Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs

As clearly stated in the subtitle, the Drudge Retort was conceived as a site for left-wingers to discuss ideas. And yet many, if not most of the loudest and most ubiquitous contributors are extreme right-wingers. Why do the likes of Rex, Tadowe, Wisgod, JakSeMao, et. al. spend so much time on a site like this? Aren't there plenty of other sites posters of that ilk can go to spew their angry bile? Do they really think they are "educating" anyone with their first grade rendition of popular Rush Limbaugh talking points? Do they really believe that any left wingers do anything other than laugh at them and consider them fools? I just don't understand the dynamic.

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Maybe it's a troll thing. Maybe they live for the brief moment when they actually say something so stupid or so offensive that they actually manage to offend a left-winger. If that is the case, - what a pathetic existence that is.

Personaly I like to listen to liberal ideas and offer subtle alternatives without being loud or acting like a jackass...


AND IT helps me with my spelling...

Fuck you ModerFAKE.

Just to smack you around, Mildred8.


Just to smack you around, Mildred8.

#5 | Posted by cookfish at 2009-09-18 01:44 PM

OHHH MY and I was thinking about changing my handle to MR NICE, but around here that would be just asking FOR IT...


Hasta Laredo and be well...


Tadley has been kicked off of all the Rightwing blogs... not even they will listen to his drooling rants.

Rex failed at his own blog, PWZ, the Pilonidal Wart Zone.

And Cockfisher is majorly masochistic.... enjoys the hell out of the beatings he takes around here.

Wissy isn't in the same class, more of a moderate... and Mao, one of my personal favorites, hasn't anything to do with the one hand but type, while the other is elbow-deep in cow ass most days.

"Why Do So Many Rightwingers Flock To A Leftwing Blog?"

They crave attention while waiting in line for the vice principal.

This site has been proven on two threads to have more conservatives than liberals.


This site has been proven on two threads to have more conservatives than liberals.

#10 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Otherwise we would never have known about the smoke staks on the moon...

Otherwise we would never have known about the smoke staks on the moon...

Another moronic slant that some how makes the poster think his argument is validated.


AKA is back in the house, just with his inside voice.

I like to be informed, listen to their point of view and after listening to liberals it just reinforces how screwed up they really are. It is exactly why I left the Democrat party ten years ago. I have never regretted it. The far left have taken over the party as they continue to screw this nation up.


Moder8 whines like a dog will, "Why do the likes of Rex, Tadowe, Wisgod, JakSeMao, et. al. spend so much time on a site like this?"

For my part, it is to become the target for you neurotically obsessed political zealots and to demonstrate that you can't discuss the issues when contradicted, because you are nothing more than squawking parrots repeating party propaganda, and can only make your correspondents into the subject to revile and dehumanize, like this effort.

Or, this one you started to show just how personally obsessed you are with me! What a fool you make of yourself in this way by spamming Rogers' sites with this stupidity!

... you and Corking do *not* help Democrats this way ...

"It is exactly why I left the Democrat party ten years ago. I have never regretted it. The far left have taken over the party as they continue to screw this nation up."

You do realize that for eight of those ten years the Republicans were runnng the show, don't you?

KBM,

LOL! How's that small government and little spending working out for your party...LOL!

Keep that conviction of political belief up, it gives you intellectual value!

"The far left have taken over the party as they continue to screw this nation up."

Is somebody supposed to respond to this insanity?

Does anyone ever understand what Todowe is trying to say? All the double talking gobbligoop is a tough wade.

#15 | Posted by tadowe | Flag: Fucked In The Head Seven Ways From Sunday

"Why Do So Many Rightwingers Flock To A Leftwing Blog?"


ACORN ACORN ACORN ACORN ACORN ...


I get paid 10 cents a word by ACORN to help spread the truth around here...

It's simple, I like picking on the limpwristed retards that come here. I also like to remind them of how fucking stupid they are.

The better question would be: How do leftwing sheep flock here for their talking points while accusing anyone right of center of spewing talking points?
You fruitcakes come here to have your minority opinions bolstered so that you feel like less of a societal outcast. It's your modern day version of the "Drama Club" or "Home Ec" when you were in High School.

101, you can be the bomb sometimes.

"It is exactly why I left the Democrat party ten years ago."

Hmmm...ten years ago....Clinton was President...no wars....balanced budget....working class incomes rising.....yeah, I see why you would leave the party.

What would the fun be of a blog of people with only the same point of view?

Obama inherited this recession from Bush

Sure did...

yep I agree too...

Did you guys see Olberman tonight? He said the same thing...

that would be boring.

AKA is back in the house, just with his inside voice.

I heard that ...

"You fruitcakes come here to have your minority opinions bolstered"

Minority??? I don't think so. The past 2 elections sort of back me up on that.

Do they really think they are "educating" anyone with their first grade rendition of popular Rush Limbaugh talking points?


Posted by moder8 at 01:33 PM

You've got to love how blind this retard is...
You fruits came here hoping for an echo chamber while you read spoonfed stories that bolster your fringe opinions.
Hell, you're so fucking stupid you actually call yourself "moder8" and admit you come to a site for "left wingers".

This shit just writes itself.

"You fruitcakes come here to have your minority opinions bolstered so that you feel like less of a societal outcast."

I've been here on and off for six years waiting for my minority opinions to be bolstered so that I can feel like less of a societal outcast.

I'm still waiting.

"You're probably wondering why I'm here
And so am I.

So am I."

-FZ

Oh, this is gonna be a good thread!

Let me know when the bloodshed is over so I can come out from under my desk.

Minority??? I don't think so. The past 2 elections sort of back me up on that.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2009-09-18 02:12 PM | Reply |


Uh huh. Tell me, aren't you the fucking hysterical loon crying about Blue Dogs? You know, the kind of Dems that are being elected now a days?

Tell me this as well...Where are the results from those 2 elections? Are we in Iraq? Afghanistan? Are they winding down or picking up? Has spending decreased? Wire taps? Patriot Act? Hahahahahahaha, you've been had, stupid.

To point out retarded posts from left wingers like:

3. Although the government is still spending way too much money, at least now the money is not being wasted on pointless elective bloody wars, and instead on improving the lives of citizens.

Posted by moder8 at 05:38 PM

and follow up with questions like:
Tell me, since we apparently aren't spending money on the Iraq War anymore, when did it end?

FZ

Fuzzy Zeller?

Let me know when the bloodshed is over so I can come out from under my desk.

#30 | Posted by Lisa

LISA just EXACTLY what are you doing UNDER the desk : ) ...

Tell me this as well...Where are the results from those 2 elections? Are we in Iraq? Afghanistan? Are they winding down or picking up? Has spending decreased? Wire taps? Patriot Act? Hahahahahahaha, you've been had, stupid.

#31 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-09-18 02:15 PM

Don't forget Obama's back tracking on the Bagram detainees. You know, something these champions of human rights used to care about, before Obama was president.


Chair only comes here for the sex... he's ambidextrous.

"Let me know when the bloodshed is over so I can come out from under my desk.

#30 | Posted by Lisa"


While you're down there....

Hey!! Behave yourself Monte!!

LISA just EXACTLY what are you doing UNDER the desk : ) ...

Praying to the head honcho

Monte just needs someone to rub his bunions.

Chair only comes here for the sex... he's ambidextrous.


#36 | Posted by Corky at 2009-09-18 02:17 PM | Reply

There's that, too. Good point.

I'm looking for the paperclips I dropped, Atax.

Sounds good, huh??

#39

And if I was, why would that bother you that you feel you need to mock me about it, Money??

You create your own "jihad"!!


At least it is sex with someone you love.

Don't forget Obama's back tracking on the Bagram detainees. You know, something these champions of human rights used to care about, before Obama was president.

#35 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-09-18 02:17 PM | Rep


Have any soldiers died since Obama was elected? I used to see threads here daily.
Oh, and how many "Number 2's" has Obama's military killed?
One more...Haven't any innocents been killed by errant bombs or stray bullets? I remember reading things here daily about how our mere presence, let alone the killing of militants, was creating more enemies than we were killing.

What's changed lefties? Where are those threads? Where is that care for our troops? Where is your care for the dead militants? Where are your inquiries about Osama?
Where?

101Chair: If you are so concerned about the issues you raise in #45 why not go to a rightwing blog to discuss them? Or, if you feel the need, post a thread on this site.
The real question is, what are you rightwingers even doing spending so much time on the DR? Are all of you that desperate to troll?

101 asks, "Where?"

Hiding under the desk with Lisa? Wasn't she so concerned about our dead soldier heros ... then ...?


I'm looking for the paperclips I dropped, Atax.


Sounds good, huh??

#42 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-09-18 02:22 PM

AHHHHH just ruined my day dream...

Sorry for the short notice, but I have four extra tickets for the Robbie Knievel (son of Evil Knievel) Event at the Texas State Fair Grounds this weekend in Dallas, if anybody wants them.

Robbie is going to try to jump over 1,000 Obama supporters with a Caterpillar D-9 bulldozer.

"Monte just needs someone to rub his bunions.

#40 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE"


Nah, you do a great job, Livey. I'm not looking to replace you anytime soon. Lisa has softer hands that would be wasted on bunions.

This site has been proven on two threads to have more conservatives than liberals.

-BBob

At least one of which was based on your personal opinion.

Not exactly the most reputable source of information.

Why would you want to be on a site where everyone is saying the same thing? I guess its the same reason any voter would joing a political party against his or her self interest: It makes things easier if you don't have to think.

I get caught up with flaming other posters quite often but even I have certain people who I just scroll past every time. If you think someone is just spewing nonsensical talking points, don't read what they write.

Wouldn't that be easier than whining that there are people here you don't like?

Why? Like watching "Cops", or peeking in an insane asylum window.

"Why Do So Many Rightwingers Flock To A Leftwing Blog?"

"Robbie is going to try to jump over 1,000 Obama supporters with a Caterpillar D-9 bulldozer."

#49 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2009-09-18 02:35 PM


THE HUMOR TA DA...

I really don't consider this a "left wing blog," but rather a political blog hosted by a left leaning person. The truth is that any of us can post any story we want here and there are just as many conservative or moderate stories as there are left wing ones. This is, from what I have seen, the lone site that allows total discussion of any subject by anyone.

"but rather a political blog hosted by a left leaning person"

You mean like KARL MARX...

Just joking Roger ...

I also think, for me anyway, it is not the stories posted here, but the people who post to them that keeps me coming back. Some I love to troll, some I love joking around with, and others I love to debate with and I think each group knows their place with me =D

I think each group knows their place with me =D

#58 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-09-18 02:48 PM | Reply


Yes, we're the pitchers.

We're here on a mission from God. We're here to convert you.

Honestly, I thought this was the Drudge Report until I had my prescription changed at the eye doctor.

LOL

Geez Kan, you left yourself wide open for that!

Oh wait...I should have used a better selection of words for that last post.

Well, the follow up question then becomes, why are rightwing blogs so completely unable to allow open ended conversations with contributors of all political viewpoints in the way the DR does? Why are rightwing blogs so scared of allowing opposition viewpoints to be aired? On some level, doesn't this reflect an underlying fascist desire for censorship so endemic to rightwing thinking in general?
Cheney's horror at allowing the names of WH visitors be made public. Rightwing requirements that loyalty oaths be signed in order to attend political meetings. FOX's refusal to allow leftwing viewpoints be honestly debated on their airwaves. And so forth. The GOP and the rightwing in general is so clearly wedded to propagandistic misleading venues that it is really scary.

"Robbie is going to try to jump over 1,000 Obama supporters with a Caterpillar D-9 bulldozer."

That was pretty funny!

Yes, you should have Lisa. Now you are WIDE OPEN =P

I don't know why I like coming to this place, I just do. The conversations here are generally better than the one's I hear people having around the office, no one can hear the yelling that goes on in here, there are better jokes, etc. I find most of the people I work with pretty boring and amazingly unaware of current events. I don't care really that much if someone agrees or disagrees with me but it is nice that they are interested and have a general idea what is going on.

Kanrei says, "I really don't consider this a "left wing blog," but rather a political blog hosted by a left leaning person."

I agree with Rogers own assessment: "Red Meat for Yellow Dogs"

... or whatever mealymouthed euphemism the politically correct make of that ...

Since you've made this all about me, I've got just a few things I want to get off my chest:
www.youtube.com
~TAD

Narcissism.

Any recommendations on a good conservative site with software similar to this one?

the camaraderie.

good conservative site

oxymoron

oxymoron

#73 | Posted by sitdown

Doesn't seem to work. Can you paste a link?

