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The Occidental oil company has discovered the equivalent of 150 million to 250 million barrels of oil and natural gas in Kern County, Calif., the state's biggest find in 35 years. "It's very rare to have a find of this size" this late in California's oil production history, said engineer Joe Hahn. "In our view, Oxy's declared discovery may only scratch the surface of the ultimate potential of its acreage in the San Joaquin basin," said oil analyst Doug Leggate. "We suggest the resource potential could reasonably exceed 1 billion barrels."

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The California Ultra-Flakes will find some midget cockroach mite that will be endangered if they drill and a regional Obama(9th circus court of appeals)court will back them up.

That is the way environmentalists think, they care more about other life forms than they do about humans. If it were up to them, we couldn't even use toilet paper because it kills too many trees.

Greenies will shut it down and again the state not be able to tax the revenue, furthering their slide into bankruptcy.

#2 | Posted by member2586 at 2009-09-24 11:27 PM | Reply | Flag: FUNNY BUT TRUE

The world consumes 85 million barrels a day. California alone about 3. So, if just used in California, were talking 50 to 80 days worth of consumption.

This is the largest discovery in 35 years in the state.

It's nice. The fact that it's a news story tells you how screwed we are.

#5 - We need a "damn right" flag.

who will get to drill for it? china, cuba,canada,mexico or obamas pal hugo.

LOL! They will never drill that! They would rather save the trees and let the place burn down in a giant fire than drill for oil! LMAO!

"The biggest find in the state in 35 years, somewhere in Kern County, could herald new exploration in California and the U.S., experts say. But some worry it could lead to a false sense of security."

Translation - we found new oil, and the people who don't like oil wish that we hadn't. Then they got in their cars and drove home.

That is the way environmentalists think, they care more about other life forms than they do about humans.

#2 | Posted by member2586

Right on!!! I say we should kill all animals on earth except for those critters we crunch and munch. Who the hell needs all those pesky animals anyways? They just get in the way of our entertainment and ski slopes and manicured lawns and multi-room condos and drill rigs and sports arenas. And then they dare to come into our backyards and eat Fluffy and Muffy! Don't need no steekeen life diversity on this planet. Who cares how they fit in. They don't fit into OUR life. Fuck 'em all with a sharp stick (TM DethSpud).

The world consumes 85 million barrels a day. California alone about 3. So, if just used in California, were talking 50 to 80 days worth of consumption.

#5 | Posted by lawnchair at 2009-09-25 08:47 AM | Reply | Flag

Some Leftist jackass will always make this argument, and it's always wrong.

Nobody ever said this would be the mother lode of oil, forever. Besides, it would take a hell of a lot longer than 80 days to drain it out.

But this, along with hundreds of other large sources (including Alaska and the now-thawing Arctic) can all contribute to global supply for decades. -- And that's the fact Lefties hate.

The world consumes 85 million barrels a day. California alone about 3

so what % of our energy needs do we get from all alternative energy sources?enough to last maybe 6 hours.

The problem, Vern, is that world oil discoveries have been less than world oil production every single year for the last 35 years. And, it's not even close at this point. Even adding in much larger finds like Tupi in Brazil (5-8 billion) haven't gotten us anywhere near the amount we consume (31 billion a year).

This is not a left or right statement. We're going to burn every drop of oil we can get our hands on. I have no doubt about that, and really don't give a fark whether it happens in 20 years or 50. It's simply a fact. And, just so you don't think I'm all lefty, I think the best solution out of that massive oncoming energy hole is a whole lot of nuclear.

I think the best solution out of that massive oncoming energy hole is a whole lot of nuclear.

#13 | Posted by lawnchair at 2009-09-25 10:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well said, and quite honest.

But the fact remains that until we get to a whole lot of nuclear, a whole lot of solar, a whole lot of wind and a whole lot of chicken shit conversion, we will need a whole lot of oil.

