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Da Bears!


How 'bout them Cowboys?

When commodity prics go up during the Bush Administration, it's the evil speculatro's fault.

When commodity prices go up during the Obama Administration, it's a sign of recovery.

Those pesky ruskies - banning ads for fast food and colas to children:

english.pravda.ru

WAIT! Aren't the powers that by trying to do similar evil deeds right here in the USSA?

Just when you think that the police are uncaring, a story like this
comes along and helps to restore our faith.

Body found in the River

The Salem Police Department reports finding a man's body in the
Willamette River just west of the Marion Bridge. The dead man's name
will not be released until his family has been notified. The victim
apparently drowned due to excessive intoxication. He was wearing black
fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a strap-on sexual device, and an
Obama T-shirt. He also had a cucumber inserted in his rectum. The
police removed the Obama T-shirt to spare his family any unnecessary
embarrassment.

The AP (Associated Propagandists) are claiming the world is still warming even thought evereyone knows global warming stopped in 1998.

There are billions of dollars at stake. Some people are anticipating becomeing rich on carbon trading. Of course they are going to try to deny the truth. Lierals are good corporate stooges without even knowing it.


Tadowe Beats Up Mugger With 2-Liter Bottle Of Pepsi


www.huffingtonpost.com


Why can't the bankers and the evil banking cartels follow the fine example set by Madoff investors and just kill themselves?

BTW, still zero arrests, zero charges, zero convictions in the illegal banking activity that almost killed America.

And y'all thought seeing the Virgin Mary on a piece of toast was weird?:

english.pravda.ru

...yeah, I'm on a pravda kick today...

#5 - I may believe that if the cucumber were found in his mouth. You and your silliness!

BTW, still zero arrests, zero charges, zero convictions in the illegal banking activity that almost killed America.

#8 | Posted by Lipzoidial


Yep, Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd are still in Congress.


When commodity prices go up during the Obama Administration, it's a sign of recovery.


#3 | Posted by member2586

Well the Chinese are certainly not happy, after buying up our debt we are repaying them with Dollars that are worth less and less
It's all part of his strategy of hope and switch I mean Hope and change



By PATRICK GAVIN | 10/25/09 9:33 PM EDT
President Obama has already hit the links as much as President Bush did in over two years. | AP
ClosePresident Barack Obama has only been in office for just over nine months, but he's already hit the links as much as President Bush did in over two years.

CBS' Mark Knoller an unofficial documentarian and statistician of all things White House-related wrote on his Twitter feed that, "Today - Obama ties Pres. Bush in the number of rounds of golf played in office: 24.

Took Bush 2 yrs & 10 months."


This news comes on the heels of today's news that Obama played golf with a woman chief domestic policy adviser Melody Barnes for the first time since taking office.

FACT CHECK: Health insurer profits not so fat

Oct 25, 8:37 AM (ET)

By CALVIN WOODWARD
WASHINGTON (AP) - Quick quiz: What do these enterprises have in common? Farm and construction machinery, Tupperware, the railroads, Hershey sweets, Yum food brands and Yahoo? Answer: They're all more profitable than the health insurance industry. In the health care debate, Democrats and their allies have gone after insurance companies as rapacious profiteers making "immoral" and "obscene" returns while "the bodies pile up."

Ledgers tell a different reality. Health insurance profit margins typically run about 6 percent, give or take a point or two. That's anemic compared with other forms of insurance and a broad array of industries, even some beleaguered ones.

Profits barely exceeded 2 percent of revenues in the latest annual measure. This partly explains why the credit ratings of some of the largest insurers were downgraded to negative from stable heading into this year, as investors were warned of a stagnant if not shrinking market for private plans.

Insurers are an expedient target for leaders who want a government-run plan in the marketplace. Such a public option would force private insurers to trim profits and restrain premiums to compete, the argument goes. This would "keep insurance companies honest," says President Barack Obama.

The debate is loaded with intimations that insurers are less than straight, when they are not flatly accused of malfeasance.

They may not have helped their case by commissioning a report that looked primarily at the elements of health care legislation that might drive consumer costs up while ignoring elements aimed at bringing costs down. Few in the debate seem interested in a true balance sheet.

But in pillorying insurers over profits, the critics are on shaky ground. A look at some claims, and the numbers:

THE CLAIMS

_"I'm very pleased that (Democratic leaders) will be talking, too, about the immoral profits being made by the insurance industry and how those profits have increased in the Bush years." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., who also welcomed the attention being drawn to insurers'"obscene profits."

_"Keeping the status quo may be what the insurance industry wants their premiums have more than doubled in the last decade and their profits have skyrocketed." Maryland Rep. Chris Van Hollen, member of the Democratic leadership.

_"Health insurance companies are willing to let the bodies pile up as long as their profits are safe." A MoveOn.org ad.

THE NUMBERS:

Health insurers posted a 2.2 percent profit margin last year, placing them 35th on the Fortune 500 list of top industries. As is typical, other health sectors did much better - drugs and medical products and services were both in the top 10.

