& r center as well as hospital)

However, we began seeing eye to eye when i let him know my father was a pharmacist's mate in WWII and my two half brothers also were in the Navy as medical nco's (one retired from the navy, both paramedics in fla, one retired from that).....and that i honored his and their service....

That suffice buddy?

2008

how many screenames do you use on DR?

#323 | POSTED BY WOKE AT 2009-11-05 02:12 PM

You don't have to tell us who they are, but let us know how many?

2-3 more?

329

As usual, assumes facts not in evidence from 5 years ago officer....

Did you ever do that math assignment about how much war profiteering money you made PER US VET DEATH?

Those you referred to as "CHUMP CHANGE"

Sorry just have to repost this one....

President Bush on Friday nominated Bernard Kerik to run the Homeland Security Department during his second term, calling the former New York police commissioner "one of the most accomplished and effective leaders of law enforcement in America."

"In every position he has demonstrated a deep commitment to justice, a heart for the innocent and a record of great success," Bush said in the Roosevelt Room of the White House, with Kerik at his side. "I'm grateful he's agreed to bring his lifetime of security experience and skill to one of the most important positions in the federal government."

I expect goat to come along any minute and accuse me of being "off-topic"
Then 101 will make a show claiming absolute victory and a fantasized domination.
Then rightisright will chime in condemning us all for obsessing over what Mr. "Fifty Years to Judge" said just five short years ago.
Then they all will degenerate into a juvenile name calling mass of foamy mouthed nonsense
Damn, Life is Good!

#8 | POSTED BY REDNECKVILLE AT 2009-11-05 01:50 PM

Good call eh?

Another lying repug bites the dust eh?

Tell us 2008, did you ever LIe when you were a "ranger" and manufacture evidence or some such shit?

You never did tell us why you stopped being a cop.

Or have those files been expunged?

I have no knowledge now or ever before about your wife.

if it's true, you have my condolences

if it's not, i'll just file it along all the other inane shit you post,,..k?

what? a topic? ok

LOL

Republicans drove their nominee out of the race by supporting Doug Hoffman.
Doug Hoffman is a lifelong Republican, according to Steve Forbes in his endorsement.
The fact that Hoffman ran on another party line, because he didn't get chosen by the local Republicans to run in this special election, doesn't mean he isn't a Republican candidate.
Whether you call him a Republican or not doesn't matter bupkiss. The seat was a safe Republican seat, and the actions taken by Republicans handed it over to Democrats.

#67 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2009-11-04 05:49 PM

I have never seen any posts about your wife dying of cancer before today goat....

for you to say so is apparently just more of the same lies and smears you've stalked me with since i began posting here....

i could have had you suspended and banned, but have never flagged ANY of your posts genius....

but your bs smears of cleland is a new low for even you, far as i can tell......

i do recall having a discussion with you about how you must love me when you first began stalking me, saying that "hate is not the opposite of love, indifference is" and you denied that saying that hate was the opposite

yet a few days ago you stated you hadn't talked to your wife in 30 years, (but didn't mention then that she died) and at that point i said that indifference was indeed the opposite of love.....

remember that?

why would you not have mentioned your wife's passing at any of those other times, but claim it now and that i already knew.

just to further your smears of me, eh?

you are about as pathetic and disgusting as your circle jerk buddy 101, wife or not, eh?

have a nice day

Sorry about your wife for the second time, but I NEVER knew about it until today.

Hope you recover soon.

God bless.

newshounds.us....

there you can see actual, genuine debate from people of all political stripes......including on the forum.....
with no rw trolls namecalling, lying, smearing, insulting, misinforming, setting people up, or otherwise diverting threads...

hopefully, rcade will take notice of what has been done there to provide a safe haven for those who prefer to civilly debate issues without the scum of the earth interfering...

and anyone wanting to verify anything i've said about 2008, should to go there, register on the forum and ask any of the long time regulars....there are also forum threads documenting many rw troll inanities, including 2008's, as well as a sockpuppet thread noting his and other rw trolls using multiple screenames to divert honest discussion into the kinds of flame wars seen daily here on DR
or go to rangerbobfriends.blogspot.com a blog originally set up to memorialize 2008 and his lies

Tell you what goat,

Why don't you write to rcade and see if there is someway for you to bring up the posts you claim you made to me before today that your wife died of cancer.

if there is an archive on DR, it should be easy enough to do...

and actually, if true, i'd think you'd be doing it to prove your point, eh?

i'll check back sometime soon to see those alleged posts and the context of myself responding/acknowledging seeing them...

May God Bless and keep you and all these other poor deluded rw souls....who post war vet denigration on DR.