Apparently patient protection from charlatans in Texas is non existent. These nurses showed the true calling of their profession---putting patient care first.

The Texas Medical Board acted as expected, cover the doctors ass at all costs.

Punk Boy went home a long time ago.

Good thing for you that Goat went home today and won't be back for a couple of weeks.

#2 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2009-10-17 01:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

His little punk ass challenged me on a bet, then backed out when called. I made a statement about what I believed would happen on Dec 21, 2012, and he challenged my beliefs and said he would bet $1000 I was wrong. Then he tried to changge the bet by changing what would qualify as one of my beliefs and used it to back his little punk ass out of the bet.

One of my beliefs was that aliens would reveal themselves---aliens that created us in their image and in their likeness as stated in the Enuma Elish.

Punk Boy tried to change the challenge to my beliefs by saying the aliens couldn't look like us. A real punk move. The odds against ANY kind of aliens revealing themselves during a specific narrow time period are so long that almost any odds should be given. Punk boy whined about ME setting the conditions, when he challenged my beliefs. Saying it was unfair that the bet concerned my beliefs---the very beliefs he said were wrong. He challenges my beliefs then whines about making a bet on my beliefs--and wants the aliens to be SPECIAL aliens. That's why he is Punk Boy.

I would say its a good thing for him that he left. When his punk ass comes back, I'll hand it to him---again.

LOL

#20 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-10-18 12:34 AM | Reply | Flag

I missed the funny part. My sense of humor must not be as acute as yours. Could you explain so I can get a chuckle too?

"One of my beliefs was that aliens would reveal themselves---aliens that created us in their image and in their likeness as stated in the Enuma Elish."

Is Buffalo Bob serious?

#14 | Posted by furio at 2009-10-17 06:59 PM | Reply | Flag

Absolutely--I said the aliens of the Sumerians and Mayans were the same race, and we were made in their image and in their likeness, like the Enuma Elish states. Since they were the source for the prediction they might choose that date to reveal themselves. Of course I had other scenarios that were possible also for the sate Dec 21, 2012. Super Volcano eruption, gamma ray burst, or large metoer impact.

Goatman was on your side, and willing to bet me $1000 I was wrong. He even was willing to give 100-1 odds, and I bet $50 to his $5000. An easy $50. But then Goatman said the aliens couldn't look like us or the bet was off. Seems Goatman thinks the liklihood of aliens is quite possible and weaseled out of his challenge. That's why I call him Punk Boy. If you challenge and then weasel out---you are a punk.

How about yourself. Does your confidence reach to your wallet? I will offer you the same odds as Goatman, and you can pick up an easy $50. Or are YOU afraid aliens might reveal themselves to us on that particular date also? Can you be serious?

I make that offer to anyone--I have even offered similar bet to CalifChris on terms she started---so far it seems her courage is lacking to complete the bet---but not enough to stop her laughing about the possibility. So since such an event is so ridiculous---how about accepting the bet and the odds. If $5000 is too much on your end. I would accept any bet down to $100 on your end and $1 on my end. Put up or shut up--as the saying goes. I know Murphy doesn't have that courage--she only has the courage to snark at ideas that don't conform to her narrow views.

they work FOR THE PYISICIAN and the HOSPITAL gets their income from the physicians charges.

#23 | Posted by richardrhine at 2009-10-18 01:29 AM | Reply | Flag

Yeah--where does the hospital and doctor get their income from? If you ay insurance companies--where do the insurance companies get their income from?

Some nurses put the patient first--even before themselves. I hope all the nurses you get put the doctor and hospital as priorities above your care and well being.

CalifChris

Since we have agreed in principle, I suggest the following conditions, susceptible to your agreement

If I lose, I would pay you your dinner in Vegas as you suggested earlier. We both get there on our own and pay for our own rooms.

If you lose, you can cook ten dinners for me at the location of your choice, as long as it is in the United States, and not Alaska or Hawaii. The cooking could include breakfast, lunch, and dinner, so it wouldn't have to be 10 days in a row. The time of year would be agreed on by both of us, so as to conform to vacation time and weather.