I'm sure there are other good sites, but what makes this unique are the characters we have here. It is like TV- many shows are about the same thing, but it is the characters that raise some shows above the others.

a sitcom. i would like for anjelica huston to play my part in the movie.

We could get the two judges from the Muppet show to play me and 101 =D

#76 | Posted by nanc at 2009-09-18 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag: Morticia Addams

A sitcom about this place???

Oh geesh..leave me out of it!!!

lol

Well, off the record, I've been known to lean a little to the left which upsets my wife because I make a mess on the bathroom floor.

LOL

Mystery

You men are NOT very specific anyway. It doesn't matter where you aim, you're all happy just to hit something.

The wall....the shower curtain...the rugs...the vanity...it's all the same to you!!

They have already made one. It is called "The Guild" and is about people playing WOW, but the concept of people being smartass from behind a computer is there. Funny show I highly recommend.

The wall....the shower curtain...the rugs...the vanity...the wife...the dog...the kids...it's all the same to you!!

- would like for anjelica huston to play my part in the movie.

Margaret Hamilton, more like.

www.americanrhetoric.com

The same reason the Left calls Hannity.

It's the idea that you can say what you want, even if the host hangs up on you, which he doesn't do as often as people think.

I've tried to watch or listen to other programs, but there are few that have both sides of the aisle calling in. Hannity always has left callers.

Heck, he even has left politicians on the air. That's not normal in today's news media outlets. He even dared to disagree with Bush and the Republican Congress.

LMBO

That's so true Kan!!

Hannity always has left callers.

He used to have Alan Colmes as a co-host and constantly vocalized left and right.

I listen to Hannity sometimes; best comedy on radio and I am not saying that to troll, Hannity honestly cracks me up.

"Well, the follow up question then becomes, why are rightwing blogs so completely unable to allow open ended conversations with contributors of all political viewpoints in the way the DR does? Why are rightwing blogs so scared of allowing opposition viewpoints to be aired? On some level, doesn't this reflect an underlying fascist desire for censorship so endemic to rightwing thinking in general?"


Excellent questions. Do most other sites allow you to post immediately without a moderator approving posts in advance? A few other places I tried did that, and it made conversations impossible. The comments sections were unreadable anyway, so I don't go there anymore.

Yeah, I got kicked out of "Free Republic" after just one post. They didn't appreciate my sense of humor.

They didn't appreciate my sense of humor.
#91 | Posted by nullifidian

LOL... please tell me you were not surprised.

I'm going to kick myself for admitting this, but I tried to post a comment to Dr. Phil's website once after watching some crazy episode with my wife. My post never made it up, and I was blocked from posting when I tried to find it a day later.

:(

moder8 - think of it as free intervention. and remember - the first step in any 12 step program is to admit you have a problem. we're here for you.

I listen to Air America sometimes, but they continue to talk about Bush and Chenney, if they aren't calling everyone a "Teabagger," with their collective tongue in their left cheek, and it gets as dull as a Pakistani knife!

That's what most of the whining is about here, too - rightwingers are messing up all their good efforts to continue to convict Bush/Chenney/rightwing - and they're just sick-and-tired that rightwingers can come here to mess that up!

Smart dogs, barking at the newspaper boy riding by on his bicycle, as if to say, "This is my master's neighborhood, get-out get-out get-out ..."

Puling propagandists for partisan party prevarication' ... and world-class whiners ... even you cur-like cats on the fence ...

Tadowe don't you ever tire of the word puling???

is it my imagination or is moder8 quite prone to making this type of post? perhaps the blog bookkeeper can round up just how many whiny posts he's made like this in the past year or so?

Danni gets in a leftish/Democrat whine, "Tadowe don't you ever tire of the word puling???"

It is so apropos to the sound of baby's whining cries, that it is almost impossible to find another euphemism that is so fitting. Besides, the alliterations available in 'Ps' gets the leftist's goat so easily, don't you know?

"This is, from what I have seen, the lone site that allows total discussion of any subject by anyone."

Just don't say Mohammed was a pedophile even though it is well documented and not disputed by millions of followers of Islams. The Muslims around here flag and Rcade is afraid of them. ;)

"Just don't say Mohammed was a pedophile "

Awww, let's break out the violins. You said quite a bit more than that, Sully, to get yourself suspended.

Yeah, I got kicked out of "Free Republic" after just one post. They didn't appreciate my sense of humor.

#91 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-09-18 04:00 PM

I still remember the first time I posted on the online comments section for my local college newspaper. I thought I was being mild, but the cries of "insensitive jerk" overwhelmed the entire fucking discussion.

My guess is if you've weathered numerous sesssions on the DR you've probably been rendered unfit for regular blogger company ever again. You won't appreciate them and they definitely won't appreciate you.

"Awww, let's break out the violins. You said quite a bit more than that, Sully, to get yourself suspended."

And if I mentioned being suspended that would be a good point. I know I had dumps to spare when I was suspended.

But the dump where all I did was call Mohammed a pedo seemed a little too PC to me given the man did marry a child.


My guess is if you've weathered numerous sesssions on the DR you've probably been rendered unfit for regular blogger company ever again. You won't appreciate them and they definitely won't appreciate you.
#102 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I hadn't thought of it that way; you have a point.

We're institutionalized retorters, unfit for "polite" company. That explainst the looks I get from people when I talk politics.

I just saw an ad for The Simpsons. Obama is going to be on there speaking to Bart about Health Care.

When I pose a question about rightwing obsession with the DR, I get the following:

Wurster calls me ModerFAKE".

Cookfish calls me "Mildred8"

Member calls me "Masturb8"

Tadowe calls me "puling" and says I whine like a dog. Nanc apparently agrees with him.

*sigh*

(And some of you wonder why I consider most rightwingers to be idiots?)

#106

Well you're OK in MY book, Mod.

Just consider the source. ;)

Although I do find Member to be civil more times than not.

jus readin.. no comment

Member calls me "Masturb8"

Coming from a poster named "member" that's actually really funny.

#108

If only a few other members would follow your lead!

BL2!!!!!!!!

"That explainst the looks I get from people when I talk politics."

I avoid that, though I have to bite my tongue to avoid calling out the inbred rightwing morons in the group. Drudge has that kind of civilizing influence...

"I avoid that, though I have to bite my tongue to avoid calling out the inbred rightwing morons in the group. Drudge has that kind of civilizing influence..."

Start agreeing with them for fun. Repeat the craziest rightwing argument you've heard here and, if they don't know you well enough to see you're putting them on, they'll take the inch you've given them and run with it. Its really an awesome experience that I highly recommend.

u spend ur vacation here hag? wait I did that when I was in St. Martins last via private plane with a Muslim on it...didn't know about mms then

SNL You Lie!

This is not any leftwing blog--this is the DR.

Creature of habit I suppose to stay. Maybe masochistic....;o)

I posted on FR and it took 1/2 an hour for the post to show. How does that carry a conversation?


Rcade may be left leaning but conservatives and moderates all get to contribute with Write a Blog.

This site allows pretty much any subject to be discussed.

DK is too vile and Huf n Puf--is all someone else's op-ed or threads to discuss. No contribution stories from the masses.


u spend ur vacation here hag? wait I did that when I was in St. Martins last via private plane with a Muslim on it...didn't know about mms then

#113 | Posted by Bani

I knew I'd be back when I said goodbye before. We leave for Turks & Caicos Sunday a.m. Right now I'm here while my wife is out and my daughter is watching yo gabba gabba.

#115

You said it, murphy.

"I posted on FR and it took 1/2 an hour for the post to show. "

Why does Rcade hate Murphy?

i would never say "puling" when "eruction" is a more appropriate term for moder8.

"eruction"?

Null--are you making a funny?

FR is free republic.

Why Do So Many Rightwingers Flock To A Leftwing Blog?


I come here to watch the native species of feces-flingng monkeys in their natural habitat. That being said, I feel that I must say something while watching the primates...

This is an easy one. Rightwingers flock to left-wing blogs because, if there is anything the Right hates more than the Left, it's other rightwingers who want to disagree with them on piddly little shit.

There is no such thing as conversation on right-wing blogs. There is no debate. There is conformity or there are cancelled accounts.

Hag advices, "Start agreeing with them for fun."

It is just so typical of leftists to refuse to discuss the issue(s), but instead mock their correspondent(s) in order to avoid any such need to actually agree with a rightwinger except as a 'joke', or find reason to show them why they might be incorrect.

Then, when you are replied to with the same mockery and 'jokes' you typically dispense as 'debate', you create threads like this one ... where you pule and whine about rightwingers infesting your 'place', and being so impolite and disrespectful of your imperious selves ...

How dare any conservative swine impose on the site dedicated to elitist political intransigence ... !!!

There once was a respectable moderate rightie. I can't for the life of me remember if it was the goat man, Eb or Vern. Like respectable moderate righties, he may have vanished from the Republican mainstream.

Today's DR Rightie seems to be represented by a Bogus Paratrooper who gets off on calling his betters limp-wristed and retarded, probably because he (she? has anyone looked into this?) is both.

But watch out also for Saint Nancy, Cidney representing the fetal rights crowd, the babbling former Bush-lover crying "socialist" from the safety of a state-owned library computer ... and a host of lessers whose names I have mercifully, for the nonce, blocked out. herm

#124
Tad is right. 100%.

"How dare any conservative swine impose on the site dedicated to elitist political intransigence ... !!!"


Stella!!!

I would love to see a non-insult day on DR where no one is allowed to insult anyone.

I'd be sitting in the corner taking bets on who would be the first to crack!

"I would love to see a non-insult day on DR where no one is allowed to insult anyone."

Listen to this teary-eyed stuff. Come back to reality, lunatic.

I'd be sitting in the corner taking bets on who would be the first to crack!

#128 | Posted by Lisa I'd vote for Doc_Sarvis or Corky. They're pretty well full of hate.

LOL

I'd vote for Doc_Sarvis or Corky. They're pretty well full of hate.
#130 | Posted by American1st

Not Celisary or Bibble? That's who my money is on. Chairborne would just take the day off.

Did someone say something?

Anyway, I love this place, even with people like ModerSUCK. Best blog on the web. "RED MEAT FOR YELLOW DOGS" is very fitting.

I don't consider myself 'right wing' exactly. Not Republican, not religious, don't like the wars, use illegal drugs... Mostly I just hate libtards.

#128 | Posted by Lisa - i spent four or five days off the 'tort due to p.c. trouble - does that count?!?

*8]

That's why you weren't here?

Oops.

I've been thinking you and BL2 were having a thing. He was gone too!

LOL

I hope the repairs weren't too costly.

#102 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis - here-here! i was abandoned by 27 of my moonbat fighter pilot friends because of you guys! seems they couldn't stomach the saccharinely close ways we have here.

ate the whole dayamed thing up, lisa! funny thing that - my pc doctor charged me for the annual fee, but didn't see fit to update our software until it was too late and our recovery disks are at the cabin and we won't be going over there until who knows when so i'm stuck on this notebook...but i DID hook up a keyboard, mouse, and BIG monitor to it!!! getting a dell clipbook in a couple of weeks. took me a week to get all the updates on this hp as we'd only used it to watch movies with for almost three years.

Well at least you're up and running!!

what's with the new google ads below the comments?


I don't consider myself 'right wing' exactly. Not Republican, not religious, don't like the wars, use illegal drugs... Mostly I just hate libtards.

#135 | Posted by wurster

Brotha!


When I pose a question about rightwing obsession with the DR, I get the following:

Wurster calls me ModerFAKE".

Cookfish calls me "Mildred8"

Member calls me "Masturb8"

Tadowe calls me "puling" and says I whine like a dog. Nanc apparently agrees with him.

*sigh*

(And some of you wonder why I consider most rightwingers to be idiots?)

#106 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-09-18 06:26 PM | Reply | Flag

Rightwingers think they get debating points for taking your screen name changing it to an insult. If they had to go through a debate without personal insults they would never post here. Their kung fu is weak.

#143 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob - but you're okay with some of the usual suspects calling say murphy and i the "c" word?

#144 | Posted by nanc at 2009-09-18 09:42 PM | Reply | Flag

Don't speak for me--you have been wrong every time. Name calling is always wrong--I have done it myself--I admit that---but I am very rarely the first to do it. It lowersd me when I do it, and I have tries to stay away from posters who make me want to call them names---hence, my list of posters to ignore. It is the first to call names who loses. Everyone should keep that in mind before you complain about the names. If murphy has been called that name day after day after day, you have a point. I haven't seen it. If it is one poster from time to time, that poster has a problem. The situation I am talking about is all poster using name cAlling day after day. I see moder8's point---I don't see yours. How about a list like moder8 posted of the posters who have used that name against Murphy day after day after day?

