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A liberal advocacy group is launching Conservative Transparency, a new web site to document the financial and political ties of conservative groups. The site is being run by the Media Matters Action Network and uses Internal Revenue Service filings to track the major financial backers and beneficiaries of conservative activist groups.

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Too fucking bad they won't scrutinize all the illegal shit in their own damned camp. Hypocrats, alive and well....

The Post's straightforward "Liberal group eyes conservatives' connections" becomes American1st's protracted whine "Liberals take aim at Conservatives....yet again...". Oh, a pox upon those pesky liberals, having the gall to actually spend some time researching the financial connections of conservative activist groups. Oh fie. And...and...fiddledeedee.

#1 | Posted by American1st

I wonder, do cockroaches whine as much when someone turns on a light?

A liberal advocacy group attempts to raise awareness of the ties that bind the GOP to people working against the best long term interests of the country and it's citizenry?

Good stuff sez Spud!

Teabaggers seriously need to learn that their protests were fer the most part orchestrated by and for the corporate elites of America.

After that maybe they can figure out where their anti Global Warming talking points come from and why.

Spud dares to dream.

Be Well.

"I wonder, do cockroaches whine as much when someone turns on a light?"
#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

You know they do Doc. Just ask Obama, ACORN, Planned Parenthood, etc. etc.

----A liberal advocacy group attempts to raise awareness of the ties that bind the GOP to people working against the best long term interests of the country and it's citizenry?-----

Comical...So suds thinks that destroying our economy by overloading the system with "free" healthcare to anyone who wants it, is good for the citizenry and country... What a blithering idiot.
Maybe Suds and Dic-starvis along with the other mentally and morally challenged left wingers on here, feel the need to be controlled by a government. And maybe they lack the drive or pride to care for themselves and think for themselves. Well I dont. How funny that a political group can cry foul when they think that the other side is being supported by big companies, when that same group is supported by Soros, G.E. Acorn, Media matters and the entire mainstream media. I used to get angry at your pathetic ignorance but now I just feel sorry for your mental disorder.

But I thought the Right doesn't scrutinize the Left? Are you calling American1st a liar?

I just feel sorry for your mental disorder.
#6 | Posted by Azwar

My sympathies to your minders.

How does Media Matters get mentioned in the same breath as George Soros and General Electric? Media Matters is a small media activism group.

#9 | Posted by rcade

I'll take Ignorance for $1000 Rogers.

"I'll take Ignorance for $1000 Rogers."

You can actually have it much cheaper.

"Internet gossip Matt Drudge has claimed that Media Matters for America is a "Soros operation." In fact, Media Matters has never received funding from progressive philanthropist George Soros."

mediamatters.org

They are using Internal Revenue Service records to monitor which can be done with concervatives but won't work with democrats since we all know they don't pay their taxes.

Never mind all of the Obama contributors who now have cushy jobs in his administration who completely skirted lobbiest rules. Can't look into them

"Can't look into them"

What are you talking about??? There are plenty of people looking into them. What's wrong, you don't like it when the same thing is done to your side????

#5 | Posted by KBM


BURN!!!!

This thread is a wonderful example of where we're headed. Everyone should be concerned about financial and political ties of activist groups, regardless of ideology. Instead, it's all about getting the "other side." Can't help but think it's all going to boil over some day.

destroying our economy by overloading the system with "free" healthcare to anyone who wants it

You guys on the right need to come up for air.

A position that advocates the denial of health care to sick people because they are not rich like you is not an electoral winner.

Look at the break-down of where and how much Thomas Monaghan (Dominos Pizza) spends his money.

This is the guy leading the moral "christian" crusade. Take a look at what passes for holy causes in the christian right:

-$100,000 to Michigan right to Life
-$100 to Michigan meals on wheels

-2.6 mil to Gabriel Richard High School (with 400 students)...this is a place where kids must pass a "sexual dance test" before prom so as not to make Jesus cry.
-$560 to St Vincent de Paul Society that provides goods and services to poor people (not just "pregnancy planning")

-56 million to Ave Maria Law School
-500 to Baptist missions


When rich "christians" put their money where their mouth is, their mommas are usually reaching for some soap.

assets.sunlightfoundation.com

Keep an eye on both sides wingnuts. Focusing on one side just exposes your ignorance.

This thread is a wonderful example of where we're headed. Everyone should be concerned about financial and political ties of activist groups, regardless of ideology. Instead, it's all about getting the "other side." Can't help but think it's all going to boil over some day.
#16 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

I'd support a conservative group doing the same thing to democrats.

