The thing is, you have no idea if these killers had even heard these people talk in the first place. And if they had heard them it is a big stretch to blame someone as an accomplice to murder simply because of something they have said.

#125 | POSTED BY EVERLONG AT 2009-09-28 10:44 AM

Does shock jock hate speech lead to violence?
August 12, 2008 By JENNA KERN-RUGILE Jenna Kern-Rugile is a frequent contributor to Newsday.

On July 27 a man walked into the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville and opened fire, killing two people and seriously wounding seven others.

As someone who has chosen Unitarian Universalism as her faith, I was shaken by the news. Unitarian Universalism congregations, like ours on Long Island, define themselves as a "liberal religious community" - not liberal in the political sense, but because we believe in open-minded discourse and welcome people of all persuasions.

How could such a community become the target of hate?

Police in Knoxville were quoted as saying that the man, later identified as Jim D. Adkisson, 58, targeted the church "because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that ... the Democrats had tied his country's hands in the war on terror and had ruined every institution in America with the aid of media outlets."

Someone who goes as far as shooting up a church is obviously mentally unbalanced. But where might Adkisson have come up with such ideas?

Might the shooter have heard talk-show host Rush Limbaugh say that "liberalism is the greatest threat this country faces" and "the Islamofascists are actually campaigning for the election of Democrats" and that riots at the Democratic Convention would be "the best damn thing that can happen to this country."

Might the shooter have heard talk-show host Sean Hannity say in 2006, "There are things in life worth fighting and dying for, and one of them is making sure Nancy Pelosi doesn't become the speaker."

Worth dying for? Adkisson did tell police he never expected to leave the church alive. Books found in his home included Hannity's "Let Freedom Ring," as well as "Liberalism Is a Mental Health Disorder" by Michael Savage, and "The O'Reilly Factor" by Bill O'Reilly - both outspoken right-wing talk show hosts.

You LOST the last election.

So quit complaining.

Quit attacking the person who INHERITED all these problems from the last administration.

If Obama fails to fix those problems, we all lose genius....

get a clue and start rooting for America and it's president, as we did after 911, despite the fact that he was APPOINTED by his daddy's cronys, not elected AND allowed the USA to be attacked on his watch....

WTF is wrong with people like yourself who want America to FAIL??

Give the man a chance to help fix it, will ya?

EDDIE.....this stuff isn't difficult to find....try googling "stimulus package small business"

Stimulus: What's in it for small biz?
Emergency bridge loans and reduced fees for SBA-backed loans are some of the stimulus bill's steps to help small businesses survive the recession.

By Stacy Cowley
Last Updated: February 26, 2009: 4:29 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The number of small business loans banks issue has cratered since the recession took root last year. Rebuilding that number is the focus of the small business provisions in the economic recovery bill that President Obama signed into law on Tuesday.

The bill authorizes the Small Business Administration to temporarily eliminate or reduce fees for participation in its flagship loan-guarantee programs, which insure banks against default by small business borrowers. The stimulus bill also increases to 90% the percentage of qualifying loans that the SBA can guarantee.

For companies in need of quick relief, the bill offers a "small business stabilization financing," which gives them money to pay off existing loans. Under the program, the SBA can issue or back loans of up to $35,000; businesses can then use the money to make up to six months of payments on previous loans. Interest on stabilization loans will be fully subsidized, and the loans won't have any payments due for the first year. Borrowers must repay them within five years. Details of how and when the program will be implemented will be left to the SBA, which is currently waiting for Obama's nominee to head the agency, Karen Gordon Mills, to be confirm.

The SBA has a limited window of time and cash to fund these emergency measures. Congress allocated $630 million to fund loan subsidies and modifications, and authorized them to continue through September 2010. If the cash starts to run out, borrowers will have priority over lenders - and small banks will have priority over larger ones - for receiving fee discounts and waivers.

link forthcoming

Other stimulus measures aimed at small businesses include:

Unfreezing the loan market: Banks say one major reason they've cut down on SBA lending is their inability to resell those loans to investors. Since October, that secondary market has been essentially dead. The recovery bill allows the SBA to guarantee up to $3 billion in debt in those loan bundles, a move officials hope will make the bundles more attractive to investors and encourage banks to expand their SBA lending. The SBA will charge fees for its guarantees to keep the program cost-free to taxpayers.

