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Early Thursday, President Obama met the flag-draped coffins of 18 Americans killed in Afghanistan when they arrived at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. Obama arrived to Dover on Marine One along with Attorney General Eric Holder and acting DEA administrator Michele Leonhart. Three of the dead were DEA special agents.

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I bet he won't have the balls to meet the families up close.

Does he get another noble peas prize for this, or is this covered by the last one?

"I bet he won't have the balls to meet the families up close."

You lose. Have a nice day in your own free-fire zone.

Classy Deluxe. Now THAT is how a President should be.

RIP

Hopefully he leaves his golf clubs in the car trunk.

You lose.

What a hypocrite this Obama turned out to be! LOL

Why a poor predictor of events you turned out to be! LOL.

But, seriously, good luck finding your way clear of the greater Pakistani free-fire zone.

Why a poor predictor of events you turned out to be!


Hey, I made a bet and I lost. So? I never claimed to be a fortune teller. LOL


greater Pakistani free-fire zone.


And what's THAT?

Oh... now I get it... Doccy is trying to say he enjoyed 100 women and kids dying in Peshawar's bomb?

They died because of American crap which you people can't finish since 8 years, you ungrateful twit.

Ugly Amreekan incapable of showing appreciation for anything....

Pakistan is a nuclear power with 180 million people and a gross domestic product of $422 billion. Since when is it the United States' responsibility to protect a country that powerful from its own domestic terrorism problem? The group suspected of the attack has been around since before the Afghanistan War began.

Lautenberg said in a statement. "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it. The Vice President should sever his financial ties to Halliburton once and for all."

Cheney continues to hold 433,333 Halliburton stock options. The company has been criticized by auditors for its handling of a no-bid contact in Iraq. Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay.

The Vice President has sought to stem criticism by signing an agreement to donate the after-tax profits from these stock options to charities of his choice, and his lawyer has said he will not take any tax deduction for the donations.

However, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) concluded in Sept. 2003 that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a "financial interest" regardless of whether the holder of the options will donate proceeds to charities. CRS also found that receiving deferred compensation is a financial interest.

Cheney told "Meet the Press" in 2003 that he didn't have any financial ties to the firm.

"Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush's vice president, I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest," the Vice President said. "I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years."

Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. According to financial disclosure forms, he was paid $205,298 in 2001; $262,392 in 2002; $278,437 in 2003; and $294,852 in 2004.

www.rawstory.com


Who changed pentagon rules to allow privatization of our military?

Who changed pentagon rules to no longer allow photos of flag draped caskets?

They died because of American crap
......#9 | Posted by Tosser

.......they died because Islam sucks........

.....a religion created by psycopath, fit only for lunatics.........

Personally, I can't wait for Bush and Cheney's third term to end.

greater Pakistani free-fire zone.

And what's THAT?
#8 | Posted by Tosser

The place where you live, Tosser.

"Oh... now I get it... Doccy is trying to say he enjoyed 100 women and kids dying in Peshawar's bomb?"

No. Why would I enjoy that? It's a tragedy. But, please, feel free to leap to idiotic conclusions based on your paranoid, blinkered perception of the world, Tosser. It's what you do best. Doesn't amount to much but, what the hell, you're a one-trick-pony kinda kid.

"They died because of American crap which you people can't finish since 8 years, you ungrateful twit."

Oh, riiiight, Amreeka's fault again.

"Ugly Amreekan incapable of showing appreciation for anything....
#9 | Posted by Tosser"

Again with the stereotypes and paranoia. C'mon, Tosser, can't you even make a serious go of trying to grow up?

Since when is it the United States' responsibility to protect a country that powerful from its own domestic terrorism problem?


It isn't "domestic terrorism", we are pretty sure of that.

It's Afghan terror visited upon us, exactly like they did in the 80s.

And this time the US is behind it, at the very least, indirectly.

I said "when anyone becomes a nuisance, we take them down".

The "taliban" in Swat... when they became a nuisance, we took them down.

When the taliban in Waziristan became a nuisance, we are taking them down.

America is more than half-way to becoming a nuisance.

Best be careful.

Solve Afghanistan. Do your jobs... what you haven't been doing since 8 years.

I bet he won't have the balls to meet the families up close.

#1 | Posted by Tosser

He would, Wanker. Go toss yerself elsewhere.

"And this time the US is behind it..."

Lay off the hashish, kiddo, it's rotting what's left of your frontal lobe.

Oh, riiiight, Amreeka's fault again.


Oh yes.

See, here is a story.

A dog fell into a village well.

The water got polluted.

The village elders went to the village mulla, "how do we purify the water?"

He said, "take out 100 buckets and recite some verses from the Koran and everything will be fine".

They did that.

Water still tasted bad.

"Mulla, please... it didn't work!"

Mulla takes one look... "you took out 100 buckets of water?"

"yes sir!"

"You did the Koran thing?"

"Yes sir!"

Well... you idiot.. you still left the dog in the well!"


Nothing will go back to normal as long as the American Dog is in the Afghan Well.

Solve Afghanistan. Do your jobs... what you haven't been doing since 8 years.

#15 | Posted by Tosser

You talk the Big Talk, Wanker. Why don't you and your fellow countrymen solve your problem, eh? It is your problem. Why the US keeps steppin' in to bail your sorry asses out I have yet to understand. There are other countries far more worthy of international assistance than the various Corruptistans littered across the ME.