As to the odds--yes, you are corect--I would lose little, but there is little chance of me being correct. However, if it is the aliens revealing themselves, there would be a good chance that we might both survive the event. From what I understand of the aliens, it all depends on which faction is in charge if that is the case. There is the "good" alien faction which created us, and saved us from the Flood, and the "bad" alien faction that kicked us out of the Garden of Eden and tried to kill us in the Flood.

You can suggest other conditions, and the bet will be finalized when we both agree to all conditions.

Let's put it this way---I hope you win.

Repeating the lie over and over about doesn't make it so, bOoB. As you know, here's exactly what happened:

I made a wager.
You set a condition to that wager
I did not agree to that condition
You said I weaseled out

#31 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-18 02:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

You are lying as usual. Here is what actually happened and the posts to back it up.

I was commenting on the 2012 Mayan thread, and not even talking to you when I made these statements.

Since these gods of the Mayans and Sumerians have the same source, and these gods are aliens, I believe that Dec 21, 2012 will be the day they reveal themselves to humanity, and tell us the reason for that revelation.

Other options would be a pole reversal that the alien scientists were able to predict---the explosion of a super volcano they had the capability to predict---or a gamma ray burst they had the capability to predict. Of them all, the gamma ray burst would kill the most people. Only those with an undergound living space and years of food supplies would survive.

I'm willing to take the laughter for this belief for the next few years, and chances are, I won't get the chance to say "I told you so" if I am correct. But if you are one of those who are around to greet 2013 after the shit hits the fan, you will know "Buffalo Bob told you so".

#35 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-10-13 12:02 AM | Reply | Flag

Then in the very next post, you challenged my beliefs--saying they were wrong and that you would bet $1000. Here is the important part of that post.

I'll bet you $1000 you are wrong. You have nothing to lose if you truly believe in your convictions.

We on?

#36 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-13 12:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

So--you challenge my beliefs, then you want to change what my beliefs are to conform to your liking. I initially said the aliens would look like us---you initially said I was wrong and bet $1000. When called, you backed out. That makes you a Punk Boy.

That's what happened Punk Boy--anyone can pook at the posts and see your lies.

I even reduced the odds to 20-1, so you wouldn't have to pay more than the original $1000, and you still punked out.

So what really happened was this.

I made statements.
You challenged the statements.
I accepted your challenge and tried to set terms.
You punked out, trying to change the statements you challenged.

You really think there is a liklihood aliens that look like us will reveal themselves on Dec21-Dec 23, 2012? Is that why you are refusing the bet? That was my statement---that was your challenge---that was your punk out Punk Boy.

Then either post where you & Goatman agreed to all conditions, or admit the bet was never finalized.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-18 02:16 AM | Reply | Flag

I never said it was finalized did I? I said he made a challenge and then backed off when called. He challenged my statements as wrong, then tried to change the statements I made.

But you seemed to think I backed out when there was no agreement as to how much the bet would be, even though nothing was finalized. I guess you see nothing wrong with talking out of both sides of your mouth. You should have been a ventriloquist instead of a Punk Boy supporter.

I'll tell you what, bob.

If aliens land in 2012 and make themselves known(no art bell non provable stuff, I mean actually mainstream media proof) I'll pay 100 dollars to the charity of your choice.

If 2012 goes by and no aliens announce themselves, you pay 100 dollars to a charity of my choice. Everybody wins.

Deal?

#37 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2009-10-18 02:38 AM | Reply | Flag

Actually, I've done a lot of gambling in my life. It would be against my principles to accept a bet like that with no odds. However, I'll give you better odds than I gave Punk Boy. I gave him 20-1, and that's a real bargain considering the odds of aliens revealing themselves during a particular time period, plus there were other options available in that challenge. But considering the recipient of the bet between you and me, no matter what charity, I would take 10-1 odds from you. That would mean if I bet 100 and you accept, you would pay $1000 to charity. If I lose I would pay $100 to charity. I would make that the maximum bet, but you can choose any amount below that you like.

The bet would be 10-1 odds in my favor. The aliens would be absolutely mainstream, with spaceships and no question they are aliens---but they may look like us. That has always been my contention, and what the ancients said. Actually, if you give me all of 2012, I will make the odds 5-1. If you accept, we have a bet.

Wait...you admit "there was no agreement", yet claimed he "backed out"?!?

