There is no denying that without access to affordable health care man's chances of living getting slimmer. Every other industrialized nation has stepped in to assure their citizens have access to affordable health care. Are you saying all these other countries have a "socalistic government?"

#86 | Posted by hope4hope at 2009-11-03 07:38 PM

Man's chances get slimmer because of lifestyle more than having the Gov provide health insurance. Abusing tobacco, alcohol, fatty foods and lack of exercise will shorten any life regardless of who pays.

The Gov can't even provide vaccination in a timely matter or provide enough for the 300 plus million. God only knows how anyone can think they won't screw up healthcare, if it passes.

#90...
You think the Gov can force every american to sign up from birth to grave, like most other Countries that have UHC? Good luck.

"Crispee, not everyone gets ill because of their own vices"

I agree, I was saying the lifestyle prevents people from growing old much more than who provides their coverage. We already know almost 30% of medicaid and medicares costs are caused by tobacco and alcohol abuse. Imagine what that cost would be if 300 million signed up.

Why aren't you bitching about the Government ran FLOOD INS program...

#94 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2009-11-03 09:33 PM | R
Biggest ripoff outside of banks overdraft charges. I have had to explain Flood Insurance to many clients who were forced to have it because they lived near a river or channel. Even though it never flooded for 50 years, but the Gov requires it and the Lenders have no choice but to make sure homeowners have it.

what about Obesity? find out what that costs and get back to us. I'll bet it's at least equal to the two you just listed

#97 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2009-11-03 09:41 PM |
I got that figure from a roundtable discussion on PBS about a month ago. I am sure the obesity costs are probably just as staggering.

#100 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-04 05:23 AM | Reply

Looks like blue are today's trolling feathers to catch tuna's like Drunky.

"95 Crispee, I don't understand why the fact that some people don't take care of themselves equates to denying American citizens access to affordable health care. A right our founding fathers said we have."

I never said they don't deserve access to affordable health coverage, my point was taking care of ourselves reduces the costs and could expand the coverage. The fact we are the fattest nation in the industrialized world means more and more people are going to have problems, which drives the costs up.

#99...

I know throwing it back on what I see or know is common for you Bob, but it doesn't refute the post or answer the question posed. Do you think as a nation we are willing to have the Gov take control of our healthcare from birth to grave, like many nations which offer UHC?

"Then you are for the government stepping in to ensure American's have access to affordable health care."

I am for the Gov picking up the slack and taking care of those who need it. The problem is more and more expect the Gov to pick up the slack which removes incentives to rely on yourself. I don't expect the gov to make or limit my choices.

Look like Palook is be needin' some kinda Anglish lesson.

You snag faster than the carp you fish for in your bathing bucket. LOL.

#106 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-04 10:31 AM

Funny, I could have sworn you were the "tuna" which went after the feather. Looks like fishing can be added to your ignorance list along with boxing and pop culture. Of course whining and insolence are two areas you can be considered an expert on.

"insolence"
#108 | Posted by crispee_oc

Insolence

1.The quality or condition of being insolent.

2.An instance of insolent behavior, treatment, or speech.

Insolent

1.Presumptuous and insulting in manner or speech; arrogant.
2.Audaciously rude or disrespectful; impertinent.

Thesaurus: insolence
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1.The quality of being arrogant: arrogance, haughtiness, hauteur, loftiness, lordliness, overbearingness, presumption, pride, pridefulness, proudness, superciliousness, superiority. See attitude/good attitude/bad attitude/neutral attitude.
2.The state or quality of being impudent or arrogantly self-confident: assumption, audaciousness, audacity, boldness, brashness, brazenness, cheek, cheekiness, chutzpah, discourtesy, disrespect, effrontery, face, familiarity, forwardness, gall1, impertinence, impudence, impudency, incivility, nerve, nerviness, overconfidence, pertness, presumptuousness, pushiness, rudeness, sassiness, sauciness. Informal brass, crust, sauce, uppishness, uppityness. See attitude/good attitude/bad attitude/neutral attitude, courtesy/discourtesy.

Think maybe that describes you to a tee Drunky?

Who'd you pick that blunt dart up from, Palook? Bunny Wigglesworth?

#110 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-04 11:08 AM | Re

No surprise you were clueless to 'My Cousin Vinny' and used the 'Gay Blade' as proof or a defense to your lack of knowledge in pop culture. Why not 'Grumpy Old Men'?

#116 | Posted by JeffJ at 2009-11-04 11:46 AM |

Doc, (or Charlie Tuna) didn't know this was a line from 'My Cousing Vinny' yesterday and as usual tries to mask his ignorance by explaining Jack wasn't real or some BS...He is still being a "puling little whiner" because I punked him on using a google search to find out who Bert Sugar was and he foolishly called him "Sweet as Sugar" because the first link that came up had those words in the body of the page. Problem was, Bert Sugar referred to the Sweet as Sugar in repsects to Sugar Ray Robinson. Now that his fragile ego was cracked every post I make is like trolling with a feathered lure for him to bite.