Again with the stereotypes and paranoia.


You may call it what you like. Most of us however have a set of beliefs about how the US operates.

You have a long long road ahead of you to convince us otherwise.

Or else you will suffer in the long run. LOL

Why don't you and your fellow countrymen solve your problem, eh?


The "war on terror" is our problem.

If we solve it, we will solve it to our liking.

And believe me, you won't like it at all.

Give it 2 years. Then you will understand what I just said.

I repeat.. do your stupid job in Afghanistan.

The same job you haven't been doing for the last 8 years.

For a country ... a MIGHTY country like the US (lol)... it should be easy enough to keep a few Afghans in line, no?

"Obama Meets Fallen Soldiers at Dover"

I hope he did more than just meet them.

Help them to get up maybe?

He is the messiah after all, right?

Nothing will go back to normal as long as the American Dog is in the Afghan Well.
#18 | POSTED BY TOSSER AT 2009-10-29 07:54 AM |


Nothing will be back to normal until the dog who attacked the USA are no longer protected by Pakistanis and is taken out of the well and turned over to the US authorities.

Take care who you choose to be friends with as a person or country is known by the company it keeps.

Now...I don't want this to come out the wrong way, but given the knee jerk reactions of some on this site, it probably will.

Why has President Obama waited this long and until questions about whether or not to send more troops to Afghanistan popped up to go meet the dead of a war he is now responsible for?

It could be that he's decided that it's important to do, but it seems to be for political purposes. As if he's saying "look, I've watched war dead being brought back home, give me a break on the decision making thing."

I searched the googles for "President meets war dead" and this is the only story that shows up. Have our Presidents become so detached from the people they command that they don't bother to understand the human aspect of the wars they wage?

He, or one of his staff, should be there every time a dead or injured soldier, marine, airman or sailor comes home.

" Have our Presidents become so detached from the people they command that they don't bother to understand the human aspect of the wars they wage?"

Is that a rhetorical question, axi?


Media covers war dead's return after 18-year ban
Mon Apr 6, 2009 2:02pm EDT

DOVER, Delaware (Reuters) - The media was permitted on Sunday to cover the arrival of a U.S. armed service member's coffin at the Pentagon's main mortuary in Delaware for the first time in 18 years.

The administration of President Barack Obama relaxed a Pentagon ban on media coverage of returning U.S. war dead in February, giving grieving families the choice of whether to allow cameras at the solemn arrival ceremony.

The ban was imposed in 1991 during the first Gulf War with some exceptions, including the return of Navy seamen killed during the attack on the USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden in October 2000 that killed 17.

Former President George W. Bush imposed a stricter ban during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, sparking criticism that the federal government was hiding the human cost of its military operations.

www.reuters.com


Care to see them? They were fathers, brothers, sons,


www.boston.com


Jason G. Pautsch , picture 15, was a boy of 13 yrs when bush decided to invade iraqnam.


I bet he won't have the balls to meet the families up close.

#1 | POSTED BY TOSSER AT 2009-10-29 04:30 AM



On a clear fall night, the president zipped to Dover in about 40 minutes. He immediately spoke privately in a chapel with all the family members.


Read more at:
www.huffingtonpost.com


Your bullshit is debunked again, eh?

If I call bush, lilaWol, it rightly describes his lack of completion of his service and denigrates no one but bush.


However, I would like to point out that when karl rove or rush addict, (or whoever), came up with the idea of calling Obama, "the messiah", they were denigrating him, based on nothing but a smear, and in doing so, also denigrating the millions of people who actually believe in a messiah.

See the difference?

Even care?


That's what i thought.

When the taliban in Waziristan became a nuisance, we are taking them down.

After how many years? Pakistan allowed the Taliban to operate with impunity in Waziristan. Maybe that wasn't such a hot idea.

America is more than half-way to becoming a nuisance. Best be careful.

Or what -- you'll stop taking billions of dollars from us in military support? The U.S. has sent $11 billion in military and economic assistance to Pakistan since 2002.

"www.boston.com"

Powerful photos.

Thanks.

You are welcome Hagbard Celine

Here is the last comment on that page and worth noting I believe.

183.
To #145, we say we are proud not because they died but because they stood up and followed the orders given them. They did not run nor did they hide. 99% would agree that we should not be there no need there. It is what it is. I find it sad to wake up every morning knowing another soldier will be taken off a plain, shoved into a cargo van, taken to be processed and stuck into a hole. When our loved ones leave we can only hope and pray that we are lucky enough to have them another day. I do the best I can to do what needs to be done and keep busy with one thing or another. This life is a hard one and most give up and leave. Yes my husband signed on the dotted line. That does not mean he should be talked about or treated in a nasty manner. Many people forget that the right to talk such nastiness is given to you daily be the men and women fighting and loosing their lives. Support the war or not ( I dont) but please always support the soldiers and their families even is it is just with a smile. Our lives are like yours, please treat us as so.
Thank you , the wife of SGT DANIEL SMITH
UNITED STATES ARMY
FORT DRUM, NEW YORK


Honor the warriors, not the war


vvaw.org
ivaw.org

gsfp.org
mfso.org

"You may call it what you like. Most of us however have a set of beliefs about how the US operates.
#20 | Posted by Tosser"

And I think the Pakistani standard operating procedure also seems to be fairly widely understood. Basically, pretend you can play the intelligent Long Game while you get mired in the stupidities of the Short Game (India-Kashmir...fund terrorists...Oops! Whouddathunk they'd use those guns on Pakistanis?) and absolve yourself of all blame.