The railroads brought in a 12.6 percent profit margin. Leading the list: network and other communications equipment, at 20.4 percent.

HealthSpring, the best performer in the health insurance industry, posted 5.4 percent. That's a less profitable margin than was achieved by the makers of Tupperware, Clorox bleach and Molson and Coors beers.

The star among the health insurance companies did, however, nose out Jack in the Box restaurants, which only achieved a 4 percent margin.

UnitedHealth Group, reporting third quarter results last week, saw fortunes improve. It managed a 5 percent profit margin on an 8 percent growth in revenue.

Van Hollen is right that premiums have more than doubled in a decade, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation study that found a 131 percent increase.

But were the Bush years golden ones for health insurers?

Not judging by profit margins, profit growth or returns to shareholders. The industry's overall profits grew only 8.8 percent from 2003 to 2008, and its margins year to year, from 2005 forward, never cracked 8 percent

Yep, Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd are still in Congress.

#11 | Posted by member2586

Shame on you member, you know I am not one of those partisan hacks.

I couldn't care less if the whole of our government spontaneously combusted, demos and repubs alike.

At least there would be room for the young, aspiring criminals to get ahead, instead of the entrenched criminals that inhabit both sides of the aisle.


STFU everyone, I'm talking here.

Who has an Air Hockey table, what brand is it, and do you like it?
I'm buying one for a Christmas gift.

President Obama has already hit the links as much as President Bush did in over two years.

translation: wahh, wahh, waah...

Get back to us when he spends most of his time on vacation or getting beat up by pretzels. For the record, he has also spnt more time shooting hoops and less time falling off Segways than Dubya. Hasn't let guys with boxcutters gut the heart of an American city yet, but then again, he probably reads his briefings.

He was wearing black
fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a strap-on sexual device, and an
Obama T-shirt. He also had a cucumber inserted in his rectum.

Why in the world would Larry Craig be wearing an Obama shirt?

"Health insurers posted a 2.2 percent profit margin last year, placing them 35th on the Fortune 500 list of top industries. As is typical, other health sectors did much better - drugs and medical products and services were both in the top 10."

Oh, my heart bleeds for the poor insurance companies.

""Dollar Bill" has made lots of news with cash-and-stock paydays that have topped $100 million in recent years -- and he's still sitting atop stock options valued at $1.6 billion."

www.startribune.com

and

the fraction of revenue from a plan's premiums that goes to pay for medical services suggests that within the last 10 years, insurers have been spending less on medical care and more on administrative costs or profits:

wonkroom.thinkprogress.org

Since AFKABIBBLE2 isn't here to annoy you today, I was able to adjust my tin foil hat to his frequency and will be providing today's words of wisdom AFKABIBBLE2-style:

SECRECT ammendment to the 2 billion page health care reform bill that NOBODY will ever read, EVER is going to require DEATH PANELS to review every prescription issued by doctors. If the DEATH PANELS feel that a person is a drain on society, the person will be SENT TO THE ABATOIR to be made into CAT FOOD. Also, anyone found to have voted for a Republican anytime in the last 20 years will be cat food candidates.

Procedes from the sale of the cat food will be used to fund the health plan, making it revenue neutral. Any excess profits will be given to ACORN to purchase GUNS for ILLEGAL ALIENS.


Hmmm, defending as industry that is a legal monopoly and that reminds people's health coverage to get bonuses. Nice!

Question is 8 percent of what?

"But as NPR's All Things Considered points out the group's "fact check" is itself misleading, since insurers are measuring their profits against total health care spending, not company revenues. "All that statement says is, if you eliminated all our [insurance company] profits, national health spending in America would be 1 percent lower. It has meaning only in that context," health care economist Uwe Reinhardt explains. Within the context of companies' revenues, insurers skim off 15-20 percent of premium dollars for administrative costs and profits. In fact, an examination of insurers' medical loss ratio the fraction of revenue from a plan's premiums that goes to pay for medical services suggests that within the last 10 years, insurers have been spending less on medical care and more on administrative costs or profits:

Moreover, a report by Families USA found that "insurers in the individual market sometimes maintain medical loss ratios of only 60%, retaining 40% of premium dollars for administration, marketing and profit." "For the 10 biggest insurers in the year 2006 (the year the insurers used for the 1 cent out of every dollar depiction above), profits were anywhere from 2 to 10 percent, or two to 10 pennies on the dollar. That's two to 10 times as much as what the insurance industry group suggests in its illustrations."

The top five earning insurance companies averaged profits of $1.56 billion in 2008 and reported spending an average of "more than 18 percent of their revenues on marketing, administration, and profits." That year, CEO compensation for these companies ranged from $3 million to $24 million." Below is a partial list of insurer/CEO profits

wonkroom.thinkprogress.org

"Who has an Air Hockey table, what brand is it, and do you like it?"

