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Republican Dede Scozzafava has suspended her bid in next Tuesday's NY 23 special election, a huge development that dramatically shakes up the race. She did not endorse either of her two opponents -- Conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman or Democrat Bill Owens.

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OHMIGOSH!!

I guess emails do work ;o)

Dede's statement--

Scozzafava's statement:

Dear Friends and Supporters:

Throughout the course of my campaign for Congress, I have made the people of the 23rd District and the issues that affect them the focal point of my campaign. As a life long resident of this District, I care deeply and passionately about its people and our way of life. Whether as a candidate for Congress, a State Assemblywoman or a small town Mayor, I have always sought to act with the best interest of our District and its residents in mindand today I again seek to act for the good of our community.

The opportunity to run as the Republican and Independence Party candidate to represent the 23rd District has been and remains one of the greatest honors of my life. During the past several months, as I've traveled the district, meeting and talking with voters about the issues that matter most to them, I've been overwhelmed by the amount of support I've received as I sought to serve as their voice in Washington. However, as Winston Churchill once said, Democracy can be a fickle employer, and the road to public office is not always a smooth one.

In recent days, polls have indicated that my chances of winning this election are not as strong as we would like them to be. The reality that I've come to accept is that in today's political arena, you must be able to back up your message with moneyand as I've been outspent on both sides, I've been unable to effectively address many of the charges that have been made about my record. But as I've said from the start of this campaign, this election is not about me, it's about the people of this District. And, as always, today I will do what I believe serves their interests best.

It is increasingly clear that pressure is mounting on many of my supporters to shift their support. Consequently, I hereby release those individuals who have endorsed and supported my campaign to transfer their support as they see fit to do so. I am and have always been a proud Republican. It is my hope that with my actions today, my Party will emerge stronger and our District and our nation can take an important step towards restoring the enduring strength and economic prosperity that has defined us for generations.

On Election Day my name will appear on the ballot, but victory is unlikely. To those who support me and to those who choose not to I offer my sincerest thanks.

Dede

This is great news! I hope the Conservative Party candidate wins!

GO Hoffman GO!!

Power to the Palin!

power to the palin?????? lol

she was never going to win
we have enough rhinos helping to destroy this once great country.

and be sure and catch the threads and comments in midia

the white house is already planning thier excuses and lowering of what these elections MIGHT mean.

DAMN...I almost have a feeling running down my leg

I've never been to upstate NY, never been to D.C.
Some people don't belong there.


This is a huge win for the Conservative movement and a loss for RINOs.

power to the palin?????? lol

she was never going to win
we have enough rhinos helping to destroy this once great country.

and be sure and catch the threads and comments in midia

the white house is already planning thier excuses and lowering of what these elections MIGHT mean.

DAMN...I almost have a feeling running down my leg

#7 | Posted by afkabl2

this entire situation could be the turning point where the "grass roots" wrestles the GOP back from the "inside the beltway" party bosses - aka; newt, mccain, steele, grahm, etc

#9 | Posted by markh

Amen!



And emails really do work!! lol

Doug Hoffman looks like a creepy ice cream van guy that you don't let your kids go to.

So will Nyorkers let outside politicians decide who represents them?

In related news, Newt has gone bck under his rock.

"So will Nyorkers let outside politicians decide who represents them?"

New Yorkers had no problem electing Hillary to the Senate in 2000, they wanted a "heavyweight" to bring home the bacon rather than electing an unknown congressman.

The answer to your question is, no, they won't have a problem.

Apparently Hoffman was in the district until the recent jerrymandering by the NY legislature changed the lines.

You know--trying to make a conservative district more liberal or visa versa depending on your persuation.

MOntecore owes me a 'Atta' girl'!! ;oD

Newt has gone bck under his rock.

You gotta admit, his stance did give him a helluva lot of press. But he was right, Scozzafallujah was both anti-tax and anti-pelosi. Yes, liberal on some issues but I'd rather have a liberal Repub, than a conservative Dem. But I live in California, what do I know?

Why? Did you prdict this would happen?

"But I live in California,"

That is terrible! It be better to live in Hell, if it existed.

#17 | Posted by member2586

I told him I was sending emails to the RNC and Steele--and he laughed it off. Such a cynic. lol

I did not think she would quit or suspend her campaign.

I didn't believe she would win either.

Maybe some of the folks are waking up in this country and becoming more involved then ever before-- I love it when you essentially spit in the face of the party establishment who are there for themselves and the big money. Maybe it'll happen on the dem side next. It's time to hold these folks accountable. Also encouraging is a recent poll that says 40% of Americans are conservative and 20% liberals. 2/3rds of the conservatives aren't affiliated with the republican party. Interesting mix.

I was surprised to see her drop by the wayside. This is a signal that conservatism has a pulse.

