He's right, the rest of the msm has been parroting the bs propaganda seen on faux neocon network since the 2000 election.

That being said, the idea that bush didn't also blacklist actual journalists as well as entire networks is laughable.

Perino admits the Bush administration essentially froze out MSNBC towards the end.'
As part of the ongoing White House v. Fox News battle, Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace complained yesterday that "as they've done every week since August, the White House refused to make any administration officials available to FOX News Sunday.'" On Fox and Friends this morning, host Brian Kilmeade tried to paint a contrast between the Obama administration and the Bush administration, telling former Bush press secretary Dana Perino, "not only did you not go after" networks critical of Bush, "you gave them interviews, as did the president." Perino corrected him, however, saying that "towards the end," the Bush administration largely froze out MSNBC

thinkprogress.org

And msnbc wasn't calling the president a racist, commie, socialist whose going to put your grandma to death, eh?
Just daring to question the failed policies that led to the disasters Obama now faces daily.

Interesting how quickly all the rwrs do a 180 on all these issues, once they are no longer the majority party.

Can you explain why it's appropriate for the White House to decide that a news organization is not one?

Uh, sure. They went to court to prove they aren't a "news" organization and have the right to LIE and DISTORT.

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

#17
Debunk it wisbang......AS IF...eh?

I bet people would have gone ape-shit if Bush had ever made this kinda statement about MSNBC or CBS.

#26 | POSTED BY GOTTRUTH AT 2009-10-21 09:14 AM

Right, well, apparently Obama is a little more HONEST about it than bush was, eh?

Perino admits the Bush administration essentially froze out MSNBC towards the end.'
As part of the ongoing White House v. Fox News battle, Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace complained yesterday that "as they've done every week since August, the White House refused to make any administration officials available to FOX News Sunday.'" On Fox and Friends this morning, host Brian Kilmeade tried to paint a contrast between the Obama administration and the Bush administration, telling former Bush press secretary Dana Perino, "not only did you not go after" networks critical of Bush, "you gave them interviews, as did the president." Perino corrected him, however, saying that "towards the end," the Bush administration largely froze out MSNBC
thinkprogress.org

Bush also personally blackballed particular journalists who dared actually question his lies and misinformation....

Personally, I prefer the transparency in our govt.....

Anyone ever recall ANY msm network call bush racist or say he will kill your grandma?

links?

And your's in Daily Kos. So fucking what, dummy?

#39 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2009-10-21 09:25 AM

Why's that wisbang?

Cause i posted one link to a verified FACT about fauxneoconnetwork winning a court case saying they are allowed to LIE and DISTORT?

Uh, I guess you missed that second link showing the same thing, eh?

Charles Krauthammer, eh?

That is laughable.

Let's see what "truth" krauthammer publishes....

Here's SEVEN pages of his misinformation and assertions debunked over the last decade....using transcripts of his own bs

Still waiting to see ANY links to credible sourced transcripts showing ANY msm calling bush any names like racist or saying he will kill your grandma.....

It's about time faux was outed for being a lying, misinforming pos infotainment/propaganda network, owned and operated by a giant, global conglomerate media corporation controlled by Rupert Murdoch, an Australian.

Buy American

Anita Dunn also informed us where she got the Mao quotation....

LEE ATWATER.....

Too uninformed to know who he is?

Look him up.

#69kanrei

LINKS to credibly sourced msm talking heads calling bush a racist please!

77

Is that why you feel the need to spew insults and namecalling at me every time i post, yet are unable to debunk any of the FACTS I post along with verifiable and credible sources backing them up?

79

Go upthread and read the first sentence of my first post, #14.

Still waiting, despite all the bs saying otherwise, to verifiable, credible LINKS to msm talking heads DENIGRATING bush, as has been done to Obama, before, during and especially after the election.

Not to mention an ENTIRE network of talking head, infotainment personalities.

Which would that be nanc?

#23...a joke from Jay Leno?

or #50...a utube from crybaby becky?

or #79 ....a rw biased opinion rag...roll call?

LINKS to credibly sourced msm talking heads calling bush a racist please!

#75 | POSTED BY WOKE AT 2009-10-21 09:54 AM

www.abc.net.au
www.msnbc.msn.com
www.cbsnews.com
That took about 3 mins, I bet there are tons more. Do you own reasearch before you look like a bafoon next time.

#100 | POSTED BY FREECHOICE AT 2009-10-21 10:50 AM

Maybe if you spent MORE than 3 minutes, you wouldn't look so ridiculous....

1. Is about Kanye West.....Is he a msm talking head or network?

2. Is about Katrina victims saying bush is a racist

3. More katrina victims, not msm talking heads or networks

Sorry, reporting what others say doesnt cut it, bud.

You are too easy.

