EUSTACE MULLINS: Oh yes. It says that it's a violation to question the validity of the national debt! In other words, you say, Tom Valentine says, "Well, they create this money out of nothing!" Well you've just committed a violation of the 14th amendment by saying that!
VALENTINE: By the way, they had a meeting of law enforcement police chiefs and so on down in "Albasqueeky", New Mexico here, a few months ago. And I've just recently heard about it. And they've listed the "terrorists". And people who oppose the federal reserve, and people who oppose the income tax, and people who oppose NAFTA, are now on the list of terrorists in this country.
MULLINS: Yeah, they call it "Constitutional terrorists".
VALENTINE: Well! Aren't we something.
Well health, to me, is a big one. If you control the people's health, they're not gonna think so clearly.
MULLINS: Well, and that's why John D. Rockefeller himself, the same man whose son-in-law created the federal reserve system at Jekyll Island, he also, in 1907, John D. Rockefeller decided to go into the health business. And you see, his father, the founder of the Rockefeller dynasty, was William Rockefeller -- who was a side- show barker who called himself "the world's greatest cancer specialist" and sold bottles of oil for $5 apiece in the 1860s. That's how far this goes back. They were into cancer over 100 years ago. And so his son, John, the original John D. Rockefeller, went into the health business as early as 1907.
VALENTINE: And in the health business, of course, they found themselves a "quack", and used that "quack" to establish the American Medical Association [AMA]!
MULLINS: They certainly did. Because a "quack", by definition, is an unapproved doctor, a doctor who has no training. And any medication which is not approved by these same "quacks" -- they call it "quack medicine"!
VALENTINE: That's right. And who was that first AMA founder, and the AMA journal?
MULLINS: That was Abraham Flexner(sp?) and "Doc" William Simmons(sp?) of Lincoln, Nebraska. "Doc" Simmons was a man who had 2 fake medical degrees. And he is the person who created the American Medical Association as we know it today. He took it over in 1898.
VALENTINE: This Dr. Simmons -- they made a famous movie based on him, that he tried to drive his wife nuts.
MULLINS: Uh yes he did. Because she objected to his having a mistress there in Chicago. And so he decided he would give her drugs and drive her insane and put her in an asylum. And that would end this criticism.
Well it didn't work. She took him to court and got a divorce. And do you know that that became a very famous movie, "Gaslight", with Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman!
VALENTINE: Yep. I was just sayin', "Gaslight", [with] Charles Boyer [and] Ingrid Bergman, is based upon a true story of the original head of the AMA. And you mentioned the name of the guy who set him up -- Abraham Flexner.
MULLINS: Yeah. Flexner was John D. Rockefeller's "stool pigeon" in setting up the takeover of the entire medical school industry by Carnegie Foundation, which was a Rockefeller Foundation subsidiary at that time.
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