I bought one for my grandkids a couple years ago. They loved it, for about six months then forgot it. I don't know what brand it was, I got it at Toys R Us. Of course though, those kids have most of the electronic gadgets available including Play Station, Wii, etc. so I wasn't surprised when they tired of such primitive entertainment.

RECINDS people's health coverage to get bonuses. Nice!

It's no wonder Danni. Toy R Us sells chink junk.

I read the new Saw movie is playing the game now with the victims of the latest all being involved in an insurance company that Jigsaw blames for his condition.

How do you insurance company defenders feel about the fact that companies are legally allowed to collude with each other to manipulate monopolies and price fixing, while virtually all other industries are prohibited from doing so???

Why do 45 of 50 states have only one or two major health insurers??? Because they make sure that's how it is by divying up the country between themselves.

"It's no wonder Danni. Toy R Us sells chink junk."

Who doesn't though??
BTW, there was nothing wrong with the table, they just got tired of playing it. It's still in their garage, plug it in it works fine. I hate to say it, but those kids are a tad spoiled.

101, stick with Valley. Bar room quality.
www.dazadi.com|2359745588&gclid=CKjbs9if250CFRHxDAodYn_trw

Reminds me of a Mitch Hedberg joke:

I saw a 30 second commercial for an above ground pool. The reason it was only 30 seconds long is because that is exactly how long you can depict someone having fun in an above ground pool.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2009-10-26 12:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

It kills me that they think their "bottom line" or margin argument holds any water. It's such a transparent camouflage of numbers that you'd think even the dumbest righty would see through it...apparently not.


"It's no wonder Danni. Toy R Us sells chink junk."


Who doesn't though??


China.

Want to hear something funny Kanrei, my daughter just had the biggest above ground pool I've seen put in her back yard and I don't doubt for a minute that it will work out just like you say.
They'll use it for a while then get bored and want something else.

It will be used daily for short periods of cooling off, but not for swimming I will bet.


Patriots: 1-0 (Internationally)

Conservatives Maintain Edge as Top Ideological Group

Ooh look! It's not Rasmussen.

www.gallup.com

-you'd think even the dumbest righty would see through it...apparently not.


"What we see depends mainly on what we look for." -John Lubbock


How do you insurance company defenders feel about the fact that companies are legally allowed to collude with each other to manipulate monopolies and price fixing, while virtually all other industries are prohibited from doing so???


Why do 45 of 50 states have only one or two major health insurers??? Because they make sure that's how it is by divying up the country between themselves.

#26 | Posted by danni


How do you political party defenders feel about the fact that parties are legally allowed to collude with each other to manipulate monopolies and price fixing, while virtually all other industries are prohibited from doing so???


Why do 45 of 50 states have only one or two major political parties??? Because they make sure that's how it is by divying up the country between themselves.



From San Francisco Gate:

"LA man arrested in death of his unborn child"
www.sfgate.com

What happened to the liberals' insistence of using the word "fetus" for the unborn child?

What happened to the liberals' insistence of using the word "fetus" for the unborn child?


dunno. why do so many pro-lifers support the death penalty and pre-emptive war?

Pre-emptive war - Strike first, Strike hard, may not need to strike again.

Death Penalty- Justice.

Abortion - majority of reasons hold no medical judgment.

The good of the many outweighs the few or the one.

Pre-emptive war - Strike first, Strike hard, may not need to strike again.

Then again, as in Iraq, there was no need to strike at all. Of course striking Iraq required ignoring the fact that al queda's biggest base was next door, in saudistan and that Dubya's best buddy Prince Bandar Bush financed some of the 9-11 attackers.

The needs of the Bushies outweighs the rest.


Pre-emptive war - Strike first, Strike hard, may not need to strike again.

So you support the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Interesting view.

Death Penalty- Justice.

Dying is easy--prison is hard. Some killed are innocent. Death penalty costs more than life in prison.

Abortion - majority of reasons hold no medical judgment.

So? It still isn't any of your business. You will still whine about welfare, and educating the children of parents who didn't want them and couldn't afford them in the first place.

The good of the many outweighs the few or the one.

WTF are you talking about---that doesn't make any sense at all. How about an example.

#40 | Posted by Petrous at 2009-10-26 02:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

What happened to the liberals' insistence of using the word "fetus" for the unborn child?

#38 | Posted by KBM at 2009-10-26 02:01 PM | Reply | Flag

It is called a fetus because that is what it is. There is no such thing as an unborn child. Children are born. Is an oak tree seed called an unborn oak tree---or an acorn. Is a pre-hatched chicken called an unborn chicken or is it called an egg? If you can't defend fetal rights, you have no defense.

Whoever wrote the article you reference was no liberal---or journalist. They didn't even call the suposed 13 week old fetus an unborn child---they called it a child.

On this day October 26, 2009:

"Obama Says He Will Not 'Rush' Decision on Afghanistan Strategy, Troop Levels"
www.foxnews.com

ROFLMAO!!!!

