BLUSKY
...is a perfect example of a lying green.
We KNOW that societies that live "close to nature" have vastly higher incident of death to a host of things that simply don't kill people in developed nation. They have a much smaller percentage of old people, because fewer people live to be elderly. Just one example: Child Birth. Just one more example: The common regular flu.
Even in the best pre-modern societies, their overall life expectancy and overall health does not come close to ours, in spite of fat, cigarettes, polution, etc, etc.
How can I say that?
We live longer, and stay functional longer.
Not until a human society gets like North Korea or Zimbabwe does nature actually stack up significantly better. For the U.S. I'll take modern society even if I was cursed to live off fast food and smoke 2 packs a day (I don't smoke, but I do eat to much fast food, about one meal in six).
As for human violence, the BOTH Rousseau's "Noble Savage" and Hobbs' "Nasty, Brutish and short" are in error, but Hobbs is VASTLY closer to the truth.
#37 | Posted by USAF242 at 2009-10-29 09:50 AM
Bullshit. There is evidence of Mayans performing cranial surgeries. One skeleton lived into a ripe old age with seven of these surgeries performed in his youth. We can barely survive ONE.
Some humans have been using natural cures for many ailments since before we can find evidence of human existence, all across this planet. We learn and modify ourselves regarding our understanding of the resources around us.
To imagine that civilization doesn't evolve is ludicrous. It's also capable of de-evolution just the same, and that battle is ongoing. Above all influences a society endures hubris has to be the least attractive.
We know about the decades of starvation of Africans occurring even today, yet our own Congress provide weapons and influence to military dictators for oil and mineral "rights". Sickening, the lot of us.
Why do you imagine we are in Afghanistan?