Loss accounting: Companies with operating losses can currently use those losses to reduce their tax bills for two years prior to the loss and 20 subsequent years after the loss.

Equipment expensing: The government wants you to buy new equipment. Last year's stimulus bill expanded "section 179" expensing, a provision that lets businesses deduct as an expense the costs of some property purchases such as vehicles, machinery and computers.

Hiring incentives: If you hire an unemployed military vet or a high-school dropout, you could get a $2,400 per worker credit on your taxes. The existing Work Opportunity Tax Credit lets businesses claim a tax credit for 40% of the first $6,000 in wages paid to a worker who falls into a qualifying "target group" of traditionally disadvantaged workers.
Capital gains: Individuals who invest in small businesses over the next few years will get a nice break on their capital-gains taxes.

Microloans: One of the SBA's lesser-known loan programs focuses on microloans of up to $35,000.

in part, read the rest

www.sba.gov

Even after being confronted with his own bs, EDDIE keeps spewing the same tired, debunked talking points.....Given the actual govt site that details what is available, EDDIE continues to spew the line.....

What can you do for me, me, me.....

LOL

Hello? Anyone home?

you stupid fool.
you stupid jackass!

#170 | POSTED BY EDDIE AT 2009-09-28 11:15 PM

great arguments there EDDIE....

Homeschooled, were ya??

Uh, pretty damned funny....here we have a repug, neocon supporter, the people who say they want NOTHING from their govt, yet, when given a stimulus package, with various incentives to help small businesses, it's not good enough for them.....

Want me to read them and explain them to you EDDIE??

#151
#152

LOL

I have posted and reposted information showing what is available for small businesses....

Perhaps the problem for you gentlemen is that you are in a business like Joe the plumber was in business??

Considering that goatboy spends his every waking hour here on DR, I assume he is a paid political prostitute and doesn't need stimulus money....

LMFAO

The U.S. Small Business Administration welcomes you to this new resource center, which connects America's entrepreneurs with tax management tools and strategies to maximize savings from the 2008 Economic Stimulus Package.

This web page contains three resources.
A fact sheet,
Highlights of the tax benefits from the 2008 Economic Stimulus Package.
A depreciation calculator
Provides an estimate of the first year depreciation available under the provisions of the Stimulus Package.
On-line seminar
Summarizes the tax benefits from the 2008 Economic Stimulus Package. The seminar concludes with the depreciation calculator.

House Panel Says Stimulus Package Benefits Entrepreneurs
The House Small Business Committee is lauding provisions in the just-passed economic stimulus package. Its chairwoman, Rep. Nydia Velazquez (D-N.Y.), called it "a victory for struggling entrepreneurs."

The legislation (part a and part b - both pdfs) would, according to the committee:

* Reduce to zero fees on SBA-backed loans.

* Raise the percentage of a loan that the Small Business Administration may guarantee from 85 percent to 90 percent.

* Establish a new "Small Business Stabilization Financing Program" enabling the SBA to make no-interest loans to firms that are struggling to make payments on existing debt.

* Unfreeze the secondary market by allowing "broker-dealers" of SBA-backed loans to take out additional loans from SBA to purchase additional loans off banks' books. This will provide banks with liquidity and better ability to lend to small businesses.

* Allow SBA to guarantee existing debts in loan pools that are currently unguaranteed.

* Allow small businesses to refinance existing debts under the SBA's 504 program that offers growing businesses with long-term, fixed-rate financing for major fixed assets, such as land and buildings;

* Streamline the Small Business Investment Co. program to provide companies with equity capital to grow and create jobs.

* Require the Government Accountability Office to report to Congress on the implementation of the small business lending provisions in the stimulus.

* Provide $15 million to the SBA's surety bond program, including larger bonding authority, to help small firms obtain construction related projects.

* Provide $30 million for the SBA's microloan program, which provides loans and technical assistance for low income entrepreneurs and laid-off workers who are starting their own business.