Bon appetit!

Is that a rhetorical question, axi?

Very much so.

Is that a rhetorical question, axi?

Very much so.

#34 | Posted by Axiom

Playing devil's advocate, its probably a defense mechanism. As a president, you are expected to make very difficult life or death decisions. Continuing to focus on the humanity of those involved can be crippling to that end.

Like a doctor who must, to a degree, cut themselves off emotionally from what they do in an effort to continue to be able to do what they do. I know that I couldn't be a doctor for precisely that reason.

All questions are "rhetorical" as they all use rhetoric. Try asking a question without one.

I'm having an odd morning.

I can't believe I just posted that.

All questions are "rhetorical" as they all use rhetoric.

Why would Kanrei try to change the definition of the term "rhetorical question" after six centuries of use?

It is a Simpsons joke.


"I was asking a Rhetorical question."

"I know, and I was answering in rhetoric."

I guess I am still off my game.

After how many years? Pakistan allowed the Taliban to operate with impunity in Waziristan.


They became a nuisance for us just now.

Previously, they were a nuisance for the Americans in Afghanistan, mostly.


Or what -- you'll stop taking billions of dollars from us in military support? The U.S. has sent $11 billion in military and economic assistance to Pakistan since 2002.


Oh, it isn't $11 Billion.. who told you that?

The actual figure is more like triple that. LOL

Since Israel takes more than that, I believe we are also entitled to as much American money as we can get, for all the headaches we get supporting the US in this fake "war in terror".

As to what we would do?

It's already being done.

Thanks to the Waziristan action, America has lost a whole Afghan province to the taliban, last week.

We were trying for all these years to manage things softly... so not to hurt you.

But now, we seem to be driving all these bad guys into Afghanistan.

The people who died in Afghanistan... the subjects of this thread... they, and many more to come, will die because Pakistan got tired of waiting for the US to do it's job. They will die because of all the taliban who are trying to escape the action in Waziristan.

I did say, when we start doing your job for you... stopping people from coming into Pakistan and decimating the taliban in general.... you won't like it.

Now you can kiss Afghanistan good-bye. LOL

It's the Afghan province of Nuristan.

It's in taliban hands now.

And it was all thanks to the crap we swept... and are sweeping... out of Pakistan.

You wished for Pakistan to come down hard on them? You got your wish. LOL

But now they're pissed and they're eating you alive. Better not have wished for something you can't handle, no?

Took a province. And then they bombed Kabul itself.

Obama meeting the fallen soldiers in broad daylight instead of sneaking them into the country in the dead of night like Dumbya did?

Well, that's a nice change.

That sed, Obama is gonna be racking up his frequent flyer miles if things keep up as they've been going.

Eight US soldiers have been killed in two separate bomb attacks in southern Afghanistan, making October the deadliest month for the US in Afghanistan since the 2001 invasion.

The deaths bring to 55 the number of US troops killed in October in Afghanistan.

english.aljazeera.net

Thought April was supposed to be the cruelest month.

Be Well.

/K really gone now

/K really gone now


Potato, you come and go like a tornado on fire... what's the rush?

Do stay a bit.

Potato, you come and go like a tornado on fire... what's the rush?

#44 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-10-29 10:09 AM | Reply


Pig Pen,
He's most likely dodging angry parents, or the authorities.

You got to love it when the first post proves how stupid the poster is!

Nice display of stupid Tosser.

Pakistan has been laying down with neocon dogs for many decades and now they are realizing they have FLEAS, as the "chickenhawks" come home to roost.

>>>>
Musharraf will be sacrificed for the larger planthe clash of civilizations, the neocon agenda to agitate the CIA spawned and nurtured "Militant Islamic Base" in P2OG fashion, essentially a GWOT psyop designed to get the ball rolling for the next few generations, as promised. Soon enough, Pakistan, or the artificially created Islamic Emirate of Waziristan, will be visited by C-130 gunships, as "suspected al-Qaida operatives" in southern Somalia were visited and subsequently killed, along with no shortage of villagers, the inevitable collateral damage of neocon policies.

As we know, "Job No. 1″ is to further the neocon agenda, the "clash of civilizations" plan to frontally assault Islam, no matter its stripe, particularly in the Middle East. Iraq, with its "sectarian violence" working toward the country's ultimate balkanization, is the template to be imposed on Pakistan, the former collaborator. "The country is going to break up in the years to come and everyone who can, should pack up their bags and leave," Ardeshir Cowasjee, the renowned newspaper columnist from Karachi, told the Daily Times.

If the neocons have their way, no Muslim nation will remain standing. Question is, however, will the American people get tired of this agenda, again promised to last for decades, or will they do something to put an end to the madness?

in part, read the rest here:

moderate.wordpress.com

I bet he won't have the balls to meet the families up close."


You lose. Have a nice day in your own free-fire zone.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-10-29 05:45 AM | Reply | Flag
Why does Doc_Soreass always seem to come out of the woodwork whenever there is a mention of balls?

Musharraf will be sacrificed


Mushi got creamed over a year ago.

Tell me something new.


"The country is going to break up in the years to come and everyone who can, should pack up their bags and leave," Ardeshir Cowasjee, the renowned newspaper columnist from Karachi, told the Daily Times.