Let this be a warning to other RINOs. America is a right of center nation, IMO.

We (conservatives) have seen the Republican party act as Dem-lite for too long. Since the late 90's, actually. That's why Dems have eventually taken over Congress and also the POTUS.

Jimmy Carter begat Reagan. Might be headed that same way again.

Conservatism, clearly and confidently articulated, is a winning formula. I know I'll catch DR heat on that, but it's true.

Yep, and maybe some of the hard core dems will wake up to the fact that Obummer is in bed with corporate America and a front for an establishment that has put us where we are along with another group that wants to neutralize free speech (e.q.--the internet). You have to get behind the smile and the words and look at those around him and their radicalism and some of their words and actions. The folks are getting a clue and are getting very concerned about the direction of the country-- that will morph into looking at facts more and not at propaganda and marketting schemes.

Conservatism, clearly and confidently articulated, is a winning formula. I know I'll catch DR heat on that, but it's true.

That needed to be repeated, 100% agreement.

ANDY-
I've felt that way for a long time. Recent polling, cited here on the DR as well, shows a much higher polling for "conservative" than it does for "Republican" affiliation. That should be a big indicator of the public's desire for a return to its more conservative roots.

It's there for the taking if we have the political courage. Unfortunately, too many pols... once in power... seek to spend money to buy future votes.

I fail to see how running as Dem-lite is a winner. If someone wants the Dem platform, there are full-fledged lib Dems who'd much better fill the bill.

Like someone said before. When Election time comes Republicans are conservatives it makes no difference what was said before or afterwards. They are synonimous.

Larry

LAR-
It DOES make a difference. When we elect people who campaign as conservatives, yet govern as either libs or moderates, we become disillusioned.

The result is we aren't enthusiastic... and will vote as much "against" a Dem as anything else. Not a winning formula.

We want confident conservatives who'll govern as such. Give us those and we'll turn out in huge numbers.

LAR-
Actually, as national Dem figures run their campaign, they also sound like conservatives. Would you agree?

Actually, as national Dem figures run their campaign, they also sound like conservatives. Would you agree?

Posted by OohRah at 2009-10-31 03:10 PM | Reply

No


LAR-
It DOES make a difference. When we elect people who campaign as conservatives, yet govern as either libs or moderates, we become disillusioned.


The result is we aren't enthusiastic... and will vote as much "against" a Dem as anything else. Not a winning formula.


We want confident conservatives who'll govern as such. Give us those and we'll turn out in huge numbers.

Posted by OohRah at 2009-10-31 03:09 PM | Reply


Seems to me You don't mind how they govern when push comes to shove You will vote for the Republican candidate no matter if they are conservative or not. Oh and nobody votes against something. That is the excuse many make for their vote to placate their psyche's.

Larry

Actually, there is a strong conservative part to the democratic party. If you could mobilize the conservatives with strong affiliations in both parties with the ones who are independent you would have quite a force.

So LAR, when Obama runs as tough on national defense, cutting spending... telling people there ain't no free lunch and they have to have personal responsibility/
accountability... that's not conservative?

Seriously?

You know the routine (I presume)... run left to capture the primaries, then run to the middle in the general election. Would you agree?

Matsop many Dems are fiscally conservative but socially liberal. We don't want to be told how to live by the religious right.

MAT-
Correct. The nation is right of center.

Hard to say where Scoz's supporters are going to lean.
If they were in her camp because they felt Hoffman was too far to the right, they may lean towards Owens.
It's a rather conservative district, compared to most of New York state, but is it really conservative enough for Hoffman?
TIme will tell, but if over half of the voters were leaning toward either a D or a moderate R, I wouldn't assume Hoffman will win on election day.

"Oh and nobody votes against something." - LAR

Well I did when voting for McCain. And I suspect millions of others of my ilk did the same.

Might have been the same when you pulled the lever for Kerry. Were you really enthused about him? Or mostly just voting to try to keep Dubya and his cabal at bay?

#32--- I guess that often can be a dilemma for you.

If the republicans went back to being the party of Barry Goldwater they might stop being a regional party.

Larry - I believe that Liberal candidates definitely campaign as more conservative than they are. Even in legislation, Pelosi is calling the public option the "competitive" option, bringing to mind visions of a free market approach.

President Obama quotes:

Americans... still believe in an America where anything's possible - they just don't think their leaders do.

Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. (conservative to a point...that point being 250K)

I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95 percent of all working families, because, in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class.

No one is pro-abortion.

Tonight, we gather to affirm the greatness of our nation - not because of the height of our skyscrapers, or the power of our military, or the size of our economy. Our pride is based on a very simple premise, summed up in a declaration made over two hundred years ago.