Wanna try again?

Find one link to ANY msm talking head directly calling bush a racist or denigrating him with lies/misinformation, let alone an entire network of them dedicated to doing so......

Ratings for FOX through monday past:
www.mediabistro.com

#124 | POSTED BY NANC AT 2009-10-21 11:15 AM

Poor, sad, loser repugs.

They think ratings equal credibility and votes.

They don't know half of people watching faux are laughing their ass off at the Australian media mogul Murdoch shills' lies and misinformation, and the other half are sucking it in to regurgitate those lies on blogs like DR.

LMFAO

Buy American

Who can defend a "news" org that goes to court and wins the right to lie and distort?

too funny!

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

Back in December of 1996, Jane Akre and her husband, Steve Wilson, were hired by FOX as a part of the Fox "Investigators" team at WTVT in Tampa Bay, Florida. In 1997 the team began work on a story about bovine growth hormone (BGH), a controversial substance manufactured by Monsanto Corporation. The couple produced a four-part series revealing that there were many health risks related to BGH and that Florida supermarket chains did little to avoid selling milk from cows treated with the hormone, despite assuring customers otherwise.

According to Akre and Wilson, the station was initially very excited about the series. But within a week, Fox executives and their attorneys wanted the reporters to use statements from Monsanto representatives that the reporters knew were false and to make other revisions to the story that were in direct conflict with the facts. Fox editors then tried to force Akre and Wilson to continue to produce the distorted story. When they refused and threatened to report Fox's actions to the FCC, they were both fired.(Project Censored #12 1997)

During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre's claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so. After the appeal verdict WTVT general manager Bob Linger commented, "It's vindication for WTVT, and we're very pleased It's the case we've been making for two years. She never had a legal claim."

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

as I never click on any links you guys post and I get all my work done.

#201 | POSTED BY KANREI AT 2009-10-21 12:43 PM

Ah, that is the reason you cannot be educated here on DR and complain about links to credibly sourced info.

I see.

In an e-mail message, Ms. Dunn said, "My source for the Mao quote was actually the late Lee Atwater, either in an article or bio I read after the 1988 election. Now that I've revealed this I hope I don't get Keith Olbermann angry with me. Let it be noted that I also quoted Mother Teresa, but no one is accusing me of being a saint!"

The speech she gave was a high school commencement address. Ms. Dunn says that the line about Mao and Mother Teresa was intended to be ironic neither was a political philosopher and that she used it simply to illustrate a larger point about the importance of challenging the conventional wisdom.

It's no surprise that Mr. Beck singled out Ms. Dunn. She has been on the forefront of White House pushback against Fox News. On the White House blog weeks ago, she took apart Mr. Beck's list of the so-called "czars," pointing out that many on his hit list were confirmed by the Senate or positions held in the Bush administration.

Among those weighing on the Dunn-Beck brouhaha is Peter Wehner, a former policy analyst in the George W. Bush White House, who has in the past been critical of Mr. Beck. Here's his take.

And even at the extremely conservative Riehl World View, the take is that her speech -- aside from other issues shouldn't be a reason to indict her.

On the left side, Media Matters, which tends to monitor all right-leaning sentiments, points to many Republicans, including Barry Goldwater, who have cited the Chairman Mao's declarations as inspiration.

Who is Lee Atwater, repugs?

One of the repug consultants who came up with the "southern strategy after the civil rights legislation passed>>

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger"that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.
And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow mebecause obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."[7]

Willie Horton ring a bell?

Atwater's most noteworthy campaign was the 1988 presidential election, where he served as campaign manager for Republican nominee George H.W. Bush. A particularly aggressive media program included a television advertisement produced by Floyd Brown related to the case of Willie Horton, a convicted murderer serving a life sentence in a Massachusetts prison who committed a rape while participating in a weekend furlough strongly supported by then-governor Michael Dukakis[citation needed] but which had been created by the previous Republican governor.

wiki

Lee Atwater fan, eh wis?

John McCain thinks middle class is anyone making up to $2 million year...
John McCain is willing to stay in Iraq up to a hundred years....
Those are just a couple of blatant lies by Obama himself about McCain.

#225 | POSTED BY CRISPEE_OC AT 2009-10-21 02:34 PM

First, do you have a link to Obama saying these things? I can find where they were documented as fact, but I don't see Obama saying them, but journalists present when mccain said them.

Are videos of mccain saying this stuff ok? Is that credible in your estimation?

STFU, Woke. You had your ass kicked 2+ hours ago by FreeChoice.
#223 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2009-10-21 01:47 PM

READ much wis?

