Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs

Liberal criticism of President Obama and the rest of the Democratic power structure has provoked an angry reaction among a few well-connected Democrats who talk anonymously to the press. "Can I speak freely about the liberal whiners?" asks a well-connected Democratic strategist. "These are the same people who have never participated in, much less won, a campaign, who have no idea what it takes to maintain a majority and keep a speaker of our party, who want Obama to kowtow to the loony Left, and then they're going to be the ones who say, 'What happened?' in November 2010, when we lose the House and possibly the Senate and maybe a lot of governorships."

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The White House, too, is growing sick of the whiners.

Why should they be different than anyone else? Even the White House has finally figured out that the far left "progressives" are a cancerous bunch of do-nothing eggheads that have no concept of the realities in DC.

So we are supposed to take some conservatives word about the so called whiney left?? bwhahahahahah too fucking funny for words.

Larry

"Can I speak freely about the liberal whiners?" asks a well-connected Democratic strategist.

Not on this blog.

"These are the same people who have never participated in, much less won, a campaign, who have no idea what it takes to maintain a majority and keep a speaker of our party, who want Obama to kowtow to the loony Left, and then they're going to be the ones who say, 'What happened?' in November 2010, when we lose the House and possibly the Senate and maybe a lot of governorships."

They're also the same people that post the same stupid threads here everyday about 'rtards', Sarah Palin, and dead-in-the-water 'public option' health plans. Tiresome and repetetive, to the point that even their own people get sick of them.

Larry, all anyone has to do is listen to your bloviating BS for about five seconds to know that you're someone who expects do-nothings like Pelosi, Reid, & Barney Frank to make your decisions for you. Exactly the people that even the White House, and evryone else, is sick of.

Even the White House has finally figured out that the far left "progressives" are a cancerous bunch of do-nothing eggheads that have no concept of the realities in DC.

#1 | Posted by cookfish at


Fill us in, enlightened one, on the "realities in DC."

I'd pick Pelosi's decision making over yours cookfish.

The White House, too, is growing sick of the whiners.
#1 | Posted by cookfish


This might explain why you and Rahm are no longer considered "an item."

Liberals are the masters of telling you what to think.

Commonsense and deductive reasoning are always absent from their baseless, shallow and mostly delusional diatribes.

MSNBC is for sale. Enough said.

does the word 'contradiction' fit here????

Lots of us criticize the Obama administration and the Dems for not being aggressive enough but don't worry righties, we'll still be there supporting them with money and votes when the time comes. Family squabbles are part of the Democratic Party, always have been. No split like the Dixiecrats is on the horizon so don't get your hopes up Rethugs.

I love the White House officials and Democratic strategists who think that now they're in power, they don't owe anything to the liberals who played a role in getting them there. Their sense of entitlement is galling.

The reason many liberals are upset is because Obama and the Democratic Congress haven't done enough with their time in power. Contrary to that gutless strategist's online quote, millions of liberals did participate in and win this campaign. They hit the streets and organized in record numbers.

If Obama and the strategists for Congressional leaders think they can win in 2010 and 2012 without keeping promises made during the campaign to liberals, they will be unpleasantly surprised.

Squabbles are AOK when in between dems. Any squables from republicans are...take your pick, racists, nazi's, greedy, ignorant, astro turf, partisan, selfish, brown shirts, homophobes, teab baggers, etc.

Here' how the zero reacts to reb squabbles

"But I don't want the folks that created the mess -- I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them just to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess.

"I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking," Obama said.

""I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking," Obama said."

I could toast to that comment.

Wow, people in this country are arising out of their Rip Van Winkle slumber. They're starting to get it and are scared to death-- the Bernie Madoff political con is about ready to implode. American public ignorance and passivity is being replaced by anger and ultimately activism. Having been an independent voter I look at the current crop of democrats and ask myself what planet these folks come from-- total lack of common sense or value system.

I'd pick Pelosi's decision making over yours cookfish.

#6 | Posted by jackass - FLAG: waiting for Obama-money

history will look back at this WH gang as an awful experiment, never to be repeated again


"If Obama and the strategists for Congressional leaders think they can win in 2010 and 2012 without keeping promises made during the campaign to liberals, they will be unpleasantly surprised."