Bwaaaaahahahahahahaha

"Obama Says He Will Not 'Rush' Decision on Afghanistan Strategy, Troop Levels"
www.foxnews.com

ROFLMAO!!!!

Bwaaaaahahahahahahaha

#44 | Posted by KBM at 2009-10-26 03:59 PM | Reply | Flag:


....yet Dickless Cheney had troop requests on his desk, untouched, for 8 months.

...but that's different, right?

Just for the record, Mother Teresa was a corrupt old hag who loved and glorified human suffering.

Profiling?:

news.yahoo.com


Just for the record, Mother Teresa was a corrupt old hag who loved and glorified human suffering.

#46 | Posted by nullifidian


Did BBob hijack your handle?

:-)

"Just for the record, Mother Teresa was a corrupt old hag who loved and glorified human suffering."

I hope you were kidding Null.

Mother Teresa was the epitome of selflessness. She sacrificed herself to help those who suffered.

She is an inspiration.

"I hope you were kidding Null."

No I wasn't. Let me repeat it. Mother Teresa loved human suffering. She fetishized it, wallowed in it. Christopher Hitchens exposed that corrupt old hag in quite convincing detail.

Christopher Hitchens is your source regarding Mother Teresa???

LOL

He's an atheist for heavens sake!!! He has no respect for anything spiritual least of all someone who has dedicated herself to living a Christlike life!!!

Hitchens is hardly an unbiased source for anything much less this subject!!

Feel free to believe his nonsense.

Her life has proven to be a life of giving, helping and loving. She was an amazing humanitarian.

BTW Null, it wouldn't take much "convincing" for an atheist to believe another atheist.

Christopher Hitchens is your source regarding Mother Teresa???

LOL

He's an atheist for heavens sake!!! "


Oh my fucking god! Did I cite an atheist! *slaps my forehead* What was I thinking in citing an atheist rather than some dumbass who prays to invisible supernatural deities? Sorry.

Oh my fucking god! Did I cite an atheist! *slaps my forehead* ....

#53 | Posted by nullifidian


No surprise all you atheistic, heartless heathens would stick together. lol

Well Null, this "dumbass" won't continue this conversation when you hurl insults.


Well Null, this "dumbass" won't continue this conversation when you hurl insults.


Fine by me, bible thumper.


Fine by me, bible thumper.

#56 | Posted by nullifidian

Are you absolutely sure this is the way Dale Carnagie said to do it?

"Are you absolutely sure this is the way Dale Carnagie said to do it?"

LOL Lip

It doesn't matter. For some reason I don't think most people who come here care about winning friends and influencing people!!

"WAIT! Aren't the powers that by trying to do similar evil deeds right here in the USSA?"

Why do you _want_ advertisers to sell their shit to impressionable small children? (The FTC fucked this up in 1984, I think it was.) And what powers that be are trying to change that?

"Her life has proven to be a life of giving, helping and loving. She was an amazing humanitarian. "

Lisa, my friend, wasn't Mother Theresa a Catholic? Didn't you assert to me the other day that Catholics follow and teach false doctrine? In which case she's going to hell? I'm sorry--that sounded snarky and combative. But my question stands. Mother Theresa was a Catholic, right? And you support her? (Note: I don't stand for Null's attack. But nor would I dismiss HItchens's comments on a Christian person just because he's an atheist.)

Prag:

Mother Teresa was indeed a Catholic.

And unlike most Catholics, she lived a Christlike life.

What I was refering to Prag, are the Catholic man made laws that actually go against Scripture....and never said that individual Catholics would be going to hell.

What that woman did was amazing! She knew the true meaning of Christianity.

Outside of Jesus, she is one that I truely admire and I have no doubt she is sitting in Glory at this very moment!!

As far as dismissing Hitchens opinions...yes, I do dismiss them.

Take a look around this site on any Christian bashing thread...and heaven knows there are lots of them. Atheists will only look to criticize what they hate. They do not give any credit when someone of faith does anything good...and find ways to find fault in it.

Any time someone claims to do something in the name of God or Jesus and it's a bad thing, they blame religion, they blame all religions and they blame all those who follow it. No one is seperate from that incident.

If they were to admit that something good was done in the name of religion, they would also have to admit that that religion would be good because they have proven they can't seperate individual by individual, religion by religion....they are all hated.



they are all hated.

#60 | Posted by Lisa


Well said, Lisa.

I can't speak for all the other religion bashers on here, but I know for me, 'YOUR RELIGION' is not the problem. The problem for me is that most religious people feel driven and have some obsessive desire to convert me. And I reject the whole religious thing out-of-hand. I was raised a christian, but i reject christianity as naturally and as gleefully as you accept it.

The religious extremists have found such comfort and joy in their beliefs, that they feel that if only they tell others about it, then that person will turn from their wicked ways and immediately get in line. I'm not big on 'getting in line' either. The wonderful words attributed to Jesus are some of the most philosophically and socially redeeming words ever written, and I feel the religions have corrupted them for political purposes, just like the church has always done. Same thing happened with the muslims and the jewish faiths.

