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Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) sent a letter to the president last week requesting that the White House release information regarding the "roles and responsibilities" of the "czars." The Senate Judiciary Committee member also requested that the president's legal advisers prepare a "judgment" on the "czars'" constitutionality.

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Here's the text of the letter:

The President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear Mr. President:

From the beginning of your administration, you have made an admirable commitment to transparency and open government. You showed the strength of your commitment by sending a memorandum to the heads of executive departments and agencies within a week of your inauguration, stating: "My administration will take appropriate action, consistent with law and policy, to disclose information rapidly in forms that the public can readily find and use."

As you know, there has been much discussion about your decisions to create and assign apparently significant policy-making responsibilities to White House and other executive positions; many of the persons filling these positions have come to be referred to in the media and even within your administration as policy "czars." I heard firsthand about this issue on several occasions from my constituents in recent town hall meetings in Wisconsin.

The Constitution gives the Senate the duty to oversee the appointment of Executive officers through the Appointments Clause in Article II, section 2. The Appointments Clause states that the President "shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise proved for, and which shall be established by law." This clause is an important part of the constitutional scheme of separation of powers, empowering the Senate to weigh in on the appropriateness of significant appointments and assisting in its oversight of the Executive Branch.

As a member of the Senate with the duty to oversee executive appointments and as the Chairman of the Senate Constitution Subcommittee, I respectfully urge you to disclose as much information as you can about these policy advisors and "czars." Specifically, I ask that you identify these individuals' roles and responsibilities, and provide the judgment(s) of your legal advisors as to whether and how these positions are consistent with the Appointments Clause. I hope that this information will help address some of the concerns that have been raised about new positions in the White House and elsewhere in the Executive Branch, and will inform any hearing that the Subcommittee holds on this topic.

Thank you for considering my views on this important matter. I very much appreciate your commitment to transparency and open government and look forward to your prompt response.

Sincerely,

Russell D. Feingold
United States Senator

Makes sense.

Maybe Reagan left a written justification in his files.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-09-24 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag: 9 minutes, first deflection

Deflection?

Hoo-haw, Joe Shmoe, you need to unwad your pantaloons. I said Feingold's letter "makes sense" and then wondered whether Reagan (who was also a "czar" namer) might've left a written justification in his files.

When it comes to this "czar" stuff, frankly, Joe, you seem to be upholding your usual standard of gross ignorance.

If you don't think the equivalent of saying "Reagan did it too" isn't a deflection, then "gross ignorance" would be an understatement in your case. More like willful, blatant retardation.

The White guys before him had them.

How could anyone look at it any other way.

Now that a black guy has them, it's a problem.

If it isn't his race, what is it?

-your usual standard of gross ignorance

Gross? More like a parsec of ignorance in his case.


George W. Bush (White) 2001 to 2009 31 Czars 46 appointees
(No problem)

Barack Obama (Black) 2009 32 Czars 35 appointees
(Unconstitutional)

George W. Bush (White) 2001 to 2009 31 Czars 46 appointees
(No problem) [Republican]


Barack Obama (Black) 2009 32 Czars 35 appointees
(Unconstitutional) [Democrat]

#9 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-09-24 04:34 PM

Couldn't be simpler.

Where did you get that info, Manypantspisser? Wikipedia?

#9

SSSHHHH! Many, you are going to upset Joe's plan to become the Blog Czar!

Yeah, Feingold and Byrd are only concerned about czars now because Obama is a democrat. You guys are hilarious.

Joe, my post was a response to:

If it isn't his race, what is it?

#7 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-09-24 04:30 PM

Are you trying to dispute the facts Joe?

Man, you never fucking get it.

SSSHHHH! Many, you are going to upset Joe's plan to become the Blog Czar!


Posted by Corky at 2009-09-24 04:38 PM | Reply

What would His duties be?? Would He be required to live with RCADE and become His foot massager and all around butler and housemaid?? Just curious.

Larry

If it isn't his race, what is it?

Live at least offered an alternative to race.

What is it Joe?

Reagan appointed the first Czar that I remember in America. Bush, Clinton, and Dubya all also appointed Czars. Pointing that out is not a deflection, but a recognition of history. What we now must wonder is if Precedent has been set by this action going on for almost 40 years by both parties and without protest from either of them.


Joe's off trying to figure out how many Czars there are in a gross.

Joe's off trying to figure out how many Czars there are in a gross.


Posted by Corky at 2009-09-24 04:57 PM | Reply

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#6 | Posted by JOE

I'm sorry facts and precedent don't go down well with you, Joe. Have you ever considered another line of work?

George W. Bush... (No problem) [Republican]

Barack Obama...(Unconstitutional) [Democrat]

Couldn't be simpler. -- #10 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

Feingold is a Dem.

-Have you ever considered another line of work?


I understand he's trying out for the position of geisha on a oil rig in the gulf. It was by special request.

"If it isn't his race, what is it?"

Maybe he has given more power to the czars. How would anyone know when prominent members of his own party needs to ask for more information about them?

#21 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-09-24 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Deflections are now mere citations to "precedent?" That would have been nice to know during the Bush years when every lefty on this site whined about "Clinton deflections."

Obama keeps picking mini-ayers and they will be forced out one by one.

And it's hilarious that the Dems are questioning Obama and the folks here still manage an excuse.