Yes, and it's sickening. There are dumbasses--usually call themselves "nonpartisan" or "centrist" or "non-ideological", etc., who deny that it actually makes a difference in people's everyday lives which political party is in power. There *is* a difference between a Sotomayor and a Scalia. Hopefully a few more justices can be replaced before Obama's 4 years are up.

You're absolutely right. The white house and their cronies went in a direction that's been devastating and now they're in the process of trying to switch gears from being ideologues to pragmatists. They're about to sacrifice the liberals on the altar of self-interest and expediency. The process has just begun by the supposed leak by "well-connected democrats." I really don't think it'll work since around me I have never seen so many individuals that are as angry as they are-- I don't think people will resort back to their passiveness and ignorance in the near future.

And we have it right here in play on DR as well......................


Lots of us criticize the Obama administration and the Dems for not being aggressive enough but don't worry righties, we'll still be there supporting them with money and votes when the time comes. Family squabbles are part of the Democratic Party, always have been. No split like the Dixiecrats is on the horizon so don't get your hopes up Rethugs.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2009-10-17 09:57 AM | Reply | Flag: KOOLAID SWILLER

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I love the White House officials and Democratic strategists who think that now they're in power, they don't owe anything to the liberals who played a role in getting them there. Their sense of entitlement is galling.


The reason many liberals are upset is because Obama and the Democratic Congress haven't done enough with their time in power. Contrary to that gutless strategist's online quote, millions of liberals did participate in and win this campaign. They hit the streets and organized in record numbers.


If Obama and the strategists for Congressional leaders think they can win in 2010 and 2012 without keeping promises made during the campaign to liberals, they will be unpleasantly surprised.

#11 | Posted by rcade at 2009-10-17 10:03 AM | Reply | Flag: KOOLAID SWILLER WITH NUANCED THINKING



Yes, Obama will have to do a few things to keep his rabid far left loons "happy" but that is like saying we can keep Danni happy with pictures of Cher.

The Rethugs will have to do some incredible spinning if they hope to ever return to power. Americans understand who caused the economic disaster and they are going to be very reluctant to ever trust anyone with an R by their name.
Democrats are in the default position to retain power, there is simply no viable alternative.
Be aware that Roosevelt faced the same type of critics from both the left and the right but retained power for four elections. It took America a very long time to forget, they finally did for the past 30 years but now are being reminded of what happens when Republican ideologues get the keys to the vault. It gets emptied.

Danni, you might be right, however, there is a big difference today. Pretty much back then the media was controlled by the democrats and that extended well into the 60s. Today, informational flow is so much quicker and diverse. That's one of the reasons fox news is so successful--you no longer have the mainstream (no longer mainstream) controlling news like they did when there was only CBS, ABC, and NBC. What you're also missing is the fact independents like myself were the deciding factor in the last elections and they are moving very quickly away from the democrats currently.

The Rethugs will have to do some incredible spinning if they hope to ever return to power. Americans understand who caused the economic disaster and they are going to be very reluctant to ever trust anyone with an R by their name.
#19 | Posted by danni
Americans understand who caused the economic disaster??

current Dems have controlled the Federal Gvt for nearly 4 yrs - -
Americans may be slow to anger & act, but they are not stupid


The Rethugs will have to do some incredible spinning if they hope to ever return to power.

have ever considered that most Americans don't want ANY PARTICULAR "PARTY" IN POWER . .

they want a BALANCED congress & Senate filled with regular Americans - - -

they want elite & career politicians out on their ass to discover what a real job is - first hand

Amen, brother!

Just the fact that Obama is taking flak from both sides indicates his independence, lack of partisanship, willingness to do the right thing-regardless of political consequences, and that he is indeed doing some things correctly, imho.

I'm sure that lock step partisans won't agree.

It is not necessarily about the Dems themselves, just the sorry 'so-called' leadership or lack thereof at this point in history... the top 5 or 6 leaders are so 'out-of-touch' with reality and keep hiding behind such a false sense of ego without ANY substance to show for almost a year..!!
and, you have just got to love them for taking another 2.+ billion to their fave pork projects this week... anyone who can seriously subscribe to this leadership is pretty lost themselves...

There *is* a difference between a Sotomayor and a Scalia. Hopefully a few more justices can be replaced before Obama's 4 years are up.

#16 | Posted by nullifidian

just askin' . . . what IS that difference??

(please answer such that a regular American can understand - thx)


btw - - a regular American . . .