To poo-poo a major find ignores this reality

I assume the lefties are full of crap on pretty much everthing they say on Oil.

But I'm happy to take them at their word.

Thats why I love nuke power.

And yes, I actively support the idea of leaving a medium city sized patch of ground in some desert contaminated for the next 10,000+ years because we used it as a dump.

(part of my work is being ready to deal with hazmat unpleasentness of all kinds, so its not so much of mystery to me....)

Knuckle dragging, drooling moronic SELFISH lefties continue to delude themselves that we have a choice between "good" and "bush is satan, end of the world, really bad stuff".

The truth is "which choice is BEST?" I've been involved in Emergency Management for well over a decade. Be it the SL-1 accident, or 3-mile island, or Chernoble, you can draw a lot of conclusions about nuke power.

Barring pure idiocy in the design process (such as Chernoble), even in a completely uncontrolled melt down that kills ALL operators before they even have a chance to react, the contamination wont leave the building.

So that leaves the waste issue as the only real down side. I'll HAPPILY accept a medium city sized glowing patch in some desert to keep all of North America powered for the next few centuries.

Some Leftist jackass will always make this argument, and it's always wrong.

Nobody ever said this would be the mother lode of oil, forever. Besides, it would take a hell of a lot longer than 80 days to drain it out.

But this, along with hundreds of other large sources (including Alaska and the now-thawing Arctic) can all contribute to global supply for decades. -- And that's the fact Lefties hate.

#11 | Posted by vernon at 2009-09-25 09:37 AM | Reply | Flag:This oil will only cost $30 a barrel.
###who will get to drill for it? china, cuba,canada,mexico or obamas pal hugo.

#7 | Posted by semtex111
"Over the last decade, Occidental has been actively acquiring leases and drilling rights in California as most other big oil companies have been selling out"
Given the biggies love for oil work in Libya ever since Dubya declared Ghaddaffi America's best buddy, and China being busy in Iraq and Iran, either Fidel or Hugo will be saving AMerica's SUV drivers.

But, Vern, this *isn't* a major find. Sorry. The world was discovering this much oil *every single day* in the 1940s-1950s. Even with this find, we will be discovering less than 1/5th as much in 2009 as in 1949. Oh, and there's 3 times as many people consuming 10 times as much oil as in 1949.

If we could just stop using oil and coal and use space ships to collect solar energy and beam the energy directly to our houses then every thing would be swell!

Meantime, the natural gas industry goes almost unnoticed because the natural gas industry is composed of a many small companies, spends far less on lobbying ($310,000 last year versus $40,000,000 spent by the oil and cola companies according to one news report I heard). Yet there have been announcements that a new method of extracting previously unattainable gas in shale structures has been developed (side drill and shatter), boosting US natural gas reserve estimates by as much 30 to 40 percent.

It really is amazing how all the so-called 'conservatives' rail on about how we should exploit a resource that can't possibly exist!!!

Oil. coal and natural gas was supposedly created from the remains of plant and animals that lived millions of years ago.

This is patently false, since every good Rtard KNOWS the earth is only 6000 or so years old.

So these pants pissers are just a bunch of hypocriticals Lying assholes. What the fuck!!!!!

No drilling, no refinery's, no nuke power, no windmills in my New England water.

And the right is doing nothing to gain us energy independence.


Sincerely,

-The bi-partisan colective on the left in this country

Stop Drilling in the USA! Exploit the rest of the World oil while it is still cheap and we have money!

There is no oil shortage. It is all a scam to drain pocket books of common folk and make some people even more wealthy.

So?

"But, Vern, this *isn't* a major find. Sorry."

It is a major find by current standards

"The world was discovering this much oil *every single day* in the 1940s-1950s."

And many of those finds continue to produce to this day. They did not run out in 50 day.

"Even with this find, we will be discovering less than 1/5th as much in 2009 as in 1949."

