AP: Stimulus Jobs Overstated by Thousands

Thursday, October 29, 2009

The government has overstated by thousands the number of jobs it has created or saved with federal contracts under the president's $787 billion recovery program, according to an Associated Press review of data released in the program's first progress report. Some jobs credited to the stimulus program were counted two, three, four or even more times.

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Fuck dude, the whole "jobs saved" number is inflated as anything. They can say whatever the fuck they want with immunity.

#1 | Posted by andyuhenet at 2009-10-29 01:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well, this is because the stimulus hasn't had time to take affect yet.

It could be a year to a year and a half MORE before we see the affects of the stimulus.

That's why we had to pass it so quickly without reading it...because we needed relief then, immediately.

#2 | Posted by Axiom at 2009-10-29 04:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

If the stimulus gets any more effective, we'll be at 11% unemployment by next year. Yay, 'Bama!

#3 | Posted by cookfish at 2009-10-29 06:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Stimulus Jobs Overstated by Thousands

That's an understatement...

#4 | Posted by American1st at 2009-10-29 07:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

public optioin = truth for the public is optional

#5 | Posted by cookfish at 2009-10-29 08:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

The only area not supported through this money laundering process is small business where most of the jobs are created in this economy-- I have a feeling you're going to hear more talk about that area now, however, I wonder if it's now "a day late and a dollar short".

#6 | Posted by matsop at 2009-10-29 08:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

70% of the money has yet to be spent,wait for the 2010 elections and then you will see the pork being shoveled on the states they need to get elected.biden just doled out 569 million to del.to build a $48,000 electric car that nobody will buy.

#7 | Posted by semtex111 at 2009-10-29 08:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

What a fucking disgrace.

#8 | Posted by joe at 2009-10-29 08:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

#9 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 09:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Our Government lies??? What a surprize.

#10 | Posted by nutcase at 2009-10-29 09:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

i have over 200 resumes out with 0 calls back. i have military and civilian electronics training and an AA. not one call back. now my foot is broken i think and i don't have the money to get it checked. and of course no chance of finding a job that gives insurance for months. this whole thing has sure helped me out. thanks government! keep up the good work. at least your raise and vacation won't be interrupted, thats the most important thing.

#11 | Posted by sendeth at 2009-10-29 09:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

You won't get the typical cheerleaders within a hundred miles of this fucking thread...

#12 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2009-10-29 09:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

Bush made him piss away this money. -Gunga Din Sarvis

#13 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 09:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why even bother-it's hundreds of thousands per month jobs lost due to their incompetence/malice.

#14 | Posted by Liberty at 2009-10-29 09:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Come on... Don't you all remember the Admin. touting the fact they saved 30 thousand jobs in Michigan at a cost of hundreds of thousands each? They were proud of these short term jobs like cleaning up toxic waste and repainting some military bases.

#15 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-29 09:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

The real trick is to piss away trillions while getting thousands of American troops killed turning Iraq into an Iranian province, a la Chimpy.

#16 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2009-10-29 09:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

The real trick is to piss away trillions while getting thousands of American troops killed turning Iraq into an Iranian province, a la Chimpy.

#16 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Don't worry. Your boy is doing a fine job by substituting Afganistan.

#17 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 09:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Your boy is doing a fine job by substituting Afganistan.

#17 | Posted by wisgod

Regarding Afghanistan, aren't you forgetting when Chimpy pulled this whopper out of his Gannon-gaped ass back in'03?

Working with a fine coalition, our military went to Afghanistan, destroyed the training camps of al Qaeda and put the Taliban out of business forever."

www.laweekly.com

#18 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2009-10-29 09:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

2003? Yeah, let's talk about 2003, Obama Jr.

#19 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 09:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

#13 | Posted by wisgod | Flag: Limping

#20 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-10-29 09:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's not that there aren't jobs out there, it's that the first black president has inspired people not to work.

#21 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-10-29 09:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder if the architects of this "stimulus" laugh their asses off when they watch people talking talking about it on TV as if it weren't just another giant piece of pork for our politicians to shove up our asses.

#22 | Posted by Sully at 2009-10-29 09:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

If the federal government wasn't so stupid and incompetent, they wouldn't have to lie so much.

