Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs

Americans are still debating whether to roll up their sleeves for a swine flu shot, but companies have already figured it out: Vaccines are good for business. Drug companies have sold $1.5 billion worth of swine flu shots, in addition to the $1 billion for seasonal flu they booked earlier this year. "The vaccine market is booming," says market researcher Bruce Carlson. "It's an enormous growth area for pharmaceuticals at a time when other areas are not doing so well."

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Yeah and I'll bet this "Vaccine" ain't worth a lick much less a stick. Oh and how do we know it's safe?? Because Kathlene Sebielus says so?? What a Gas.

Larry

"Vaccines are good for business"


--Funeral Home lobby of America

The vaccination program in the U.S. (and the developed world) is a victim of its own success.

I'll use an exceptionally nasty, proven dangerous vaccine as an example.

Given that I said "nasty" and "proven dangerous", you might think I'm talking about the anthrax vaccine. If so, you are wrong.

The Small Pox vaccine, even when it is given in ideal circumstances, is a nasty one, with a MUCH higher than normal incident of adverse side effects. Yet on a planet with small pox, it takes an idiot to not get it for themselves and their children.

Because the only resouvour of small pox in nature was in humans, we were able to irradicate it (sadly not possible with many other diseases)

But the truth is that vaccines have so reduced the incident of certain diseases, that people have started to make an issue of the risks of the vaccines THEMSELVES. Asking for improved vaccines is fine. BUT IT TAKES AN IDIOT TO NOT GET VACCINATED.

As for the preservative chemical issue, the folks that spout that fall into two catagories: They also believe in Chem-Trails (Van Jones....), and/or they despirately NEED someone to BLAME for their kid's disorders.

Well said USAF.

Why is this news?

jpw would be wise to remain silent. He was already badly exposed in the previous thread on the topic.

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Also, here:

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evil Drug companies again,why dosn't obama take them over.

The 'sex' part of my brain took over when scanning the headlines. I first thought it read "Vaginas are big business". I need to get off of this rig and get laid.

" I need to get off of this rig and get laid."

You should have a beer with Jackass, I'm sure he can hook you up. LOL

You should have a beer with Jackass, I'm sure he can hook you up

mmmm. Border whores.

I'll let JA keep 'em.

Considering the history of the corporate media AMERICANS WOULD HAVE TO BE IDIOTS TO BELIEVE ANYTHING IT SAYS!

So, because of the SWINE flu, there is now a push to get as many PEOPLE as possible immunized against the flu as possible!

(Well, the only influenza you can get now is the OTHER flu that doesn't even cover the swine flu, it is almost like:

O no! we spent THOUSANDS of dollars crated this worthless vaccine and the SWINE vaccine will be out shortly we have to get as many people vaccinated as possible (with this worthles vaccine) or NO one will wnat it and we will loose MILLIONS.!

Healthcare at its best... really sad.

Nationalize Vaccine Production!!!

Why doesn't the US Govt "Nationalize" vaccine production? Why should there be any obscene profits made by anybody off a vaccine that was produced to fight off what Big Pharma terms a deadly disease! Vaccines are not newly invented or propriatory drugs or treatments - so why shouldn't a government owned and run lab produce them at cost or for free???




When free health care arrives, vaccines
will be free as well. About time!

Be Well.


Big business indeed. Desiree Jennings hoped to be a Washington Redskins Cheerleader. What stopped her? Her job and the corporate media shills. "Her job offered incentives for the shot and she didn't want to get sick".

A One-In-a-Million-Shot

Exposed as what, contrarian? Smart enough to see through your bullshit?

On the measles thread you never provide a link to back your claim that the Protecting America in the War on Terror Act prevents payments to people who have been injured by vaccines. All you say is this:

The Protecting America in the War on Terror Act of 2005. Inexplicably included with this legislation was a new law to revoke any future vaccine claim against any pharmaceutical company for injury or death!

and

Then you later explain away my ascertion that the Patriot Act trumped any possible compensation: That's because it's not drawing its funding from lawsuits against the pharmaceutical companies.

In your first statement you assert it prevents lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies, not lawsuits in general. Then you say it prevents ANY compensation. You're not even internally consistent (not surprising to everyone else, I know...).

In the doctors thread, you claim you debunked the notion that the Vaccine injury board is still hearing cases and giving out compensation by siting the other thread and ignoring requests for links.

So how about you post the link to the bill with the section sited for everyone to read. You haven't debunked shit until you do and you'll continue to talk out your ass until you do.

But I'm guessing you'll revel in your delusions of grandeur and continue to believe you've won any debate.

go away, jpw. you're exposed. Your star "doctor" is an anonymous self-proclaimed eccentric named Orac! This is from the site you provided as your key evidence to debunk the "anti-vaccine whackos".