DOES NOT REQUIRE ALOT OF GOVERNMENT TO EXIST
likes working hard & keeping alot of what he earns
doesn't mind paying some tax
can pretty much take care of family
willing to help friends/neighbors in need
is annoyed by "elite book learning folks" who view him as little more than an experiment



Lots of us criticize the Obama administration and the Dems for not being aggressive enough but don't worry righties, we'll still be there supporting them with money and votes when the time comes. Family squabbles are part of the Democratic Party, always have been. No split like the Dixiecrats is on the horizon so don't get your hopes up Rethugs.

#10 | Posted by danni

You and many other of the most ardent supporters of the President here on this site have spoken in exactly the same terms about those on the "far" left of the party. You belittle and take advantage of them because they have nowhere else to go.

The only difference now is that a republican is speaking about it so you have to distance yourself from his claims.

btw - - a regular American . . .

DOES NOT REQUIRE ALOT OF GOVERNMENT TO EXIST
likes working hard & keeping alot of what he earns
doesn't mind paying some tax
can pretty much take care of family
willing to help friends/neighbors in need
is annoyed by "elite book learning folks" who view him as little more than an experiment
#25 | Posted by markh

Please, Mark. Don't ignore the fact that the framework that allows you to believe that you can do it all by yourself is all that government and government provided infrastructure. Your quality of life has everything to do with the fact that you stand on the shoulders of this government.

"just askin' . . . what IS that difference??"

Well, one is a moderate liberal, and the other is an rtard. And if the old guy and the crazy bitch had won the White House, it would have been another rtard. Any other questions?

#11 by Rcade, perfect response. Say what you want about the left end of the political spectrum, in a close race, it's what got obama and all these other democrats in power. If they want to see how well the election goes without our votes, more power to them.

We came out in record numbers because we didn't want to see this nation continue on it's plummet towards the third world. Blowing money we don't have on meaningless unprovoked wars, spreading the gap between the top 1% and the rest of the population until our cities are going to resemble brazilian favellas, we wanted an end to the idiocy. If the democrats walk away from the values of the left, the left will probably go back to a mix of apathy voting for third parties, resulting in another repub wet dream like the first bush 6 years.

insert an "and/or" between apathy and voting ^

"Well, one is a moderate liberal, and the other is an rtard. And if the old guy and the crazy bitch had won the White House, it would have been another rtard. Any other questions?"

I think that the supreme court is the only place where there is a substantive difference between the parties over the long run. I'm not sure it is enough. That's where my personal conflict lies.

I wish I'd never read Peter Iron's history of the SCOTUS. I'd probably have resolved my issue by now.

^.^

I just love the fact that Obummer and his minions can't stop blaiming George Bush for everything they can think of. When is the man going to start owning his own presidency?

I guess this means that we can also credit George Bush for the stimulus package and the albeit gradual economic recovery?

Take your pick, Liberalistas, either it's all George Bush's fault, and you've wasted nearly a year in office doing NOTHING, or own up to the fact that it is your policies that have fallen flat.

Presidents don't get everything they want ... if they did, we've have at least two more Supreme Court justices due to FDR, among other things...and quite frankly, if Obummer puts through some good ideas, I'd support them.

But you can't have it both ways here. For the first few months, Obummer could fall on the "my predecessor made this mess" argument ... but now things have happened in the interim period that can only be credited to the PRESENT resident of the White House.

It's time to man up, Obummer.


John B.
www.politicscity.com

Liberals are the masters of telling you what to think.
#8 | Posted by aclusux

Whereas the masters of the flock to which you belong don't bother telling you what to think because thinking only confuses the sheeple.

Your quality of life has everything to do with the fact that you stand on the shoulders of this government.

#27 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine- FLAG: backasswards . . again

umm, one can only assume that generations of govt welfare have given ya that perspective - -
but it's wrong

reality check . .
government(s) from Fed down to Local are carried "on the back of", AND "empowered by" it's citizens


"just askin' . . . what IS that difference??"
Well, one is a moderate liberal, and the other is an rtard. And if the old guy and the crazy bitch had won the White House, it would have been another rtard. Any other questions?
#28 | Posted by nullifidian
aren't they all interpreting the same US Constitution for ALL U.S. citzens??

...one White House adviser said, "Those bloggers need to take off their pajamas, get dressed...