We have real enemies in the world. These enemies must be found. They must be pursued and they must be defeated.

We need to internalize this idea of excellence. Not many folks spend a lot of time trying to be excellent.

We need to steer clear of this poverty of ambition, where people want to drive fancy cars and wear nice clothes and live in nice apartments but don't want to work hard to accomplish these things. Everyone should try to realize their full potential.

You will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime.

www.brainyquote.com

I would contend these quotes have conservative and common sense roots. He campaigned on hard work, no tax hikes, and rejected an entitlement culture.

The trouble with trying to define the nation as "right of center" is, what exactly does "center" mean these days?
If you don't know, how do you tell where the nation as a whole tends to lean?
I think we can all agree that the old one-dimensional model isn't very valid or reliable.

Even a two-dimensional model is overly simplistic.
One can say, "I'm fiscally conservative but socially liberal", but neither half of that statement is necessarily true across the board.

Perhaps the E-Harmony guys can come up with a model, based on 29 dimensions of political beliefs...

#38-- nice post-- that's why I look at a candidate's past along with who they associate with and their accomplishments or lack thereof-- the words and hype come last. The American people are so easily duped and that's why the handlers construct the marketting tools that are all too familiar.

"The trouble with trying to define the nation as "right of center" is, what exactly does "center" mean these days?"

That's a very legitimate question.

As I see it, the more that is tolerated and accepted, the farther left center becomes.

Right, Lisa...but then, it's no longer "left", but rather "center".

Where are we now, I wonder?

That's right Tom!

Center will always change by definition.

"Where are we now, I wonder?"

Not sure.

It's the center to come, that I really worry about.

Who's on first? second? third?

THE-
Most of America runs their family by trying to spend within their means... they are law abibing and don't want to see their government giving a pass to illegal immigrants, pols, or corporations who blatantly break the law... and while they are conservative as to social norms, though the may not necessarily back laws to outlaw gay marriage, etc... they live a tradtional lifestyle.

And this doesn't take into account people's religious beliefs. The secular humanism we see foisted upon our youth and society in general is a turn off for social conservatives.

Answer: Who's on first; what's on second; and I don't know is on third

"Who's on first? second? third?"

Who's on first.

What's on second.

I don't know is on third.

I LOVE that skit!!!

LMBO

You must have beat me by seconds, Mat!!

#46--- Oorah, I would generally agree with that . I do see humor in a large number of posts that say they don't want to be told how to live by the religious right-- I wonder how they define the religious right. The irony is that many of the muslim societies see us as decadent and would probably agree with the religious right in their opinions on a number of matters. It's a good thing LAR and others live in a country where muslim control isn't present-- I would think he would be rendered speechless rather quickly-- he should be greatful instead to live with some "religious righters" that would have no problem with the decisions he makes.

Lisa, I was wondering whether you or someone else would think of that and post it--- sorry.

It's ok Mat...I thought it was funny. When I looked at the times we made our posts...it was exactly the same.

I love that skit...my very favorite of all time!!

Thanks for making me think of it. Made me laugh.

It's a good thing LAR and others live in a country where muslim control isn't present-- I would think he would be rendered speechless rather quickly-- he should be greatful instead to live with some "religious righters" that would have no problem with the decisions he makes.

Posted by matsop at 2009-10-31 04:07 PM | Reply

I just loeve tyhe qarrogance that You spew regularly. You and OohRah would rather Me shut up about our Country's illegal behaviors than to speak out about such tyhings. It's laughable how Republican Right WIngers act just like the fucking enemy of this Grand Country time and time again. You guys want to quash free speech. OohRah has proven this time after time. But You guys do carry on with Your spew.

Larry

The 23rd is in upstate New York and about as far from New York City as you can get and still be in New York. Republicans always win the House seat by large margins over the Democrats. So this "conservative" Hoffman guy having won the internal struggle between what the loonies call RINO's and the loonies themselves will easily win the seat. No doubt shouts of "Palin 2012" will fill the air after the result is announced.

Interestingly Obama won the presidential election there and Bush didn't win by much so even though the electors are overwhelmingly Republican they are not the kneejerk variety. It would be great if the Democrat won to deflate the loonies' insufferable hubris but that's not going to happen. Maybe next time around if the Repubs still haven't got their act together.

Sorry, LAR, one (maybe 2) errors --I,m not a repub and I consider myself generally conservative --- you would have to tell me what a "right ringer" is in order to see if I fit in your category.

Brock, I don't think the repubs will have to "get their act together"-- since the dems appear to be imploding already.

The Palin is powerful and the yahoos shall prevail. Revelations 20:09. herm

AMEN, brother!


Doug Hoffman looks like a creepy ice cream van guy that you don't let your kids go to.