Did you buy your computer from the guy who sold Jack the beans?????
Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-11-03 12:53 PM | Reply

Crispee, I gonna try and break this to you the nicest way I can, okay?

"Jack" is a fictional character. (There are real people named "Jack," but he isn't one of them.)

The magic beans? They don't exist. Never did.

Would you like me to get you a handkerchief?
#254 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-03 01:04 PM

"As far as choice, a public option will add to your choices since right now you have no public option to choose unless you are dirt poor or elderly."

I have plenty of options Hope. I can find a job which covers my HC, I can shop for policies with higher or lower decutibles, depending on the coverage that is right for me. Not saying others are that fortunate, but I don't think the Gov should tell me what or if I need coverage or tax me if I decide otherwise. Like I said, I am all for the Gov. taking up the slack if one chooses to accept their handout.

decutibles,

deductibles...

#128...

What was that Charlie Tuna? Now you start biting lures that haven't been cast? Now we know the physical handicap of being small has gone to the literal sense of being a small man. All because you got a dose of your own medicine?

Did senility play a part in your recent pathetic rants of an obsolete, drunk cretin who wears depends? Maybe that scent du jour is your soiled adult diaper.

"Obsession" has become more than just Crispee Palooka's scent du jour.
#420 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-04 01:14 PM

My name be Crispee Palooka. I am sorely in need of help because I'm...I'm...well, let's put it this way: There is nothing wrong with me that probably can't be helped with a deisel drum filled with equal parts Haldol, Anafranil, Buspar, Cylert, Orap, Effexor Tranxene, Dexedrine, Mellaril, Lithobid, Valium, Ritalin, Navane, Luvox, Xanax, Prolixin, Norpramin, Risperdal, Paxil, Stelazine, Prozac, Thorazine, Tofranil, Wellbutrin, and Zoloft topped off with a large stein of Klonipin, Clonidin, Catapres, Inderolm
Tegretol, Tenex, Isoptin, and...and...oh, yeah, Procardia XL for that twitch." #128 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-04 01:34 PM

Sorry Charlie Tuna, all I take is Atenolol for high blood pressure.

Ask any mermaid you happen to see... Who's the biggest chicken amongst the drudgees, Doc the pathetic Drunky...

You do sound very fortunate that you are able to navigate this horribly broken health care system. I hope that continues for you. But health reform is not a hand out. Citizens will pay just as they do now to private companies. But then everyone will be able to experience your good fortune.

#127 | Posted by hope4hope at 2009-11-04 01:30 PM

Hope,

Your post indicates I was "given" some sort of good forune. I would like to think I worked for whatever fortunes that have been bestowed on me. I don't expect anyone to give me anything that wasn't earned nor do I depend on anyone to give me something I can't or should be able to get myself. This way if and when I fail, there is only one person to blame, me.

#132...

So far the only problem is some feeble, little drunken man whining about getting punked a few days ago and his fragile ego has been cracked. Laughbale bringing HC Reform seeing as the Gov is taking care of yours. Hypocrisy? Or just the rants of a bitter dwarf who is slowly becoming obsolete.

Wow, you really are a mental case, aren't you, Palook? I'm almost sorry I drove you over the edge. But I'll console myself with the knowledge that (a) you were already teetering over the edge and (b) it provided a few laughs. But now I'm starting to feel like I'm kicking a mangey little pup in search of a teat for nourishment. Keep sucking, Palook, you never know when something might turn up.

#134 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-04 02:43 PM | Reply

Man you need to double up on that Alzheimers medication or loosen those depends. You are the tuna biting the lures that haven't even been cast. I am starting to feel guilty for picking on someone who needs a booster seat to drive. I couldn't give a rats ass what your limited brains cells make you write. Hell, now you are resorting to using my "dog" metaphors. Must suck getting punked to a point you don't even remember what was written. You appear as angry as an old man trying to send back soup in a Deli.

#139 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-11-04 05:27 PM

Drunky,
It appears you are in some sort of psychotic rage stemming from being punked. Those childish rants only enlighten the fact you are a lonely, useless pathetic old man who's sanity must be near the end. I am glad you are wasting what little time in some pathetic attempt to make me the reason for all your inevitable shortcomings before being committed or rendered incapacitated. It is obvious your physical and now mental challenges have intertwined and you have become certifiable. But I appreciate the laughs and feel good knowing I helped push you over the edge. By all means continue on until what's left of your brain goes out. I have nothing but time. Sadly, you don't. I can only guess nature is paying you back for being a insolent, angry dwarf with a chip on your shoulder the size of Gibraltar.