BBB Explains Stimulus Package Benefits for Small-Business Owners

Financing and Tax Breaks Available

With President Obama signing into law the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act on February 17, many small-business owners are eagerly anticipating the benefits of the $787 billion economic stimulus plan. Better Business Bureau of Eastern North Carolina (www.bbb.org) is offering a summary of several small-business benefits.

"The stimulus package is addressing the troubled economy from many angles," says Beverly Baskin, president and CEO of the Better Business Bureau of Eastern North Carolina. "In addition to assisting large businesses, there are benefits for the small-business owner as well."
Following are examples of how the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act will benefit small businesses nationwide:

Small-Business Financing
The U.S. Small Business Administration will receive $730 million from the stimulus packagemore than doubling their operating budget from 2008to help assist businesses with financing.

According to a press release from the SBA, funds will be divided among many programs including:

$375 million for temporary fee reductions or eliminations on SBA loans, and for increased SBA guaranteed shares, up to 90 percent for some loans

$255 million for a new loan program to help small businesses meet existing debt payments

$30 million to expand SBA's Microloan program, enough to finance up to $50 million in new lending and $24 million in technical assistance grants to microlenders

For complete details on how the U.S. Small Business Administration will use the new funding from the stimulus package and how small businesses can benefit, go to www.sba.gov.

Small-Business Tax Breaks

Qualified Property Expense Increased. The ceiling on the Section 179 tax breakallowing companies to expense qualified assets in the first year of servicehas been increased from $133,000 to $250,000.

Bonus Depreciation Extended. Originally instituted in 2008, businesses will again be able to take an additional bonus depreciation expense of up to 50 percent of the cost of newly acquired fixed assets.

Loss Carry Back Expanded. Only available to companies with sales less than $15 million, a business which incurs operating losses in tax years ending after December 31, 2007, can offset such losses against income earned in previous years and obtain a refund on previously paid taxes. Losses can now be carried back for five years instead of two.

Vehicle Depreciation Expense Increased. The depreciation expense for passenger vehicles in their first year of servicelimited only to those placed into service in 2009was increased from $2,960 to $10,960. The depreciation expense for light trucks and vans increased from $3,160 to $11,160.

Industry and State-Specific Benefits
The stimulus package will provide state and local governments with billions of dollars to fund assistance programs and infrastructure projects, such as road construction or mass transit development. More details on how state-specific funding will be dispersed and which projects will benefit will be announced soon.

Green businesses will also see a benefit, including $20 billion set aside for companies that produce solar panels and wind turbines, $6 billion in loan guarantees for renewable energy projects, and a 30 percent tax break for investments in wind and solar energy.

Additional information on the stimulus package can be found at www.recovery.gov.

The Benefits of the Economic Stimulus Package for Small Business
Guaranteed Loans,Tax Benefits and Job Creation are Available for Small Business
By Rosemary Peavler, About.com
On February 18, 2009, President Obama signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, better known as the Economic Stimulus Package of 2009. This $787 billion bill is the largest single piece of legislation in U.S. history and is designed to ignite the declining American economy by stimulating individual and business spending and investment.

There are provisions in this bill that are designed to help small businesses.

Deductions for Machinery and Equipment

Small businesses can sometimes expense or write off certain qualified plant and equipment purchases during a calendar year. This is called a Section 179 deduction. Last year, that deduction was limited to $128,000 and could not be more than the income of the small business. The new economic stimulus bill increases that deduction to $250,000 tax years beginning in 2008.

It's critical to know what equipment you can take a Section 179 deduction for. It cannot be taken for land, buildings, or improvements. It can be taken for a variety of small machinery and equipment such as computer equipment and peripherals, office equipment, signs, and vehicles to name only a few. One exception is the sports utility vehicle for which you can only deduct a maximum of $25,000.

Special Depreciation Deduction

Small businesses can also take a special depreciation deduction for tax year 2008. If you buy property that you can't expense under the Section 179 deduction during 2008, you may be able to depreciate it 50% of it during the 2008 tax year. You can use the remaining 50% of the value of that property to calculate your regular depreciation tax deduction based on the appropriate depreciation table. Check the IRS website to find that depreciation information.

Another special depreciation allowance is for passenger cars, vans, and trucks for which depreciation limits are increased by $8,000.