Ray's rule: government lying is in direct proportion to government failure.

#23 | Posted by Ray at 2009-10-29 09:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

This should give us a warm and fuzzy feeling about National Health Care, right David Axle...I mean Sarvis?

#24 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 10:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

last weekend in speech

ROEMER...the sweet looking older lady on budget stated that the stimulus had done all it was going to do.......

the white house was QUICK to get TAX CHEAT TIMMY out saying something else..

no surprise the nice old lady ROEMER hasnt been seen or heard from since.

#25 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-10-29 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

David Axle...I mean Sarvis?

#24 | Posted by wisgod

Get TF.... if I believed that for a second... no, there's just no way.

#26 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-10-29 10:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama should just double the size of the Federal government like Bush did. Poof, instant 500,000 jobs!

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2009-10-29 10:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama should just double the size of the Federal government like Bush did. Poof, instant 500,000 jobs!

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2009-10-29 10:37 AM | Reply | Flag
Yes indeed the real solution to overspending by Bush is to have the HNIC dwarf that spending...Left economics, thanks Stalin!

#28 | Posted by reinsurelaw at 2009-10-29 10:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

HNIC... haven't heard that one in a while!

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2009-10-29 10:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Obama should just double the size of the Federal government like Bush did. Poof, instant 500,000 jobs!"
#27 | Posted by snoofy

Do you have any data to back up this stupid statement? The data I hae seen shows the number of federal employees was lower in 2006 than 2001.

How did Bush double the size of government while reducing the number of employees?

www.data360.org

#30 | Posted by FreddyK at 2009-10-29 11:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

You know it's bad when the only spin the Obamaphiles can offer is a Bush deflection.

#31 | Posted by JOE at 2009-10-29 11:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama should just double the size of the Federal government like Bush did. Poof, instant 500,000 jobs!

#27 | Posted by snoofy at

damn son

quadrupling the deficit and debt isnt enough for you...lol

#32 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-10-29 11:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

You know it's bad when the only spin the Obamaphiles can offer is a Bush deflection.

#31 | Posted by JOE at 2009

oh please joe

NEW HERE......lol

#33 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-10-29 11:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

There is no evidence the White House sought to inflate job numbers in the report. But administration officials seized on the 30,000 figure as evidence that the stimulus program was on its way toward fulfilling the president's promise of creating or saving 3.5 million jobs by the end of next year.

You mean the hoping idiots in the Obama administration and the dogs that support him lapped up bull shit numbers to keep the warm feelings going? I'm shocked, I tell you.

#34 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-10-29 11:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

You mean the hoping idiots in the Obama administration and the dogs that support him lapped up bull shit numbers to keep the warm feelings going? I'm shocked, I tell you.

#34 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-10-29 11:34 AM |

Don't forget Corky on Drudge... Obama's biggest cheerleader. Who seems to be missing form this thread.

#35 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-10-29 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

"1 In 6 Stimulus Jobs' Does Not Exist"

"By the way, look at the kind of jobs the 'stimulus money' went to:

* 1,000 jobs in call centers fielding questions about television converter boxes,
* 25 jobs helping people make the conversion to digital TV.
* Money for raises for 129 at a child care center.

Indeed, there was only one job mentioned that sounded anything at all like the promised infrastructure improvements the 125 jobs created to lay railroad tracks."

sweetness-light.com

#36 | Posted by KBM at 2009-10-29 11:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

You know it's bad when the only spin the Obamaphiles can offer is a Bush deflection.

#31 | Posted by JOE

That's what happens when you parrot your Messiah.

#37 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 12:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Deflect all you want. I know you will because you don't like to discuss facts! Such as the FACT that Cristina Romer stated yesterday that the stimulus package would have almost all of it's effect in 2009, and it would peter out to nothing in 2010.

She described it as going from 0-60 when you put your foot down, and stalling when you take your foot off the gas!!!!

In testimony before the congressional Joint Economic Committee, Ms. Romer said the federal stimulus package will have its greatest effects this year and "will likely be contributing little to growth" by the middle of next year.

#38 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2009-10-29 03:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

JUAN WILLIAMS, NEWS ANALYST, NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO: I don't think there's any question. That that's the way I read it.