Transparency, especially with respect to the money, is always a good thing.

I'd support a conservative group doing the same thing to democrats.

Transparency, especially with respect to the money, is always a good thing.

#20 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-11-03 11:52 AM

Even better, a nonpartisan group looking at all sides.

Kind of a "fackcheck.org" of money and political ties. Does such a thing exist?

"Even better, a nonpartisan group looking at all sides."

nonpartisan is code for bipartisan is code for collusion in my book.

Non-partisan groups are always picked from, approved, and supported by partisans. A true "non-partisan" group would be mocked by both the left and right; not endorsed.

Actually I like the idea of tracking money men (Soros for example.....), regardless of party or politics.

Who is funding the people who are funding the people funding the people tracking Conservative money men?

Let there be two partisan sites. If all they are doing is tracking money, then who care which pol any site focuses on?

Then they could discredit themselves by publishing lies. Otherwise, their chosen foci are just a matter of preference. No harm, no foul.

Who is funding the people who are funding the people funding the people tracking Conservative money men?
#25 | Posted by kanrei

Me for starters.

But who's funding me?

But who's funding me?

#27 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-11-03 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag:Gets Pass ONLY Because Too Easy

"Gets Pass ONLY Because Too Easy"

Go for it.

|:-[

To respond: you only have a moment and that moment's gone

Does such a thing exist?

There is a money map on HuffPo. It'll show who made what in personal donations to a campaign. You can check out all the people in your neighborhood, or where ever...

fundrace.huffingtonpost.com

But tracking the money to/from 527's and PACs won't be easy. Most of that money comes from organizations set-up simply as go-betweens.

Rich guy sets up a "charity" or "trust". Said charity is directed by rich guy to give money to PAC to make an attack ad, or fund a sister organization. It is done so you can't see where the money comes from. If you want to know who gave candidate X money the FEC will tell you, "Catholic Ministries of Saskatchewan"--but if you want to know who funds CMofS you'll need to file a Freedom of Information document and/or get a subpoena.

I suspect if a non-partisan group started really digging the holes would just get much deeper and the ground much harder.

The best way to bring all political donations into the light is to tax the fuck out of 'em. Give as much as you want, but it is classified as gain for income purposes, and Uncle Sam gets a big cut right off the top. If you made 100 million last year and gave 25 million to a wing-nut political "charity", you pay 125 million in income taxes and the 25 million dollar donation is hit with a ____(90%?) rate before the charity touches it. A 1000 point media-buy in the Pacific Northwest now requires you to raise 300 million in donations to pay the taxes on a 12 million dollar ad campaign.

If you made 100 million last year and gave 25 million to a wing-nut political "charity", you pay 125 million in income taxes and the 25 million dollar donation is hit with a ____(90%?) rate before the charity touches it.


you want to reword that a little?

Nope. I want it to be very, VERY expensive to use your money to influence elections. And I want to the biggest benefactor of ANY political donation to be the US Government, a.k.a the taxpayer.

A true "non-partisan" group would be mocked by both the left and right; not endorsed.

Libertarians?

Media Matters should start with themselves--who funds them?? lol


As for their new website--go with it.

Transparency is fine.

Non-partisan groups are always picked from, approved, and supported by partisans. A true "non-partisan" group would be mocked by both the left and right; not endorsed.

#23 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-11-03 12:10 PM

I don't know about that, but the bigger point is that liberals and conservatives should be working together to keep things transparent, and honest. Instead, we rely on biased organizations to do it for us, and the divide keeps growing. Is there even such a thing as an honest debate anymore?

Soros is expanding now that he has had a very good year in the gold markets.

I agree that keeping an eye on both would be nice. But the site is gonna have to sell ad space to keep alive, most likely. It'd be tough to generate much interest in advertisers if there's handholding between the parties.

I'd support a conservative group doing the same thing to democrats.

Me too. There's nothing wrong with following the money in politics.

There's nothing wrong with following the money in politics.

Except that the money's there in the first place.

I think we ought to increase congress' salary to $500k and vigorously and without bias prosecute any penny taken unscrupulously and any gift more expensive than a Tshirt. Otherwise this country will continue to be owned by the corporations and lobbyists, no matter which party is in power.

House Bill 1826

A step in the right direction to get money out of the election process.


Call your reps...

Of course, calling your reps will require a little more than merely posting bs on a web blog, eh?

LOL

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