When your religion is your religion, in other words, you keep it to yourself, I wouldn't say a word, but as soon as your start telling some mystical tale about how scientific things happen, you are only inviting debate and derision.

BTW, a whale cannot swallow a man because his throat is only 1 inch in diameter. And the original biblical test does not say Mary was a virgin.

Just heard Orielly say that FOX NEWS is the most influential News Organization in the World, for Fuck sake is this Fuck stealing Limbaughs Medicine or what!!!!! Orielly has an audience of 5,000,000 PEOPLE somebody should tell this clown that this is a Country of 360,000,000 PEOPLE. This Ignorant fuck an his Fox-Republican News has an audience of little over 1% OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. Little EGO run amok or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Little EGO run amok or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Kind of like your "!" key running amok?

That aside, I believe he is comparing apples and apples, i.e. Fox v other cable news. Any other comparision would be meaningless, except to a mindless shill.

Well Fox News is influential over you, Cel.

"I can't speak for all the other religion bashers on here, but I know for me, 'YOUR RELIGION' is not the problem."

Well, thank you Lip. I appreciate that.

"The problem for me is that most religious people feel driven and have some obsessive desire to convert me."

I don't try and convert anyone. God knows who will accept Him and who will not. If HE calls someone towards Him, He will. There is nothing within me personally that could do what God does.

I have never started a thread on spirituality and have only defended my religion in the past against those who blame it for everything under the sun including diaper rash, and those who misuse Scripture.

"... i reject christianity as naturally and as gleefully as you accept it."

Well, that is your choice, your decision.

"The religious extremists have found such comfort and joy in their beliefs, that they feel that if only they tell others about it, then that person will turn from their wicked ways and immediately get in line."

Lip, we are all sinners, we are all "out of line". Not one is any better than the other.

" The wonderful words attributed to Jesus are some of the most philosophically and socially redeeming words ever written"

Amen to that!!! : )

" and I feel the religions have corrupted them for political purposes, just like the church has always done. Same thing happened with the muslims and the jewish faiths. "

Most Religions have picked and choosen what they wish to follow, create their own interpretation or have flat out created man made laws within their religion that do not follow Scripture all for their own agenda, certainly not God's agenda. I acknowledge that and speak out against it.

My church is an independent Bible Church. No man made laws, no rules outside of what Scripture instructs of us. We follow the Bible, nothing more, nothing less.

"When your religion is your religion, in other words, you keep it to yourself, I wouldn't say a word, but as soon as your start telling some mystical tale about how scientific things happen, you are only inviting debate and derision."

Here's my opinion, Lip.....you differ from other atheists because you don't start the bashing....just like I don't start the preaching. You join in when someone starts the preaching, I have joined in to defend against the bashing. I am entitled to my beliefs as are those who don't believe.

BTW....Call it mystical if you wish, I call it miraculous. I believe all things are possible with God.

"BTW, a whale cannot swallow a man because his throat is only 1 inch in diameter. And the original biblical test does not say Mary was a virgin."

How do you know that a whale in those times was equal to a whale in today's times?

And I do believe that prior to Jesus, Mary was a virgin...for a number of reasons.

But again, you are entitled to your opinion and beliefs.

As I stated before, I'm not here to "convert" anyone.

Thanks for the discussion!!!

"And I do believe that prior to Jesus, Mary was a virgin...for a number of reasons. "

Prior to Jesus? What does that mean?

And Lisa, can you give me three examples in support of this? "What I was refering to Prag, are the Catholic man made laws that actually go against Scripture...."

I'm not picking on you; I really want to know what you mean? It's been a long time since I read Scripture. (And I don't believe in Heaven or Hell.)

"Take a look around this site on any Christian bashing thread...and heaven knows there are lots of them. Atheists will only look to criticize what they hate. They do not give any credit when someone of faith does anything good...and find ways to find fault in it. "

I can't agree with this. You're painting with a very broad brush, almost what you accuse others of doing. Atheists are no more of a monolothic state of mind than are Christians. I know plenty of atheists who assume none of this about Christians, or about other believers, and who don't hate religionists. I might even conclude that the atheists I know are less judgmental than the religionists I know. But then, among my friends, judgment and hatred of the kind you mention is pretty much nonexistent. Please try not to be so harsh; I understand why you feel that way, especially about the bashers here, but you need to know that this is not true of all those who have no faith or religion. (I'm an atheist, though I sometimes want to believe in something. Do you believe these things of me? Rhetorical--I know you don't.)

Btw, illustrating my point about stridency of posters here (posted on yesterday's nooner), I have asked Nanc at least two questions today and yesterday, couched in calm, rational language, and she has not deigned to respond.

Where may they be, prag. I was not here most of yesterday into the evening or much today - leave them here and I'll check back later.