Miscellaneous Tax Deductions

Investors in small businesses that are publicly-held who hold their stock for more than five years will enjoy a capital gains tax cut. Small businesses will also enjoy a delay in paying the 3% withholding tax on goods and services sold to governments.

Job Creation and Tax Credits

Small businesses that create jobs for unemployed veterans who have been out of work for more than six months and unemployed students who have been out of school for more than six months will get tax credits.

Small Business Administration Benefits

First, the SBA has a program called the 7(a) loan program which allows loans of $2 million dollars to small businesses backed by the federal government. The Obama administration is going to temporarily guarantee 90% of those loans, instead of the current 75%-85%, in order to encourage banks to lend.

The SBA also has a program called the 504 program which guarantees $4 million worth of economic development loans to small businesses. Beginning March 23, the fees on new 504 loan applications are temporarily eliminated for both borrowers and lenders to encourage borrowing and lending.

The Obama administration believes that these moves will stimulate lending on the part of banks because the SBA will guarantee more of the loans and fees will be lower. They further believe that this will encourage small businesses to borrow as it will be cheaper for them.

If you need a loan, check with the Small Business Administration now that the Obama administration is encouraging them to guarantee loans and making it easier for you to borrow. You might have a more positive experience with them than you have in the past!

Summary of Benefits to Small Businesses

Perhaps the biggest benefit to small businesses will be the return of customers to their businesses as job creation puts wages into the pockets of consumers and consumers are once again able to afford to buy goods and services.

Maybe you are confusing the stimulus package, Obama's bill, with the TARP that bush43 got passed, which mccain was willing to suspend his campaign to make sure it got action???

Then, you might have a point, eh?

LOL

Business Intelligence
TARP Funds Fail to Reach Small Businesses
Thursday, January 15 2009

During the darkest days of the credit crisis last October, Congress granted President Bush's urgent request to address growing problems in the credit and financial markets by passing the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (EESA).

Since then, the government has spent more than $1.6 trillion dollars bailing out big businesses, such as troubled insurer American International Group and mortgage purchasers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. But almost none of the money has trickled down to small community banks or, by extension, small businesses.

"The federal government missed a real opportunity to help small firms when it chose to limit this provision to big businesses," says House Small Business Committee Chairwoman Nydia Velazquez, D-N.Y. "Small business credit markets are as frozen today as they were when the crisis began."

Velazquez and the House committee have held a series of hearings in recent weeks to examine how small businesses have fared so far under the government's economic relief efforts. They found that community banks and small businesses have not only been bypassed by relief efforts, but also that lending through the Small Business Administration (SBA) is down sharply.

"Small business lending is in a freefall that will require very strong action to stop," said Margot Dorfman, chief executive of the U.S. Women's Chamber of Commerce, who testified at one of the hearings. "Loan volume has dropped dramatically, thanks in large part to the collapse of the secondary market for small business loans."

A centerpiece of EESA is the $700 billion Troubled Assets Relief Program, also known as TARP. The government is supposed to use the money to purchase failing bank assets. The goal is to free up reserves so banks can start lending money again. To date, nearly all of the TARP's initial $250 billion appropriation has been distributed. So where has the money gone?

More than half quickly went to just nine of the nation's largest banks through the government's Capital Purchase Program. Even large, non-bank companies like credit card firm American Express, auto lender GMAC, and Wall Street's two surviving investment banks, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs, have been allowed by the government to convert to bank-holding companies and step to the front of the line for TARP funds.

link forthcoming

Meanwhile, most of the nation's 8,000 community banks, which provide loans to 48 percent of all small businesses, have yet to receive any TARP money. Of those, 3,000 community banks have been declared ineligible for the program simply because they are Subchapter S corporations or mutual institutions, Merski says.

In times past, community banks, a traditional conduit for SBA lending programs, could serve as a counterbalance to tight credit for small firms. But just the opposite is happening. In the first quarter of the government's 2009 fiscal year, which ended Dec. 31, the number of flagship SBA 7(a) loans dropped by 57 percent compared with the first quarter of FY2008 and by 62 percent compared with the first quarter of FY2007.