LINKS to credibly sourced msm talking heads calling bush a racist please!
#75 | POSTED BY WOKE AT 2009-10-21 09:54 AM>>

www.abc.net.au
www.msnbc.msn.com
www.cbsnews.com
That took about 3 mins, I bet there are tons more. Do you own reasearch before you look like a bafoon next time.
#100 | POSTED BY FREECHOICE AT 2009-10-21 10:50 AM>>

Maybe if you spent MORE than 3 minutes, you wouldn't look so ridiculous....
1. Is about Kanye West.....Is he a msm talking head or network?
2. Is about Katrina victims saying bush is a racist
3. More katrina victims, not msm talking heads or networks
Sorry, reporting what others say doesnt cut it, bud.

You are too easy.
Wanna try again?

Find one link to ANY msm talking head directly calling bush a racist or denigrating him with lies/misinformation, let alone an entire network of them dedicated to doing so......
#189 | POSTED BY WOKE AT 2009-10-21 12:12 PM

I'm guessing crispee is the same poster as wisgod.....

am i close?

Just roomates?

LOL

I'm guessing crispee is the same poster as wisgod.....

am i close?

#248 | Posted by woke
Pick a new name out of the hat today? Yesterday it was 101. Day before it was Live or Die. Shut up, sit down and have another drink.

#251 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2009-10-21 07:35 PM |

Busted, eh?

It's not hard to see the similarities in "roommates" here on DR.

They need more than one name so they can agree with themselves....

.

If illegal immigration was such a big frickin deal to the repugs, why didn't they do something about it when they held potus, scotus and congress for a decade?

Oh yeah, some businessmen who hire them for less than minimum wage objected.

Are you a moderator on this blog Lisa?

Just curious.

Ummmm...Woke?

Crispee is NOT Wisgod.
#261 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-10-21 08:26 PM

Well, the reason I asked if you were a mod, is that moderators can tell who is posting from a certain location and IP address, even if they use more than one name, (which I have been repeatedly accused of by the "regular" suspects here on DR, whom I refer to as trolls, (because they seldom post any info on topic, and if they do it's easily debunked misinformation which they glean from faux or rush then regurgitate it here on DR, or mostly just say STFU and namecall, insult and personally attack anyone who DOES post verifiable info that debunks their bs.......)
(see 248/247 for instance)

Maybe the moderator here would like to tell us who actually does use more than one name. It's a pretty common thing among rw trolls who appear on "lib" blogs to divert and misinform.

After awhile, it becomes fairly easy to see. Of course, since they all get their marching orders from the same sources, rush, faux, crybaby becky, o'lielly, hannity, etc.....sometimes it just seems like they are all exactly the same......unlike the big tent dems who have a wider variety of Americans involved.

But thanks for your opinion Lisa, I'm sure you know better than a "newbie", what's what and who's who here on DR.

#268 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2009-10-21 08:53 PM

Thank you for engaging me on the actual content of my post.

Ah, I see Lisa,

So you are among those who believe I MUST be some other poster who has been here before a month or 6 weeks ago?

It's not true. I've said it over and over and still I'm seeing the same shit.

Apparently, when LIES and MISINFORMATION is repeated (by the rw trolls who continually attack me) are seen by folks like you, it becomes truth.

I don't get it? What's the deal? Now, YOU are part of that smear too.

I know you feel I "attacked" your religion, which btw is also mine, Christianity, because I linked an article to the prevalence of abortion among Catholics AND Protestants, but I din't think that meant you were among those who swallow the BUNK spewed on DR by these rw/troll posters.

No matter.

Enjoy your day.

www.washingtontimes.com

#301 | POSTED BY HOPEYCHANGEY AT 2009-10-22 12:47 AM |

Wash Times, owned and operated by rev moon.

Yeah, that's a credible, non biased source. NOT

The Washington Times is a daily broadsheet newspaper published in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States. It was founded in 1982 by Unification Church founder Sun Myung Moon and is subsidized by the Unification Church community. The Times is known for its conservative stance on political and social issues.

In 2002 Moon, who has said that he is the Messiah and the Second Coming of Christ and is fulfilling Jesus' unfinished mission,[4][5]