From:directorblue.blogspot.com

"My $1,000 Fox News Challenge to Lefties: Document Just One Lie"

There are just four simple rules:

Typos don't qualify ("ooh, the news ticker used a 'D' after his name, not an 'R'!").

The lie must have been repeated by at least two national Fox News reporters and left uncorrected.

The transcripts and/or video clips must be available on the Fox News website for verification.

The story, refuting the Fox News lie, must have been correctly reported by news reporters from CNN and MSNBC (with links and/or transcripts from their sites).

Just one lie! That's all I'm asking for. This should be easiest $1,000 you've ever made, libs. Just post your answer in the comments section along with your email address before November 3, 2009.

And given the devaluation of our currency by President Training Wheels, the Kruggerand could be worth $1,500 next week."

Thanks for playing along, Nanc. ; ) (Just tryin' to prove me wrong, eh? : ) )

One was a set of questions in response to the 7 Lies video of Obama. I forget where you posted that. It might have been yesterday's nooner, which appears to be gone now.

The other was, dammit, now I don't remember. I'll look. Ah. It was a response to your #3:

You said: "WAIT! Aren't the powers that by trying to do similar evil deeds right here in the USSA?"

And I said: Why do you _want_ advertisers to sell their shit to impressionable small children? (The FTC fucked this up in 1984, I think it was.) And what powers that be are trying to change that?

Oh yeah, in the third one, I was picking on you. That was uncharitable of me, but I found myself irked again by your pet name for President Obama. So let's stick with the serious questions. : )

I think there was a third question, but I can't remember what it was.

Oh, here's what I wrote about the 7 Lies video:

Critics will take this as defense, but I'm just going to ask three questions:

1. Was the Brandeis citation a lie or simply an inaccuracy?

2. Are campaign promises really promises, or are they declarations of intent? (If the latter, reality often gets in the way, no? Naivet and lying are not the same thing.)

3. Has anyone created a similar video for George Bush or Ronald Reagan?

Just wondering.

+++++

I found that one by mistake. I was actually looking to see if KBM (I think it was KBM) ever answered my question about some stats showing all the six-figure-salaried college professor.

I gotta go do the dishes. Otherwise, the wife will kick my ass when she gets up in the morning. Hell, she does all the work gettin' the lads ready in the a.m--it ain't too much to ask me to do the dishes. : )

"Prior to Jesus? What does that mean?"

Mary had other children after she gave birth to Jesus.

"And Lisa, can you give me three examples in support of this? "What I was refering to Prag, are the Catholic man made laws that actually go against Scripture...."

You want Scripture that shows what Catholics practice go against Scripture??

Sure!

Let's start with praying to others, as in Mary, their "Saints":

John 14:6: 6 "Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me."

Why pray to anyone to "intercede" if Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father?? Why?? Man Made Law. No where in Scripture does it say to pray TO anyone else!

How about not allowing priests to marry or not eating meat during Lent?

1st Timothy 4:1-5: "Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."

Man Made Law!!! CLEARLY...it says they DEPART from faith when not allowing marriage or eating of meat.

That's just two because I am short on time at the moment.

"I'm not picking on you"

I'm not taking it that way, so it's all good.

However, I need to get going. And as I mentioned earlier, I'm not going to be discussing this stuff often here anymore. I responded to you and to Lip because you both have been very kind in your comments to me.

If you wish to continue this, you can email me. My email is listed in my contact information. I don't mind answering your questions, but I'm trying to not get into these discussions here anymore and will only discuss this privately as Scripture has warned us not to throw the Word before people who want only to trample on it. I'm not happy with myself that I responded tonight twice now, but...I'm not perfect!! : )

So...feel free to email. I am more than willing to discuss it there.

Thanks for the discussion and have a great night.

Oh, and BTW....I'm not responsible for what Nanc says or doesn't say. Sorry, can't help you there.

Thanks for taking the time, Lisa. I have always had a problem with the idea of an intercessionary. Seems to me that God wouldn't need someone to speak for him.

I might e-mail you one day, when I have more time myself. In the meantime, I hope you will think about what I said about atheists. We are not all the same, anymore than all Christians, or all Muslims, or all Buddhists, are the same.

And I certainly didn't mean to imply any responsibility for Nanc. Separate point. : )

Thanks for playing along, Nanc. ; ) (Just tryin' to prove me wrong, eh? : ) ) ruh?

One was a set of questions in response to the 7 Lies video of Obama. I forget where you posted that. It might have been yesterday's nooner, which appears to be gone now. double-ruh?

The other was, dammit, now I don't remember. I'll look. Ah. It was a response to your #3:

You said: "WAIT! Aren't the powers that by trying to do similar evil deeds right here in the USSA?"

And I said: Why do you _want_ advertisers to sell their shit to impressionable small children? (The FTC fucked this up in 1984, I think it was.) And what powers that be are trying to change that?

Apparently you've not heard about the new taxes they're trying to institute in certain states on "convenience" foods and drinks? It's MY job to decide what my children eat - NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S!