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-18 02:39 AM | Reply | Flag

Yes---he made a challenge--the challenge was accepted, and he backed out. There was no agreement on the amount, but hat doesn't mean he didn't back out of the challenge. I even lowered the bet to his $1000. Punk Boy still declined. What part don't you understand. What part confuses you? Look at post #35 and explain where there was no challenge, and explain how you think he didn't back off.

I would bet him a penny to twenty cents. He would still back down. The challenge was made and accepted---then he backed off the challenge. That makes him a Punk Boy.

It would be like me challenging you to a race, then backing off the challege when you accept the challenge to race me. The terms have nothing to do with making a challenge and backing off the challenge.

Bob if aliens come I will drive to your house and tape 100 to your front door.

#44 | Posted by jackass at 2009-10-18 03:32 AM | Reply | Flag

Since that is an offer, and not a bet, I accept. Then I will take that $100 and take us to a moderately priced restaurant for a decent meal and leave a large tip.

Actually just kidding about you buying all those drinks. I can have a drink whenever I feel like it -- and did my share back in my barhopping days when I'd go out and party on the weekends. But now I don't really drink at all anymore. Just don't feel like it. But I don't care who else does, though, as a lot of my friends like to drink.

#45 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-10-18 03:35 AM | Reply | Flag

I got all of my drinking done in my younger days. I don't like what a fool it makes of me the night before, or the pain it gives me the next day.

I'd like to know who, and in what scientific manner, converted the Mayan calander to the Roman calander (which is a best guess and probably off by a few hundred years) and came up with such a definitive date as December 21, 2012.

#41 | Posted by Twinpac at 2009-10-18 02:58 AM | Reply | Flag

I would say that the people who converted the calendar are the same ones who used it to accurately predict modern eclipses.

The date of Dec 21, 2012, coincides with the sun rising in direct line with the center of our galaxy. An event that happens only once in every 25,920 years.

No, it would be like you challenging me to a race, and then trying to impose unilateral terms, like starting at the half-way point. Until ALL terms are agreed upon, you don't have an agreement.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-18 03:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

Not at all. It is exactly as I said. He challenged my beliefs. I imposed no new unilateral conditions.

Again--I never said it was finalized---being finalized has nothing to do with his backing out. He made a challenge than backed out. I imposed no new unilateral conditions on the challenge he made.

What new unilateral conditions do you see me imposing?

You imposed unilateral conditions after that post: odds. Before he accepted past that point, he asked for clarification. That's where the negotiation broke down.

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-18 03:52 AM | Reply | Flag

Nope---the odds weren't the problem--he accepted the odds. If he had declined the odds, there would have been no problem, and I wouldn't consider him to ba a Punk Boy. Odds are always negotiable. Here is Punk Boys' acceptance of the odds.

I'll pay you $100,000. If I'm right and there is not a global disaster that day, you pay me $1,000

Deal, then?

#40 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-13 12:35 AM | Reply | Flag

Again, the odds and amount are always negotiable before finalization, and have nothing to do with punking out on the challenge.

If I challenge you to a race, and you want 1000-1 odds, and I decline, that isn't punking out on the challenge--I would still race you if I could get better odds. Punk boy wouldn't make the bet even when I gave him better odds. As stated I would bet him a penny to twenty cents. He backed off the challenge. Big difference. The difference makes him a Punk Boy.

So the odds weren't why Punk Boy punked out. He punked out when he tried to change what I believed in. He tried to change the statements I made, and he challenged. There were no new unilateral changes. In fact, we focused on the statements I made, to make the outcome more precise. He backed out on my conviction that the aliens would look like us--the odds had nothing to do with it.

Danforth

Listen dumbass How many times do I have to say there was never a deal. There was a challenge and he backed out of the challenge he made. I made it as simple as I could with the race analogy. I have never said the deal was finalized. I have never pretended there was a deal. I have always said he made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made. Get it dumb ass. let me make it a little clearer. Maybe it will sink in sooner or later.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

The bet was never finalized. Punk Boy made a challenge and backed out of the challenge he made.

BoOb, you're an idiot. In the original thread, you actually suggested I was "weaseling out". Even though we never made any bet at all.

"How about that bet Danforth---weaseling out?"

That was post #245. There was never any bet between us.

G'nite, BoOb.

#61 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-18 05:13 AM | Reply | Flag

Just as there was never any bet between me and Punk Boy.

I only to made that proposition to make the point that you were too dim to grasp earlier when Punk Boy made the same type of proposal to me and you accused me of backing down. I simply made the same type proposal to you to show you there was no bet. You were too stupid to grasp either concept. Run along dUmMy--Punk Boy might need something kissed.

Yes I did back out of the challenge because you set a condition that was unacceptable to me. Does that make me a weasel? No. Does that make me a 'punk'? No. Does you calling me these things make you appear to be a spoiled brat crybaby who is bawling and whining because he didn't get his way? Yes.

#66 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-18 05:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

The condition was there when you made the challenge Punk Boy. It was nothing new. There was nothing added by me after the challenge was made.

1. I made some statements

2. You challenged the statements

3. Then you weaseled out of the challenge.

Bob arguing aliens and Mayan calendars. IMO This tops the animal husbandry and Sohie's bragging about his wedding photos

#68 | Posted by furio at 2009-10-18 09:26 AM | Reply | Flag

You can get in on the bet too Furio. Easy money. I want 100-1 odds that aliens will reveal themselves between Dec 21, and Dec 23 2012, since it isn't the same date all over the world because of the International Dateline. You can bet up to $5000 to my $50 as a maximum bet. I think 100-1 is very reasonable considering the what the bet is concerned with. It is such a ridiculous idea--how can you pass up such a bet? Let me know what your decision is. I would say that if you decline, you must think such a thing is possible, and should really stop mocking such a concept.

No. BoOb, you merely proved you want to call other people "weasel", whether there is reason or not.

#69 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-18 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag

Actually, you are the only one who called anyone a weasel. I said Punk Boy weaseled out, using it as a verb, not a noun. Sgow me where I called anyone a weasel. Would you like me to show where you called Me a weasel? I call Punk Boy his new name because he earned it. I think you may be Punk Boy II with your idiot posts supporting him.

No. BoOb, you merely proved you want to call other people "weasel", whether there is reason or not.

#69 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-18 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag

Saying someone is weaseling out is not calling them a weasel. Facts are facts. I call him Punk Boy--not weasel. By his own admission he backed out of a challenge he made. You are the only one calling anyone weasel.

How the fuck do I get on Bubbalo BoOb's ignore list?

#77 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-18 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag

Just don't mention my name in any of your posts. Just don't talk to me. Ignore me and I'll ignore you. If you hadn't started this, I would never have talked to you in the first place. Simple isn't it.

I spotted a stupid statement postulating that a polar shift could occur on dec 21 2012. Let me say, from a geology perspective, polar shifts take millenia to fully switch. over those years dipole magnetism gradually weakens into multiple poles before a total switch.

well, pretty much everything bob said was stupid, but the polar shifts occuring on a specific date, or even within a single human life time is laughably retarded.

#74 | Posted by JesusIsGod at 2009-10-18 01:59 PM | Reply | Flag

A polar shift was one of the many options---all of them fantatic long shots. However, The bet is still open to those much wiser than me. All you have to do is give me 100-1 odds on any of the scenarios I mentioned below, With a $5000 limit on your liability. Easy money for those with courage.

1. Aliens reveal themselves to humanity

This has to be a "take me to your leader" (not literal words, of course) type event. I.E. no UFOs, and an irrefutable spaceship that has landed somewhere. It would have to prove itself with some sort of unforeknown technology -- but a spaceship would fit that bill

Agreed. In fact, there would have to be interaction between humans and the aliens, and the aliens would be on every news channel.

2. Pole reversal.

Given. No chance of misunderstanding there. I presume you mean the N magnetic pole becomes the S magnetic pole, right? No problem with that.

Yes--exactly--agreed.

3. Explosion of a Super Volcano, such as the one at Yellowstone

You realize when that one goes, it is supposed to take most of Wyoming right? OK. I'm good for that one. And yes, it can be anywhere in the world.

Agreed.

4. Gamma Ray burst.

Astronomers see these all the time. I presume you mean one that wipes out a large portion of life, right? If so, OK

Exactly--the gamma ray bursts astonomers see do not have any effect on this planet. The one in our agreement would be devastating. If this is the scenario I doubt either of us will be around to pay.

5. Asteroid or comet impact

Again, these happen daily -- dozens a day in fact. So it would have to be a sizable object -- let's say 100 meters in diameter or greater. That would probably cause a global disaster.

Agreed---it would have to be larger than Tunguska.

If you agree to the dates involved, Dec 21-Dec23, 2012---we have a bet if you set the amount within the limits specified. Agreed?

Not good enough, BoOb. What do I have to do to get on your "ignore" list, so that even if I make the stupid mistake of trying to engage someone who nitpicks between nouns and verbs (as if that somehow negates the tone), I won't be subjected to someone intent on being such a jackass?

#82 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-10-18 09:24 PM | Reply | Flag

Unfortunately Punk Boy has ruined the original plan of the List by attacking me daily for months on end with his namecalling and idiocy without any response from me whatsoever.

Let me go over the revised rules of my list.

1. I won't talk to you unless you talk to me first---even then I may not respond.

2, The people on my List are there because they have demonstrated a complete inability to debate in a civilized manner, or respond in logical terms You qualify.

So rest assured, even in most personal attacks, you will be ignored, since that's all you have anyway. But if you repeat your idiocy again and again and again, as you did with our most recent encounter, you will have your ass handed to you again.

Dead serious Actual belief in Mayan/Summerian alien revelation in 2012 is a TAME statement by Buffalo Bob.

#87 | Posted by USAF242 at 2009-10-19 10:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

And yet you fail to accept the bet, even when you can set the amount you risk. Why is that?

No you didn't. You asked HIM to give YOU 20-1 odds. Odd that someone who has "done a lot of gambling in [his] life," doesn't understand how to use the jargon correctly.

#90 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2009-10-19 12:29 PM | Reply | Flag

It was understood that the long odds are against aliens showing up, and I was the one offering odds options--starting out at 100-1 with Punk Boy, and finally lowering the odds to 20-1. You are correct in saying that he would be giving me 20-1 if he had accepted, but I was the one suggesting the numbers. When I was talking to Punk Boy I said---give me 100-1 odds, and in the end I said make it 20-1. I doubt there was much confusion as to who would be paying the 100, or the 20. If you and I ever make a bet on anything, the odds and the particulars will be clear upon acceptance, and that is what really matters. Again, you are corect in saying I didn't present the odds clearly in that statement--a carelessness that would have been made crystal clear before finalization.

He wants to bet on Mayan Calender specific space aliens showing up in 2012? Fine, I gave him a bet. ANY Mayan Calender specific ACTUAL space aliens show up in 2012, he wins.....

#94 | Posted by USAF242 at 2009-10-19 02:26 PM | Reply | Flag

First, I don't think the aliens--if they show--will say anything about the Mayan calendar--even if they are the Mayan gods. Second, the odds against any aliens showing up are very very long---I couldn't accept an even odds bet on such long odds. I would offer you the same bet you offered me. If aliens show, I'll pay $1000 to charity, if they don't show you pay $1000 to charity. I doubt you would accept such odds either.

That's what odds do---or should do----make it hard to choose which side to take. Like points in a football game. You could have won big last Saturday if you had taken Purdue, and given 7 points against Ohio State, you could probably retired.

So--to answer your question--I decline your offer of even odds against aliens landing--I need odds. I actually think the 50-1 odds I am offering against aliens landing is a gift---that's why I'm limiting the maximum amount to %5000 on your part to $50 on my part. I think the true odds are more like 10,000 to one.

It's Maya, not 'Mayan' you idiots.

Damn, when WILL I get the order to blow this place?
2012?

Oh.

OK.

#98 | Posted by Zorg_the_Vogon at 2009-10-19 03:33 PM | Reply | Flag

The people are called the Maya, but much like someone from Alaska, they are called an Alaskan. or someone from California could be called a Californian, or someone from Oklahoma could be called an Oklahoman. Calling it the Mayan calendar is not such a big deal, and many reputable websites call it that.

Bob has done this with the space alien babylonian stuff..

Ray went off into the weeds with silver..

funny.tehjunk.com

#104 | Posted by Legio at 2009-10-19 07:00 PM | Reply | Flag

First--I wasn't the first to jump this thread off the tracks, that was done in the second post. Second--I posted this thread anyway.