Uncle Cowasjee lives life in a state of depression. Otherwise he is a fine fellow.


If the neocons have their way, no Muslim nation will remain standing.


THAT is true.

Why does Doc_Soreass always seem to come out of the woodwork whenever there is a mention of balls?


He's got a sick mind. Just wanted to rub my face in the fact that there had been a terrorist attack in Peshawar, so he made a snide comment.

The more I see this guy, the more he disgusts me.

You got to love it when the first post proves how stupid the poster is!


Listen... OK, so I was wrong.

Obama was man enough to meet the families.... this time.

However, as your casualties will mount (and they are going to mount as I explained), you will see Obama hiding from the families of the dead on occasions like this.

2 years...... THEN the disaster will be clear.

Worry about the shit hole you live in tosser.

"I bet he won't have the balls to meet the families up close."


You lose. Have a nice day in your own free-fire zone.
#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-10-29 05:45 AM

'Why does Doc_Soreass always seem to come out of the woodwork whenever there is a mention of balls?
#48 | Posted by reinsurelaw at 2009-10-29 10:53 AM"


Why does reinsurelaw come out of the woodwork when there is a mention of balls and then adds a comment about a Soreass?

Thanks for admitting you were wrong, however, your next assertion is just more pure projection on your part nothing more.

Why not take care of your own country and issues son and stop bashing the USA, while having your "hand out" please.....

You are like the repug governors who bashed the stimulus plan, but took the money, eh?

Realize all Americans are not the tiny minority of the hallichainy 18%rs

Why does reinsurelaw come out of the woodwork when there is a mention of balls and then adds a comment about a Soreass?
#53 | Posted by TrueBlue

There's some disagreement as to whether it's a learned or innate behavior.

"Just wanted to rub my face in the fact that there had been a terrorist attack in Peshawar, so he made a snide comment.

The more I see this guy, the more he disgusts me."

Why? When you first came here you were making jokes about 9/11. If someone rubs your nose in an attack on your country, they are just acting exactly like you.

You are like the repug governors who bashed the stimulus plan, but took the money, eh?


Since most of the money is for the bills you have to pay to us anyway, then yeah, we are going to take it.

And we should take as much as we can out of America. We deserve your money more than you do. LOL

Think of us as Israel-on-steroids when it comes to being a leech.


Why not take care of your own country


Oh we are going to..... President Zaradri... the guy who has his "hand out".. the guy who is America's spy and traitor to Pakistan... the most useless leader we ever had... he is either going to lose his job in a month or two or is going get his powers cut down to janitor-level.

(in Pakistan's original Constitution, the Prime Minister is all powerful... the President is like a janitor)

When Zardari is out, we will have a nice new relationship with the US and a new way of doing business with it. LOL

When you first came here you were making jokes about 9/11.


I only respond, I don't initiate.


Realize all Americans are not the tiny minority of the hallichainy


Oh come on!

they are just acting exactly like you.


How about I make things interesting?

For the next week, starting Sunday.. for the whole week... I will say nothing but nice things about the US.

I will be so nice, it will be nauseating.

BUT I will only do it, if someone here agrees to say only nice things about Pakistan.

Anyone up for a role reversal?

If you make it three years you can time your wishful "disaster" to the end of the Mayan calendar, Trollerdamus.

Just wanted to rub my face in the fact that there had been a terrorist attack in Peshawar, so he made a snide comment.
#50 | Posted by Tosser

For a fairly articulate, bright guy, Tosser, you can really be a dumbass sometimes.

I was not referring to Peshawar in particular when I wrote "Have a nice day in your own free-fire zone" -- the kind of glib stuff you constantly toss around here among people who have friends and relatives who've been in danger, wounded, some killed -- refers to Pakistan itself.

You've been making snide comments here aplenty and doing a whale of a lot of face rubbing, I saw no harm in letting you know that you are not immune to all the crap you keep hoping will befall the US and Americans in general.

You assume others behave as you do, are motivated by the same ignorance, paranoia, stereotyping, and racialist thinking that handicaps you. But that's not the case. Your selective victimhood is childish and boring. Do yourself a favor, Tosser, and try acting like a responsible adult for a change.

you can really be a dumbass sometimes.


How so? What have I said that was so wrong?

Things aren't going to go very well for you people. Don't try and blame it on the messenger... me.


I was not referring to Peshawar in particular when I wrote "Have a nice day in your own free-fire zone"


Yes you were, yes you were.... be man enough to admit your tastelessness, you Ugly Amreekan.


I saw no harm in letting you know that you are not immune to all the crap you keep hoping will befall the US and Americans in general.


And I see no harm in telling you, that what I hoped would happen to your people in uniform, is going to happen for real.

Body-bags will be the new fashion for Americans in Afghanistan.

How's that for face rubbing? LOL

He should have handed out some of these complimentary flag desecration videos that the dems love so much.

www.politico.com

Keep trying to play fast and loose with us.

Do you people even realize why 9-11 happened? The reason it happened isn't important.

What is important, is that Pakistan could've stopped it.

Clinton had even sent teams to take down Bin Ladin. (this was before 9-11)

But the operation was refused by Mushi. Why should Pakistan help the US, when the US had placed so many sanctions on us?

So Bin Ladin fell through the cracks and then look what happened on 9-11.

I look forward to our new relationship.

"Things aren't going to go very well for you people."