San Fransisco Airport had stations today where for $35 you could get a flu shot

For everyone else that doesn't care to follow a long discussion thread. Here's the anonymous eccentric expert that he provided:

About Orac

THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS??? Hell they are going for 25 here. Why the 10 dollar increase??

go away, jpw. you're exposed.

As what?

BTW no link=talking out your ass

Your star "doctor" is an anonymous self-proclaimed eccentric named Orac!

Why do you put doctor in quotes? Unlike Tenpenny, he's an actual MD.

And I never called him my star doctor. I gave the link with the admission that it wasn't the greatest but was what I had off the top of my head.

This is from the site you provided as your key evidence to debunk the "anti-vaccine whackos".

No, just Tenpenny.

Also, see above.

My god, you mean someone in america is going to try to profit from media ratings generated hysteria?

*does an exact impression of the artist having a heart attack in Monty Python's Holy Grail*

JPW, you ask, as what? How about a propagandist and a fraud. You get a "pass" with some people (I'm sure some of which are just "humoring you" to see what information you are able to present) because you have studied your propaganda talking points so well, perhaps even got some formal training(??) (i.e. you can speak to some of the science aspects that you know others aren't aware of so you can twist the science in your favor and nobody is the wiser of it).... I did the same google search you did to find anyone who might try to discredit the anti-vaccine movement. Your mistake was you dumbly picked one randomly of the first to pop up and didn't bother to see that the guy is a 'raving lunatic', discrediting himself on his own 'About me' page! All by his own admission: He is anonymous, goes by the pseudo-name Orac, never gives his name or his accreditation, admits that nobody even pays any attention to him, never talks about the science or basis that he can discredit any anti-vaccine claim, justifies not providing his name so that "google searches don't find this page first", etc, etc, etc. Do I need to go further? You did a piss ass job of picking a character you can only claim is an expert after going on and on about how the anti-vaccine movement has been thoroughly discredited. On top of all of that, you still can't deny the Patriot Act disallows reimbursement from any pandemic vaccine injury or death. You posted the link trying to pass off a story on a reward by the compensation fund - - and try to falsely discredit my statement saying it was 2008 when in fact it was awarded in 2008, but the case preceded the Patriot Act (vaccination in question was in 2000) provision which I clearly repeatedly stated was the case and that it was in 2005. You have never admitted your error, but continue to cover it up. In fact, to hide this, you want to put the onus on me, saying I haven't posted my link. You showed you could Google. I gave you the exact title of the bill that passed as law in 2005. Certainly you could find it, no? Ok, no, actually I made it up, LOL.

Wow, you really are off the deep end.

In regards to Orac and respectful insolence, I actually listed it because I read the blog periodically because it is predominantly about various pseudo-science claims out there and often about vaccines. I admitted it wasn't the greatest, but was the easiest and quickest one to come off the top of my head.

On top of all of that, you still can't deny the Patriot Act disallows reimbursement from any pandemic vaccine injury or death.

Until you provide more than your assertion that this is in fact true, I absolutely can deny it. I looked up the bill, but didn't really feel like reading it all. Considering you're the one making the claim, it is your responsibility to do all the leg work. You haven't. At least own up to that.

You posted the link trying to pass off a story on a reward by the compensation fund - - and try to falsely discredit my statement saying it was 2008 when in fact it was awarded in 2008, but the case preceded the Patriot Act (vaccination in question was in 2000) provision which I clearly repeatedly stated was the case and that it was in 2005.

I presented the case as it was-a judgment handed down in 2008. It contradicts your assertion that the Patriot Act prevents compensation for vaccine injuries and yet you STILL haven't brought any sort of link or evidence that your assertions are true to contradict or clarify the story.

You have never admitted your error, but continue to cover it up.

Because I made no error. You made a claim which I found was contradicted by a recent news story. You've continued to make that claim based on nothing more than your word while denying the story I posted as contradictory evidence.

In fact, to hide this, you want to put the onus on me, saying I haven't posted my link.

Because it IS on you to support your claims and you STILL haven't posted your link. Hell, I'll even take a link to something other than the bill that states what you are stating along with the citations for the sections of the bill it supposedly is contained in. You've yet to provide either.

You showed you could Google. I gave you the exact title of the bill that passed as law in 2005. Certainly you could find it, no? Ok, no, actually I made it up, LOL.

I did find it. Again, it is not my responsibility to find evidence to back or discredit your claim.

Are you not posting the link because one doesn't exist? Did you read that on some quack site and take their word for it? You're doing an awful lot of dancing over a point you seem awfully confident in making. Could it be you've been caught talking out your ass? I think so.

ok jpw, whatever you say. The DR can now decide for themselves.

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