Oh yeah, in the third one, I was picking on you. That was uncharitable of me, but I found myself irked again by your pet name for President Obama. So let's stick with the serious questions. : )

I believe this was answered sufficiently.

I think there was a third question, but I can't remember what it was.

Well, well, well...Who do you think I am? Nostradumbass?

Oh, here's what I wrote about the 7 Lies video:

Critics will take this as defense, but I'm just going to ask three questions:

1. Was the Brandeis citation a lie or simply an inaccuracy? I do not wrestle with intent.

2. Are campaign promises really promises, or are they declarations of intent? (If the latter, reality often gets in the way, no? Naivet and lying are not the same thing.) "I promise to right by you if you get pregnant...""I'm from the government and am here to help you.""The check is in the mail."

3. Has anyone created a similar video for George Bush or Ronald Reagan? Do you have access to the internets?

Just wondering.

+++++

I found that one by mistake. I was actually looking to see if KBM (I think it was KBM) ever answered my question about some stats showing all the six-figure-salaried college professor.

I gotta go do the dishes. Otherwise, the wife will kick my ass when she gets up in the morning. Hell, she does all the work gettin' the lads ready in the a.m--it ain't too much to ask me to do the dishes. So, you're a domestic engineer? COOL! So am I - although my husband would never threaten me with harm if the dishes weren't done. *;] : )

#71 | Posted by pragmatist

You all warm and fuzzy now, prag?

Incidentally, prag - one of my blogpartners is an athiest - one of the finest people I know.

"Apparently you've not heard about the new taxes they're trying to institute in certain states on "convenience" foods and drinks? It's MY job to decide what my children eat - NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S!"

Ah, sin taxes. I like them, but I can also see the argument against them. Regardless, that's quite different from the advertising issue you brought up. Do you think that impressionable young people--children, like five-year-olds--should be advertised to? I thought that's what the cited article was about. I can see how you put the two together, given your apparent feelings about gov't interference, but they're not the same. (The history of this is actually pretty interesting. Look up FTC and the history of advertising to children.)

And I guess you missed my second post tonight.

Oh, here's what I wrote about the 7 Lies video (the one showing candidate Barack Obama telling 7 lies in a minute or something--was that not you who posted that?):

Critics will take this as defense, but I'm just going to ask three questions:

1. Was the Brandeis citation a lie or simply an inaccuracy?

2. Are campaign promises really promises, or are they declarations of intent? (If the latter, reality often gets in the way, no? Naivet and lying are not the same thing.)

3. Has anyone created a similar video for George Bush or Ronald Reagan?

Good night.

Dunno about warm and fuzzy, but I got the dishes done. Now I have to review my teaching notes for class tomorrow. And no, I"m not a domestic engineer (ha)--or not full-time--but I do have certain duties that might fall under that position. I'm glad that you don't hold that atheists are awful people. (And in fairness to Lisa, maybe that's not what she meant. Maybe she didn't mean to use the broad brush. Hi, Lisa, if you're still reading.)

Prag - Just know that I have no fear of questions directed at me - sometimes I don't see them and would never intentionally ignore pointed questions, even if to say, "I don't know!".

I am a "housewife/mother" and take my role seriously - since my husband is the sole breadwinner, don't like to see him doing chores after a 10-12 hour day, 5-6 days per week. When I was working, that was another story.

p.s. - buy a dishwasher! Now, I MUST be off to pack HIS lunch - why? Because it saves us about $150. per month and makes him feel special!

Don't you hate it when you go to take a leak and have it aimed squarely in the bowl and that 'split stream' thing happens?

Hell yes!

You just gotta power through it, man.

Speaking of piss, "Curb Your Enthusiasm" was freakin' hilarious this week. Larry David is pulling out all the stops before calling it quits.

Andy's right. You gotta double back and bear down.

Andy's right. You gotta double back and bear down.

But if that doesn't correct it, you've only made a bigger mess. And it's worse for me because I am tall and the two streams are quite a distance apart by the time they get to toilet level.

I try to bend my knees to get closer to the pot. Usually by that time the situation has corrected itself, though.

No I wasn't. Let me repeat it. Mother Teresa loved human suffering. She fetishized it, wallowed in it. Christopher Hitchens exposed that corrupt old hag in quite convincing detail.

#50 | Posted by nullifidian


You just hate her because she took it upon herself to help others in lieu of championing government as the sole source of "charity" via its confiscatory powers.

"If you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie and wipe the seatie."

Sign on a bathroom wall.

That's gay. Besides, the seat should be up.

I am rolling on the floor, TwinPac.

I had never heard that before.

Jesus.

Did you come up with that all by your lonesome?

Somebody needs to come up with a little Cracker Barrel-type, folksy needlepoint accent piece to place in bathrooms across America.

You could make a million dollars!

"If you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie and wipe the seatie."

Sign on a bathroom wall.

