Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs

A suicide bomber killed six Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commanders and 26 others Sunday at a gathering of tribal leaders. The assault was carried out by a lone man who reportedly disguised himself in tribal dress and detonated an explosives belt at a gymnasium in the city of Pishin.

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Six Generals (commanders)?

How did this guy get into the meeting?

Obama quickly condemned the terrorist! At least he made a decision....quickly even.


prompted President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to caution Pakistan about cross-border violence.


Or else what? LOL

Umm...
Are these the good muslims or the bad ones?

I cant remember..

prompted President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to caution Pakistan about cross-border violence.

Or else what? LOL
#3 | POSTED BY TOSSER AT 2009-10-20 12:59 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

you shouldnt joke about this..

Pakistan has Nukes, Iran ... /shrug
who really knows.

These two countries have not built up over many years of low level antagonism ramping up to nuclear standoff. They have a much better chance of starting something neither side can turn off due to a lack of established communication channels at the highest levels of government (whether or not you think either sides pres is worth a damn is immaterial, they still have the responsibility of keeping their militarizes in line.)

This is the situation that the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty was designed to prevent.

As long as the Islamic world has someone else to rally together against, they arent likely to go at each other, but once any immidiate threat from the west is alieveated, they will be at each others throats again, old tribal rivalries are practically celebrated tradition.

The Hatfields and McCoys aint got nuthin on these folk.

you shouldnt joke about this..

Pakistan has Nukes


We know. LOL


Iran ... /shrug
who really knows.


Even without nukes, Pakistan can pull Iran apart in 2 weeks.

With nukes... about 5-10 minutes.

So this Iranian pipsqueak should think twice before accusing us (Pakistan) of anything.

Iran has made more than enough enemies in this world with their "we will wipe off the map... yap yap yap...."

They should concentrate on improving their own security.

And no, Iran has no chance of making a nuke. The just haven't got the scientific and industrial infrastructure nor do they have the universities, research institutes or the brain-power.

they arent likely to go at each other, but once any immidiate threat from the west is alieveated, they will be at each others throats again


Nawww... Iran has always been a problem-child.

They mouth off all the time.. that's their "thing"... but in the end, they have never been much of a threat to anyone.

Six Generals (commanders)

One General. Five Commanders. Six Officers in Total.

They blamed lots of people

One General. Five Commanders. Six Officers in Total.


I don't know what the fuss is about. It's not like their "generals" are real... the "Revolutionary Guard" is a force of political thugs... not a real army.

CIA funded terrorism is uniquely American.

Seriously, how come nobody has pointed out that the coniving jews are behind this! This is still the leftwing retort, right? You pantpissers never miss an opportunity to blame the fucking jews, what's up?

"Seriously, how come nobody has pointed out that the coniving jews are behind this! This is still the leftwing retort, right? You pantpissers never miss an opportunity to blame the fucking jews, what's up?"

Iraqibukkake blamed the CIA without having a scrap of evidence or apparently the common sense to know how unlikely that is.

That's pretty much the same mindless schtick.

A pure schadenfreude moment......

Iraqibukkake blamed the CIA without having a scrap of evidence or apparently the common sense to know how unlikely that is.

www.telegraph.co.uk

"However, the CIA is giving arms-length support, supplying money and weapons, to an Iranian militant group, Jundullah, which has conducted raids into Iran from bases in Pakistan."

Apparently not as unlikely as you were led to believe.

"Apparently not as unlikely as you were led to believe."

Jundullah is a Pakistani group. Iranians did this.

Jundullah is a Pakistani group. Iranians did this.

Sez who? Oh, that must be the "without having a scrap of evidence" you're talking about...

maps.google.com

What country is less than 5 miles from Pishin, Iran?

"Sez who?"

The people who claimed responsiblity.

One word, 3 letters: CIA.

State media said the Sunni Muslim militant group Jundallah, or Soldiers of God, which operates along the Iran-Pakistan border, claimed responsibility for the attack. The organization, part of a regional Sunni insurgency in Shi'ite-dominated Iran, has for years killed and kidnapped Iranian soldiers and police officers.

No where in this article does it say they are Iranian. It says they are a regional insurgency that operates on the Iranian-Pakistani border, which conducted an attack 5 miles from the Pakistani border. The CIA is funding the exact same group, in the exact same location.

You can take back your "without having a scrap of evidence or apparently the common sense" comment anytime you like...

What would the US gain from whacking these people?

What does the US gain from sponsoring a terrorist organization that can't help the US government achieve any of its foreign policy goals with respect to Iran?

I could see the US turning a blind eye to this group's sanctuaries in Afghanistan if they weren't causing the US problems, but I don't understand what the US gains from this sort of proxy assassination.