Feingold Questions Constitutionality of Obama's "Czars"

I am sure the Left will now accuse Feingold of being an ultra-rightwing lunatic racist.

I guess we should thank Obama. He took the idea of czars so far that finally people are starting to question the constitutionality of any czars. If he had not abused this czar thing, people would not be questioning it.

I don't believe in czars. There should be 0 czars in this and in future administrations.

Manypaths please provide a list of the names of George Bush's Czars as you are touting a list of his totals. From where did you get your list? Link please.

Funny, I don't recall anyone raising the "czar" so-called "issue" when Bush was doing the appointing. Or Clinton. Or Bush 1.0. Or Reagan.

I'll accept Feingold's request for clarification as legit. The hysteria of the Joe's and other Riiighties? Not so much.

Deflections are now mere citations to "precedent?" That would have been nice to know during the Bush years when every lefty on this site whined about "Clinton deflections."
#25 | Posted by JOE


"Clinton got a blowjob" is a deflection, Joe. (Unless the topic is "Presidential blowjobs.") "Reagan also had czars" is relevant to the matter at hand. C'mon, tell the guys in the boiler room to get you up to speed, kiddo.

please provide a list of the names of George Bush's Czars as you are touting a list of his totals. From where did you get your list? Link please.
#29 | Posted by buzkiller

Jeezus, you really are lazy/uninformed/clueless, aren't you?

There's an extensively footnoted Wikipedia piece (I'll leave it to you to check out all the references) that deals with this at en.wikipedia.org with a list of names stretching fromn FDR to Obama. There Bush II is given 46 czars in 31 positions. (And before you ask -- and you know you will, Buzzzzzzed -- how 46 people can occupy 31 positions I'll drop a hint: not all at the same time.)

By another count, Bush had 36 czar positions filled by 46 people during his eight years as president.
www.washingtonpost.com

How to explain the discrepancy? Because nobody has an official job title in any administration with the word "czar" in it. It's an invention of the -- waiit for it, Buzzzzzzed, wait for it -- Mainstream Media.

Pavlovian on the part of you Riiiiighties, dontcha think? MSM calls someone a "czar," you clowns hear the bell, and you're out of the chute searching for the elusive weiner.

Here's laughin' atcha.

"Clinton got a blowjob" is a deflection, Joe. (Unless the topic is "Presidential blowjobs.") "Reagan also had czars" is relevant to the matter at hand."

I wasn't only referring to Clinton getting blowjobs. Clinton was blamed for the economy and for 9/11 as well, and it was always a "deflection" even though the topic was the economy or 9/11.

"There's an extensively footnoted Wikipedia piece"

And yet, none of the numbers everyone is pulling from that piece are footnoted. The author simply put them there with no citations.

Perhaps Cock Starvis is okay with unprovable wikipedia evidence, but most people with brains are not.

Actually, Joe, if you took a look at the Wikipedia article you'd find it's extensively footnoted. You can even follow up on those footnotes if you want, check them out for yourself.

I will, however, grant you the point that there's a strong possiblity you did look at the article but don't know how to recognize indications of research or do any yourself.

In your case, my guess is we're dealing with a bundle of disabilities that includes ignorance, poor reading comprehension skills, and unfamiliarity with research methods. Quite a trifecta you're laboring under there, Joe.

"Actually, Joe, if you took a look at the Wikipedia article you'd find it's extensively footnoted"

Again - none of those footnotes are linked up from the information you're citing. You are aware that wikipedia authors put links to their footnotes after the corresponding text they are citing?

Like I said, Joe, you're deficient in research skills. Throw in your general state of ignorance, combine poor reading comprehension and you're stuck in your non-starter default mode.

Feingold is a Dem.

#22 | Posted by Phoenix at 2009-09-24 05:05 PM

*sigh*

I'm aware of that.

I posted that in response to ManyPath's question on why the "right" is suddenly up in arms over czars; I attribute it more to partisanship than to race.

I'll accept Feingold's request for clarification as legit.

#30 | Posted by doc_sarvis at 2009-09-25 06:15 AM

=O A lefty acknowledging that the "czar" concern might be legit?

O

M

G

Which doesn't make sense, if you think about it. Cock Starvis should be ripping Feingold for being duped by the media hype over "czars."

Why would I "rip" Feingold? I've already said his letter makes sense. He wants clarification, fine. I do, however, understand that your status as a benighted partisan hack renders you incapable of understanding that.

(Frankly, I'm a little surprised -- not much, just a tad -- that someone who's claimed to be an attorney can't quite make it past the black-white binary paradigm but, fortunately, that's your problem and not mine, Joe.)

What I did rip, Joe, was you for being lazy, deficient in research skills, weak in reading comprehension, and burdened by a general state of ignorance. And that, obviously, still stands.

Again - if the concern over czars is nothing more than being duped by media hype, then why is Feingold's concern a legitimate one?

JUST THIS MORNING..or maybe late last night

dems are now poised to vote down ANY LOOK into obama czars...

I guess the seiu or soros was getting nervous

Who gives a shit?


The Constitution was shredded long ago and the Genesis was the New Deal.

It's a great document that barely even exists any more.

damn I wish you were exagerating


BUT NEVER FORGET

bush had them too
nana nana boo boo

'the left'

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