So we should be thankful that so many previous finds continue to produce, and there's so much more that so far is off limits

"Oh, and there's 3 times as many people consuming 10 times as much oil as in 1949."

How has the population changed since 1949?

You are tiresome

Denying that oil is a finite resource is foolish at this point.

Keep drilling, but keep going after alternatives too. I would suggest that people try to use less energy. You can extend our limited resources greatly by using less. Even CONSERVatives can be taught to conserve. Drive less, live closer to work, build communities in ways that allow mixed uses and easier access by foot or bike (which means you have to get up off your ass now and then), make more fuel-efficient cars, houses, machinery, HVAC, and so forth. Here's a new lightbulb that can last 25,000 hours and operate on 10 watts but produces the equivalent of 60: gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com

Invite all the greenies to the well opening ceremony and then turn the gusher on full blast. Ooops!!!!

The California environmentalists will go ballistic over this find if they start setting up oil rigs.

Kern County is in a more desolate area -- more desert-like -- but it does have the Kern River running through it which is a popular recreation spot.

Still, we need oil for a lot more than just an energy source. No two ways about it.

So I guess it's going to stay "drill, baby, drill."

"drill, baby, drill."

#27 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-09-25 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag: Horny

"drill, baby, drill."

Forget that. It would be a lot better for the Cali economy for Californians to "grow, baby, grow."

Just add that to the list that shows that the US sits atop the largest oil repository in the world. But thanks to liberals we buy most of our oil take out style.

Don't be a shale shill, Evershort. Squeezing drops of oil out of tons of rock ain't the answer to our energy problems.

If electric cars get 200-400 MPG why isn't everything gone electric or at least hybrid? What initiatives have been working? NONE?! Amazing.. and quite profitable to the money-depleted oil industry.[wipes tear]

Solar charging stations are cheap and can even be placed in the average garage. When I see car ads they are proud of 18-35 MPG. Why are car manufacturers STILL making wasteful shitmobiles?

Also, oil and natural gas are abiotic resources - ie, made from geothermal activities, not from decayed dino carcass millions of years back. I suppose you rtards should be praising that massive asteroid for sequestering your dino-squeezin's. MORONS.

And for all of your disingenuous "lefty" bashing you appear entirely bereft of intelligence and the ability to understand the dynamics of a profit model that can never run out of resources to steal.

Why do you think Hugo Chavez was even able to offer oil to the Katrina victims? Why did BushCo turn it down? Such hubris..

Doesn't anyone find Occidental's purchases a tad suspicious? As Zat puts it - You are all idiots and deserve your extinction.

Also, oil and natural gas are abiotic resources - ie, made from geothermal activities, not from decayed dino carcass millions of years back.

Very few, if any, petrogeologists by the abiotic theory. I myself has seen evidence of the biotic nature of oil. When we get 'in the zone', the cuttings that the geologists inspect will have microscopic fossils.

Is this just a coincidence that ancient life decided to die exactly where this abiotic appeared? That seems too incredible to me.

I've had the pleasure of eating dinner on the rig with these geologists quite often and they have given much indisputable evidence that petroleum is not of abiotic origins.

I don't know who you are talking to, robot, but I would question their credentials.

The world's largest oil reserve could be in California and it won't be available. The libtard far radical left Democrats run that state.

I am sure a family of engandered dust mites in the area will shut the whole thing down.

Invite all the greenies to the well opening ceremony and then turn the gusher on full blast. Ooops!!!!

Such a hateful person. I guess that's what happens when you haven't got laid for 30 years, if ever.

Vernon, don't panic, the oil is already being pumped in the area and nobody is complaining but the oil companies who aren't making enough profit because of decreased demand and lower prices. You seem to have your panties in a wad quite a bit too. perhaps you and fwthom can relieve each other's pent up frustrations. Living a life of hate is a waste.


Does this mean that hick Kern County cities like Bakersfield, Tehachapi and Taft will be the new "it" places to buy land?