They seem to be going something less than swimingly for "you people" as well. Oh, right, our fault.

"I was not referring to Peshawar in particular when I wrote "Have a nice day in your own free-fire zone"
Yes you were, yes you were....Ugly Amreekan."

Jeezus, you're incredibly dense. "Yes you were, yes you were." You sound more and more like a baby with every post. Or someone who either attended or still attends an all-girl's school.

"Ugly Amreekan." Tell that to the head choppers when they show up at your door, Tosser. LOL.

They seem to be going something less than swimingly for "you people" as well.


It will work out. Just like before.

Your problem, however, will not work out. LOL


You sound more and more like a baby with every post.


I have to drop down to your level of communication "Doc". Or else the message will just sail by.


Tell that to the head choppers when they show up at your door, Tosser.


Oh dear. More American drama...

When the "head choppers" come at my gate, I will tell them what I told them before.... that "I'm Jewish." LOL

Bring the still living soldiers home.

If you ignore Tosser, only to chime in when it is obvious that he's an idiot, it works pretty well.

I can't read what you are saying if you are addressing him or quoting him in your posts. If you just ignore his ignorant and anti-american rants we can clean up the discussions a great deal.

I will tell them what I told them before.... that "I'm Jewish."
#66 | Posted by Tosser

Better yet, tell them you're a hijra asnd perform a little dance; it'll be more believable.

"BUT I will only do it, if someone here agrees to say only nice things about Pakistan."

Pakistan has great food.

Pakistan has great food.


Not you my dear.

I meant switching behaviors with one of the regular Pak bashers.

Not you my dear.

#73 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-10-29 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag: Flirting.

Better yet, tell them you're a hijra asnd perform a little dance


It'll be more believable if you do that.

Anyone who's seen them act like they act can't duplicate it.

They won't touch a hijra though... supposed to bring bad luck. LOL

Flirting.


Hardly.

Sounding like an occasional fuddy-duddy might be considered a speech defect, not a sign of flirting.

Anyone who's seen them act like they act can't duplicate it.
#75 | Posted by Tosser

Keep trying; you'll overcome the obstacles one of these days.

If you ignore Tosser,


Which you haven't been able to do with great success...

Keep trying; you'll overcome the obstacles one of these days.


The only obstacle is my penis. I'll have to cut that off.

Do you even know what you are talking about? LOL

Here you go:

American hijra.

www.youtube.com

Meanwhile...

news.bbc.co.uk

Pakistan army targets Uzbek base

Pakistani troops fighting the Taliban in South Waziristan have surrounded a key stronghold of Uzbek fighters, military officials say.

They say that the town of Kaniguram - one of the largest towns in the area - is also the "operational centre" of the Pakistani Taliban.


These are the toughest of the bastards, but they are done for with all their areas of support falling.

If they have an escape plan, they will escape into Afghanistan.

Let's see how long Karsick lasts then. LOL

It is a Simpsons joke.

Why did Kanrei ruin my perfectly good rhetorical question by answering it?

Why did Kanrei ruin my perfectly good rhetorical question by answering it?


I only answered in rhetoric though.

Tosser, I will be happy to take up your challenge. Until you came along I never used to have negative impressions of Pakistanis. But after reading all your arrogance and lies, I began to think, 'heck, this must be a nation full of assholes'.
You say nothing but positive things about the U.S. and I will say nothing but positive things about Pakistan. In fact, I'll probably even be sincere.

BASTARD! - dropped a long standing executive order so that he could have a photo - op.

Does he have NO SHAME?

Political capital from dead boys that might not be dead if he would have made the decision to add troops that could have help defend these guys!

And you people support this f-er?

ARRAGAHAGA

He should have handed out some of these complimentary flag desecration videos that the democrats love so much.

www.politico.com

" might not be dead if he would have made the decision to add troops that could have help defend these guys!"

With which government?

Are you actually suggesting we throw our money and our bravest into a situation where we have no idea if the surviving government will be a friendly one?

Must be the Republican mantra: shoot first, and ask if that was my friend, later. I think it's called The Cheney Doctrine.

He should have handed out some of these complimentary flag desecration videos that the democrats love so much.


Better yet, Chimpy could perform his always hilarious 'where are the WMD's, hmmm... maybe under the desk' routine for the families of the fallen.


4.bp.blogspot.com

Fo


Obama changed a pentagon rule that was invoked by ghwbush to hide the war dead from view.

Instead, he now allows the FAMILIES to decide whether their loved ones are shown or not.

You have a problem with them having that choice?


Only person I see posturing politically is YOU and those who "think" like you do.


"How about I make things interesting?

For the next week, starting Sunday.. for the whole week... I will say nothing but nice things about the US.

I will be so nice, it will be nauseating.

BUT I will only do it, if someone here agrees to say only nice things about Pakistan.

Anyone up for a role reversal?
#59 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-10-29 11:36 AM"


" 'Pakistan has great food.'

Not you my dear.
I meant switching behaviors with one of the regular Pak bashers.
#73 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-10-29 01:15 PM"


Flag: Doesn't like the goal posts where they are.

And also Fo

There is currently a 12 to 1 advantage of troops to insurgents/taleban. 100k coalition/US/Nato troops, 200k Afghani troops.

Pretending some would not have died had Obama knee jerked more in there is again, just political posturing on your part and it's very transparent. Were you calling for bush to send more when the US had only 10k there? Do some research instead of regurgitating the rw blowhards you obviously ingest daily.