The point here is that some leftwingers want to call rightwingers any 'name' they can think up to call them, but don't want any rightwingers calling them any 'names'.

That's the Georgie Porgy intellectualism that dominates the leftwingers ... world class hypocrites and runaway intellectuals ...

They have lots of support from one-liner 'independents' in helping them run away ...

And, as mentioned so typical of leftist liars who must instead misdirect so that they won't have to ...


It would only be acknowledging a reality and not supporting the rightwing, but still impossible for them to do, as good leftists intent on mocking the rightwingers as they suggest is fun ...

Posted by tadowe at 2009-09-18 08:27 PM | Reply

I come here because it's fun.

Seriously.


Danni gets in a leftish/Democrat whine, "Tadowe don't you ever tire of the word puling???"


It is so apropos to the sound of baby's whining cries, that it is almost impossible to find another euphemism that is so fitting. Besides, the alliterations available in 'Ps' gets the leftist's goat so easily, don't you know?

Posted by tadowe at 2009-09-18 04:31 PM | Reply

Puling propagandists for partisan party prevarication' ... and world-class whiners ... even you cur-like cats on the fence ...

Posted by tadowe at 2009-09-18 04:05 PM | Reply

... or whatever mealymouthed euphemism the politically correct make of that ...

Posted by tadowe at 2009-09-18 03:06 PM | Reply


Moder8 whines like a dog will, "Why do the likes of Rex, Tadowe, Wisgod, JakSeMao, et. al. spend so much time on a site like this?"


For my part, it is to become the target for you neurotically obsessed political zealots and to demonstrate that you can't discuss the issues when contradicted, because you are nothing more than squawking parrots repeating party propaganda, and can only make your correspondents into the subject to revile and dehumanize, like this effort.


Or, this one you started to show just how personally obsessed you are with me! What a fool you make of yourself in this way by spamming Rogers' sites with this stupidity!


... you and Corking do *not* help Democrats this way ...

Posted by tadowe at 2009-09-18 02:05 PM | Reply

Tadowe is the worst offender of name calling with no point. If he had to have a reasoned debate, he would never win. He thinks name calling proves his point. Yet he points the name calling finger at everyone but himself.

#152 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-09-18 10:33 PM | Reply | Flag: WTF?

Trying to convince us some folks are loonier than you?
Is that it?
I'll give you Tadley, Raystradamus and Bani, but that's it.

Zatoichi joins the club---see how the name calling starts? He thinks he has made a point.

Rather than address a point, he resorts to name calling. He also thinks he is superior to anyone on the site intellectually. He really can't stand on his words and alone---he needs the crutch of name calling to make him feel worthwhile.

Hey there--what did I miss?

"what did I miss?"

Posted by MURPHY

Your period for starters;

Then pretty much everything else.

i'd be willing to wager the left calls the right more foul names than vise versa. all the names i call are terms of endearment...*;]

#158 | Posted by nanc at 2009-09-18 11:06 PM | Reply | Flag

I'd say the name calling is about equal---who starts the name calling is the main point. Let's take this thread for instance--who called who names first? Let's see.

Fuck you ModerFAKE.

#4 | Posted by wurster at 2009-09-18 01:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let's see who's next.

Just to smack you around, Mildred8.

#5 | Posted by cookfish at 2009-09-18 01:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

That didn't take long. Who's next?

Tadley has been kicked off of all the Rightwing blogs... not even they will listen to his drooling rants.

Rex failed at his own blog, PWZ, the Pilonidal Wart Zone.

And Cockfisher is majorly masochistic.... enjoys the hell out of the beatings he takes around here.

Wissy isn't in the same class, more of a moderate... and Mao, one of my personal favorites, hasn't anything to do with the one hand but type, while the other is elbow-deep in cow ass most days.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2009-09-18 01:51 PM | Reply | Flag

Corky steps up for the left.

But this is an individual problem, no matter what other people do. If YOU are the first to call names--you are the loser.

If YOU are the first to call names--you are the loser.


Like Zatoichi?? :o)

come on my little bluffalo...*:0

#161 | Posted by nanc at 2009-09-19 12:18 AM | Reply | Flag

I remember calling nanc a nasty name first a long time ago, and I still feel bad about it--so let me take this time to apologize sincerely.

I really have been trying for the last several months to bring up my level of interaction. The list does help a great deal.

When I mention two countries--it really is based on the belief we would all be better off and happier in countries that reflect our beliefs and goals.

Like Zatoichi?? :o)

#160 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-09-18 11:28 PM | Reply | Flag

In this instance, yes.

When I mention two countries--it really is based on the belief we would all be better off and happier in countries that reflect our beliefs and goals.

#162 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-09-19 12:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

Boob,

Just go to Yugoslavia. You will find about 37 micro-countries there. I'm sure one of them is a perfect fit for a pseudo-intellectual conspiracy crackpot.

America is about tolerance. Even if Americans fuss at each other, protest, scream, etc., in the end we are all still Americans.

Your parents must have been violent when you were a child. You are so spooked by a little argument. Don't cry! Daddy won't hit you.

America is about tolerance.

#164 | Posted by vernon at 2009-09-19 01:18 AM | Reply | Flag


You tell me to get out of the country and then say what a tolerant country America is.

I guess you think the name calling makes your point. Maybe you should read the 8 or 9 posts before yours.

My America is about tolerance--my America tolerates all EXCEPT those who hate tolerance. Your America is about intolerance. You can't tolerate those who want anything different from your concept. The proof of this is in your words.

Boob,

Just go to Yugoslavia. You will find about 37 micro-countries there. I'm sure one of them is a perfect fit for a pseudo-intellectual conspiracy crackpot.

Your words put your post in the light it belings--a lie.

Conservatives hate liberals---they have no tolerance for liberals--the hate is clear. See if you can use some logic, and tell me the value of liberals in America--what liberal concepts do you see as being good for America?

liberals hate conservatives also, bb. i accept your apology wholeheartedly - i've always liked you regardless of your quirkiness. this would be a very dull place without our differences, yes?


liberals hate conservatives also, bb. i accept your apology wholeheartedly - i've always liked you regardless of your quirkiness. this would be a very dull place without our differences, yes?

#166 | Posted by nanc at 2009-09-19 01:38 AM | Reply | Flag

I agree that liberals hate conservatives. If I were asked to answer the question I asked vernon in reverse, I wouldn't have an answer. I can see no value to conservatives in America---that's why I think the two country concept is the only viable solution, and that's why I think it is inevitable.

If you look at the SOTU address, it is easy to see that the two concepts are not compatible. The republicans sat with hands in their laps while the dems were giving standing O's. The same holds true when Bush was giving his SOTU. One EVERY subject, the two sides are at odds with each other. With two countries, both sides cvould promote their own agends, and the citizens of each country would have the leadership they want, and accomplish their agendas without interference from the other side at every turn.

The two countries would still be great allies and trade partners, and each country could see what the other was doing and the effects it had and adopt the better course if theirs wasn't doing so well.

The United Staes and England used to be one country---the concept of two countries took a long time to take hold back then also--but it was inevitable that the split take place. I see the same inevitability, and would prefer it be done politically instead of militarily--like the last time it was attempted. It may take a hundred years for the change to happen, but it will happen. The longer it takes, the greater the chance of bloodshed. The hate builds day by day.

Thank you for accepting my apology, I feel much better.

I like to be informed, listen to their point of view and after listening to liberals it just reinforces how screwed up they really are. It is exactly why I left the Democrat party ten years ago. I have never regretted it. The far left have taken over the party as they continue to screw this nation up.
#14 | Posted by KBM at 2009-09-18 02:05 PM

What do you think of this?

So, you are an ardent BushCo supporter and believe in the "war on terra"? The illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan by American military was necessary and stealing the oil a matter of national honor? The Patriot Acts I & II, Blue Skies Initiative, Carnivore, EPA library shut-down, auto-bailouts, enhanced interrogation, extraordinary rendition, Gitmo, abu Gharib, bank bailouts, 10-to-1 car manufacturing inequity, Dubai ports scandal, 9/11 - particularly selling the refuse to China prior to a complete investigation by the almighty "Commission", anthrax mailings, Shivo-watch, Tamiflu stock, failed Katrina aid, faked WMD "intelligence", etc, etc - all noble acts of a free nation?

Ten years filled with those "non-regretted" Republican neo-conservative fundamentalist "ideals".. and yet liberals are the screw-ups? Fascinating, but why don't you just blame those real "war criminals" Jimmy Carter, Cynthia McKinney and President Barack Obama?

"Why do the likes of Rex, Tadowe, Wisgod, JakSeMao, et. al. spend so much time on a site like this?"

Probably because this is where all the comedy takes place. You and your little friends are great entertainment. Where else can we learn about smokestacks on the moon and lethal weapons like car antennas? In addition, we have have discovered here that the moon landings were fake, Bush blew up the WTC, and Michael Jackson was an Americon icon/hero. Many laughs...I wouldn't trade it for a boring ol' right wing site.

"I wouldn't trade it for a boring ol' right wing site."

Can't blame you, discussing death panels, illegals getting health care, middle class tax hikes, birth certificates, etc. can begin to sound a little boring. Every once in a while try presenting a fact in one of those sites and see how long it takes before you are no longer welcome. Those who are afraid of liberal facts must prevent them from being posted.

ah yes another slef help thread

the answer is simple

without us here its just another liberal fuckwad circle jerk pile of dogshit like the huffington post and the daily jerkoff kos

you like us

you REALLY like us

I can't blame right wingers for hanging out here -- the ideological mix here is more entertaining than a lot of political blogs, if you like arguments.

But what I don't understand are the right wingers who hang out here *and* express constant contempt for how much they hate the place. It's like going to the same diner day after day and complaining about the food.

Left wingers have home-field advantage -- the stats page shows that more of the people who join the site and stick around are liberals and Democrats. But I think a lot of folks want a completely one-sided web site that reinforces their opinion, so they look to folks like Michelle Malkin, Michael Moore and Matt Drudge.

ah its like a golf course.. I went to one that I used to go to all the time and the same people were bitching about the same place.
when asked why doesnt he just leave...one guy said

why? I love it here..

Where else can we learn about smokestacks on the moon

If you are entertained, you should return the favor. Are you one of the magical appearing, moving and fading, then disappearing in 1/6th second smudge on a still picture advocates that explains the "smokestack" on the moon? If not, return the entertainment afforded you, and post your explanation for it.

www.youtube.com

and lethal weapons like car antennas?

UMMM I must have missed that one. Who said car antennas were lethal. So far you are the only one I've seen with that claim. Link?

In addition, we have have discovered here that the moon landings were fake,

Apollo 11 was faked--unless you can explain this video of Apollo 11 faking their distance from the moon.

www.youtube.com

Bush blew up the WTC,

Link? I never heard that one. Bush let it happen, and had knowledge of the attack. Silverstein knew also, and had the buildings wired---that's why there were explosions before the planes got there, and after the planes got there. Bush is barely capable of tying his shoes without help. He was simply following orders. Bin Laden didn't "confess" until just before the 2004 elections---what made you think he did it for the 3 years before that?

and Michael Jackson was an Americon icon/hero.

To millions upon millions around the world, that is true. Facts are facts. That that is, is.

Many laughs...I wouldn't trade it for a boring ol' right wing site.

With so much entertainment, you should give some payback---how about your views on the above questions?

#169 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2009-09-19 10:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

#171 | Posted by afkabl2 - EVERYONE needs a little "SLEF" help now and then!

Rcade defends the leftish urge to bar and ban, "... the stats page shows that more of the people who join the site and stick around are liberals and Democrats."

It sure demonstrates that conservatives and Republicans who do stay around have 'skins' like titanium armor.

I mean, here is a thread dedicated to reviling some rightwing personalities by name, and whining that we might actually call them some epithet or another for their tyrannical attitudes, lies and attempts to subvert reality for votes ...

Meanwhile, other threads posted by rightwingers are *removed* after a few hours of commentary, while this sort of spam remains for days on end ...

You are a bit too obvious, up there on your high horsey, Rogers ...

BTW, how about a font for the site with diacriticals, eh? For the international poster who might want to apply the appropriate term to the discussion, even if it is not one of your parrots, or even an 'evil' rightwinger ...?

"... the stats page shows that more of the people who join the site and stick around are liberals and Democrats."

That's probably because the disgraced Republicans "disappear", only to be replaced by new handles, so they won't be held to their idiotic predictions or statements. Look at all the blowhards that predicted "President McCain" who (seemingly) no longer post.