#11 | Posted by andyuhenet at 2009-10-31 12:09 PM


That'a boy/girl andy. Vote for looks it's always the best choice.

Heard this morning that Dede's 20% will go 3 to 1 in favor of Hoffman.

Owens is up by 1% --36% to 35%.

Hoffman should by all accounts win.

This was/is a different race.

Remember there was no primary--it's a special election.

Shaprton got all lit up when Gillespie was talking about how the GOP party--the local people in the district, picked Dede.

Apparently there were 11 people in the room and they went with her instead of Hoffman.

So Hoffman went Conservative.

Sharpton's reaction was priceless because he thinks the Dems picked their guy Owens differently. They didn't. They had their 11 guys from the local area pick Owens.

Now all the folks who went with Dede have now announced they are backing Hoffman.

Where this goes from here remains to be seen.

I am glad they are getting this district right.

And Larry--


No one is trying to shut you up. Obama doesn't post here on the DR.


They are asking legit questions about Obama and his running a campaign from the left and then ran to the center during the General.

Obama said many things that were/had a conservative bent.

And that fooled many independents into voting for him.

You may not agree with Obama on some the things he is doing--but for different reasons.

But no one is trying to shut you up.

I hope the Dems rally behind the Dem candidate. We need to make sure crazies in the same mold as Palin never hold power. I don't know how smart Hoffman is but I would assume if Murphy likes him he is dumb as a fence post. Murphy won't support educated folks because she is so uneducated.

#63---"because she is so uneducated"-- Murph, I didn't know you were of the female gender-- now, I'm all the more impressed

#50---"I would think he would be rendered speechless rather quickly"-- Look, I just saw LAR's head rolling past my house--he must have moved to Iran and opined (LAR--get it?--rendered speechless--head rolling).

GOP runs a 'moderate' Republican in a district that's been Republican since the 19th Century and then turn on their own candidate?

Shows how far right wacko the GOP's gone.

And why they're at 20% party ID

#63 | Posted by jackass

Love getting under your skin! lol

#66 | Posted by Timex at 2009-11-01 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag Hasn't read a damn thing..

Aaaaaahahahahahahhahahahaha.

watertowndailytimes.com

Scozzafava endorses OWEN over Hoffman. Nice circular firing squad Republicans...

Blame the local district idiots in the back room who picked her in the first place.

She is a fake rino.

Looks like she's a REAL rino, Murph...

She is a fake rino."

#72 | Posted by MURPHY

So a fake "Republican in name only" is a real Republican, right?

A rino is ok under some situations.

A fake rino is a Dem and/or liberal Dem running as a Repub. Like this Dede woman.

"A fake rino is a Dem "

No, Murphy. A "fake rino" is a real Republican by definition, you blithering idiot.

It's too easy to make fun of Murphy. It's pretty obvious she has low mental capacity.

#69 | Posted by MURPHY

Is that right? Did you miss the tidbit Scozzafava has now endorsed her former Democrat opponent. Who can blame here when your party leaders, Palin and Limbaugh, endorse the opponent of a GOP candidate.

The GOP is nothing but loony wackos who eat their own now.

They deserve to be at 20% party ID. "Big tent" is a one person pup tent.


So will Nyorkers let outside politicians decide who represents them?


In related news, Newt has gone bck under his rock.

#12 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-10-31 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag: Forgot the carpet bagger Clintons

I'm willing to accept the essential notion of two parties, one force pulling forwards, one force pulling backwards. Harder to accept is the notion of a whole political party to the right of the right. And it borders on the totally surrealistic than a workable percentage of Americans opt to align with the uglies to the right of the uglies. herm

Always happy to see a third party candidate have a chance, but the repubs are going to be kicking themselves (or Palin) if the Dem wins because of this.

The GOP 'base' wait gleefully for meaningless special election results.

The GOP's 'big tent' has become a leaky 'pup tent' due to their exclusionary practices.

She is not a repub--or a rino.

She pretends to be a rino--that is why she is a fake rino. She is a Dem.

Hoffman will win this.

The back door guys who picked this woman were morons.

And all this brouhaha--

What are the numbers??

32% feel they are repub

38% think they are Dems

The rest are in the middle.

Yet 40% of the country feel they are conservative.

And 20% think they are liberal...

So, Murphy, only right wing Sarah Palin wackos are allowed to call themselves "Republican"?

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE run Sarah in 2012! Pretty please with sugar on top!

She pretends to be a rino--that is why she is a fake rino. She is a Dem.

Posted by MURPHY

You blithering idiot. A "fake rino" is a real Republican by definition. Moron.

Is a fake wolf in sheeps clothing still a wolf?


What's wrong Nullifid?
You troll Murphy, yet cannot comment on the subject at hand. Being from CA, I would assume you would welcome a homegrown candidate.

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