If you think it's such a great idea, join up, or send your son/daughter to join up and volunteer to give the stoplossed, redeployed troops a break.

(crickets chirping)

should have read, multimillionaire CHICKENHAWK rw blowhards

You know, when I look at that picture of him worshiping at the ACORN community activist alter, he does sort of look like a chimpy.

www.freakingnews.com

"But John Ellsworth, who lost a son in Iraq in 2004, said photographs of the coffins could be used as anti-war propaganda. "It's pretty obvious that the Pentagon did not discuss this with us," said Ellsworth, president of Military Families United.

He said lifting the ban was arbitrary and poorly thought-out. His organization asked, for example, what would happen if different members of the same family disagree on news coverage"

And just in time for Obama to have his picture taken.

And Woke - It was not I that called the photographer - changed the ban - and posed for political purposes. It was Obama.

So don't say it is me that it is making it political. If he had made the decision to stand there WITHOUT having his picture taken I would not say anything...or if HE had agreed with the General that has been trying to get him to make a F_ING DECISION...I may have not said anything..

But to POSE for pictures with our dead that by his lack of decisiveness may have gotten them killed so he could LOOK like he cares...too much for me.

Woke - how can you find your clothes in the morning with you head stuck so far up your ass?

Serve? Been there - done that.

The plan calls for more troops to train Afganies, to stop taking towns only to have to leave them later (which is what the surge did for Iraq)and to add logistic people in theater to coordinate between the Government and the Military.

"But John Ellsworth, who lost a son in Iraq in 2004, said photographs of the coffins could be used as anti-war propaganda.
#94 | POSTED BY FOSHAFFER AT 2009-10-29 04:10 PM


And he was given a CHOICE buddy.

Unlike with the last regime, who prefer to hide our war dead and count their millions......in stock options.


Let me help you with your misinformation Fo.


The surge in iraqnam failed. From it's inception in Feb 07 thru August 07, US troop casualties doubled and some months were more than any other month/year of the occupation. Aug 07, there were more US casualties than in the two years before, combined.
More troops=more targets

On Aug 29, 07, DIPLOMACY was used to broker a truce with al sadr.....and US casualties dropped in half and continued to do more so and Obama turned security over to the iraqis...

Go to icasualties/irag by month/year and see for yourself ...


btw, I know i'm repeating myself, but namecalling/insults, etc are not valid arguments and actually indicate the FACT that your "arguments" are specious at best, hence your need to insult....

eh?

Why does he waste his time, He could be selling off the white house for more money to cover his defense when he goes to prison. He does not give a rats ass about American Troops. He is using them like jackson and sharpton use the stupid blacks.


Why does he waste his time, He could be selling off the white house for more money to cover his defense when he goes to prison. He does not give a rats ass about American Troops. He is using them like jackson and sharpton use the stupid blacks.

#97 | Posted by Badeye at 2009-10-29 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag STUPID FUCK.

#97 | Posted by Badeye at 2009-10-29 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag STUPID FUCK.

#98 | Posted by jerrytarkanian at 2009-10-29 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag: FEELS HIS TITLE IS BEING CHALLENGED.

were these the last 18 who died while he stalled the decision on more troops? disgusting.

300,000 troops there

12 to 1 coaltion/us/nato vs taleban

including the 34k obama's already sent since April, yet partisan rw fks who voted in the pos who invaded/occupied these countries want to say obama is the reason for the last 18...??


hiding your failed political ideology behind the troops is what is truly disgusting

join up or stfu outhouse

Everyone let's all rally, Obamadumba leave that wall alone, bring our troops home, you promised, and J Wilson was right, you lied...

Here was the alternative boys:


McCain in NH: Would Be "Fine" To Keep Troops in Iraq for "A Hundred Years"

By David Corn | Thu January 3, 2008 5:43 PM PST
The United States military could stay in Iraq for "maybe a hundred years" and that "would be fine with me," John McCain told two hundred or so people at a town hall meeting in Derry, New Hampshire, on Thursday evening.

www.motherjones.com

There's Biased Leftist illigit websites everywhere, people should know better than believe everything they read...

What a hypocrite this Obama turned out to be! LOL

#6 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-10-29 06:56 AM | Reply | Flag:


Right. just like Rummy and his computer generated and rubber stamped signature notes to the parents of the fallen soldiers.

You're a class act dumbass.

Tosser, I will be happy to take up your challenge. Until you came along I never used to have negative impressions of Pakistanis. But after reading all your arrogance and lies, I began to think, 'heck, this must be a nation full of assholes'.
You say nothing but positive things about the U.S. and I will say nothing but positive things about Pakistan. In fact, I'll probably even be sincere.


OK mister... you're on.

We'll keep it up even if we throw up all over ourselves.. starting this Sunday till next Sunday.

Oh... and you got to fight against anyone who sez anything negative about Pakistan.

And I will fight against anyone who sez anything negative about the US.

That's part of the package.

Total switch.

I must say I am a bit surprised... I didn't really expect anyone to take me up on this.

'heck, this must be a nation full of assholes'.


No... we're just like you. America and Pakistan are so close in behavior, it can be scary.

How many times have people claimed I'm from New Jersey??? LOL

Hillary:

But after pressing her message the US desire to turn a new page in its relations with Pakistan after mistakes of the past she appeared to get annoyed during talks with senior editors and business leaders.