Meanwhile, other threads posted by rightwingers are *removed* after a few hours of commentary, while this sort of spam remains for days on end ...

Who's turn is it to tell Tad that the threads are dropped by software not by fiat?

Don't look at Spud.

Spud tole him last time!

Be Well.

#171 | Posted by afkabl2 - EVERYONE needs a little "SLEF" help now and then!

#175 | Posted by nanc

Spud went to a local bookstore once and asked the guy who worked there where the self help section was.

The guy sed...

"Well I could tell ya... but that would defeat the whole purpose wouldn't it?"

O_o

Be Well.

"It sure demonstrates that conservatives and Republicans who do stay around have 'skins' like titanium armor."

You would think people with "titanium" skins wouldn't spend all their time whining about being "reviled", "persecuted", "dehumanized", etc.

I mean, here is a thread dedicated to reviling some rightwing personalities by name ...

Cue the violins.

Cue the violins

/Couldn't resist.

Be Well.

/Supa gone now!

"And if I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and good night!"


And it's "Cue the Sun".

Great flick, was there when they were filming it.

www.youtube.com

It's like going to the same diner day after day and complaining about the food.--Rcade


True--it's like the guy who has a baloney sandwich every day for lunch and complains about it. When asked "who makes his lunch"?--the guy replies "I do".


It's funner here! Well for the most part.

Why do we? Just like a visit to the Zoo.

☺☻♣◘○♣☻♦☺♣♥☻☺

Why do we? Just like a visit to the Zoo.

#185 | Posted by Greatamerican

Yeah, but most visitors to the zoo don't make a point of climbing inside the cages. Generally speaking, most of the obnoxious and insulting posters on this site are rightwingers.

Dammit, Tadowe.

Would you PLEASE start your own site? It'd be a hell of a lot of fun.

For me, the question isn't "why?", but rather, "why not?"

I happened on this site by accident, assuming that "drudge.com" would take me to the Drudge RePort. Frankly, I'm glad I was mistaken, as I have a lot of fun here. And that's why I'm here, for fun.

#187 | POSTED BY MODER8
"Generally speaking, most of the obnoxious and insulting posters on this site are rightwingers."

You may be right about that, but it's not like the DR is lacking in obnoxious left-wing posters. I suppose it's a matter of perspective. If I'm a right-winger, I'm not going to find it as obnoxious as you are. Look at the reaction to Joe Wilson, for example. On the other hand, if I'm a left-winger, I'm not going to find obnoxious left-wing posts that obnoxious.

I'm with Kanrei's #55, "I really don't consider this a "left wing blog," but rather a political blog hosted by a left leaning person. The truth is that any of us can post any story we want here and there are just as many conservative or moderate stories as there are left wing ones. This is, from what I have seen, the lone site that allows total discussion of any subject by anyone."

Essentially, it's an all-you-can-eat buffet, with food from virtually every cuisine out there. And I enjoy snacking.

Actually, it doesn't bother me that rightwingers post on this site. What bothers me is how consistently abusive, stupid and obnoxious many of them are.

I understand that, but I'm also saying that right-wingers do not have a corner on the market of "abusive, stupid and obnoxious", consistently or otherwise.

And I'm regrettably including myself.

consistently abusive, stupid and obnoxious

Consistency is definitely one of our parties main goals.

Dammit, Tadowe.
Would you PLEASE start your own site? It'd be a hell of a lot of fun.
#188 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2009-09-19 04:36 PM

Knowing it's past posts that might not be that much entertainment and moreso clinical drama.


"consistently abusive, stupid and obnoxious"

Consistency is definitely one of our parties main goals.
#192 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2009-09-19 05:45 PM

Your party is incapable of distinguishing between when it's been insulted from injured. "It's just a flesh wound!"

Consistency is definitely one of our parties main goals.

#192 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2009-09-19 05:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Agreed--it has been party over country since 1964 and the Dixiecrats jumped from the dems to the reps and implemented the Southern Strategy.

Some of them are paid marketing cocksuckers.

Others are troll feces.

And then occasionally you get real imbeciles like ray who actually smoke the shit that they are selling.

how many libs tune in rush every day of their lives?

Oorah, if every right and left leaning poster on this site had half the honesty and class that you do, this would a far more satisfying place day in and day out.

Well, I have the answer for you. People love to argue, but are afraid of getting their ass kicked. The internet is nothing more than a modified CB radio. People can get on here, talk all the smack they want, and do it with what they believe is completely anonymity.

But . . . As the owner of my own websites and servers, I know who everyone is and where they are. There is no anonymity.

One more thing. I go to many different news sites and see people from both sides of the isle attacking each other. Trust me, you enjoy the traffic. Don't act like you want all the righties to leave your site. What would the lefties do with no one to argue with? JD

I do the same thing on my site. I am a conservative independent, not a republican. But people come on there and attack me and my ideas all the time. Its fun. JD

What a biased assumption, moder8.


Not everyone who comes here is a leftie or a rightie. Rather, some of us are actually reading and responding from a different. We don't find the linear "left right" to be anything but a simplistic way of viewing multidimensional political discourse.

Some of us that are neither hope to engage in debate and discussion here and elsewhere to arrive at an intelligent conclusion. Unfortunately, we find too many places, here and elsewhere, that are composed of people with narrow minds and unfounded beliefs.

So that's at least ONE reason why SOME of us, who aren't "right wingers" nor "left wingers" come here.

Daprof: The question I asked, which your answer had nothing to do with, is, Why Do So Many Right Wingers Flock to a Left-Wing Blog? This thread is not about non-partisans looking for honest debate. In fact, I think most people would agree, that such people contribute a great deal to this sit.

"Not everyone who comes here is a leftie or a rightie."

What a concept; Shades of gray; more than one dimension.

"Not everyone who comes here is a leftie or a rightie."

LOL

I laugh when people call me both!

Daprof says, "So that's at least ONE reason why SOME of us, who aren't "right wingers" nor "left wingers" come here.

You are the politically timid, who can't stand to face any controversy in your fearful lives.

You can find commentary on both right and left to disagree with, according to your opinion(s) but you are nothing more than intellectual cowards who are unwilling to chance being insulted for reasoning your political opinion(s).

You are just as much cowards, as are the yellow-dog leftists who use insult as political discourse, and refuse to acknowledge any fact presented in contradiction to their 'Blue Sky' efforts to advance dreams over reality ...

FO, all you intellectually challenged, and timid ... your commentary is useless, anyway ...

they are making RCADE's nut and don't even know it.. funny as shit to taunt and flip them off and watch them verbally freak out..

Honestly, the hard right people here, remind be of angry, disturbed children. Quick to mock, full of derision, sarcasm and four letter words.

I think the first mistake was naming it "Drudge Retort". I think a lot of the right-wingers see this while doing a search and then sort of stumble into the blog and stay; and then of course began to wear their welcome out.

I'd keep a lot of the stuff the same but just rename the blog site to something more original. Something progressively catchy. If you did this I think in time the wingnut trolls would vanish dramatically.

I don't honestly recall how I stumbled onto this site. But I will admit it took me a long time to actually post something.

I was so afraid of 101. I thought he'd rip my head off!

Legio says, "they are making RCADE's nut and don't even know it.. funny as shit to taunt and flip them off and watch them verbally freak out.."they are making RCADE's nut"!

It doesn't matter what conservative might have the temerity to state their opinion on this site! All of them will be reviled, dehumanized and vilified for votes ... while the terminally timid of the lot whine about "rightwingers" spoiling their "fun" ...

... go lie on FR, if you dare to make idiotic comments like this one ... see what happens you ersatz 'independent' ...

Well that is what you get after 20 years of daily Limbaugh spoon-feedings. These people really do not think. It's all reactionary. The funniest byline I read at DailyKos once was:

"You can lead a conservative to the facts, but you can't make him think."


I really think this says it all!

I am in a debate over on Facebook right now and it is amazing how much more polite everyone is when your real name and photo pops up next to what you say.

who are you having a debate with Kan?

Shane comes back, "You can lead a conservative to the facts, but you can't make him think."

This is your statement, not some quote from others ...

You literally flee from stating your own opinion, and whatever 'facts' you claim the left uses ...

... if I'm incorrect, state some facts which support socialisation of America ...

... give it a try, if you aren't the horse-you-can-lead-to-water 'progressive' timid tilly ...

Lisa,
I took the Carter poll and there is a running debate there right now.

What's the Carter Poll, Kan?

BTW....I loved your reference to Fiddler on the Roof!!

My fav!!

It should be on your wall. I think I accidentally sent my comments to everyone .

Never mind, Kan...I'm gonna go look.

LOL

Ok

"state some facts which support socialisation of America ..."

Police. The Fire Department. The Military.

"Police. The Fire Department. The Military."

Public roads.

See above efforts to misdirect, thereby proving their intellectual timidity ...

See? The mental incompetents can't begin to stop misdirecting! They 'answer' conflating social programs/infrastructure with socialist economics ...

They are not only intellectually timid, but bereft, as well ...

^.^

I'm a conservative, but I'm also a historian, and I am going for a second Master's degree in Counseling Psychology.

I've known about this site for a while, but rediscovered it when I was putting together my iGoogle page at work. I like the site, and I like the back-and forth ... all of it. I know that the site has it's irates on both sides, and they are sometimes very entertaining.

If I had to cite one way in which this site is useful, I would say that it allows people on both sides of an issue to sound off and get whatever frustrations and angers about a subject out ...

... thus allowing them to not have to keep all fo that pent-up inside.

I do maintain a website, and I am in the process of putting my thoughts together on a number of recent issues. Please feel free to go to:

www.politicscity.com

...and look at the blog posts and entries in the commentaries sections. There are articles going back to 2006. Please feel free to respond to any oof them. :)

John B.

"They 'answer' conflating social programs/infrastructure with socialist economics ..."

As if none of those social benefits cost money.

The funniest byline I read at DailyKos once was:

#214 | Posted by shane

I've never seen anyone admit they read that site. LMAO. That's damn funny.

Dan gets specious, "As if none of those social benefits cost money."

You're a bit too dense for this sort of discussion, Dan ...

"You're a bit too dense for this sort of discussion"

You're just embarrassed you got proven so wrong, so effortlessly. There are socialistic aspects of many areas of society. And some are actually -- gasp! -- useful. That doesn't mean those who believe in the library believe in across-the-board socialism. Just because you can't see anything but black and white doesn't mean there isn't a rainbow out there.

Oorah, if every right and left leaning poster on this site had half the honesty and class that you do, this would a far more satisfying place day in and day out.
#199 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-09-19 08:10 PM

Agreed!

is this a leftwing site?

Oorah, if every right and left leaning poster on this site had half the honesty and class that you do, this would a far more satisfying place day in and day out.
#199 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-09-19 08:10 PM

Agreed!

#231 | Posted by redlightrobot


I second that. Always enjoy Oohrah.

masochism
humor
instant and (largely) unmoderated discussion of everything in the universe at some point or another

but the term 'yellow dogs' is a bit of a misnomer then, if so many think of this site as left-leaning... but how can comments ONLY be leaning in one direction or another?
i think the lean is in your mind.

also many here, like me, are center. not with a fence up or butts, but genuinely leaning this way on this issue and that way on that issue.

it's called thinking.

is this a leftwing site?
#232 | Posted by nanc at 2009-09-19 10:39 PM

In my opinion this is an un-partisan site - as in it's political leanings are entirely dependent upon whom posts what topics.

"Non-partisan is an impossibility" as Tadowe would bitch.

"Other-partisan is obvious enough" as DaProf would slur.

"Multi-partisan is entirely relevant" as Zatoichi would scowl.

"Part gin, part juice" as DethSpud would mock in the voice of white Snoop Dogg.

"Party in my tummy" as Zulu would squirm.

Why Do So Many Right Wingers Flock to a Left-Wing Blog?

As clearly stated in the subtitle, the Drudge Retort was conceived as a site for left-wingers to discuss ideas. And yet many, if not most of the loudest and most ubiquitous contributors are extreme right-wingers. Why do the likes of Rex, Tadowe, Wisgod, JakSeMao, et. al. spend so much time on a site like this? Aren't there plenty of other sites posters of that ilk can go to spew their angry bile

In other words, Moder8 wants to exist in an echo-chamber and resents that the Right Wingers on her don't.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Legio says, "they are making RCADE's nut and don't even know it.. funny as shit to taunt and flip them off and watch them verbally freak out.."they are making RCADE's nut"!

