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Competition from thousands of mom-and-pop marijuana farmers in the United States threatens the bottom line for powerful Mexican drug organizations in a way that decades of arrests and seizures have not, according to law enforcement officials and pot growers in the United States and Mexico. Recent changes in state laws that allow the use and cultivation of marijuana for medical purposes are giving U.S. growers a competitive advantage.

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This is the way to win the war on some drugs. Just outgrow the fuckers.

What's the number of medicinal plants a person can grow?

Is it 7 or 9--and they can't be seen by the neighbors?

" they can't be seen by the neighbors?"

WTF? A cannabis plant is porn only to you, Murphy.

Mexico v US?

Like apples and oranges.

Like Schlitz v Dom Perignon

Like Tee-ball v MLB

Like white castle v Kobe beef.

Or so I've heard.

The awesome power of the free market is demonstrated again.

love it...
legalize


domestic herb is and will always be significantly better then that brick garbage from mexico


What's the number of medicinal plants a person can grow?


Is it 7 or 9--and they can't be seen by the neighbors?


#2 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-10-08 10:07 AM


It varies from county to county in CA. I hear up to 100 in Mendocino, 50+ in alot of other locales.

In Humboldt County each patient can grow up to 99 plants...

It is always better if the neighbors can't see or smell them. That is mostly a security issue but some areas have rules that are basically "don't ask don't tell".

If you don't stink up the neighborhood or have weird things going on at your house like loading Uhauls at one in the morning then no one complains. If someone complains then the deputies show up to inspect you.

Do your patriotic duty and grow some pot.

Or do you godless pinko hippies hate America?

Muffy probably has 20 or 30 plants in her house.

How else to explain the stupidity?

This is the way to win the war on some drugs. Just outgrow the fuckers.
#1 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-10-08 09:43 AM

100% agreed. Not only should be buy locally to support our own economy, but our green is far superior to the Mexican cartel crap, imo.

What's the number of medicinal plants a person can grow?
Is it 7 or 9--and they can't be seen by the neighbors?
#2 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-10-08 10:07 AM

Six plants here in Oregon, and you don't want people to know about it - many times the medically needy who grow are victimized by robbery.

Six plants here in Oregon

6 plants PER person you supply. My buddy had his neighbors call the cops on him. They stopped by, looked at his cards, counted the plants and went on their way.

AS

IT

SHOULD

BE

"My buddy had his neighbors call the cops on him"


Did he live in Murphy's neighborhood? She's got WE TIP on speed dial.

We wouldn't let that bitch in the State.

We're heading for the day of reckoning, I'm tellin' ya
It's all building up to something
Something that can only be repeated with fire

"To say that Pot is bad is to say that God fucked up."

YES!! We're Number 1 baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just grow. As much as you can. Flood the country. And give it away to your neighbors. Or at least, for cost.

www.greenpassion.org

#3 | Posted by nullifidian

I am on the record as pro-medicinal pot!

"U.S. Marijuana Growers Costing Mexican Cartels"

Hee hee hee.

Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

end prohibition. end the madness. end the cycle of needlessly filling jails.

- a non smoker

Learn to grow. Make friends and influence people. Make money.

www.rollitup.org

Just grow. As much as you can. Flood the country. And give it away to your neighbors. Or at least, for cost.

I'm not sure I'd be willing to risk a felony conviction of growing and distributing pot just to put the Mexican cartels out of business. I really don't care that much about them one way or the other.

" I really don't care that much about them one way or the other."

Well, nobody asked you in the first place, GoatbOoB.

Well, nobody asked you in the first place, GoatbOoB

???

So? Isn't this a public forum, or as the self apponited spokeswoman, did you also deem it to be the Dullifidian & Friends Show?

Just grow. As much as you can. Flood the country. And give it away to your neighbors. Or at least, for cost.
www.greenpassion.org
#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-10-08 05:49 PM

I've been asked to clone since I can germinate anything into flourishing - so, I give them away. I do want a rare heavy duty frutti seed for upcoming Chronnukah festivities.