The most senior US official to visit since President Barack Obama put the nuclear-armed state at the heart of the war on Al-Qaeda, Clinton took issue with Islamabad's position that the Al-Qaeda leadership is not in Pakistan.

Al Qaeda has had safe haven in Pakistan since 2002,' Clinton told senior Pakistani newspaper editors in the country's cultural capital, Lahore.

I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn't get them if they really wanted to,' she added.

Maybe that's the case; maybe they're not gettable. I don't know... As far as we know, they are in Pakistan,' she added.


Well, despite her insisting that the sky isn't blue, it looks like it is.

There doesn't appear to be any Bin Ladin in Waziristan.

Don't get me wrong... there is a chance you might read in the papers "Pak army kills Bin Ladin", but so far, there is no evidence, no signs, that he was ever there.

Mushi made an idiot of America and took all your money trying to "fight" against a guy who was never here. LOL

Oh sorry... I posted the above in the wrong thread...

More captured taliban weapons from yesterday.


www.aajkal.com.pk

www.aajkal.com.pk

New update. It starts in Urdu but then switches to English in the middle. Same info is repeated.

www.youtube.com

I would have been impressed with Obama if he didnt release pics saluting the troops. If Bush had done it, he would have been accused of something.

As for Pakistan, I think Clinton said it best ...
Clinton puzzled at Pakistan failure to find al Qaeda
By Andrew Quinn Andrew Quinn Thu Oct 29, 10:10 am ET

LAHORE, Pakistan (Reuters) U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's said on Thursday it was "hard to believe" that no one in Pakistan's government knew where al Qaeda leaders were hiding, striking a new tone on a trip where Washington's credibility has come under attack.

Scores of al Qaeda leaders and their operatives, including Osama bin Laden, are believed to be in hiding in the rugged border territory that divides Pakistan and Afghanistan, but both countries routinely accuse the other of being the main sanctuary

"I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn't get them if they really wanted to," she told a group of newspaper editors during a meeting in Lahore.

"Maybe they are not 'get-at-able'. I don't know," she said.

Clinton's pointed remark was the first public gripe on a trip aimed at turning around a U.S.-Pakistan relationship under serious strain, but bound in the struggle against religious extremism.

"I am more than willing to hear every complaint about the United States," Clinton said, ""but this is a two way street.

"If we are going to have a mature partnership where we work together" then "there are issues that not just the United States but others have with your government and with your military security establishment."

Clinton, who has sought to use her own personal outreach to overcome rising anti-American sentiment in Pakistan, earlier repeated her conviction that the two countries' common interests far outweighed their differences.

"I am well aware that there is a trust deficit," Clinton told students at a "townhall-style" meeting at Government College University in Lahore.

"My message is that's not the way it should be. We cannot let a minority of people in both countries determine our relationship."

Clinton's arrival in Pakistan on Wednesday was overshadowed by a car bomb blast that ripped through a market in the city of Peshawar, killing more than 100 people, in one of the largest recent attacks by Islamic militants seeking to destabilize the nuclear-armed country.

Clinton urged Pakistan's youth to stand firm against the forces of religious extremism, saying it threatened everything that both Americans and Pakistanis hold dear.

She carried the same message in her meetings with Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari and other high officials in Islamabad on Wednesday.

Clinton was due to meet Pakistan's army and security chiefs on Thursday, where she was expected to discuss Pakistan's latest military campaign against extremists in South Waziristan as well as the U.S.-led war against Taliban religious militants in neighboring Afghanistan.

But to POSE for pictures with our dead that by his lack of decisiveness may have gotten them killed so he could LOOK like he cares...too much for me.

* facepalm *

Obama honors America's war dead instead of sweeping them under the carpet in the dead of night like Dumbya did and the rtard meme du jour suddenly becomes how self serving and disrespectful Obama's action allegedly are?

* head desk *

Ever get the feeling that if Obama somehow managed to find a cure fer cancer overnight this site would suddenly be filled with RW cancer apologists?

"Obama's prejudiced against tumours!!! Bad Obama!!!"

"Oh Noez!! Curing Cancer is teh soshulizms!"

Morons.

Be Well.

As for Pakistan, I think Clinton said it best ...


For what Clinton said and what we thought of it, look here:

www.drudge.com

Start from post 68.

Please post in the proper thread, Hindu.

Passports and documents found with captured weapons.

farm3.static.flickr.com

Passports and documents found with captured weapons.

BBC has a story about an interesting passport found in Waziristan.

Pakistan's army says it has found in South Waziristan the passport of a man linked to two hijackers involved in the 11 September 2001 attacks in the US.

Correspondents says if the document is authentic, this will be the first time a direct link can be established between the Taliban in South Waziristan and the 9/11 attacks.

news.bbc.co.uk

Spud found that story kinda oddish.

We already knew that the Taliban originated in Wahabist-funded madrassas in Waziristan so discovering the passport of a Taliban associate who went to ground after 9/11 in that region now should not be any kind of a surprise to anyone.

Be Well.

Why do you find that oddish?

We said we have reached an area where we found Uzbek fighters.

Uzbeks are foreigners. As is generally believed, locals are "taliban" and foreigners are "al-Qaeda".

So if they found a passport of a guy linked to 9-11, it shouldn't be odd.