The article makes it sound like the exact location is secret. I am sure tht the people in the area know. When the Kern County folk saw the helicopters flying and the hysteria over them not being UFO's was over, we can get some straight answers.

Don't worry, the usual cast of enviro idiots:

Sierra Club
Center for Biological Diversity
Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility
Natural Resources Defense Council

...will comb over every square inch of that place looking for an obscure critter that's on the ESL. And if they can't find one, they'll sue to get one put on.

This oil will *NEVER* be drilled. Remember folks, this is California. I live here, I know.

Knuckle dragging, drooling moronic SELFISH rtards continue to delude themselves


See there? Fixed It For Ya......

No Charge!

Also, oil and natural gas are abiotic resources - ie, made from geothermal activities, not from decayed dino carcass millions of years back.

Take a dead animal like a rat or a bird and put it in a jar with a lid with holes in it and let it decay naturally (somewhere the smell won't gag you to death) and come back a few months later to see what's left. All you will find is bones and oil.

"Also, oil and natural gas are abiotic resources - ie, made from geothermal activities, not from decayed dino carcass millions of years back."

Very few, if any, petrogeologists by the abiotic theory. I myself has seen evidence of the biotic nature of oil. When we get 'in the zone', the cuttings that the geologists inspect will have microscopic fossils.
Is this just a coincidence that ancient life decided to die exactly where this abiotic appeared? That seems too incredible to me.
I've had the pleasure of eating dinner on the rig with these geologists quite often and they have given much indisputable evidence that petroleum is not of abiotic origins.
I don't know who you are talking to, robot, but I would question their credentials.
#33 | Posted by goatman at 2009-09-25 04:31 PM

Searching for Tiny Fossils
News story originally written on January 7, 2009

Not all fossils are the size of dinosaurs. Some are very small, so small that you need a powerful microscope to find them.

Scientist Peter Siver has been looking for very small fossils for 20 years. He studies creatures called diatoms and has found them all over North America. He has discovered 60 species. Some of the diatoms that he studies are fossils found in rocks and mud and others are living today in lakes and the ocean. Usually, they are so small that you can't see them without a microscope. Each diatom is made of just a single cell.

Fossil diatoms may be small, but what they can tell us about the climate can be huge. Peter Siver found fossil diatoms in 48 million years old rocks in the cold Arctic tundra of Canada. He discovered they were the same type of diatom that today live in the tropics. So, these tiny fossils tell us that that the chilly Arctic used to be quite warm 48 million years ago.

So the "Death Rattle" of California will now be strangled out a little longer and become a whole lot more toxic! Wave That Dirty Fucking Flag over the Corpses!!!

Remember Paris Hiltons add when she decided to run for the president?

We need to keep drilling until our alternative energy systems are fully operational.

I found it insightful.

A pretty, rich blonde with a head on her shoulders.

Vernon, don't panic, .... You seem to have your panties in a wad quite a bit too.


#35 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-09-25 05:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

You seem to be projecting.


"Living a life of hate is a waste."

You are a living testament to the rest of us

You are a living testament to the rest of us...

I have a sense of humor. There is a difference.

"Oh, and there's 3 times as many people consuming 10 times as much oil as in 1949."
How has the population changed since 1949?
You are tiresome
#24 | POSTED BY VERNON AT 2009-09-25 12:08 PM | REPLY | FLAG:
SYNAPSE MALFUNCTION AND PROUD OF IT. RUDE & IGNORANT at the same time.

I have a sense of humor.

#44 | Posted by RingMaster at 2009-09-26 04:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

Anyone who must insist they have a sense of humor obviously doesn't.

Otherwise it would already be obvious

Let's convert the fringes on both sides of the political spectrum to fuel. (With apologies to Holocaust survivors in advance...this is a joke, not at their expense.)

Very few, if any, petrogeologists (buy) the abiotic theory. I myself has seen evidence of the biotic nature of oil.