In 1999 the Times was criticized by the Daily Howler for misquoting vice-president Al Gore.[23] In 2000 the Howler criticized the Times again, this time for making unsubstantiated allegations about Gore's campaign fundraising.[24] In 2004 the Howler criticized a Times' front page story which made fun of Democratic Party presidential candidate John Kerry's vacationing in France.[25]
Conservative-turned-liberal writer David Brock, who worked for the Times' sister publication Insight on the News, said in his 2002 book Blinded by the Right that the news writers at the Times were encouraged and rewarded for giving news stories a conservative slant. In his 2004 book The Republican Noise Machine, Brock wrote "the Washington Times was governed by a calculatedly unfair political bias and that its journalistic ethics were close to nil."[26]
In his 2003 book, Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right, comedian, author, and later senator Al Franken devoted a chapter to criticizing the Times after executive editor Wesley Pruden re-wrote a reporter's storywithout the reporter's knowledgeabout Franken's performance at a White House party. According to Franken, the rewrite was made to appear as if Franken had received a negative reception, which he says was not the case.[27]
The Washington Times has been accused of promoting racist views. Max Blumenthal in The Nation claimed that Times editor Fran Coombs had made a number of racist and sexist comments and was being sued by his colleagues for his remarks.[28]. The Southern Poverty Law Center in its Spring 2005 report criticized the wife of Fran Coombs, for writing articles in what the report claimed as white nationalist websites such as the Occidental Quarterly.[29]. Media Matters criticized the Times for promoting the views of Steve Sailer of VDARE.[30].
In 2002, the Times published a story accusing the National Educational Association (NEA), the largest teachers' union in the United States, of promoting teaching students that the policies of the United States government were partly to blame for the 2001 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center.[31] This was denied by the NEA and by other commentators.[32][33]

referenced wiki

Buy American

Here ya go, SEVEN pages of articles documenting Wash Times bias...

Woke:
I never said any such thing.
I just wondered about a post I believe you had made.
You didn't answer the question. Did you make that post.
Just curious, that's all.
Frankly, I don't care if you were here under a different name before or not. I find to see the importance of it.
#313 | POSTED BY LISA AT 2009-10-22 07:14 AM

Lisa

For the UMPTEENTH time, I have NEVER posted under ANY other name but WOKE here on DR.

And i never posted anything that said otherwise ever.

I fail to see the importance of it either, other than the rw trolleyboys who infest this site cannot think of any other thingy than that to divert from the facts i post. "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" eh?

Look thru the comments made about me after your last post for instance.

See ANYTHING at all that deals with any content of what i've posted OR the actual topic of the thread?

Just smears, lies, insults, ad hominem attacks......it's a dead giveaway as to who the trolls are here.

Plus the one troll from newshounds, 2008, who is "DOS=deleted on sight" there after infesting the place with a gazillion screennames and diversions for the last 5 years there.

Then, there is crispee, who continues to post the same LIES over and over (#225)....even though I posted VIDEOS of mccain saying the exact things stated, that he claims Obama lied about....#247)

This is why the trolleyboys attack me, because i debunk their lies and post facts with credible references they cannot dispute.....

Check it out "newshounds.us". A great site that has been documenting the lies of faux neocon network since they created the movie OUTFOXED, which detailed the lies told that led to the iraqnam debacle.

Have a nice day.

Thanks for likening me to Cindy Sheehan crispee.....I appreciate being likened to a Gold Star mother who had the GUTS to stand up to they lying ass lilaWol at his own ranch.

I honor war veterans and their parents, especially those who've given their lives serving America.

I'm sure if you ever find an issue that is important enough to you, you would be as courageous as Sheehan in standing up to the most powerful position in the world, camp outside of his residence and demand to know an answer to your question.

LMFAO

RW trolleys say: If you cannot debunk what's posted, just smear the messenger.

The wikipedia info is REFERENCED with links. Know what that means?

and

mediamatters.org publishes ACTUAL transcripts DOCUMENTING the lies and misinformation the corporate msm spews daily.

For the poor deluded souls who believe that because nbc/msnbc have added 2 or 3 people (olbermann, shultz, maddow) who dare even QUESTION the rw BS that emanates from faux and the right wing, they are lefty/lib, let me just say this: Anyone who thinks one of America's oldest and largest war profiteering corporations leans lefty/lib shows the depth of their indoctrination and ignorance.

Scarborough, Buchanan, et al......Yeah, they are real far left allright!

I laugh at those who say Tweety (matthews) is lefty. His right wing bias has been documented for a decade.

Furthermore, remember during the run up to the iraqnam debacle, when Phil Donahue dared question the misinformation? At the time, he was their HIGHEST rated show, yet they immediately terminated his show.

Should read msnbc's highest rated show......

Like the folks on Fox don't question wth Obama is doing??

#349 | POSTED BY MURPHY AT 2009-10-22 05:38 PM

sure murph

just post for us any msm talking heads calling bush a racist or saying he is gonna kill your grandma (and I don't mean someone reporting on kanye west saying it or katrina victims saying it)

is that what you mean by "questioning"?

should be easy to do if what you assert is true, eh?

let's see it link to transcript of olberman, shultz or maddow saying vile things and misinformation about bush please.....

i'll check back

Why Is Unemployment Rising Faster In the U.S. Than Other Countries?
www.foxnews.com
#350 | POSTED BY HOPEYCHANGEY AT 2009-10-22 08:20 PM

hoperdoper has apparently been asleep for the last 8 years.....