However, the American story that "BigFoot was here" (Bin Ladin) or that he is hiding here, doesn't seem to be holding any water.

However, the American story that "BigFoot was here" (Bin Ladin) or that he is hiding here, doesn't seem to be holding any water.

Hahahaha bigfoot and bin ladin... both are tall, hairy and elusive, occasionally appearing on a grainy video that gets a flurry of on-air attention before being forgotten.

However, the American story that "BigFoot was here" (Bin Ladin) or that he is hiding here, doesn't seem to be holding any water.

Bin Hidin', if he's even alive at all (not good odds) is prolly living in SA with his family.

Which isn't to say that Taliban and AQ haven't been hiding out in the FATA .

They have.

Bin Laden was far more useful to the previous regime alive and uncaught ergo they never really went after him as they should have.

Now that someone with the resolve to actually kill or capture the SOB is in the oval office the trail has gone cold.

Taking Bin Laden out at this late date would still be a win but it would also turn him into a freakin' Martyr icon fer a subset of extremist morons.

Be Well.

Well, seeing as how this is the third time the Paks have supposedly tried to squash the terroristas in South Waziristan, perhaps this time they might get it right. (Doubtful.) In the meantime...

CLINTON CHALLENGES PAKISTANIS ON AL QAEDA

LAHORE, Pakistan Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, on a visit meant to improve relations with Pakistan, strongly suggested Thursday that some Pakistani officials bore responsibility for allowing terrorists from Al Qaeda to operate from safe havens along this country's frontier...

[H]er skeptical comments also gave voice to the longtime frustration of American officials with what they see as the Pakistani government's lack of resolve in rooting out not only Al Qaeda, but also the Taliban leadership based in Quetta, and a host of militant groups that use the border region to stage attacks on American and NATO forces in Afghanistan.
www.nytimes.com

strongly suggested Thursday that some Pakistani officials bore responsibility for allowing terrorists from Al Qaeda to operate from safe havens along this country's frontier...


Rubbish as usual.

Totally expected.

Now be a good boy and read my response starting from post 68 of the other thread.

Never fear, Tosser, I'll be sure to give the mutterings and bloviations of a spoiled Pakistani lounge lizzard all the attention they merit. LOL.

mindprod.com

not for the faint hearted

A photo op indeed, but he is the POTUS.

More importantly, the families took heart in the fact the POTUS came to show his respects.

Post #106 follow up:

Pakistan has a long and proud history going back thousands of years. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant. Even in todays violent Islamist climate, Pakistanis fight to maintain a secular society affording as many freedoms to the people as security concerns may possibly allow.

(Just getting warmed up. And I didn't even throw up.)

When Bush did this, the left yelled "photo op!!!"

Where are those cries now?

hmmm....

129

During bush's tenure, flag draped caskets were not allowed, so wtf are you talking about genius?

should have read.....not allowed to be photographed or videoed...

(Just getting warmed up. And I didn't even throw up.)


Amazing.... and impressive.

Never fear, Tosser, I'll be sure to give the mutterings and bloviations of a spoiled Pakistani lounge lizzard all the attention they merit.


Translation:

Mommy! Tosser bugs me so! I can't stand it when he speaks the truth! I can't handle the truth mom! I can't!

What's up doc? LOL

the reaction to the troops in the USO when that story came on the news was awesome. the O is not popular with them.

Which poll is that scooter?

Here is the one that counted.

And for Obama to get 44% against a pow is mighty impressive, imo.


Dems get new crop of military voters

By PETER KAUFFMANN | 11/9/08 5:25 PM EST

An interesting subtext to John McCain's defeat last week is what it means for the future of the Republican Party with respect to veterans and military voters. With McCain facing a diminished role in the GOP, and Chuck Hagel retiring from the Senate, there are few prominent Republican leaders left with military bona fides. This is in stark contrast to the Democratic Party, which has seen the emergence of a new generation of veteran leaders.

In the past two election cycles, Democrats have added ten new Democratic veterans to Congress. Last week, President-elect Barack Obama helped close the gap among military voters, winning 44 percent of veterans as opposed to John F. Kerry's 41 percent in 2004.

To anyone who survived the bruising campaigns of the 1990's, the thought that the Republican Party would surrender its stranglehold on military voters seems unbelievable. But the reality is that this image was never more than surface deep. All those political operatives who seemed to care so deeply about the heroic service of Republican nominees in 1992 and 1996 thought nothing of denigrating and attacking the service of Al Gore and John Kerry when it was the Republican candidate who had avoided serving in Vietnam.

www.politico.com

Woke, my one and only issue with John Kerry is what he said to congress about his fellow soldiers.

It is the core reason I could not get behind him. It seemed opportunistic to me.

This boy-child of a president dithers and daudles while our troops are slaughtered because he refuses to make a decision about whether to send reinforcements or not. These reinforcements would already be in the pipeline if he had stepped up to the plate in August when additional troops were requested by the Generals.

He voted "present" in the Illinois legislature, he voted "present" in the U.S. Senate, and he is voting "present, absent without leave" when it comes to our troops. As a result, our young men are dying. Time to go golfing.

All this president REALLY cares about is "transforming" aka "destroying" our capitalist system and forcing us into a government run health care system where we will all suffer high taxes, rationed care, and --yes -- death panels telling us when to die by withholding treatment.

These reinforcements would already be in the pipeline

You mean Unocal's pipeline...

Sincerely,

Northgay's Wit

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