It doesn't matter what conservative might have the temerity to state their opinion on this site! All of them will be reviled, dehumanized and vilified for votes ... while the terminally timid of the lot whine about "rightwingers" spoiling their "fun" ...

... go lie on FR, if you dare to make idiotic comments like this one ... see what happens you ersatz 'independent' ...

#213 | Posted by tadowe

The Free Re-pubic? Those faggots wouldn't even publish my opinions much less retort back.

Oh.. screw it fuck you.. The fact remains.. more hits and posts allow Rogers to make more coin..

keep it comin' oh orator of the brown eye.

So tell me, Moom, do they still have the super secret Darth Cave over at Hannity?

Did they ever invite you in?

This thread is actually better than lunar smokestacks and the sexual dysfunction of Republican representatives! It's like a mile-high club, but it's really a mile high club sandwich.. invent your own mental images of Wisgod sputched between the bloated folds of Goatman and Nanc.

A conservative commentator in a small paper here runs a blog that is largely populated by conservative individuals. I only lurk at the blog. The anger, hate and venom that is often displayed here is there as well. Add to the mix is a healthy dose of Ayn Rand devotees and you seriously have to ask what happened to the party of Lincoln.

Moder8, are you kidding me? You actually have to ask this question?

Let's see - if you're a right-winger posting on a left-wing site (or vice versa, for that matter) what happens? Two things: (1) you get huge amounts of abuse thrown at you, and (2) you get to hurl it right back, no holds barred either way. What's the appeal? I don't know - sadomasochism?

Now before any original framers of the Constitution read this(they have high-speed up in heaven by now, don't they?), and decide to flame my ass for being an obvious racist, let me say that I do not believe for a second that ALL right-wingers are SM, only the ones who post on Drudge Retort.

I like hearing opposing points of view, then expressing my own in a vile, nasty rebuttal. I love left wing talk radio also, too bad they never make money and go off the air in short fashion.

DIXIE YESTERDAY !
DIXIE TODAY !
DIXIE FOREVER !

I like hearing opposing points of view, then expressing my own in a vile, nasty rebuttal. I love left wing talk radio also, too bad they never make money and go off the air in short fashion.
DIXIE YESTERDAY !
DIXIE TODAY !
DIXIE FOREVER !
#242 | Posted by tickyul at 2009-09-19 11:35 PM

That's so hard to get out of my mind.. Dixie cups (which are kept by the bathroom sink) being lauded! You are a laugh riot waiting to be broken-up by fits of cocaine-filled balloon squeezin's.

DIXIE YESTERDAY !
DIXIE TODAY !
DIXIE FOREVER !

#242 | Posted by tickyul at 2009-09-19 11:35 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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In their hearts they know we're right.

Because we enjoy annoying libtards.

I'm sure this has already been stated, but it can really never be said enough.

In their hearts they know we're right.
#245 | Posted by igmoramus at 2009-09-20 12:45 AM

Because we enjoy annoying libtards.
I'm sure this has already been stated, but it can really never be said enough.
#246 | Posted by justanoversight at 2009-09-20 12:47 AM

Actually, there is always room for JELLO, bitches! Of course we're all about the self-deprecation, so keeps it comin'!:]

I'm a little drunk, so just go with it - you guys are a part of our collective mindspeak. Even Tadowe (whom reminds me of a very sexually frustrated golfer - distracting his comrades with titty jokes to cover for his extra strokes) merely gives anyone the green light for posting "libtardities" in as absurd a fashion as we may like. Sometimes it's enjoyable to know that the hullabaloo of the Right is just that - nonsensical absurdities requiring less wordsmithary than witchcraft.

Ahhh, BWV4 and PBR - I "IS".

Legio responds, "The fact remains.. more hits and posts allow Rogers to make more coin.."

The 'fact' remains that it is leftist Democrats who make the vast of majority of posts and 'hits' on this site, not the rightwing as you attempted to infer pejoratively.

"... keep it comin' oh orator of the brown eye."

Many of the Democrat leftists are neurotically obsessed over the righwingers who post on this site; especially those who attempt to provide discussion of the subjects of the thread, and reach an insulting conclusion regarding the ilk.

They support lots of 'hits' because there are at least two or three responses from leftists in response to one from one of the hated 'enemy' who show up the left's efforts to lie for votes, or describe the reality that Democrats have turned into the biggest thieves in US history ... giving away billions to bankers without accountability ... ad nauseam ...

Still, it is the leftists Democrats and the various dupes calling themselve's 'independents' who make the greatest majority of 'hits' for Rogers pocketbook ... so suck it up ...

"Democrats have turned into the biggest thieves in US history ... giving away billions to bankers without accountability"

Who knew Bush, Paulson, & Bernanke were Democrats?

One positive thing about this site is the diversity of opinion. I've probably even changed some of my opinions based on conversations here.

I doubt we would find worthwhile discussions here if we self-censored into a bunch of goose-stepping clones like on FreeRepublic or some of the other sites. (Only picking on FreeRepublic because I heard about them, decided to see what the fuss was about, and was banned after two posts.)

As for why the right-wingers are here, I think many people right and left alike really enjoy complaining and trying to throw shit at other people.

Democrats have turned into the biggest thieves in US history ... giving away billions to bankers without accountability ... ad nauseam ...

That's because Republicans invariably get voted out of office after they've mucked up the economy, again, leaving Democrats to do the bailing out. Ad nauseam.

That doesn't mean those who believe in the library believe in across-the-board socialism.

#230 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-09-19 10:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Libraries are also run at the city or county level, where citizens actually influence the level of service they pay for. (likewise for police and fire departments)

Socialism at the national level is not comparable

"where citizens actually influence the level of service they pay for. (likewise for police and fire departments) Socialism at the national level is not comparable"

Of course it's comperable, just on a larger scale and with deficits.

Are you using your calculator again?!?

That's what i don't get. americans tolerate so much quasi-socialism at the town, county, and state level, but not nationally. the same people why cry that obama is a socialist (when he is a stated and proven capitalist) are more or less the same people who want their local government to do this and that because they pay their property taxes. the green party and libertarian parties succeed at the local level and shine, but at the national level we seem to maintain conservatism (or its remnant, really) as the status quo, when that too is anything but. it's still the same quasi-socialism.

Those who don't see the need for two countries are fools. This is like being married to a woman that hates you and wants you dead.

Moder8 -

FUCK OFF

What, you don't like for people to spoil your circle jerk by actually making you THINK?

Libtards are so easy...

#256 | Posted by Ari at 2009-09-20 02:45 AM | Reply | Flag Mindles Zombie

"Still, it is the leftists Democrats and the various dupes calling themselve's 'independents' who make the greatest majority of 'hits' for Rogers pocketbook ... so suck it up ..."

Actually, making some folks the actual subject of the thread right off the start so they don't have to make themselves "the subject" later is an interesting twist, almost guaranteed to generate a lot of 'hits' just for being something new.

Seems to be working so far...


BOB

There's something about "e pluribus unum" that rings a faint bell in my memory.

Also, "United we stand, Divided we fall," from somewhere way back in the days of the Civil War.

You're really more out to lunch than usual on the subject of two countries.

But just for the sake of argument, where would you like to draw the new Mason-Dixon line?


Also, "United we stand, Divided we fall," from somewhere way back in the days of the Civil War.

#259 | Posted by Twinpac at 2009-09-20 03:04 AM | Reply | Flag

It isn't obvious to you that we are NOT UNITED? We are DIVIDED---we will fall if we stay together--we will tear our country apart. Like I SAID--it is like being married to a woman who wants you dead--you must think that is a good union also. If you can't see the hatred displayed by conservatives toward liberals. I can't make the point any more clear---if you call that UNITED, you are one of the fools I was talking about in my #255.

I would suggest the same split as the Civil war---or let people vote which way they prefer. Allow free immigration between the countries for 2 generations, and liberal citizenship qualifications for those who wish to switch countries at later times.

that's ridiculous, bob
each state is already free to decide its own level of socialism versus capitalism. that's what has made it work so far. states shouldn't have to be in blocs. the real problem with your theory is that it IS a different world now after 9/11. another civil war we'll be so busy fighting and just having our attention diverted, and another terrorist attack or invasion happens. what then? china invades the south or the north and we're right back in the same boat, like we were before the whole bullshit started. we don't need two countries. we need to be one country again!

That's what i don't get. americans tolerate so much quasi-socialism at the town, county, and state level, but not nationally. the same people why cry that obama is a socialist (when he is a stated and proven capitalist) are more or less the same people who want their local government to do this and that because they pay their property taxes. the green party and libertarian parties succeed at the local level and shine, but at the national level we seem to maintain conservatism (or its remnant, really) as the status quo, when that too is anything but. it's still the same quasi-socialism.
#254 | Posted by SammyV at 2009-09-20 02:34 AM

That's a keen observation. Misspellings aside, let me be clear and frank - Obama would be killed the instant he nationalized our assets, just like JFK was for that very same reason. The big families and corporate interests run us six feel under (read: soldiers who gave away LIVES), just like they've run everything else into the ground. South America is a current example - why else is everyone so anti-Chavez? He's not murdering his citizens like Saddam was.. Why would he have been the first selection for the "war on terra"? Because he nationalized Venezuelas oil reserves, coffee and other assets, just like Saddam was going to do.

To be kind, Republicans are generally wanting stability, status quo and normalcy, but are entirely unwilling to risk their own "gains" for that goal and will violently fight what they perceive as opposition to that sense. Democrats (and everyone else) are less likely to blindly follow that trend (for whatever reasons) and thus we are labeled as "two" parties. One of stability considerations, the other of critical analysis. The social attitudes are always evolving, the need for a sense of security never will. BushCo played that card mightily with the aid of all major media and thus we have "holy" wars that obfuscate the facts surround our military and corporate presence in the Middle east and continue to profit the least of us while murdering and stagnating our actual human potential. Christians who believe in the meaning of Christ should absolutely abolish The Family and all political figures who use religion above and beyond it's frugally intimated lifestyle.

Mitt Romney is another story. Mormons scare the hell out of me - what a bunch of bullshit people. Call me bigoted, but I can't identify with anything they perform or produce other than the genuinely nice family image they generally maintain. Feelings of persecution are real, mainly because they are fundamentally insolent bat shit crazy neo-religious fanatics. Same with all fundamentalist religions - stupid mounting stupid.

Not only do they retard social growth, but organized religions rakes in billions and pays ZERO in taxes - that has to end.

Now that I'm past that 40 oz (my first ever) and on to 'Piano for 8 Hands' I'm feelin' pretty nostalgic for when I was merely a cog without a cause. You can't unknow.


that's ridiculous, bob
each state is already free to decide its own level of socialism versus capitalism.

What country do YOU live in. Certainly not America. If the Federal government makes a law---ALL the States MUST follow it.

that's what has made it work so far.

What has made it work so far, is common goals---that is no longer true

states shouldn't have to be in blocs.

Shoulda would coulda---facts are states ARE in blocks. You must live in an alternate reality---when was the last time Alabama voted for a liberal--how about Georgia? Mississippi? Should I go on?

the real problem with your theory is that it IS a different world now after 9/11.

No it isn't---that is just the brainwashing put put by the government factory---911 was nothing but a criminal act perpetrated on a larger scale than most--get the perps---put them in jail--case closed.

another civil war we'll be so busy fighting and just having our attention diverted, and another terrorist attack or invasion happens.

I am trying to PREVENT another Cuivil War, by suggesting a political split rather than a blood fued like the last time. You have jumped to another wrong conclusion. I would say that is a frequent occurance in your life.

what then? china invades the south or the north and we're right back in the same boat, like we were before the whole bullshit started.


First--I doubt the Chinese could transport an army across the ocean without being sunk before they got out of their harbor--second, the split countries would still be great allies--we would just pursue different political agendas---one libveral--ne conservative--same Constitution.

we don't need two countries. we need to be one country again!

LOL how is THAT going to happen? Tell it to all the LIBTARD haters. Are you going to sudenl;y embrace gay marriage and abortion rights? How about Universal Health Care? Welfare? Who do you ecpect to CHANGE? That ship has sailed. One need only read the hate Americans share for each other to see the reality of a country that is already two countries.

#261 | Posted by SammyV at 2009-09-20 03:27 AM | Reply | Flag

There seems to be a lot of "united" going on in America when politics aren't involved.

Natural disasters, for example, when outside responders don't need voter registrations to make a decision to give help where help is needed.

Or how would two militaries work? Logistics, anyone? Military contracts? Who would be the odd man out when it's time to divy up the pilot training or up-armored personnel carriers? Can there be two Commanders of Allied Forces?