The sign on a real man's bathroom is the obligatory:

Here I sit, broken hearted
Came to shit, but only farted.

Nothing about sweeties or seaties. LOL

My grandmother used to say "tinkle". What a goofy word.

I think related this anecdote here, but it's still funny. I had a dishwasher installed several years ago by a big bruiser looking of a guy. He was telling the the virtues of it, including how quiet it was. He said, "It just barely sounds like someone tinkling". It was all I could do to keep from laughing, seeing this 250 lb man with hairy arms and tattoos say "tinkle". LOL

... and that 'split stream' thing happens?


It comes out both sides? Doesn't make sense how that could happen but, well, nevermind.

CHRIS

When I lived at the nudist resort there was an Egyptian tourist who had two fully formed penises.

And was quite proud of it, too.

He could "tinkle" out of both. (Sorry Goatman)

...one of my blogpartners is an athiest - one of the finest people I know.

#76 | Posted by nanc at 2009-10-26 10:53 PM


What is a "blogpartner"?

One writes the post and the other one supplies the links and you both work in tandem on one post? Or you both will always back each other up on a thread (if, say, someone else gives either one of you a hard time)? Or is it when one posts something and the "blogpartner" is there to jump in and agree with a follow-up post of their own?

Seriously, I never heard the term "blogpartner" before. I know there are a few posters on here who will always fall into lockstep with a certain few other posters as they all share the same exact political opinions. And a lot of people on here have "blogging buddies." But until now I've never heard the term where one poster is considered to be someone else's actual "blogpartner."

Or maybe you meant having an actual blog of your own (where other people come to post on it) and you and your "blogparter" are both responsible for running that blog together?

First time I've ever seen a "let's beat up on Mother Theresa" thread. I mean how can anyone accuse her of "faking" helping the poor, the sick, and the dying when she lived right there among them in that humid hellhole Bangladesh?

What did Mother Theresa get out of it herself? Spots on the morning tv talk shows? Fame and fortune and two vacation homes? Her own Lear jet? Hell, no.

The woman was truly a saint. Nuns are suppose to take vows of poverty and to give solace to the sick and help the poor but, come on, Mother Theresa rolled up her sleeves and walked the walk when it came to getting in there and helping the destitute and dying.

Mother Theresa, died in 1997 at the age of 97.

She was beatified by the Pope on October 20, 2003.

Sainthood!

When I see some of the folks around here "walk on water", so to speak, I'll reconsider their right to bash.

Until then, well, I guess I'm safe.

"My grandmother used to say "tinkle". What a goofy word."

Which reminds me, maybe because I just read the Family Guy thread, of the PTV episode, wherein the FCC starts censoring real life. A guy walks into a bathroom and starts to whiz. A man appears next to him and says something like "Only two shakes" (implying an old joke). The pisser says, "Thank you, Tinkle Fairy!" Make me giggle every time.

Oh, yeah, the "Fellas at the Freakin' FCC" musical number is fuckin' fantastic, too.

(It occurs to me that some posters here take seriously the fear that the FCC could interfere in real life...)

Oh, on Mother Theresa, I have heard before the argument that she was somehow self-serving. I didn't get it then, and I don't get it now.

The zoo has an African Lion.

The White House has a lyin' African.

"Oh, on Mother Theresa, I have heard before the argument that she was somehow self-serving. I didn't get it then, and I don't get it now."

Her goal was not to relieve suffering, but to teach how to endure it, because suffering is a way to heaven. Many people consider this philosophy a waste considering her notoriety. She was in a position to campaign for real change and she passed it by.

Thank you, Hag, for the clarity of presentation, though I'm not sure if you then agree that she was somehow self-serving, or if you even agree with those who argue that point. : ) (Which is one of the things I like about you, btw.)

#95 | Posted by CalifChris - It is a person who shares a blog with another - he and I are as different as night and day. I love him - he is also a recovering leftist. He also has his own blog, as do I. Pure brilliance, coupled with the ability to create the best photo-shops - I HIT THE JACKPOT, BABY!

though I'm not sure if you then agree that she was somehow self-serving, or if you even agree with those who argue that point. : ) (Which is one of the things I like about you, btw.)
#102 | Posted by pragmatist

I'm trying not to take a stand on that issue, but I can see how someone can come to the self serving opinion, especially if you are not a Catholic, or at the very least, some lower order of Christian.

From a RC point of view, I think she's being entirely consistent with the catechism. The lesson of the Garden is that we must suffer through this life because of Original Sin. From outside that point of view, maybe I might argue that she'd been self serving, but I believe that what you do for people here and now is as important if not more so than what you do to prepare people for what you believe will come hereafter. Which is part of why I can't call myself a Christian.


Since AFKABIBBLE2 isn't here to annoy you today, I was able to adjust my tin foil hat to his frequency and will be providing today's words of wisdom AFKABIBBLE2-style:


#20 | Posted by axe at 2009-


go fuck yourslef

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