Lending through the SBA's Community Express program, which targets low- and middle-income areas and firms owned by minorities, women, and veterans, has been hit even harder. Loans are down 76 percent from a year ago.

Naturally, small business loan demand is down in the slowing economy, but misguided Bush administration policy decisions have hobbled the SBA at a time when it's needed the most. Over the years, the administration has hiked SBA loan fees, slashed the agency's budget by half, eliminated the SBA's successful "Low-Doc" program, and increased red tape, says Merski.

As a result, hundreds of community banks have dropped out of the SBA programs. Today, just 10 large banks make nearly 60 percent of all SBA loans, while lenders that have made at least one SBA 7(a) loan have dropped by almost half, from 5,288 banks in 2001 to about 2,700 banks today.

"This gross imbalance in SBA lending was a recipe for disaster," says Merski. "Many of the largest financial players have tripped up on toxic investments and subprime lending and have been forced to pull in their lending across the board, including small business and SBA lending."

During the hearings, small business advocates warned the committee that urgent action is needed to avert even more dire consequences for the economy. "As we watch the falling business lending statistics and the climbing unemployment numbers, I can assure you that the next fatality will be marked by a declining number of small businesses and increased numbers of business and personal bankruptcies," said Dorfman.

If the nation is ever to break this recessionary spiral, it must tap the power of small businesses to create jobs. There certainly is no lack of proposals, but the Bush administration so far has only focused on big corporations. That has to change in the incoming Obama administration.

So, these geniuses pretend they want to know what has and hasn't been done to help small businesses....

But when given the info, they complain it's too hard, too long to read......(maybe that's the problem, eh?) ....and they put their fingers in their ears, cover their eyes and say......no, no, no, no...

GOP=party of NO

Too damned funny.....

You can take a horse to water, but not make him drink...

and

There are none so blind as those who WILL not see.

national review

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Isn't that the rag that supported ALL the FAILED neocon policies and politicians who drove our economy off a cliff??

Yeah...hoo boy, you guys are hilarious.....

I post info directly from the US Govt, the Better Business Bureau, various other business related sites....

and you come back with the National Review......

Sorry, those fks controlled our country for the last 8 years, and FAILED completely, taking a budget surplus and giving it to the richest 1% (about 141,000 people) and borrowed billions from saudi arabia, japan, taiwan, and commie china to invade/occupy a country that didn't attack the usa, .......they have no new ideas and are totally and completely corporate controlled.....

and that's your source??

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I guess STUPID is as STUPID does, eh?

It amazes me to see it.

After 8 years of neocon abject FAILURE, taking the USA deep into debt, running our economy off a cliff.....

the right wing nut dupes cheer for those elected to FIX those FAILURES to FAIL......

and continue to cheer for more of the same policies that created the failures.....

With America standing at the brink, you'd think those whose politics failed miserably would simply admit it and get behind anyone trying to fix it.....

Much as we all rallied behind bush, even after his incompetence allowed 911 to occur on his watch......

(until he decided to invade/occupy a country that didn't attack us based on lies)

but the partisan right wing nut dupes cannot see any value in supporting a president of the usa who is a dem......

They smeared and denigrated Carter....tho he inherited 8 failed years of nixon/ford

They smeared and hounded Clinton, tho he inherited a national debt QUADTRUPLED by 12 years of reagan/bush41

and now they are doing the same to Obama, after 8 years of failure from bush/hallichainy.......

GOP=simply and pathetically PARTY OVER COUNTRY

As we noted, Brian Riedl tried to argue short-term crowding-out, which the CBO quite clearly says will not be the case. Even the most ardent Keynesian would concede that long-term fiscal stimulus leads to long-term crowding-out. Only those pseudo-economists who were apologists for the Bush43 fiscal stimulus would try to deny this.

Yeah, Brian Riedl is an economic genius who cheered on the bush tax cuts as our debt was raised out of sight and our economy went off a cliff....

Sorry, I believe I'll listen to a nobel prize winning economist who PREDICTED that the neocon economic policies would create the financial crisis a couple of years before it occurred.,....like Paul Krugman, rather than a neocon flunkie like Reidl, who continues to cheer on policies that already FAILED....

LMFAO

the link to the first paragraph of my last post.....