So . . . just how exactly does your "two countries" work? Where, and more importantly, how could you possibly draw the lines of demarcation? Razor wire, Check Point Charlies? Vertical, horizonal, more than one? Or maybe one of the countries could just build a Wall of China to zig-zag through the countryside.

What about medical research? Would breakthroughs be jealousy guarded? Would a Red State be forced to turn Blue or visa versa to benefit?

What about agriculture? What about the interstate system? What about national banks? What about interstate commerce? What about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Who would claim ownership?

What about pitting father against son should a war break out between your "two countries?"

It's a bad idea all around, BOB. For reasons way too numerous and complex for your overly simplistic solution.


If a house divided does not stand a house that leans either left or right will eventually land itself up upon it's head. We do not need two Countries. That would be blasphamious to our founding fathers. Do You want People or do You want robots?? You can't have ying without the yang. We need balance NOT one side or the other. Sides if everyone in Your two Countries thought acted behaved alike what fun is that??

Larry

LARRY

Aside from what both you, I and others have said about the lack of wisdom of "two countries," one country would inevitably be poor and the other would be rich . . . much like the North and South during the Civil War.

The lessons learned from the Civil War were hard learned and long lasting.

So Bob's theory get's a royal Drudge Retort Pffft!


If we had two Countries Buffalo Bob wouldn't have anything to bitch about and then He would be bored. Pure and simple.

Larry


There seems to be a lot of "united" going on in America when politics aren't involved.

So? That isn't the point--the point is politics ARE involved.

Natural disasters, for example, when outside responders don't need voter registrations to make a decision to give help where help is needed.

That wouldn't change--we help foreign counties all the time--we could certainly help our former countrymen in time of need.

Or how would two militaries work? Logistics, anyone? Military contracts? Who would be the odd man out when it's time to divy up the pilot training or up-armored personnel carriers? Can there be two Commanders of Allied Forces?

How does it work with Mexico and the US--How about Canada and the US. Split the military hardware. Each country has its own commanders just like the Civil War or Revolutionary War. Schools and education would be divided, and shared educators between the two if necessary. I guess you don't realize that we train pilots of other nations, and educate them also. The same would hold true of the two new countries.

So . . . just how exactly does your "two countries" work? Where, and more importantly, how could you possibly draw the lines of demarcation? Razor wire, Check Point Charlies? Vertical, horizonal, more than one? Or maybe one of the countries could just build a Wall of China to zig-zag through the countryside.

How do we do it with Canada? How about Mexico? Same thing.

What about medical research? Would breakthroughs be jealousy guarded? Would a Red State be forced to turn Blue or visa versa to benefit?

I guess you must think the whole world is united. I guess you think Cnanda must share everything with us. Your objection is foolish. Any medical breakthrough will be handled just as it is if any foreign country made it. Same with inventions. It is TWO COUNTRIES. You do understand that concept don't you--you realize that Mexico isn't the United States--right? If Mexico invents something--it belongs to Mexico. Same with our two countries.

What about agriculture?

What about it? Do you think there won't be trade? Do you think the people of Florida would want to sit on fifty billion oranges and not want to trade or sell them?

What about the interstate system?

Each country has its own. How about the Canadian road works. What's the problem--Each country takes care of their own roads. The liberal country would use union labor--the conservative country would use road gangs

What about national banks?

What about them? What problem do you see? Each bank decides which country's law they would like to fall under, and they make a choice. If a country needs more banks, more banks will come into existence to fill the void.

What about interstate commerce?

What about it? Same as with Canada---same as now except there may be tariffs, but trade would continue as it always has. We even trade with Canada and Mexico--does that surprise you? Is that news?

What about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Who would claim ownership?

Why does only one country get them? Why can't both countries use the same Constitution, and the same bill of rights? Liberals and conservatives have very different views as to what those documents contain. That's why there are so many 5-4 splits on the USSC.

What about pitting father against son should a war break out between your "two countries?"

War is inevitable if we don't split. I guarantee it within 100 years. But to answer your question, the same thing will happen as happened last time--each family member fights for what they believe in.

It's a bad idea all around, BOB.

That's what the Tories said before the American revolution. You realize England and the United States used to be one country don't you? The split wasn't unanimous then either, and not all the citizens considered themselves American even after the war was won.

For reasons way too numerous and complex for your overly simplistic solution.

Your personal attack is noted as is your failure to put forth a coherent argument. The questions you asked were answered in the 1860's. The South wasn't too concerned with banking, roads, interstate commerce, the military, and such things were just as vital to survival then as they are now.


#264 | Posted by Twinpac at 2009-09-20 04:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

LARRY

Bob will always have his "smokestacks" . . . a subject as yet unresolved and still open for discussion when Goatman gets back.

You'd think that with such a dangerous threat to national security practically on our doorstep, NASA would have the Hubbel focused on the moon 24/7.

I can't imagine what they must be thinking. LOL


If a house divided does not stand a house that leans either left or right will eventually land itself up upon it's head.

Wrong. A house that leans left is UNITED---a hoiuse that leans right is UNITED. The democrats are UNITED---the republicans are UNITED. The States that form the new countries would be UNITED, and have common goals. The dem States would be free to pursue their agenda without interference from reps at every turn on every issue--same with the rep States--no more dems to stand in their way.


We do not need two Countries. That would be blasphamious to our founding fathers.

What we have now is blasphemous to the Founding Fathers. Half this country absolutely hates the other half. We are like Palestinians and Jews. The same hateful rhetoric echoes on these threads as between those two peoples.

Do You want People or do You want robots?? You can't have ying without the yang. We need balance NOT one side or the other. Sides if everyone in Your two Countries thought acted behaved alike what fun is that??

Dems don't agree on everything--otherwise Health Care would have passed months ago. Same with reps. They have their disagreements among each other too. The point is, the dems all want to go in one direction, the question is how to get there. Same thing with the reps--they all want to go in the same direction, they just have different concepts of how to get there. But when we are together, neither dems or reps accomplish anything--each side holds the other back.


Larry

#265 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-09-20 04:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

BOB

Didn't you get the Pfft?

That means it's done . . . over with . . . stick a fork in it.

Or in your case, a sock.

My name's not Goatman and I don't intend to get involved in circular discussions with you about your zany theories.

Find another victim. I ain't it!

I know you love the attention (much like Tadowe in that respect) but ridicule ISN'T the sincerest form of flattery.

Believe it . . . or not.

Bob will always have his "smokestacks" . . . a subject as yet unresolved and still open for discussion when Goatman gets back.

If you had been paying attention, Goatman thinks the "smokestack" is a magical appearing, moving, fading, disappearing smudge in 1/6th second on a still picture. But you have a GIANT brain. I must have missed your GIANT brain explanation. How about it? Want to run from this conversation also. You bring up a point---let's hear you back your mouth with some logic. It must be simple for someone with such a GIANT brain.

www.youtube.com

You'd think that with such a dangerous threat to national security practically on our doorstep, NASA would have the Hubbel focused on the moon 24/7.

There's no threat to national security--if there is a civilization capable of putting that thing on the moon, we are absolulety no threat to them. We exist at their leisure. There would be nothing we could do to defend ourselves. We would be as defenseless as the ancient Mayans to a modern military force---probably more so. But YOU don't think it's aliens--YOU have a GIANT brain that knows much more than others who have viewed the video.

I can't imagine what they must be thinking. LOL

At last you make a logical statement.

Sooo--how about your GIANT brain explanation to that "smokestack.

Waiting on you.

;-)

#270 | Posted by Twinpac at 2009-09-20 04:52 AM | Reply | Flag

I have no problem with idiots as they make the word interesting and sometimes crazy, Just stop giving them power,

BOB

Once again . . . PFFT!

Maybe bold, italics and caps will help it sink in.

One can only hope.

we could have the perfect system if everyone would discuss more and name call and insult less

It doesn't take a lot to be a modern conservative...
1)Equal parts arrogance and ignorance
2)Parroting the talking points spoon fed by Beck, Limbaugh, etc.
3)A total inability to grasp the concepts of irony and hypocrisy.
That's about all it takes.

"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting." --Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh

Quoting a talk show host is not a valid argument for or against a political or social philosophy or point of view. Limbaugh is a showman and a Republican Party apologist. I don't think you can fairly describe him as a "conservative", in any sense of the word.

The fact is that you will find more "conservatives" than "liberals" in any large discussion because more Americans describe themselves as conservatives than describe themselves as liberals.

And conservative talk shows enjoy a fairly balanced listenership, while liberal or progressive talk shows tend not to be listened to by conservatives.

I for one, am both fascinated and intrigued by the views on the world that some on the left hold. It's for that reason I occasionally try to sit through shows like Olbermann, Maddow and The Ed Show. I think I'm drawn to it the way some folks are drawn to a horror movie or comedy.

Although many of the posts by the right here on DR are absurd, juvenile and frankly embarrassing, I've tried to make mine more insightful and fair. I see the DR as the one of the best sites to both learn and engage in the arena of ideas.

It is for that reason I find right-wing blog sites to be boring and self serving. I believe you can't effectively advance your cause if you speak to and among folks of like minded ideologies, unless it is for the purpose of trying to show them how to be more effective in expressing their views. Trouble is, some folks, both right and left, simply aren't smart enough to rise above talking points, bickering and name calling. Hence, they become merely the "entertainment" part of the site.

Galt says:

"The fact is that you will find more "conservatives" than "liberals" in any large discussion because more Americans describe themselves as conservatives than describe themselves as liberals."

I see this sort of thing--the numbers bit--asserted quite often. Boy, would I like to see some proof of that. Also, "liberal" has become a dirty word because of effective spin in this country. Maybe people don't want to admit it. I maintain that most people are mixed, and if we looked at basic intent of some major issues, we'd fine more common ground.

"And conservative talk shows enjoy a fairly balanced listenership, while liberal or progressive talk shows tend not to be listened to by conservatives."

HA! Balanced? Well, yes, some people who don't share conservative talk show hosts' views listen, but for various reasons--sometimes (like when Howard Stern began--no, I'm not saying he's a conservative host) to see what outrageous thing will be said next. Sometimes to "know your enemy." The second part is interesting. I bet it's true, too--that conservatives don't listen to liberal-hosted radio shows. You know, 'cause liberals are insane.

And Libertarian_GI says:

" I believe you can't effectively advance your cause if you speak to and among folks of like minded ideologies, unless it is for the purpose of trying to show them how to be more effective in expressing their views."

Awesome! I say this all the time, and to students (not on politics, or not only, but in general).

"Trouble is, some folks, both right and left, simply aren't smart enough to rise above talking points, bickering and name calling."

Funny, and apparently painfully true.

"I believe you can't effectively advance your cause if you speak to and among folks of like minded ideologies,..."


You don't REALLY believe you might "effectively advance your cause" by anything you post on the DR, do you? If so, I suggest you start with Buffaloed_Boob and some of his little friends. When you have successfully convinced him that there are no smokestacks on the moon I'll follow you in all things as faithfully as Corky follows Obama.

Maybe because its easy and fun to poke holes through left wingers.... or yellow dogs...

Jest, you're going a bit extreme here. The point is, we don't learn or grow by having conversations with like-minded people. Of course, we don't learn or grow by f'in screaming at each other either...

Yeah, EZ, you succeed soooo often.

And do you mean poke holes through left wingers' ideas, or are you really wanting to do violence unto your fellow man?

ideas

"Jest, you're going a bit extreme here."

Isn't that all a part of the entertainment?

"The point is, we don't learn or grow by having conversations with like-minded people."

I got the point. MY point was that you might seek "growth" and "learn" more in some other venue. Unless, of course, you're susceptible to accepting that there are smokestacks on the moon.

"I got the point. MY point was that you might seek "growth" and "learn" more in some other venue. Unless, of course, you're susceptible to accepting that there are smokestacks on the moon."

Okay, okay, so you're going for the silly. : )

But really, I have learned and had my thoughts provoked (to use a weak phrase) here. I have also giggled and been irked by trolls. It's a mixed bag.

But yeah, I do really learn from some of the so-called conservatives. And I've had some great conversations. I think Moder8 intro'd this thread with overly strong language, but it's an active thread so maybe that's what he wanted.

"And I've had some great conversations."

It's possible...sometimes. However, the comedy is always first class. It's a good way to kill time until kickoff.