#33 | Posted by goatman

more than ya might think consider abiotic influences on "SOME" oil reserves . . . the Ruskies have for decades

they have no reason to convince anyone that biotic oils are only a portion of all reserves. - - the dilemma . .
IF abiotic theory is ever accepted, the value of oil in the ground is greatly diminished.



Take a dead animal like a rat or a bird and put it in a jar with a lid with holes in it and let it decay naturally . . . and come back a few months later to see what's left.
All you will find is bones and oil.

#39 | Posted by RingMaster

I'll try that - -

meanwhile, you get a jar (heavy duty, w/no holes in the lid);
fill it with carbon, sulfur, hydrogen, & nitrogen etc-
heat it to 4500 C, while pressurized to 100,000 KSI

you will also have oil



btw, how did the dead dino's get buried 6+ miles deep??
one can see geologic formations 250+ million yrs old less than 1 mile deep in the grand canyon??

btw II, according to the original peak oil theory, adjusted for current consumption, we are out'a oil NOW

btw III, oil occurs naturally & as such cannot in any way be harmful to the earth

btw IV, drill baby drill = jobs baby jobs

Anyone who must insist they have a sense of humor obviously doesn't.

Anybody who has never posted anything positive obviously doesn't either.

meanwhile, you get a jar (heavy duty, w/no holes in the lid);
fill it with carbon, sulfur, hydrogen, & nitrogen etc-
heat it to 4500 C, while pressurized to 100,000 KSI


you will also have oil

How does that account for the oil, assuming that you really can produce organic molecules under those conditions? First you would need 100,000 KSI pressure. So, your insinuating the oils is from Jupitor? I lost you here.

At any rate, plant material as well as animals break down into basic molecules when they decay. Over millions of years the oil seeped down through cracks in the surface rock. That's how geologists find oil. It is found beneath sedimentary rock in areas that were once lush tropics. If your theory was true, Hawaii would have plenty of oil in freshly ejected basalt, but there is not a trace.


btw III, oil occurs naturally & as such cannot in any way be harmful to the earth

It's not the oil that is harmful, it's converting 4 billion years worth of oil accumulation into carbon, sulphur and heat in a decade or two that is the problem. The Earth was at a balance that allowed life to evolve as conditions (like climate and atmospheric gas concentrations) changed over thousands or millions of years. Sudden change is what's causing the third mass extinction in our lifetime. Now, what part don't you get?


#48 | Posted by markh at 2009-09-26 10:11 AM | Reply | Flag: F in petroleum geology

Anyone who must insist they have a sense of humor obviously doesn't.

Otherwise it would already be obvious

#46 | Posted by vernon at 2009-09-26 08:23 AM | Reply | Flag Grumpy Old Man with No Sense of Humor

How does that account for the oil, assuming that you really can produce organic molecules under those conditions? . . the oils is from Jupiter? I lost you here.

At any rate, plant material as well as animals break down into basic molecules when they decay . . . the oil seeped down through cracks in the surface rock. That's how geologists find oil. It is found beneath sedimentary rock in areas that were once lush tropics. If your theory was true, Hawaii would have plenty of oil in freshly ejected basalt, but there is not a trace.

#49 | Posted by ringmaster

a) very high pressures & temps exist in the earth's mantle -

b) the magma is full of hydrocarbons -

c) you mention Jupiter, it's moon Titan is CHOCK FULL of hydrocarbons - no dino's or palm trees there

d) re Hawaii; lava can reach temps of 2400F, it should be obvious what would'a happened to any oil - -
however one might wonder about the make-up of the "poison gas cloud" that accompanies major volcanic eruptions and kills 1000's . . hmmm . . . hydrocarbons?


from the article (my bold);

"Occidental executives have kept secret both the location of the discovery and the methods used to find the new oil and natural gas field.

"Certainly this kind of success will send other people back to California to rethink the geology and theories"

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