Seems to a molehill made into a mountain. If you haven't noticed the Iranian government likes to blame the US for lots of things.

Irrakibuttcake: what the fuck do you care? How many hundreds of US soldiers died as a result of Iran meddling in Iraq? I'm glad to see it. Thank you CIA for doing yer job!

What would the US gain from whacking these people?

Regional destabilization which could lead us into Iranian territory the same way we ended up in Pakistan from Afghanistan. Obama and Biden are on record many times saying "terror has no borders"...this could be setting the table for that stance.

What does the US gain from sponsoring a terrorist organization that can't help the US government achieve any of its foreign policy goals with respect to Iran?

How do you know they can't?

www.telegraph.co.uk

That money has got to get spent somewhere...

what the fuck do you care? How many hundreds of US soldiers died as a result of Iran meddling in Iraq? I'm glad to see it. Thank you CIA for doing yer job!

www.lmgtfy.com

Regional destabilization which could lead us into Iranian territory the same way we ended up in Pakistan from Afghanistan

Again, why would we want to destabilize the region and have a barely-manageable "war on terror" spread to another country? Nothing good comes out of that.

IraqiB


Your link is interesting--but relying on Iranians catching the J guys with 500k is hardly evidence of the CIA involvement.

Did they provide photos of the money and weapons? Were the weapons marked "Made in the USA"?

The J guys are Sunni--are they not the enemy of the Shi'ite in Iran and visa versa?

It still begs the question of how the bomber got into the place.


And Iran does blame a lot of people.

Many people who I normally wouldn't agree with, I do so today.

1. Jundalla is an Iranian group made up of disgruntled Iranians.

2. Iran likes to blame the sun the moon the stars... everything.. for whatever tummy ache it's got at the moment.

3. Iran should work harder to improve their shit security. Listening to them talk you might end up believing they have already taken over the planet and the Persian Empire reigns supreme. LOL

4. Pakistani media is of the opinion that the CIA is mucking about around Iran, specially inside the Afghan-Iran border. So they might be right... but only because CIA is always mucking about. That's what they do.

If I say, CIA stole my lunch money, I might be correct... at some point. LOL

The answer is at the bottom here:
www.drudge.com

The answer is at the bottom here:
www.drudge.com


Indeed it is.

This is what you said. Very true, very logical.

We forgot the Iran Pakistan Pipeline.

We like the Iran Pakistan Pipeline.

Uncle Sam Doesn't like the Iran Pakistan Pipeline.

Jundullah doesn't like Iran.

So they obviously won't like the Iran Pakistan pipeline.

So, yes, our "Uncle" just might be up to something out there.

Maybe the Iranians are right... the CIA is involved.

But, I swear, I don't like the attitude these Iranian bastards come with and I'm sick and tired of their yapping. Like the neighbor's dog that just can't shut up.

So I take it this is another Operation Ajax part 2 with regards to Iran then is that what I am hearing(Reading)??

Larry

I don't like the attitude these Iranian bastards come with and I'm sick and tired of their yapping.

Your suspicion is well founded.

This entire bombing was probably an Iranian Baloch job.

However; I am positive that US Department of Defence people (notice I did not say Army) likely re-"birthed" Jundullah some time 5-7 years ago. All they have to do is stand back and let them run loose.

The terrain is made for running wild anyway.

As for the CIA; puh-lease. Those mediocrities are waaaaay past their sell-by date. All they're good for is kidnapping people from streets and then torturing them.

The people who arrange stuff like Jundullah's rebirth are in the Pentagon.

When people blame the CIA, they mean the DIA; Defence Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon's version of the ISI. And the smart men who do all these operations are all Special Forces, SEALS, Rangers, Green Berets, etc.

The whole world is copying the ISI model.

Since soldiers can't go full-out on each other in wars, smarten them up and use them as spies/spy-masters.

Operation Ajax part 2

More like running Iran's versions of the Contras; except its inside Iran!

So 20 years ago you had Iran-Contra

Now you have "Iran's Contras"!

The Americans don't have to supply Jundullah with anything.

There's enough Heroin money around that border that Tosser could drive there
and set up his own special Drudge Retort (TM) Pak-Iran Frontier News Service.

There's enough Heroin money around that border that Tosser could drive there
and set up his own special Drudge Retort (TM) Pak-Iran Frontier News Service.


What an Idea! Just might do that....

When people blame the CIA, they mean the DIA


You are right. The CIA are losers and have not been good for anything since last 20-30 years.

Like I said:

Since soldiers can't go full-out on each other in real tank wars; smarten them up and use them as spies/spy-masters

Considering that Pakistan's army routinely gets routed by the Indian army, the Paki's better hope Iran doesn't decide to just kick their ass. Clearly Iran would have no problem dominating Pakistan's military in short order if they so choose. (The whining denials of Pakistanis notwithstanding.) In fact, now that I think of it, have the Pakistanis evern NOT gotten their asses kicked in a confrontation? LOL

have the Pakistanis evern NOT gotten their asses kicked in a confrontation?


LOL... nice try. (main part is in english)

www.youtube.com

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=oaJ8phw3WPs

etc etc.

Corrected link:

www.youtube.com

And another one:

www.youtube.com


Now let's talk about the mighty USA.

Loses every war even those against pipsqueaks, like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Got kicked out of Vietnam.

Can't get an Arab from his cave since 8 years. LOL

As for Iran... they can be attacked very easily by anyone. Hell, most of their country doesn't even have radar cover.

They still fly F-4 planes. LOL

BUT... Iran can't be occupied. You can attack to destroy... you can't attack to occupy.

YS... what do you think?

Meanwhile, watch this official Iranian army video.

Motorbikes. LOL

www.youtube.com

Current events in the Middle East are far more complicated than rats like Maunder8, et al, can comprehend.

I, for one, appreciate the insights provided by YS_1 and Tosser. A few of the very limited reasons I continue to read this blog.

1. He's ignorant.

2. He was trying to bait me into taking a third dump and a vacation.

I don't ever remember (and neither does anyone else) of Mod8 saying something can be taken as fact.

1965.... 5 Indian aircraft shot down in 60 seconds by one guy. (animation - urdu)

www.youtube.com

The aircraft in that video are f-86 Sabers.

Only thing is, they are not American... they were Canadian Sabers.

The Canadian version of the aircraft was a few inches shorter and was more maneuverable and had greater power.

Fun facts by Tosser. LOL

Sectarianism comes into this whole thing as well.

I'll continue this all twenty four hours from now - I need to sleep as well.

And speaking of sectarianism, Tosser; I'm flaging those videos as encouraging abuse.

I don't know if we have any black people on DR but slurs against black people wouldn't be accepted. I doubt we have Shia on DR so stuff that tweaks at Shias (a sect) as opposed to tweaking at Iran (a country; thats ok) is not acceptable.

T-T-Y'all-in-24

YS_1

I'm flaging those videos as encouraging abuse.


Strange. I don't see anything about "abuse" in them.

If you are Shia, let me know privately. As a Pakistani, I will apologize and refrain from posting anything that might hurt your feelings.

However, if you were Iranian, I would tell you to go to Hell. LOL

Good thing you are not.

Btw, these videos were uploaded by Iranian Shia people who are sick and tired of their mullahs running their lives and making them look bad.

I don't think you have any right to complain.

The Mullah IS the Govt. of Iran.

Simple.

Cross a mullah and he can hang you.

So all anti-mullah Iranian videos are anti-Iran videos as well, in my opinion. And the Iranians are the ones who made the videos themselves.

Ridiculous Fundos.

Anyway.... to Hell with Iran, as I was saying.

They pulled all sorts of stunts negotiating for the pipeline. We should have told them to shove it since they can't sell to anyone else. LOL

America is right for once.

Bury them.

Dedicated to women everywhere....

Download and read these comic books about a girl's life in Iran (real story).

Explains everything about why Iran is the mess it is today. For example, it was Iran that started the Iran-Iraq war, not Saddam....

These were for free (no copyright issues) and have been made into an animated movie.

Part 1 and part 2.

drop.io

This will self-expire in one week.

"Now let's talk about the mighty USA.

Loses every war even those against pipsqueaks, like Iraq and Afghanistan."

LOL. Those are countries. Pakistan's army loses battles to tribes. At least their cowardice keeps the losses down. Six guys get shot and the rest run like hell.

Pakistan's army loses battles to tribes.


I don't think so.

'Pakistan's army loses battles to tribes.'

In Pakistan I might add. LOL.

Even though it was all over the news just yesterday.


What was? Do tell.

In Pakistan I might add.


Well, it's the American way to kill everyone in sight.

I would like to think we don't do that. Needless killing is wrong.

Action should always be taken at a speed that lets people come around to our point of view and surrender or change sides.

It's been a very successful strategy in other areas.

"What was? Do tell."

I already told you. This is like talking to a retarded parrot.

Even if you look at the bigger picture it is obvious your army is afraid of tribal militias. The Pakistani army is always reaching truces and agreements with these tribes. There'd be no reason for a military to be doing that in their own territory unless they feared the possibility of getting their asses kicked.

There is no way to spin this. Not that you won't make a fool of yourself yet again in your effort to do so.

"Well, it's the American way to kill everyone in sight."

If it was, we wouldn't lose wars. Anyone familiar with history knows that killing everyone in site is a way to win wars pretty quickly.

I already told you.


No you didn't. You said we "lost" to the taliban.

When did that happen? They were driven out of Swat. LOL


There is no way to spin this.


Well, as I said... it's like talking to a retarded American parrot.... We got results.

The American Govt. said so as well.

So your own Govt. is lying you say? LOL


Anyone familiar with history knows that killing everyone in site is a way to win wars pretty quickly.


Then why have you lost every war after WW2?

Making deals, brings results, if you are ready to apply military pressure as well.

If the tribes can be persuaded to form their own "lashkars" (tribal militias), that has shown the best results.

America has been trying since the last 8 years in Afghanistan to form tribal "lashkars" against the taliban.

They can't do it.

We can and did. And it brought permanent results.

Without the local people getting involved, the soldiers will just be chasing shadows forever (just like the Americans are).

In fact... getting back on topic... THAT was exactly what the Iranians were trying to do when they got bombed and killed.

Someone sabotaged the whole thing. It was that important.

"Then why have you lost every war after WW2?"

Because we now fight wars where our Country can't stomach what needs to be done to win. Instead we care more about how the enemy is treated, rather than how to kill them. Or how the world views and ignoring how we saved the world.

Because we now fight wars where our Country can't stomach what needs to be done to win.


Which would be what? Kill/nuke everything?

What's the point of THAT?


instead we care more about how the enemy is treated


So you don't believe in the Geneva Convention... the rules about treating prisoners of war and the rules against torture and stuff?


Or how the world views and ignoring how we saved the world.


The Russians did more to defeat Hitler than you did.

"No you didn't. You said we "lost" to the taliban."

Yes, your army lost a battle to them, they re-took a town and it was in the news yesterday. I told you this before.

Now you even lie about what someone else posted moments before?

"America has been trying since the last 8 years in Afghanistan to form tribal "lashkars" against the taliban.

They can't do it."

I thought we were killing everyone is sight. Get your lies straight.

Of course we are trying to cut deals with these guys. Bush stupidly morphed a punitary strike into an idiotic nation building exercise. Our goal involves working with these people. That is why we are failing.

But let's compare apples to apples: If they were taking over portions of the US and bombing our schools, there would be no deals. To pretend otherwise is assinine.

Yes, your army lost a battle to them, they re-took a town


Ah... you are talking of the outskirts of Kotkai...

But this back-and-forth will happen many times. It is normal.

The army will only come back with more.

You never heard of a strategic retreat obviously. That's how a guerrilla war is fought and that is how America lost Vietnam.

This happened in Swat many times... the taliban used to come back only to be killed again and after a while, they just couldn't keep it up.

I thought we were killing everyone is sight.


You want to, but are too inept. Understand the subtext here. LOL

You specialize in bombing birthdays and weddings in Afghanistan.

That is what is meant by killing everyone in sight.. killing with verification.


If they were taking over portions of the US and bombing our schools, there would be no deals.


You would deal if the bombings were done by Americans who came on the Mayflower. LOL

You make deals with drug dealers who destroy America all the time. By drugs, not by bombs, but just as bad.

You do deals with terrorists around the world, letting them walk (Bin Ladin family allowed to leave US after 9-11 without questioning). etc etc.

Americans are the best at making deals.

killing with verification. = without verification.

Oops.

Then why have you lost every war after WW2?

The US military is designed to fight WW3, not hunt guerrillas in their own backyard.

"You never heard of a strategic retreat obviously."

When you have superior equipment and six times the manpower and we're talking about territory that is in your own country? How about strategically using an overwhelming advantage to crush an ill-conceived enemy attack?

Pakistani "strategic retreat" consists one guy falling down and skinning his knee and hundreds of guys wetting their pants, dropping their guns and running like their dicks are on fire after they see the blood. LMAO.

How about strategically using an overwhelming advantage to crush an ill-conceived enemy attack?


No! Even I know, that's stupid.

If we were fighting another country, then yes. But this is a guerrilla war in the mountains, with civilians all around, any number of whom could be enemy or friendlies.


Pakistani "strategic retreat" consists one guy falling down and skinning his knee


If there was more resistance than expected, they would immediately fall back. No sense in going full power. Never go full power on your own territory!

There is no need for heroics or drama. They are being starved of supplies (except those they get from Afghanistan)... their bombs have half the explosive they used to have.

When they run out of food, they will lose automatically.

The US military is designed to fight WW3


And how much money do you lose every year preparing to fight WW3... which will never happen.

Why don't you go the extra mile and spend money preparing to fight the martians too?

Let me give you an American example.

America went all guns blazing in Waco, Texas.

In revenge, Timothy McVeigh, bombed a building.

See?

If you go all guns blazing, it will come back to bite you in the ass.....

"But this is a guerrilla war in the mountains, with civilians all around, any number of whom could be enemy or friendlies."

LOL. Sure. The army lost a village because it thought the men charging them and firing AK's may have been friendly civilians.

"America went all guns blazing in Waco, Texas."

Those idiots literally killed themselves. You couldn't have picked a worse example if you tried.

"In revenge, Timothy McVeigh, bombed a building."

He was crazy, stupid and easily led. Anyone who thinks Waco was an excuse to blow up that building would also believe the sun coming up is a reason to blow up that building. McVeigh would have done what he did if Waco never happened.



"When they run out of food, they will lose automatically."

How do you starve them out without also starving the civilians you claimed the Pakistani army is so worried about?

ROF.


The army lost a village


Have patience, little one.

They have all the time in the world.


McVeigh would have done what he did if Waco never happened.


Maybe, maybe not.


How do you starve them out without also starving the civilians you claimed the Pakistani army is so worried about?


By letting the civilians move out of the area, as they are doing.

In Swat, the taliban were reduced to eating pet food. They gave up soon after.

By starving, I also mean starving them of things like ammo and fuel.

They will need a hell of a lot of fuel to warm themselves in the coming sub-zero temperatures.

I don't see this going on for more than a few months.

Swat took 2 months to clear the taliban. This is a larger area and will take a bit longer, but not too much.

Exams Over - Back Here


I, for one, appreciate the insights provided by YS_1 and Tosser. A few of the very limited reasons I continue to read this blog.

Zarathustra I'm touched by your comments.


Iran can't be occupied. You can attack to destroy... you can't attack to occupy.

Agreed.


Strange. I don't see anything about "abuse" in them.

Its making fun of other peoples religion. If somebody made a vid like that on Islam in general (and that vid did link to vid's like that made by non-Muslims) then it wouldn't be tolerated.

If you are Shia, let me know privately.

Nope. But lets not kid ourselves; the same standard of respect we expect for our faith, we should show for others.

As a Pakistani, I will apologize and refrain from posting anything that might hurt your feelings.

Its all chill mate.


Btw, these videos were uploaded by Iranian Shia people who are sick and tired of their mullahs running their lives and making them look bad.

Agreed


I don't think you have any right to complain.

you're right, the Iranians are the ones who are pissed off. The thing is in Pakistan there's a fuck ton of psychos looking for any excuse to Hate on Shias. I don't want to do a single thing to play into THOSE fuckers hands.

Even if it means avoiding funny videos like those.

The Mullah IS the Govt. of Iran.

Simple.

Sooo True!

Cross a mullah and he can hang you.

Fuckers. They should-be/will-be hanged/run-out in 15-20 years.


So all anti-mullah Iranian videos are anti-Iran videos as well, in my opinion.

Do we have to hate on Iran? They seem to fart quite nicely in Uncle Sam's face.


And the Iranians are the ones who made the videos themselves.

Agreed

Ridiculous Fundos.

111 % Agreed

McVeigh did Oklahoma City on the anniversary of Waco.

Correlation.

It seems those who are plain liberal or fluctuate around the centre are more annoying (Sully, Moder8) as opposed to those who are plainly left wing (Zarathustra, Zombiehunter, Zoroastrian) or smart rightwing (Goatman, Tosser, BruceAZ?) are patient enough to pull information out.

And yeah for Zombiehunter (and Tosser), to the tune of Metallica's "For Whom the Bell Tolls":

The Intro to Zombieland

or smart rightwing (Goatman, Tosser, BruceAZ?) are patient enough to pull information out.

#85 | Posted by YS_1


Bruce is a lib, a nice guy but a lib and he's so gonna kick your ass for saying that

Bruce is a lib

Good on him! I should've guessed.


a nice guy but a lib

So a lib can't be a nice guy ;-)


and he's so gonna kick your ass for saying that

Lulz, why did you think I added the question mark?

And Scotchy, I forgot to add you and spud to DR's roll call.

a nice guy but a lib

I second that. Bruce is a nice guy. It's got nothing to do with political affiliation

So a lib can't be a nice guy ;-)

They can be and most are. They are just severely misguided. *grin*

They are just severely misguided

I r Lib.

It only harms my Grammar.

Even though I'm from Grammar.

*Sharky Smile*

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