Oh, ye gods. Football. Feh. : )

When you think of the profound wisdom of Abe Lincoln, and the common sense and honest populism of Teddy Roosevelt, you do have to scratch your head and wonder. Where are the gentlemanly conservatives like William F. Buckley today? I think even Ronald Reagan would be dismayed at the GOP's present state. Today the Grand Old Party has gravitated to what I call Hitler-Lite. Instead of honest civil debate they attack and ridicule viciously,and instead of Jews being the scapegoat it's the Liberals.

"...because more Americans describe themselves as conservatives than describe themselves as liberals."


Yeah, that should be obvious from the last two national elections.

Conservatives love cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.


("It doesn't take a lot to be a modern conservative...
1)Equal parts arrogance and ignorance
2)Parroting the talking points spoon fed by Beck, Limbaugh, etc.
3)A total inability to grasp the concepts of irony and hypocrisy.
That's about all it takes."


"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting." --Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh)

Here is a perfect example of the entertainment you get on a lib site like this one. Simply apply a situation or statement, and without any context, leave the interpretation up to the reader, based on the words as they stand. Most cons would look at this as Rush pointing out the libs exploiting Michael J Fox to push their agenda, and consider it scum politics. Most libs would eagerly await comments like this, so they can accuse cons of all being heartless and cold.

Only on sites like this, can cons point out the hypocrisy of libs and show their ignorant, foolish ways. Getting some libs here to get angered and lose it, is just another added bonus.

keep your friends close and your enemy closer

"keep your friends close and your enemy closer"

Advice for paranoid fucktards everywhere.

I do it to show my children how wrong people can be... liberals are so predictable, selfish, egotistical, and of the mark... It's a great example for my children to see how stupid you can look if you open your mouth without knowing facts or thinking first.


I do it to show my children how wrong people can be... liberals are so predictable, selfish, egotistical, and of the mark... It's a great example for my children to see how stupid you can look if you open your mouth without knowing facts or thinking first.

#295 | Posted by spc1970 at 2009-09-20 11:30 AM |

I wonder if the likes of danni, Corky, Celisary, BOob, Starvis and way to many libs to be named, proudly show their posts to their kids.lol

#295 | Posted by spc1970 at 2009-09-20 11:30 AM |

#296 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-09-20 11:34 AM | Reply | Flag twits

I doubt you two twits together could stand up to a bit of logic, and I'd let you pick the subject. I've seen examples of your posts, and there's a farm someplace in Texas missing its bullshit.

"I do it to show my children how wrong people can be... liberals are so predictable, selfish, egotistical, and of the mark... It's a great example for my children to see how stupid you can look if you open your mouth without knowing facts or thinking first."

Let me just change a word: "I do it to show my children how wrong people can be... CONSERVATIVES are so predictable, selfish, egotistical, and of the mark... It's a great example for my children to see how stupid you can look if you open your mouth without knowing facts or thinking first."

See how absurd the statement is. _People_ can be wrong. I agree wtih that. See how stupid you can be without knowing facts or thinking first--I can agree with that. But these behaviors are hardly limited to folks on one side of the aisle or the other.

And I would be proud to show my posts to my kids, if they were old enough to get the arguments. But I'm not on Crispee's list. : ) (Though I must say, most of those named write just fine and bring up interesting points, though if your assumption is that liberals have a mental illness, well, there ya go. Self-fulfilling and all that...)

#297...
That would be the first admission. No, I am embarrassed to show my kids what a fucking nutjob I am.(BOob)

And I would be proud to show my posts to my kids, if they were old enough to get the arguments. But I'm not on Crispee's list. : ) (Though I must say, most of those named write just fine and bring up interesting points, though if your assumption is that liberals have a mental illness, well, there ya go. Self-fulfilling and all that...)

#298 | Posted by pragmatist at 2009-09-20 11:41 AM

Funny, I didn't think someone would be upset for being excluded from the list. Sorry to disappoint you, but you were far from the list to begin with. I am one who thinks you tend to post that tends to reflect your name here. Not saying I agree with everything or the opposite.

Since you painted my position as someone with a self-fulfilling assumption of all liberals being mental, are there not posts by such liberals here that can be viewed as someone at least mentally challenged for the moment? lol

you tend to post that tends...

Ouch.

That would be the first admission. No, I am embarrassed to show my kids what a fucking nutjob I am.(crispee_oc)

#299 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-09-20 11:43 AM | Reply | Flag

Finally some sense from you---you just got the name wrong at the end. But at least you tried your best.

FTFY

One of these days you will make a valid point, and use logic instead of name calling to back it up. Someday--if you work and study real hard.

bwaha-erk

sorry couldn't keep from starting to laugh. But seriously--someday, you will make a point. I've heard even a monkey with a typewriter will make a point someday, so you see? There is hope for you too.

#302...

Thanks for fulfilling my post #292 BOob.

Thanks for fulfilling my post #292 BOob.

#303 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-09-20 12:14 PM | Reply | Flag

Thanks for fulfilling my #302 crispee oc. Keep trying--someday you'll make a point without name calling.

All you have is name calling so far, but try and try again. Weak minds CAN get stronger with effort. So far, your effort is weak too--but your persistence is admirable.

"you tend to post that tends...
Ouch."

Heh. Yeah, but I got your point. (See, Afk, I can read through slip-ups.) Thanks for the acknowledgment.


#295 | Posted by spc1970 at 2009-09-20 11:30 AM |


#296 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-09-20 11:34 AM | Reply | Flag twits


I doubt you two twits together could stand up to a bit of logic, and I'd let you pick the subject. I've seen examples of your posts, and there's a farm someplace in Texas missing its bullshit.

#297 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-09-20 11:40 AM | Reply | Flag

Crispee oc runs from this thread--spc1970 bails on another thread.

Ta DAAAA

;-)

Righties always have trouble telling left from right. Some of them write it on the tops of their shoes as a reminder.

The obvious reason is that paid Control NAZIs like BECK, DRUDGE, LUSH LimpBong gets paid $millions by their blind minions yet NONE offers Comments on their "fancy" web sites , BLOGS or any possible "RISK or REALITY" or facts, opinions of any way, shape or form.

This allows them to continue "programming" the clones against defending themselves from truth, exploitation and self destruction at the ReFlubliCon's own profit.

ReFlubLiCons Heros?

ALL combined BECK, Drudge or Lush have ZERO (0) formal Education, actual experience or results in Politics, Economics, Law, Civics, Military or anything they 100% must lie about broadcasting "in ExHELLence"..!???

They are all obviously Media Comedians and prop comics like Carrot Top!
the "prop" being RNC talking lies, of course



Glen Heck, Shawn inSannity, swamp Drudge, Bill O'RileUp, Lush are all obviously Media Comedians and prop comics like fellow prankster Carrot Top!

instead of funny tho; the "props" are serious, dangerous, disastrous daily RNC talking lies that hurt America and Americans

Is it any wonder righties come to this site? Look at the gems #'s 308 and 309. Where else can you find such insight, original thought and the ability to use bold and italics? Not to mention see the same ignorant ad nauseum posts about any succesful radio or TV personality. Who just so happen to outnumber the fools from the left by about 10-1.

Posted by gunner

Successful people are so annoying aren't they. If only they would share their wealth the world would be a happier place.

Crispy ditto brained, why do you insist on imitating your messiah Lush and attack the messenger while ignoring the obvious truth to the message:

LUSH DOES NOT OFFER COMMENTS ON HIS SITE - Too Scared of allowing FACTS or Reality from introducing itself to his captive victims

Misery Toy yo yo, "success" is defined by each person differently.

You are so trained to respect only wealth that you worship and praise your heros like $mega $billionaire mexican drug lord then for all his wealth and "success"..??

Y'all folks are so deeply deranged to require and truly need a Lush colon cleansing labotomy, seriously....


Crispy ditto brained, why do you insist on imitating your messiah Lush and attack the messenger while ignoring the obvious truth to the message:


LUSH DOES NOT OFFER COMMENTS ON HIS SITE - Too Scared of allowing FACTS or Reality from introducing itself to his captive victims


#312 | Posted by gunner at 2009-09-20 02:49 PM

One would have to see or hear subject in order to imitate. Don't listen to Rush. STRIKE 1

Attacking the messenger doesn't work, because your ignorant, childish rants have no message. Just a whining opinion. STRIKE 2

Facts or reality are obviously not in your playbook based on the two worthless rants in question. STRIKE 3

Hey at least you struck out swinging.

LUSH DOES NOT OFFER COMMENTS ON HIS SITE - Too Scared of allowing FACTS or Reality from introducing itself to his captive victims

#312 | Posted by gunner

He takes callers. Isn't that the same thing? Well not for you because we would all hear your high pitched whiny voice.

Crispy OC (open cranium), you are stroked out swinging ... at Air!

Your own worthless comments offer zero merit and, as all blinded ditto-sheep, instead features the exactly opposite of the reality posted right here that my messages are provable and you have none

Put that into your obvious lushBong political crack pipe tokes you exhale and use to soil up this site!

* You ReFlubliCons supported disastrous Bush rules and growing national debt by $9 trillion in 8 years - STRIKE 1

* You ReFlubliCons demanded to stay the course on the destroyed economy - STRIKE 2

* You ReFlubliCons demand to stay the course on rapidly rising, dangerous deadly Insurance company profits - STRIKE 3

Y'all have been KNOCKED OUT on Nov 2008 and floated for years in a cloud of LushBong crack pipe putrid punditry

Misery Toy, you cannot be Serious!??

Lush Bag does not take real "callers"..!!

Of course He only takes softball questions or ass kissin' sap lovin' hillbilly ditto-crackheads regurgitations from his previous lying sessions

The paid screeners would NEVER allow a serious reality or fact pass into their captive victim's ditto-heads of brainwash...

One would have to see or hear subject in order to imitate. Don't listen to Rush. STRIKE 1

Listens to Rush. STRIKE1

Attacking the messenger doesn't work, because your ignorant, childish rants have no message. Just a whining opinion. STRIKE 2

Always attacks messenger, never makes a point. STRIKE 2

Facts or reality are obviously not in your playbook based on the two worthless rants in question. STRIKE 3

Never uses facts, avoids reality, runs from all debate, considers name caling a valid point in his favor. STRIKE 3

Top of the second, coming up. This is a fun game. Who wants to bet crispee oc runs, or starts with name calling?

Y'all have been KNOCKED OUT on Nov 2008 and floated for years in a cloud of LushBong crack pipe putrid punditry

#316 | Posted by gunner

I'm sure in 2012 when you're looking up the dress of a Republican President we will find you exactly where you are now, in your mothers basement.

Misery Toy - No surprise that you are wishing for "more of the same" desruction, distaster, damaged govt and economy from the ReFlubliCons President..!??

Why's that? They promisin' another $500/yr blood money tax cut to raise the nation debt another $1.5 Trillion per years?

Of course admitted Misery lovers like y'all totally hate that Obama fixed and reversed the Bush 8 years depression in 8 months!

Obama reduced $3.5 trillion from the next 10 year budget by eliminating wasteful and dangerous Bush "policies" for the wealthiest!

Obama has done more to assist real Americans in 8 months than Bush and ReFlubliCon Congresses did in 8 years - well, actually extremely negative and destructive policies for America and Americans!

So - Y'all want to go backwards again and stop progress towards RECOVERY, Healing and Prosperity after your much wanted Bush Depression!??

Seriously, y'all are compeltely deranged...

Often the people who are the most vocal against Ruch Limbaugh have never even heard his show.

Obama has done more to assist real Americans in 8 months than Bush and ReFlubliCon Congresses did in 8 years

#321 | Posted by gunner

You have your facts wrong. According to the Democratic Holy Man web site it only took 8 days.

Q: Why Do So Many Right Wingers Flock to a Left-Wing Blog?

A: Because they're parasitic by nature.

A: Because Rush told them to.

A: Because their dick was stuck in the chicken (or sister)

A: Because they need constant conflict to feed their sense of self-worth.


"Listening" to Lush is not the same as "processing" what he is saying which involves weighing his qualifications and motives to correctly decide to dump all his filthy lies and paid self-interested waste as putrid pundit puke

But the ditto-"heads" are like porta potties with wide open mouths which automatically accept and swallow all waste, firment the filth in a pool of hot scum and spread the toxins disguised with coatings of false truths

Y'all are truley disgusting!


Q: Why Do So Many Right Wingers Flock to a Left-Wing Blog?

A: Because they're parasitic by nature.

A: Because Rush told them to.

A: Because their dick was stuck in the chicken (or sister)

A: Because they need constant conflict to feed their sense of self-worth.

#324 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

We are polite too and on behalf of all the Righties on DR, I would like to thank you for stopping by and enlightening us with your vast knowledge.

#318...