What struck me was the inconsistency in the message. The message for the longest time had been that the administration was careful with the stimulus money, not to roll it out too quickly.

Remember, there were arguments that it should have been put in place quickly to spur employment right away and they said, no, we don't want to risk that this money would be subject to corruption and spent on things that are useless. We want to know what we are doing and put it in place and it will really be rolling out during 2010.

So now to hear from Christina Romer, no, it has had its impact already, came to me as a surprise. I didn't know where is she off message, or is she simply playing the expectations game?

I will say this: I think for people on Wall Street, one of the reasons that Wall Street has been climbing is the general expectation that, yes, unemployment is going to persist, but we're going to have the stimulus money. It is going to help with this issue in 2010.

She undercut that message at this point.

#39 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2009-10-29 03:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

BAIER: Not only that message, but Valerie Jarrett, just four days before that, said we have only spent 40 percent and wait until you see what happens with the next 60 percent.

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: Well, look, the administration was trying to explain away for months why it spends almost $1 trillion and there is no effect. Our as numbers are showing obviously, increasing unemployment relentlessly.

So the line was, well, it's kicking in next year, it will all kick in next year. And now we get the chief economist at the White House telling us that it's already had its effect and next year it will plateau and won't have any effect on unemployment.

And you can only conclude that the stimulus is a bust. There's no other conclusion. If it didn't have its effect next year and it's not going to have an effect next year, then it had no effect and we wasted $1 trillion.

#40 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2009-10-29 03:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

"And you can only conclude that the stimulus is a bust. There's no other conclusion."

What a moronic conclusion. Without the overspending, we probably would be seeing unemployment closer to 15%.

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-29 03:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

And you wonder why people don't want government involved in managing health care.

The cost of "Cash for Clunkers" program cost taxpayers $24,000 per car sold.

www.autoblog.com

#42 | Posted by HopeyChangey at 2009-10-29 04:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Despite Obama's promises, stimulus contracts going to organizations who were egregious offenders of state and federal laws:

www.washingtonpost.com

#43 | Posted by HopeyChangey at 2009-10-29 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bush is not the president anymore mornon. Just keep supporting the number 1 fool - how's that hope and change for you!

#44 | Posted by Steve420 at 2009-10-29 04:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bush is not the president anymore mornon.

#44 | Posted by Steve420

#45 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2009-10-29 04:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Jobs in Stimulus Mirror are Much Smaller than They Appear"

"A Colorado company said it created 4,231 jobs with the help of President Barack Obama's economic recovery plan. The real number: fewer than 1,000.

A child care center in Florida said it saved 129 jobs with the help of stimulus money. Instead, it gave pay raises to its existing employees.

Elsewhere in the U.S., some jobs credited to the stimulus program were counted two, three, four or even more times.
...
The White House says it is aware there are problems. In an interview, Ed DeSeve, an Obama adviser helping to oversee the stimulus program, said agencies have been working with businesses that received the money to correct mistakes.

Other errors discovered by the public also will be corrected, he said.

"If there's an error that was made, let's get it fixed," DeSeve said."

wizbangblog.com

#46 | Posted by KBM at 2009-10-29 04:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

The cost of "Cash for Clunkers" program cost taxpayers $24,000 per car sold.

www.autoblog.com

#42 | Posted by HopeyChangey

I just heard this. Fucking amazing. And Healh Care is going to come in under the $900B number? Fucking bullshit!

#47 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 04:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

The cost of the Iraqi War, PART II will wind up costing the taxpayers $3,200,000,000,000.00 ($3.2 trillion) for each evil despotic leader killed.

Such a bargain!!!

#48 | Posted by axe at 2009-10-29 04:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ironically, a good health reform bill, if it passes, will go a long way to reducing the cost of the Iraqi war.

Lifelong heath care for the tens of thousands of US servicemen wounded in the war are projected to cost nearly $2 trillion. Substantially reducing future medical costs is a big goal of health care reform. Cost savings could result in a big drop in the real cost of the Iraqi war.

#49 | Posted by axe at 2009-10-29 04:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Goddamned pussies!!! In my day a soldier had the decency to die if he got shot. No lingering on and on and on costing the poor taxpayer out the ass. "

Chickenfucker

#50 | Posted by axe at 2009-10-29 05:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

I have to laugh at who posted this thread, it is far too hypocritical of his hacking.

