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Jim Hightower: Wall Street wizards have been down in their corporate basements working furtively to fabricate some new, get-rich-quick financial gimmick, and -- Holy Frankenstein! - they've done it. It's a scheme based on the mundane (but huge) life insurance market. Wall Street intends to tap into the $26 trillion-worth of life insurance policies that Americans hold, using a financial mechanism called "life settlements."

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I'd like to copy/paste a little tidbit AGAIN, because it truly demands to be repeated over and over:

[Reports the New York Times], "Goldman Sachs has developed a tradable index of life settlements, enabling investors to bet on whether people will live longer than expected or die sooner than planned."

WTF!!

This doesn't sound good. The selfish man in me is hoping that this will have no bearing on my existing policies.

BUY ONLY HARD ASSETS!

"Have Vinnie take care of this block of insureds today - they are living too long."

Only the rich have million dollar whole-life policies anyway.

The whole thing is a racket.

You can't even really buy gold. All you are buying is paper.

And yes, Ray is a fucking imbecile.

I'm looking forward to bailing this whole thing out in another 15 years.


You can't even really buy gold. All you are buying is paper.

From whom are you buying your gold? I've bought gold and received it....


We don't need government intruding in the free market. If it's good for wall street, it is good for main street. If the insurance company determines that every policy that's in forced pays out it face value then they are going to have to increase the premium amounts or limit the amount one can buy thus forcing joe the plumber from affording burial insurance much less protection for his or her family. When people die without insurance, governtment ends up paying the tab for the dependents.







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buy commodities. fuck high speed traders and all their evil ways. The economy has been hijacked by these motherfuckers. 2% of US Corporate profits in the fifties and 40% today. They are the reason the majority are in decline. But they don't care, they're doing fine, especially after pocketing trillions for failure.

I would never condone violence against a group of people for just reaping benefits, however if some crazy nut-job fire bombed all of these investment bankers, burning them alive while they screeched in agony writhing in the inferno, I wouldn't lose one wink of sleep...

I would hate to think that my words could serve to encourage this sort of act by some unstable individual. An unstable individual that is possibly suicidal, or terminally ill but yet wants to do some monumental good for his country before he goes out. I would just hate to think that someone like that might be inspired by my words into committing such an atrocity. Because, that would be bad...

It's just another CMO......Basically you are going to die or you are going to live. Trading/owning these are no big deal...but only for institutions..NOT individuals...

The Profit Motive at it's finest.

#12 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2009-10-01 05:06 PM
***"It's just another CMO......Basically you are going to die or you are going to live. Trading/owning these are no big deal...but only for institutions..NOT individuals..."

Except that the "individual" will pay higher premiums due to increased payouts of "end of life" benefits...

Goldman Sachs has developed a tradable index of life settlements, enabling investors to bet on whether people will live longer than expected or die sooner than planned."

#1 | Posted by Zarathustra

I t5hought that one had already been invented. It is called 'Life Insurance'

WTF over

BUY ONLY HARD ASSETS!

Guns.

And lots of ammo.

#6 | Posted by Shawn

Can't speak for whether Ray is a fucking imbecile or not, but if you are doing it right, you get real gold when you buy it, at least I do. If you are "buying paper" when you buy gold, you might wanna look into it!?!

Wall ST: "OK America You can Pay us the Easy Way or the...Bloody Way!!!"

Why Don't the CorpoRat Nazis (Wall St.+ US Govt.) be Upfront with the American Public and tell them "Hey now people just give us the bulk of your earnings/assets and we will Stop all our Phony Gimmickry thats aimed at doing just that anyways!
Yes we will Stop "Instigating" all these bogus Wars and put an end to the OutRight "Taxpayer Robbery" that we euphemistically call "The War on Terror" if you just hand in to us the bulk of your money and assets - hell we'll even cancel our other sweet con known as the "Olympics" if you just do as we say! We'll let you keep enough for basic food and shelter if you play along - you can even have an automobile (if you pay our premium price for gasoline). America you have only 2 choices either you "peacefully" gives us most of your money or we'll launch even more phony Foreign Wars and newer,slicker "Terrorism" cons and so many hundreds of thousands of innocent people will be killed and crippled.So the choice is yours America...Pay us the easy way or we promise...we'll make you Pay us....the Hard Way!!!!

Look for Sen.Mitch McConnell(scumbag-KY) to tell us how great of a deal this is, while taking millions from their lobbist.

Can't speak for whether Ray is a fucking imbecile or not, but if you are doing it right, you get real gold when you buy it, at least I do. If you are "buying paper" when you buy gold, you might wanna look into it!?!

The real trick is to sell gold that is paper. Apparently, it's not that hard. Like the ringmaster said, "There's a sucker born everyday."

Good point anticadillac. Funny how most Republican conservatives prefer that over socialism.

FTA: Often, the ill and elderly need cash for assisted living or myriad other reasons, and a small network of insurance brokers exists to offer them a sizeable pile of money in exchange for being named the beneficiary of the policy. A broker might pay $400,000 for a million-dollar policy.

Corporate shenanigans with life insurance schemes have already been in play fer a while.

COLI.

Corporate Owned Life Insurance.

AKA: Janitor Insurance.

AKA: Peasant Insutrance.

Corporate-owned life insurance (COLI) is life insurance on employees' lives that is owned by the employer corporation, with benefits payable to the corporation. COLI was originally purchased on the lives of key employees and executives by a company to hedge against the financial cost of losing key employees to unexpected death, the risk of recruiting and training replacements of necessary or highly-trained personnel, or to fund corporate obligations to redeem stock upon the death of an owner. This use is commonly known as "key man" or "key person" insurance. Although this article refers only to practice and policy in America, key person insurance is used worldwide. Once, COLI was used for masses of non-key employees in order to get tax benefits, a practice known as "janitor insurance" or "dead peasant insurance".

Congress and the IRS set some guidelines and limits on this practice. Today, COLI is most common for senior executives of a firm, but it's use for general employees is still practiced. Recouping the cost of losing an employee versus actually profiting from their death at a level higher than their earning potential in particular raises questions. Estimating the value of an employee to a company is difficult. Recent questions have been raised in Michael Moore's new film, "Capitalism: A Love Story.

en.wikipedia.org

This latest scam just takes the game to whole new level.

Be Well.

Hightower is a know-nothing fuck. He should stick to flowers.


Hightower: I was a florist.
Mahoney: A florist?
Hightower: Yeah, you know, flowers and shit.

When corporations come knocking on your door with enticing offers backed up by saturation advertising you should always ask yourself "They obviously want to make money doing this so will it be at my expense and will it be a good deal for me?" The answer is almost always that it will be and won't be in that order.

Recent examples coming through the mail and/or TV/radio. 24-month electricity contracts with a $50 Visa card as a "gift", instant checks you can write to yourself that have to be paid off later at high interest, adjustable rate mortgages, interest only mortgages, reverse mortgages, no interest payments(not charges)until this time next year.

Let the seller be scum should always be countered by let the buyer beware. But isn't.

I'm looking forward to bailing this whole thing out in another 15 years.

#7 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2009-10-01 04:00 PM

I just wonder if the usual cheerleaders around here will still be able to wave those pom-poms for it, or if they'll be too old and have to settle for a spirited flag on their wheel chairs.

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