I've been asked to clone since I can germinate anything into flourishing - so, I give them away. I do want a rare heavy duty frutti seed for upcoming Chronnukah festivities

"Well, nobody asked you in the first place, robot"

Dullifidian

"Just grow. As much as you can. Flood the country. And give it away to your neighbors. Or at least, for cost."

I'm not sure I'd be willing to risk a felony conviction of growing and distributing pot just to put the Mexican cartels out of business. I really don't care that much about them one way or the other.
#23 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-08 06:12 PM

Since cannabis has been made illegal the drug cartels are stealing the money that would normally stay locally in our own economy. If it were legal they would not. As a law-abiding citizen you should care about that part.

Since cannabis has been made illegal the drug cartels are stealing the money that would normally stay locally in our own economy. If it were legal they would not. As a law-abiding citizen you should care about that part.

So, as a law abiding citizen, I should embrace breaking the law by growing and distributing pot?

*scratching head*

"I've been asked to clone since I can germinate anything into flourishing - so, I give them away. I do want a rare heavy duty frutti seed for upcoming Chronnukah festivities."

Excellent! Spread the word, er, weed.

"Since cannabis has been made illegal the drug cartels are stealing the money that would normally stay locally in our own economy. If it were legal they would not. As a law-abiding citizen you should care about that part."

So, as a law abiding citizen, I should embrace breaking the law by growing and distributing pot?
*scratching head*
#29 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-08 06:33 PM

Do you agree with prohibition and prefer drug cartels profiting?

Every decision has a consequence, and the unwarranted prohibition of cannabis has impacted our economic and societal well-being on many levels. From farmers to fabrication, medical application and nutrition. The law can be wrong, and in this instance it most certainly is.

Happy to see this.

You know it's funny, for decades, those of us who oppose the war on (some) drugs have been arguing a long list of facts as to why that war is a failure and is misguided thinking.

For those same decades, the prohibitionists have said we were wrong.

The free market has spoken. We have been right ALL along.

Print this story out, wrap it around a bat, and ram it up the nearest prohibitionist's asspipe!

Facts, logic and markets win again!

I'm not sure I'd be willing to risk a felony conviction of growing and distributing pot just to put the Mexican cartels out of business.

That's fine, you don't have to, other entrepreneurs will step up.

I'm sure you agree, Goatman, regardless of your role as producer, consumer, or non-participant in the market, putting the Mexican drug cartels out of business is a good thing.

No shit...

Now can we legalize it, tax it, and get on with our lives?

Now can we legalize it, tax it, and get on with our lives?

#34 | Posted by Ari

WE are trying! The point is it IS legal for some of us. Now we need to get on with the "tax it" part. I think most growers would gladly pay the tax on what they produce over a certain amount...say 3 pounds... just like alcohol. After all WE love America and want to do our part!

I bet goatman would care more if we were talking about legalizing beer. But, we have been there done that. Bet Goat would be pissed if the Mexicans outproduced us in beer? Well maybe you like that Mexican pisswater but me...I luvs a good Micro Brew from Humboldt County. Stoners make the best brew too!

"I bet goatman would care more if we were talking about legalizing beer.'

My son grows his own hops.
Now that's a gardener.

My son grows his own hops.

I have a book at home that I bought in HS called, "A Connoisseur's Guide to Marijuana" that tells how you can graft a hops plant to the roots of a pot plant. Apparently the buds on the hops are like pot when they are smoked. Of course the plant is unrecognizable as pot.

Don't know if it's true since I've never tried it, but maybe you can borrow some of your son's hops and do the experiment and let us know, zat. I'm curious.

"My son grows his own hops. "

Sounds like a waste of time. I suppose, though, if you can just throw a few seeds on the ground and then piss on them, it might be worth the effort.

"Sounds like a waste of time"

Not if you're really into beer.

He's getting married Saturday.
I just don't know what to wear.

The wedding's fixed; I have the 'dads' rented tux.
What a production.

No! I can't wear one of my tuxedos. No.
I have to be a part of this production.

OK

The rehearsal dinner, though.
I have these two Brioni jackets I bought in Venice.
Which one?

This is such fun. I've been working in jeans and a t shirt for six years.

"I have these two Brioni jackets I bought in Venice.
Which one?"

Oh. Decisions, decisions. Let's make sure everybody knows I've bought jackettes in Veniceee. LOL.

I would wear the MODEST one.

Wink wink.

He meant Venice, Florida BTW, at Joseph Banks. Brioni is their off label.

What is a brioni jacket?

omg imagine that! taking away the demand for mexican weed really does work. at this point the government should have noticed, so we're only looking at another 20-30 years before the laws are changed.

A jacket that went with a Leisure Suit in the 70's/80's but the pants don't fit now.

Usually a bright yellow or has a pattern with ships on it.


A jacket that went with a Leisure Suit in the 70's/80's but the pants don't fit now.


Usually a bright yellow or has a pattern with ships on it.

#44 | Posted by The_Chapel

What the fuck? Are the 2 Bee Gees touring?

"Are the 2 Bee Gees touring?"

They're providing rhythm for CPR classes.

ER docs prefer Another One Bites the Dust.

Another One Bites the Dust

Applies to Obama czars and appointees..lol


ER docs prefer Another One Bites the Dust.

#47 | Posted by Zatoichi

Darn, and I would have guessed "Show must go on".

Darn, and I would have guessed "Show must go on".

Posted by wisgod at 2009-10-08 08:44 PM

I don't think that is quite up to the cynicism of ER docs.


When I was a kid my dearest friend (He died in '93.) was the son of a physician.

We used to volunteer in the ER.

One night a guy showed up who'd had a fist fight with a gas pump. There are a lot of bones in the human hand. They were all broken. His arms began about three inches above the wrist.

Alcohol is legal. Go figure.


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...what about British Columbia? Every tenth house is a grow house. One day every year they have a marijuana holiday in the Capital steps.

So much for the right wing pov that those who smoke pot, support and are unwittingly involved in those cartels who murder and that the money goes to terrorists!

Now, to get our politicians and laws up to speed.

For those who believe mj is no longer prosecuted, realize that due to the war on drugs, the usa now incarcerates a larger percentage of it's citizens than commie china .

>>>
Of the 450,000 increase in drug arrests during the period 1990-2002, 82% of the
growth was for marijuana, and 79% was for marijuana possession alone;
Marijuana arrests now constitute nearly half (45%) of the 1.5 million drug arrests
annually;
Few marijuana arrests are for serious offending: of the 734,000 marijuana arrests in
2000, only 41,000 (6%) resulted in a felony conviction;
Marijuana arrests increased by 113% between 1990 and 2002, while overall arrests
decreased by 3%;

read the rest here


www.sentencingproject.org


But wait.

Incarcerating pot smokers is big business what with interdiction, prosecution and incarceration (sometimes in privatized prisons).

All those people will lose their jobs, eh?


fk em

What's the number of medicinal plants a person can grow?

Is it 7 or 9--and they can't be seen by the neighbors?

No county in Cali can go below the minimum of 6 mature plants or 12 plants in veg per person with a Dr. rec. "No see no smell" is typically enforced as it should be. Besides, godamned fucking rippers are an industry all to themselves so you've got to keep a low profile growing outside or you're just asking to get nicked. I know a few people camping in their yard over the next few weeks until the harvest. My dogs don't get to sleep in the house from September to mid November. Rip my girls and you'll meet the business end of a Rhodesian ridgeback.

I notice a lot of out-of-state tags around this time of year. I suspect every car from east of the Mississippi near the Green Triangle is a broker/mule.

Billions of dollars will change hands over the next few weeks.

Got Dank?

Buy American, eh?

LOL

a pound of pot might earn a farmer $25. The wholesale price for the same pound in Phoenix is $550

Suckers.

$550 pounds are good kindling for starting camp fires, not much else.

Dispensaries will give 2000-2800 a pound, and sell it for $12/15 a gram. They only want the danky-dank. A broker from out east will pay a little more.

I wouldn't grow fucking tomatoes for $550 a pound. This shit is hard werk ;)
indoe

outdoe

"pound in Phoenix is $550"

What year is this? 1973?
Or is that just a pound of oregano?

outdoe

indoe

aww fuck it!

It worked in the preview..

This is an example of how NAFTA can benefit us all.

Also, buying from your local grower is a sustainable practice that will reduce your carbon footprint.

#59-- Good point; The Go Green angle will sell in Washington right now if nothing else will. It could be a Cap and Trade talking point!

I don't like anything about weed, and I'm hardly ignorant on the subject.

When I was a kid, more than half my friends smoked it. Because I did not, they often used me as a sort of drug dog. They'd ask me to come smell a room they'd been smoking in to see if they'd aired it out enough and used enough lysol.

I thought it was a stupid habit then (and said so, but nicely), and all I've learned sense then only confirms that.

Above all, I've learned that many IDIOTS on both sides of the debate CONTINUE to express the argument in terms of a two dimensional linear scale of Good/Bad, which is knuckle dragging stupid wrong....

When comparing drugs, food, etc, NEVER think in terms of a linear good/bad scale. NOT EVER.

One can say that Oranges are "good" to consume, and that heroin is "bad" to consume, but if you do it on a flat linear scale, you are an idiot.

Think of all things we can consume as twenty dimensional blobs, or better yet, two hundred dimensional. The effect of one "overall" good substance on your lungs might actually "bad", likewise an overall bad substance probably will have some good aspects.

Also, exactly HOW a substance is used plays a part. While BotTox gets most fame from vanity cosmetic treatments, it has a varity of good medical uses, but is STILL a deadly "kill you dead" toxin if consumed with food in any significant amount.

Which all leads to the following point....

Weed overlaps A LOT with legal things, such as booze (in negative and positives ways). Both are very very very different, but they are roughly on par. Where one is bad, the other often has no ill effect. Both have well documented positive aspects. And admit it or not, both have well documented negative aspects, and BOTH can be a LARGE part of self-destructive lifestyles.

But one is legal and one is not.

As it SHOULD BE.

But I'll lose no sleep if they legalize weed and then treat it very very similar (but not exactly) like they treat booze.

No matter where the line is drawn on legal/illegal, THERE WILL BE SUBSTANCES ON THE EDGE OF THAT LINE, OR EVEN ON BOTH SIDES.

KEY POINT:
Being "no worse than" something legal that has serious downsides is NOT a good argument for making something legal.

But screwing drug cartels is very attractive to me, not to mention that potential taxes.

My main concern is that they treat a redeyed doctor going in to do surgury EXACTLY like they'd treat one who had a hangover.

Again: Weed is stupid. About as stupid as cigarettes.
But overall, its a pretty minor issue if its a minor habit.

USAF242: Weed may be stupid, but it is quantum leap from the stupidity of cigarettes which are so full of synthetic chemicals it boggles the mind. And I smoked them for 20 years. And just based upon the amount of damage an intoxicated individual is capable of on alcohol, from a purely logical perspective you have to admit that the wrong product is currently illegal.

Its should be legal. And not just for medicinal purposes.

Coke should be legal. Studies have shown for years now that casual use has no harmful side effects.

I piss on Woodrow Wilson's grave for what he set in motion with his controlled substances act.

"So, as a law abiding citizen, I should embrace breaking the law by growing and distributing pot?

*scratching head*"

Maybe Rosa Parks shoulda just moved to the back of that fucking bus, eh Sheepman?

"So, as a law abiding citizen, I should embrace breaking the law by growing and distributing pot?

*scratching head*"

Maybe Rosa Parks shoulda just moved to the back of that fucking bus, eh Sheepman?

She probably would have if she risked 25 to life.

Pragmaticism escapes you doesn't it, Kreator?

"I piss on Woodrow Wilson's grave for what he set in motion with his controlled substances act.

#63 | Posted by boojiboy "

Totally agree, bijouboy. :) It's probably unconstitutional as well.

"Maybe Rosa Parks shoulda just moved to the back of that fucking bus, eh Sheepman?"

Yes sir, massa. Whatever you say, massa.

--Sheepman

I piss on Woodrow Wilson

You're too kind.

I'd like to dig him up and grind his bones to make a nice organic source of phosphorus. Prohibition was only about the third worst thing WW "accomplished".

Cannabis prohibition was passed under the name, "marijuana". Folks had no idea wtf that was.

"killer weed from Mexico"...what?...never heard of it, here, hit this shit grampaw grew...


Cannabis/"Indian Hemp" was the most widely used and second most prescribed medicine in America for more than 100 years.

If Thomas Jefferson, or George Washington, or Benjamin Franklin (all well-documented cannabis growers) were here today, they'd be living somewhere between San Fran and Vansterdam, growin' dank, and laughing at how unbelievably ignorant most people wish to remain on the subject. Hell, it's been legal in Cali since 1998! There are literally thousands of ops registered with local law enforcement.

Remain "hardly ignorant", fine by me. Cannabis growers cash in on billions of dollars every year. It is bigger than wheat and soybean farming COMBINED. Keep spiting your lazy cliches about "stoners" and "hippies". We're getting rich!

/hits the vap/
/points toward USAF and laughs/

I have a book at home that I bought in HS called, "A Connoisseur's Guide to Marijuana" that tells how you can graft a hops plant to the roots of a pot plant. Apparently the buds on the hops are like pot when they are smoked. Of course the plant is unrecognizable as pot.


Don't know if it's true since I've never tried it, but maybe you can borrow some of your son's hops and do the experiment and let us know, zat. I'm curious.

#37 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-08 08:00 PM | Reply |

Wow fuck me, I'm curious now too!.

#37 | Posted by goatman at 2009-10-08 08:00 PM | Reply |

Wow fuck me, I'm curious now too!.

#69 | Posted by KnightHawk

Well, Goatman is a Navy boy.

Wow fuck me, I'm curious now too!.

Google it. I saw it on the 'net, too. If you try it, report to us.

Well, Goatman is a Navy boy.

It's true and the sailors do like their week.

Of course according to you it was shit.

Knighthawk: Google [hops marijuana graft]

There are lots of links

They are in the same family, so it could work.

I saw a video of a guy in France who was arrested for growing and they had him work for the government in a growing warehouse (growing state herb while under arrest for growing herb--but that's another story). He was doing lots of cloning and grafting and claimed to have a hopps 'bud' -- they look a lot like a trimmed bud-- with a high thc content.....from seed!

I'm not sure how they planned on getting the thc into a brewed beer as heat tends to break it down quickly.

I think you could graft a hopps plant onto cannabis. I just don't think it would produce any resin.

I think you could graft a hopps plant onto cannabis. I just don't think it would produce any resin.

According to some of those links, the hops will produce psychoactive buds. But there are a couple of links that agree with you.

I find it intriguing. When I was in HS I wanted to try it, but I could not obtain any hops. Zat can get it from his son so he is in a good position to try it.

I wonder about the taste? I don't like real "hoppy" beer. Tastes too much like flowers. Thats the only beef I have with most of the Samual Adams brews. But I wonder if the smoke tastes the same? The buds look very similiar

So much for the right wing pov that those who smoke pot, support and are unwittingly involved in those cartels who murder and that the money goes to terrorists!

#53 | Posted by woke at 2009-10-09 08:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

Just curious, but who said that?

Sounds like you are once again speaking out of your ignorant, narrow, bigoted mind. Or just regurgitating what you read on Huff, with no thought.

Again

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