You first, Obama.

...and realize that governing a closely divided country is complicated and difficult.

Hey, give us credit. Some of us NEVER believed your "hope and change" crapola.

Lots of us criticize the Obama administration and the Dems for not being aggressive enough but don't worry righties, we'll still be there supporting them with money and votes when the time comes.

I can't make that promise. If Obama can't enact some strong liberal programs under a Democratic majority in the first term of his presidency, and he fritters away his term triangulating from the middle and getting nothing done like Clinton, I will be a former yellow dog in 2012.

Some folks unable to discern facts or common sense.


Electoral vote 365 to 173

Popular vote 69,456,897[1] 59,934,814[1]
Percentage 52.9% 45.7%

What is 7% of 130 million?


Go back and check out the last two prior elections, in which bush43 was APPOINTED by his daddy's cronys on scotus, despite losing the popular vote by over HALF A MILLION and 04, when he smeared a decorated war vet but still only won by 3 million votes.
yet he still declared MANDATES and implemented his neocon agenda of preemptive war, runaway corps, deregulation and windfall tax breaks for the richest 1%.

The president of one of America's largest labor unions, Gerry McEntee, has emerged as a major obstacle to the White House's efforts to maintain a unified front in the health care debate.

more problems from the left for obama.

"liberal whiners?"

Liberal and whiners are an oxymoron.

""liberal whiners?"

Liberal and whiners are an oxymoron."

And if you are trying to attack Liberals with that statement, that is just hilarious.

Woke, so Bush won with less of a gap than Obama and he declared mandates and muscled through legistlation? Why doesn't Obama have the balls that Bush did?

What is wrong with Dem leadership!?

What is wrong with Dem leadership!?
Posted by andyuhenet

After being in the minority for the better part of the last 20 years and the end of the last dem president's term bein mired in sex scandal, they don't know how to lead. Its a real shame.

"Why don't you grab a mop? Why don't you help clean up?

"You're not mopping fast enough," the president said, imitating his critics' comments.

"That's a socialist mop.


So what if it's a socialist mop, the zero jokes.


HOW is HC 'reform' cleaning up a 'previous' mess?

#37 | Posted by woke at 2009-10-17 02:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Whining again because his Messiah has balls the size of peas

"well connected Democrats who talk anonymously to the press" = Republicans

I respect jimmy carter far more than these corporate assholes. He at least tried. He failed, but at least he tried.

...one White House adviser said, "Those bloggers need to take off their pajamas, get dressed...

And another thing. I work on Rosh Hashanah, even when there isn't a a global economic crisis to avert and a $700B bailout bill on my desk.

The Democratic Party has 4 interests to deal with.

1- American interests and American workers first,
2- Israel first,
3- War profiteers such as Feinstein and Harman first.
4- Wall Street bankers first.

As long as #1 (interests of Americans) is LAST, the DNC and the Rahm Emmanuel party hacks believe they are on the right track to longevity and success.

Average Americans need to bend over sacrifice and take their medicine as they've been doing for 30 years.

Why doesn't Obama have the balls that Bush did?
What is wrong with Dem leadership!?

#41 | POSTED BY ANDYUHENET AT 2009-10-17 04:21 PM

Perhaps, because Obama promised change from the politics of spite and the politics of ramming thru a less than mandated agenda, saying he wanted bipartisanship.

As far as who has balls and who has not, uh, how did that bull in the china shop, do what we want attitude work out for the last regime? How about the contract ON American repug congress....how did that work out to attack our own potus (much like what is being done now) as terrorists amassed against us?

Finally, those who believe "balls" are more important than brains, strategy and diplomacy, should stop and think about how, "bring em on" worked out.

Discretion is the better part of valor.
Falstaff


It ain't over til' it's over.
Yogi Berra

The key to future Democratic Party success is putting the needs of the USA, of average Americans, using common sense, and of principles of integrity and open government first.

Anything else is going to push the Democrats out the office. The real beneficiaries don't care because they own the GOP too. For them going from one Party to another becomes only a temporary inconvenience and trade-off.

Until the USA has a third Party option that advertises Party planks that will benefit our country, and not only the elite, we will decline as both an economic power and a credible government.

Ross Perot anyone?

The whole jackass party is rotten to the core, that's why they can't agree on anything together.
Whiners, liars, thieves, cheaters, gripers, accusers, everything dirty and rotten, maybe they will they just split, and go to hell, that's about all their good for anyway...