#51 | Posted by moneywar at 2009-10-29 05:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

The cost of the Iraqi War, PART II will wind up costing the taxpayers $3,200,000,000,000.00 ($3.2 trillion) for each evil despotic leader killed.

Such a bargain!!!

#48 | Posted by axe

Let us know when you send in your check, dumb fuck.

#52 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

It is deducted from my paycheck every two weeks. I can't help it if you are a tax cheat and don't pay your share.

#53 | Posted by axe at 2009-10-29 05:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

I can't help it if you are a tax cheat and don't pay your share.

#53 | Posted by axe

I'll cheat every way I can. It gives me great satisfaction to know Chocolate Carter can't piss away what he doesn't get.

#54 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 05:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Washington D.C. just layed off a bunch of teachers. Because of the stumulus they didn't know until September that they were unemployed.

#55 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2009-10-29 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Job Saved for 3 months.

#56 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2009-10-29 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ain't that little o great?

#57 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-10-29 06:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

But the Libs totally trust the government when it is their boys and girls in office

#58 | Posted by bph320 at 2009-10-29 07:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Stimalus jobs overstated by thousands, some jobs credited to the stimalus program were counted two, three, four, or even more times....

Sounds like the same senario ACORN used in counting the election returns.
Habits are Hard to break ...

#59 | Posted by Dr_Feelgood at 2009-10-29 08:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Speaking of ACORN, I understand the Al from Minnesota was able to garner 40,000 votes from them--- I wonder how many of those were legitimate voters.

#60 | Posted by matsop at 2009-10-29 08:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good point, MATSOP. All they needed was the number... how many do we need? Then voila!

This overstating of stimulus jobs... Does this make anyone more (or less) trusting of the Obama administration when it tries to peddle its healthcare reform?

#61 | Posted by OohRah at 2009-10-29 09:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

The numbers are good enough for me.

What's the problems righties, he didn't get the number exact?

#62 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2009-10-29 09:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't worry. Your boy is doing a fine job by substituting Afganistan.

#17 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-29 09:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh....you mean the original war in which we were told that we would be going to kill Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden?

The Cheerleader-In-Chief sure seemed to have forgotten that place.

Face it, he let Afghanistan fester and become what it is today when he decided one war wasn't enough.

Thanks George!

#63 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2009-10-29 09:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

When are you fucking libs going to get off this blame Bush bullshit and realize that Obama and the liberal congress are spending this country down the tubes and really do not give a shit about what happens to our boys in Afghanistan. All they care about is doing what is most favorable for them in the polls! Obama can't make a decision because never has had to in the past. He just voted "present" anytime a tough vote was taken back when he was a senator. Obama is a bag of wind far left "empty suit" that can't hardly say two words without his teleprompter and this country is going to be screwed good by the time his 4 year term is up.

#64 | Posted by dougluvsgolf at 2009-10-29 10:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Flag: Limping

#20 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

You say your flag is limp?

#65 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-10-29 11:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Chocolate Carter can't piss away what he doesn't get.

#54 | Posted by wisgod

Hay!! Wake up and look at the spending he is doing without any income.

#66 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-10-29 11:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, this is because the stimulus hasn't had time to take affect yet.

It could be a year to a year and a half MORE before we see the affects of the stimulus.

That's why we had to pass it so quickly without reading it...because we needed relief then, immediately.

#2 | Posted by Axiom at 2009-10-29

since you usually are unware of these sorts of things
did you happen to catch clip of the talk from this ROEMER lady...a chief economic advisor
SHE SAID the stimulus had done all its going to do.

#67 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-10-30 10:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

and what was the cost figure of the 50k jobs they say were created...something like 74k wasnt it
but of course now we know another little bit

CASH FOR CLUNKERS costs US 24K PER CAR....

#68 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-10-30 10:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

OH YEAH

next week

unemployment predicted to hit the 10% mark.

remember the good old days when libs kept a day by day body count from iraq but now they dont seem to want to keep playing that little game of thiers on this issue.

#69 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-10-30 10:15 AM | Reply | Flag: