Wisgod is a punk that deserves what he got and more. There was no reason for him to post the putrid posts that got him busted. It shows he has a sick mind, and so do those who support such scum.

BoOb I have seen much much worse, have you been huffing the smoke stacks again...

#170 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2009-11-05 11:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wisgod attacked a person who never said a word to him, and made it a personal attack on one of the few people who have acheived some credibility for their words. More than Wisgod ever did. She had the courage to use her name, and she attempted to pass along some coherent thoughts whcih would elevate the level of discourse on the DR.

I understand your support of Wisgod since you seem to think personal attacks are the way to talk to another person. You seem to think the object on the moon is fiction---yet you have no explanation for it. Do you think calling me names and mocking it will make it disappear? It must frighten you.

1) I understand your support of Wisgod since you seem to think personal attacks are the way to talk to another person.

I am only saying I have seen much much worse and it did not result in a suspension...

You have not seen much worse towards a person who respectully made a post--a person who has made a name for themselves nationally---a person who attacked no one.

2) You seem to think the object on the moon is fiction---yet you have no explanation for it.

According to the video it is thousands of feet tall, yes I have trouble believing that but encourage you...

The height was never a major consideration, but from a distance of 70 miles, it is pretty big. In addition, they discuss they height and estimate later in the clip as several hundred feet, and the man who said it was several thousand feet tall, said he was trying to get official estimates on its height. If you had watched more than 2:15 of the clip, you would have heard the different estimations. What about the discharge? I guess you have no problem with that. Do you have an explanation, or is mocking it your only response.

3) Do you think calling me names and mocking it will make it disappear? It must frighten you.

Everyone calls you "BoOb" so what,

Everyone does not call me BoOb. Only those who can't use logic to prove their point use that name when addressing me.

now back to Wisgod do you think people would refrain from Fat Jokes if this would have been RUCH LIMBAUGH...

Yes--I think people would have refrained from using fat jokes if it had been Rush Limbaugh addressing the DR in a respectful manner. I think people would have welcomed the discussion and treated him with respect, and rebutted his points with facts and logic.

#173 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2009-11-05 12:40 PM | Reply | Flag

" You seem to think the object on the moon is fiction---yet you have no explanation for it."

Well, I do.
www.badastronomy.com

#175 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-11-05 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag

LOL---you mean the old magic appearing, moving, fading, and disappearing smudge on a still picture in less than 1/6th second? How did they explain the smudge suddenly got on the still picture? How did they explain the smudge changing shape on the still picture? How did they explain the smudge disappearing from the still picture? How did they explain the smudge suddenly disappearing from the still picture? How did they explain the smudge doing all this from a still picture in 1/6th second?

Ah yes---the scientific explanation of "something happened". THAT'S your "explanation"? Again, let me say LOL!

Since the original image is clearly a still photograph, there cannot be movement in it. Since the L.E.M.U.R./ESC case for a puff of smoke is based on movement, their conclusion must be incorrect.

Since there is movement in it, it isn't a still picture, so the bad astronomy conclusion it is a still picture is incorect. The film shot from the sixteen milimeter camera on board Apollo 8. The sequence only lasts 4 frames. I would say that the still picture they posted had been altered since the discovery. I bought the DVD of To the Moon, just to watch for the sequence. I was a theater projectionist for 12 years. I know how film works. Even knowing it is there, and having seen it before, it is very easy to miss the action.

Well Bob there you have it, and I still think RUSH LIMBAUGH would be the Butt of a myriad of Fat Jokes. I am also sure he could take it, and I would have to laugh if they were truly funny...

I think Rush Limbaugh is the scum of the Earth--a true traitor to America--a worse enemy of freedom than Osama bin Laden, and though I have no problem with any fat jokes about him, or name calling in his name, I still wouldn't disrespect him if he came on the DR and posted in a respectful manner. Who would you call names and make fun of if they came on the DR and spoke in a respectful way? Pelosi? Palin? Obama? I think none---it takes a very small mind to attack someone personally with that kind of stature, even on an anonymous blog like the DR. Someone like Wisgod. No one else attacked her like he did---why do you think that was?

#179 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2009-11-05 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

One rumor floating around the DR has Bob pegged as Rcade screwing around...

#180 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2009-11-05 03:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

I have seen that posted before. I am honored that some think I could be rcade. I think rcade is one of the most intelligent people on the planet. That isn't a suck up---I've had my differences with rcade and been kicked off myself for a couple of weeks--unjustly I might add since I was just defending what someone else said, and I don't even like the other person I was defending very much.

I have also seen people say they think I am WOKE--again, of the posts I have seen from him, I am honored that they think I could be him. Nope--I'm just Buffalo Bob, smokestacks and all. If someone comes up with an explanation for the smokestack other than the Bad Astronomy site which has been cited many times BTW, I would be glad to listen and quite capapble---even grateful for the explanation. SOMETHING HAPPENED is not an explanation. Whenever someone points to the Bad Astrnomy link, they always post just the link to the page--never copy and paste any explanation. That's either because they haven't read the whole link, or they realize that SOMETHING HAPPENED is not an explanation---neither is it a still picture.

It's a video of a still picture, Bob. Sorry.

#184 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-11-05 05:01 PM | Reply | Flag

Then answer the questions. How did they explain the smudge suddenly got on the still picture? How did they explain the smudge changing shape on the still picture? How did they explain the smudge fading from the still picture? How did they explain the smudge suddenly disappearing from the still picture? How did they explain the smudge doing all this from a still picture in 1/6th second?

Tell me how that was done, and you'll be a hero of the DR, and I'll never post about the Smokestack on the Moon again without acknowledging your greatness. SOMETHING HAPPENED, doesn't cut it.

It's bullshit Bob it really is.

Larry

#186 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-11-05 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's Bullshit doesn't cut it either Larry. The same questions apply to you in the #185 post. I am never the first one to bring up the Smokestack either---you fail to take that into consideration. If other people wouldn't bring it up, it would never be brought up.

Again, start harping on rcade to get those killfiles going like some of us are doing---I'm tired of hearing you whining.

You didn't even read the link, Bob.

Of course I read the link--several times---did you? Then answer the questions if you found the answers there.

How did they explain the smudge suddenly got on the still picture? How did they explain the smudge changing shape on the still picture? How did they explain the smudge fading from the still picture? How did they explain the smudge suddenly disappearing from the still picture? How did they explain the smudge doing all this from a still picture in 1/6th second?

Answer: They had no explanation other than SOMETHING HAPPENED.

You're delusional. But, I will put up a thousand bucks nothing happens on Dec. 21, 2012 a la "aliens revealing themselves". Or whatever date it's supposed to be.

As has been said, I would need odds on such a long shot happening---there were other scenarios involved also. On just the aliens scenario, I am accepting the very lenient odds of 100-1. Your $1000 against my $10. The maximum I am accepting is $5000-$50 How sure are you?

#188 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-11-05 05:30 PM | Reply | Flag

But you are the first one here who called it a smokestack.

Actually, the people in the link to youtube call it a smokestack---it has to be called something---what would you call it?

And you are the first one to respond with pages upon pages of insane shit anytime someone references your conspiracy nonsense.

What "conspiracy nonsense" do you see in the Smokestack? What do you call "insane shit" and why? Can you explain yuourself, or is yours just another mindless personal attack?

Don't pretend as though these discussions would occur in your absence. You are the problem.

The problem is people who can't discuss things rationally and bring up the Smokestack as a personal attack, then can't back their words. People like you.

#190 | Posted by JOE at 2009-11-05 05:46 PM | Reply | Flag

#191 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-11-05 05:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Proving second line of #190, time and time again

#193 | Posted by JOE at 2009-11-05 06:05 PM | Reply | Flag Doesn't answer the question of second line of #190 time and time again

How about five bucks straight up?

I'll take that bet--IF---I can have the side that says aliens WON'T reveal themselves on that date. It is very long odds, and 100-1 is very lenient. As was asked--How sure are you? ANSWER: Not very.

And, if you'd read it, you know why the "smudge" gets there. It's not on the picture. It's on the lens of the camera filming the picture.

If you had read the link closely you would see that they don't claim it is on the lens at all. You seem to have missed the word "Perhaps".

Perhaps it was on the camera used to make the zoomed sequence, or something else that happened during production.

The same questions would still apply to the smudge being on the lens.

How did they explain the smudge suddenly got on the lens? How did they explain the smudge changing shape on the lens? How did they explain the smudge fading from the lens? How did they explain the smudge suddenly disappearing from the lens? How did they explain the smudge doing all this from the lens in 1/6th second?

Answer: They had no explanation other than SOMETHING HAPPENED.

Like a bug on a gas station camera.

You claim to know what was on that camera? I never made any such claim. I have always said I don't know what it was. If you think it was a bug--prove it---duplicate the effect. I have seen others try to duplicate the effect with bugs on a camera lens, but you could always see the legs and the antenna of the bugs. The effect wasn't duplicates at all. But since YOU know what it was--prove it--duplicate the effect.

But, you believe in whatever fairy dust nonsense makes you sleep better, or not at all. Art Bell made a ton of money off of suckers like you.

I've never heard or watched an art Bell show. I've never claimed to know everything, like you seem so sure that you know what everything is and isn't. Yet you have no explanation--only personal attacks and ridicule for things you don't understand. Why can't you just say--"I don't know"? It's easy. I don't know what the smokestack on the moon is, and I don't know what the blue thing at the gas station is. Is that so hard for you?

#192 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-11-05 05:58 PM | Reply | Flag

Chickn shit.

#199 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-11-05 07:28 PM | Reply | Flag

Not at all---I just want a fair bet. You propose a stupid bet. Even money on a bet that aliens will reveal themselves on a certain time frame deserves some odds. You must not have much confidence in your beliefs that aliens won't reveal themselves if you can't give odds. I would say the chickenshit is yourself.

That's not the bet. I bet nothing will happen on Dec.21 ,2012. No end of the world, no UFO's landing on the White House lawn, nothing like that. That's because I believe there are no lunar smokestacks; that several Apollo missions went to the moon, landed, and returned; that there are no aliens piloting UFO's spying on us and mutliating cattle. No Bigfeet, no Loch Ness Monsters. I believe that all the physical laws of the universe have NOT been figured out, we don't know what happens to us after we die (probably nothing - there's no evidence to the contrary) and we don't know for sure if there is life anywhere else in the universe. There are no fairies, elves, or dragons. There are trolls, however.

#202 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-11-05 07:33 PM | Reply | Flag

Then put your money where your mouth is---give the 100-1 odds. You should be able to give a million to one odds if you were so sure. Put up your $1000, or stfu. That was the bet proposed. Let's see how much you believe what you say. I don't have much confidence in aliens revealing themselves, but I am still accepting terrific odds. Put up or shut up.

"I've never heard or watched an art Bell show."

The Youtube video you linked is Coast to Coast. C'mon Bob. Grow a pair.

#200 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-11-05 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag

That link is 8 minutes long---is an Art Bell show 8 minutes long? Just--wow.

Do you like prime rib?

#210 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-11-05 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag

The only thing I like better than a prime rib dinner is ten prime rib dinners.

Actually there are a few things I like better than prime rib---just not for dinner, but they wouldn't have worked into our bet, and they would have gotten me a dump.