A third party will not help.

The people have to be willing to fight for it.

The reason the dems aren't in lock step, like the indoctrinated repugs who allowed the neocons to mesmerize them during nixon's tenure, is DIVERSITY of religion, philosphy and nationality, and other characteristics that make up the melting pot of America. I hesitate to say race, because we are all of the human race. In other words the difference is in being able to think for oneself, and being willing to stand up against the flow and speak truth to power if need be.

Please, give me a break. The dems are no better then the repubs and the fact that you align yourself so strongly with them just reveals that you don't think for youself. If anyone thinks for themselves its' the independents that will constructively criticize both parties when they're out of line

The facts are that neoconservative doctrine took over the repug party and then the us policies for the last 30+ years....*

*nixon/agnew/ford-8 years>>criminal regime subverted election process
carter=4 years
*reagan/bush41/quayle=12 years QUADTRUPLED national debt
*clinton/gore/contract ON American congress=8 years (clinton signed all neocon legislation
*bush43/hallichainy=8 years (subverted election process and too many failures to list including DOUBLING national debt to 10 trillion by jan 20, 2009


That's 36 years of neocon failures (trickle down/voodoo, preemptive, deregulation, tax breaks for the rich, no corporate or banking oversight, energy speculation, short term profit taking, outsourcing jobs, off shore offices, etc, etc...


It's all carter's fault, eh MATSOP?

pretty funny

Whether dem or repug, anyone who still embraces these failed neocon policies should be run out of office...

Apparently repugs have no new ideas or just gonna throw up obstacles/say no??

I don't think I even mentioned Carter's name. Actually, I agree with you about some of the items on the list about repub's failures. However, you don't list the failures of the dems which rank right up there with the repubs. Both groups have placed this country in an untenable situation and now the dems are in the process of their carnage.

Matsop-
Hmmm. After eight years of total Republican domination and twenty-thirty years of "conservative" ideas in ascendancy, but a recent eight months of a Democratic government, you throw up your hands and claim they all suck.

Seems like a convenient out for you and the people you backed for a few decades.

Matsop has to go back thirty years to blame the left; and he does so in order to ignore the thirty years since then.

I guess you are missing my point, which isn't to say dems or repugs have done better or worse, but that the basic philosophy of the policies over the last 4 decades has been neoconservative doctrine as outlined eventually in their PNAC. Even after the failures of the reagan/bush41 era...(read my lips, no new taxes...and ...uh, uh, "i don't recall" whether we violated our laws by directly circumventing the legislation of congress)

yet, i don't see the repug party embracing any other ideas and much of the socalled "libertarian" economic positions are much similar to the neoconservative dogma.....no taxes, bankrupt the govt to shrink it, etc..

Sorta seems like the former republican voters who want to now distance themselves from the neocon/repug failures are calling themselves "libertarians" and calling for third party action, instead of just taking back the repug party from the neos.....and kicking the hate/fear monger talking heads to the curb....

dems are showing how diverse and scattered (large tent) party of the people they are ....but that is certainly less efficient at achieving their aims than all walking lock step....

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

As the dems and Obama are being labled commies/socialists/debtors, etc......what other "new" ideas besides the failed ones are the repugs/libertarians offering?

Woke, once again you messed up. I see no where in what I wrote that I supported the last 20 years of repub policies. If you understood anything about the failures of the past 15 years it was a combination of wallstreet, government, and the fed. Unfortunately, you turn a blind eye to the role played by your darlings. Unfortunately, when individuals on both side (ala you as well) don't accept responsibility for the failures in your own backyard, there is no hope for reform or returning this country to those with integrity.

Woke, I apologize, it was beteljuice that made insinuations he couldn't support.

Matsop-
re: I see no where in what I wrote that I supported the last 20 years of repub policies.

Did you vote for Republicans in the last thirty years of their dominance? I would wager that you did.

Matsop-
You can start with the elections of 2000, 2004, etc.

Sorry to disappoint you beteljuice but i'm an independent and split my ticket. This might stun you but as one example, I voted for George Mcgovern. What guys like you don't get is that a small minority of people in this country are not tied to one philosophy or party and (ala what Woke wrote) "stand up against the flow and speak truth to power if need be." The flow often has a stench to it both from the left and right when their positions are so hardened that they can't see the fallacies of some of their own positions and some of the positives of their opponents positions.

This might stun you but as one example, I voted for George Mcgovern.

I don't give a shit who you voted for forty years ago. It only calls attention to the fact that you don't want to talk about who you voted for in the more recent decades.

Matsop-
I don't recall you pointing to the "stench" from "
the left and right", etc. in 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002..2001......

Aaaah, Beteljuice, you're losing it-- insecure individuals normally resort to verbal aggression when they've placed themselves in a nonlogical and irrational position based on their assumptions.

LOL. You are all about the "both parties suck" angle a few months after it has become clear to you that you lost elections.

Cry me a fucking river.

Sorry, I haven't lost anything the last 15- 20 years-- it's the whole country that has and nothing much is going to improve over the next 5-10 years if you happen to know anything about economics.

Liberals are the masters of telling you what to think.

Commonsense and deductive reasoning are always absent from their baseless, shallow and mostly delusional diatribes.

MSNBC is for sale. Enough said.

#8 | Posted by aclusux at 2009-10-17 09:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

What would you call "Obama wants to kill my grandma"?

Deductive?

After eight years of total Republican domination and twenty-thirty years of "conservative" ideas in ascendancy, but a recent eight months of a Democratic government, you throw up your hands and claim they all suck.
#58 | Posted by BetelG
just wondering . . ya appear indoctrinated by talking points

a) the Dems (including Obama) have controlled the Fed Gvt nearly 4 yrs.
b) every dime of Fed spending originates in the House
c) yes, the exec branch does have exec powers - - but without taxpayer cash, they remain pipe-dreams

btw, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FEDERAL MONEY

the Fed Gvt has NO money other than what they TAKE from ustaxpayers, or borrow in our name

btw II, it's a total shame what the Fed Gvt has done TO poorer urban citizens

btw III, it's curious that during Obama's Senate term, when it was his job to write legislation, not even a rough draft of health reform was penned.
but, when he gets the call to be an executive - he suddenly has the urge to create legislation

MARKH

Why don't you go to obama's campaign page and realize that reforming healthcare was one of the major plank of his platform that he was elected by an overwhelming majority of American voters on.??

www.barackobama.com


Now, consider what 7% of 130 million is...that wouid be 7 times 1.3 million or 9.1 million American voters.

Then consider the few, loudmouthed, goofballs holder obama as hitler signs and trying to shout down healthcare debate. Do you believe they are a majority in this country? If so, where was that majority last November?

And if you believe the sour grapes, in part racists, in part rw extremist fringe people who show up to tea parties on holidays are a majority, where's your proof?

Both of these groups are astroturf, not grass roots, being goosed by media talking heads to oppose policies that are in THEIR OWN best interests.

Intelligent, eh?


Don't like taxes? Then quit using roads, bridges, police, fire, schools, or any business or enterprise subsidized by the American govt. Also, quit having your bank deposits guaranteed by FDIC and hope the govt doesn't bail them out so you lose your pension, lose your deposits and have only your next paycheck if you are lucky to still have a job after 36 years of failed neoconservative doctrines running our policies. You can probably cash it a walmart if it's still open after our govt fails completely. Then all you no tax, no government fellas will finally get what you clamor for and will be happy, eh?


...Obama...getting nothing done like Clinton -- #36 | Posted by rcade

HUH?? NO ONE believed when Clinton took office that he could wipe out the Reagan/Bush deficits without imposing hardships on ordinary Americans that would be tantamount to committing political suicide. If you have already forgotten the Clinton economic expansion, you must be completely out of touch with the huge number of Americans whose suffering began under the Bush administration.

Clinton did it with Gingrich breathing down his back, and 6 years of a Republican majority in Congress. Remember the budget standoff, when Clinton let federal offices close rather than back down on his economic agenda?

It's not clear that Obama cares enough about anything but his own "above the fray" image to take on the Republican MINORITY that way. My take: he's so good at projecting "cool and detached" because he really is cool and detached. But a more charitable interpretation is that he's trying to be everything to everyone, and as a result, isn't doing anything for anyone.

That he is taking flak from all sides shows independence and that he is most likely doing what is best for all Americans, imho.

Whining again because his Messiah has balls the size of peas
#44 | Posted by vernon | Flag: Known to Playmates as "BB Balls"

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