One would have to see or hear subject in order to imitate. Don't listen to Rush. STRIKE 1

Listens to Rush. STRIKE1

BOob wants me to run from this? Why? Because it makes him look like a fucking idiot? lol

"Listening" to Lush is not the same as "processing" what he is saying which involves weighing his qualifications and motives to correctly decide to dump all his filthy lies and paid self-interested waste as putrid pundit puke

#321 | Posted by gunner

Sometimes I think my aluminum helmet is interfering with his message and I just chant the Harri Krishna.

According to my Rush Limbaugh Handbook all we have to do is repeat the verifiable facts and the insect will die from his own bile.

Like you, I'd like to hear lib callers rationally debate with Rush. I could probably count on one hand all these years when I've actually heard that.

That's because the libs are screened out. I couldn't find one lib caller on Youtube. that should be a clue. Here is what a republican had to say about Rush, and Rushs response even to republicans and vets who disagree with him. Notice Rush pays no attention to what the caller says when he says he voted for McCain, and later accuses him of voting for Obama--then attacks him anyway for voting for McCain.

www.youtube.com


Am I to believe those "legit" libs are screened out? How would that occur?

All they have to do is talk to the callers a few minutes before passing them on or shunting them aside. I could easily tell you weren't a lib in one post. Here is Rush when faced with a regular audience consisting of random Americans.

www.youtube.com

#320 | Posted by OohRah at 2009-09-20 03:29 PM | Reply | Flag


Q: Why Do So Many Right Wingers Flock to a Left-Wing Blog?


A: Because they're parasitic by nature.


A: Because Rush told them to.


A: Because their dick was stuck in the chicken (or sister)


A: Because they need constant conflict to feed their sense of self-worth.


Interesting...

A: Might have something there about the parasitic nature. Of course that would mean you or the libs site are the hosts serving the dinner to the right.

A: Don't listen to Rush and doubt he would ask listeners to come to sites here. Unless of course all other libs sites have hacks like BOob and others to laugh at.

A: A little wharped for my taste

A: Again, you may have something there. Although I certainly don't get any extra net worth arguing with the sane, repectful posters here. But I do get a laugh out the others.

any extra net worth ...

Sorry, self-worth.

Misery Toy - the "mystery" is that the toy surely involves "self pain" as you must all be mental and masochists to support and promote one drop of toxic ReFlubliCon all-3-branches-controlled-"
policies" which plainly proved for 8 years to destroy the entire country and world as fast as possible..!??

"Mission accomplished" and now you bend over for more, MOre, MORE "Misery Toy" pain from Rush POUNDING you with postulic "pleasure"..!

"How would that occur?"

Call screening.

"Listening" to Lush is not the same as "processing" what he says which involves weighing his (non) qualifications vs. (profit) motives to correctly decide to dump all his filthy lies and paid transparent self-interested waste as putrid pundit puke

But the ditto-"heads" are like porta potties with wide open mouths which automatically accept and swallow all waste, firment the filth in a pool of hot scum and spread the toxins disguised with coatings of false truths

Y'all are truly disgusting!

Since you painted my position as someone with a self-fulfilling assumption of all liberals being mental, are there not posts by such liberals here that can be viewed as someone at least mentally challenged for the moment? lol


#300 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-09-20 11:51 AM

Would it be fair to say Gunner emulates this retort?

But what I don't understand are the right wingers who hang out here *and* express constant contempt for how much they hate the place. It's like going to the same diner day after day and complaining about the food

Rcade

probably because the pay scale is better for here than other political blogs?


www.cjnews.com

"Most cons would look at this as Rush pointing out the libs exploiting Michael J Fox to push their agenda, and consider it scum politics."
This little gem from CRISPEE OC just verifies what I said about the conservatives total inability to grasp the concepts of irony and/or hypocrisy.

"The true hypocrite is the one who ceases to perceive his deception, the one who lies with sincerity"
--Andre Gide--

From my last post to this one, I find virtually no discussion of anything aside from personal attacks, name-calling, vulgar words. Nothing that would further meaningful discourse.

My comments were based entirely on statistical data, obtained from ratings services.

So in an effort to foster something other than diarreha of the mouth, allow me to propose the following:

The direction of this country is irreversible. The number of PRODUCERS diminishes every year. These are the people responsible for the success of this great nation. Conversely, the number of PARASITES increases every year. These are people who for one reason or another live off the PRODUCERS. The PRODUCERS pay taxes to the government, and the money is then given to the bureaucrat parasites and eventually some of it ends up with the other parasites, through various social welfare programs.

Because the PARASITE-PRODUCER ratio keeps rising, and the PARASITES vote, there is no hope for a reversal. The end result is that everyone will depend on the government for support. The PRODUCERS will of course one-by-one stop producing, the PARASITES will scratch their heads and wonder what happened, as this once-great nation withers into a third-world country. At the same time, the former third-world nations are developing to replace us as economic, political, and military leaders.

"Because the PARASITE-PRODUCER ratio keeps rising, "

And of course, the super uber-capitalist John Galt is one of the "producers" eh, "Galt"? You posting from Galt's Gulch? How's Dagney Taggart? LOL

policies" which plainly proved for 8 years to destroy the entire country and world as fast as possible..!??

#333 | Posted by gunner

and somehow we missed you. How unfortunate.

"Most cons would look at this as Rush pointing out the libs exploiting Michael J Fox to push their agenda, and consider it scum politics."

This little gem from CRISPEE OC just verifies what I said about the conservatives total inability to grasp the concepts of irony and/or hypocrisy.
#339 | Posted by BillyChan at 2009-09-20 04:24 PM

By all means explain the irony and hypocrisy. The left exploited Michael J Fox in his "shaking" condition for the stem cell initiatives and votes. The ad was meant to demonize repubs as being against ANY funding or research. In my opinion, that is scum politics.

Because the PARASITE-PRODUCER ratio keeps rising, and the PARASITES vote, there is no hope for a reversal. The end result is that everyone will depend on the government for support. The PRODUCERS will of course one-by-one stop producing, the PARASITES will scratch their heads and wonder what happened, as this once-great nation withers into a third-world country. At the same time, the former third-world nations are developing to replace us as economic, political, and military leaders.


#340 | Posted by Galt

I had the same basic theory with the drug laws. As people get busted for drug possession they lose their right to vote and thereafter or shortly thereafter cannot vote to change the law.

#340...

I thought the parasitic nature retort was from ancient Greece where "parasites" were considered professional dinner guests.

GALT:
I believe everything you say is correct, but the real question is "who do you believe are the parasites?"
I believe the parasites are the people that profit on the misery of others. (War machine, for profit insurance companies, politicians etc.)
People on the right will point to the least advantaged as the problem. (The old, sick, poor, mentally deficient, etc)
So I guess it boils down to this: do you root for the wealthiest, most powerful among us, or the least among us?
As a liberal, I believe all great societies are judged by how they treat the least among them.

It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.

--Mike Royko--

"The sad part is that libs can actually present valid arguments, but consistently fail to do so in a reasonable manner with Rush.'

If you think Rush would allow a valid argument that contradicts anything he says, you're an idiot.

"By all means explain the irony and hypocrisy." from CRISPEE OC
Ya got me there.CRISPEE.
The right never exploits a given situation for political gain.
Again, you are clearly showing a lack of conceptualizing hypocrisy.

"Republicans portray the government as the enemy. Then when they take over, they prove it.
--Dsduryea--

If you think Rush would allow a valid argument that contradicts anything he says, you're an idiot.

#347 | Posted by Angrydad

That's disappointing. I felt he enjoyed debating. I guess that makes me the idiot.

There used to be this guy on talk radio who would hang up on anyone who disagreed with the theme of his program for that day. I always changed the channel on him.

Has anyone here tried to debate Rush or are you simply making an assumption?

#348...

You also didn't refute my post, other than to say the right has done it. Maybe you agree the dems used Michael J.

Your little quotes remind me of the Seinfeld episode, with Donna Chang.

I'm not sure but I think he takes callers every Friday. It may be hard but not impossible to get through with some persistence.

If you really want to debate Rush you need to do it in person. I heard he enjoys that.

Think, then, for a moment. A lib who wants to get on there has decisions... act like a douche to the screener and, if you're to be believed, get put right through... OR... knowing only douches get put through... act like a douche and then act reasonably. The DR left has it figured out... why not others?

Your strawman is weak, as most strawmen are. The only one using the word DOUCHE is YOU. As stated--it is easy to tell a lib from a con---you gave yourself away with your name.

After over 20 years I'd think libs would have caught on by now, no?

You haven't--why expect more from others?

The reality is that libs simply don't measure up in terms of having a reasonable discussion with Rush. Whether that's because of nerves, I don't know... but it's almost comical how callers devolve to name calling, etc. One would think there'd be lib callers who wouldn't lose their cool.

Rush is an unreasonable person. You failed to address the link I posted to Rush being himself in front of a random sampling of Americans. Let's try again.

www.youtube.com

The sad part is that libs can actually present valid arguments, but consistently fail to do so in a reasonable manner with Rush.

Your condescending attitude is noted. "Poor libs can't have reaonable conversations with Rush--awwww--so sad". Rush Limbaugh is exactly as the republican caller describes. Tell me what you think is a reasonable Rsuh comment.

www.youtube.com

#337 | Posted by OohRah at 2009-09-20 04:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

I love this blog, even with the snarky comments all points of view can be heard. It would be boring to see all agree on a subject....this challenges people to back up what they think.

You also didn't refute my post, other than to say the right has done it. Maybe you agree the dems used Michael J.
I don't need to refute your post.
The fact is, the MJ Fox clip is a perfect example of your mis-understanding.
You would have me believe that Michael J Fox is exploiting himself, since he was the one behind the original clip that Rush was making fun of.
You attack the left (even though it was Fox) for posting the video.
Then, you defend Rush (clearly the stronger of the two)
Righty's will always side with the strong against the weak.
The only way this position makes any sense is to ignore the blatant hypocrisy and overlook the irony.
Please, look up these two words (irony - hypocrisy). Read the definitions, look at examples, and don't respond back to me until you actually "get" the concepts.

"Irony is a disciplinarian feared only by those who do not know it, but cherished by those who do"
--Kierkegaard--

Wow, you worthless fucks even wrote an article about this? Uh Duhhhhh ! I don't go to sites where people believe those things that I believe, I go to sites knowing that newbees might visit, and try to keep them from getting their head filled with brain fucked mush.

From CRISPEE "Your little quotes remind me of the Seinfeld episode, with Donna Chang."
I prefer to think of them more as the trivia on Snapple caps.
Even if you think my post is pure bullshit, (hard to believe, I know) you might take something away from a quote pertaining to the subject matter by someone much smarter than I.
Like this...

"Politics is the entertainment branch of industry."
--Frank Zappa--


#358...

What was the apparent and intended meaning using a shaking Michael J Fox for the Stem Cell initiatives? Knowing he is a liberal and would benefit, using him wasn't to gather support he already has from dems, it was for all those against the initiative. Who by and large were republicans. Would define a contrast between the apparent and intended meaning?

Don't drink the kool-aide.


From CRISPEE "Your little quotes remind me of the Seinfeld episode, with Donna Chang."
I prefer to think of them more as the trivia on Snapple caps.
Even if you think my post is pure bullshit, (hard to believe, I know) you might take something away from a quote pertaining to the subject matter by someone much smarter than I.
Like this...


"Politics is the entertainment branch of industry."
--Frank Zappa--


Have always been a huge Zappa fan, for his music...

I don't think I called your post bullshit, I ragged on the choice of your example.

"From CRISPEE "Your little quotes remind me of the Seinfeld episode, with Donna Chang."

Watch the episode some time and you will see the irony and assumption. It would be hard to explain without seeing it.

CRISPEE..."Would define a contrast between the apparent and intended meaning?"

???????

I'd love to continue this discussion, but gotta go finish my yard. I'll be back later to convince you that I am clearly correct and you are clearly incorrect.

"The truth is rarely pure and never simple."
--Oscar Wilde--

#356 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Nice collection of Rush Limbaugh you have there. One is really old. So what. The other one probably has a spot in your hate limbaugh hall of fame.

How is this possibly a random sampling? Randomly from your "Bad Days in Limbaughville Collection"


CRISPEE..."Would define a contrast between the apparent and intended meaning?"


???????


I thought you asked me to look up irony?

Once while in college I ran across a feminist screed.

Man, Man, Man
With Your Big Dick Violence
And Your Big Dick Ways
Always Wanting to Come
Don't You want to go Anywhere?

And then I came here and discovered the writings of one of you known as the DANNI.

101st guide to winning arguments (and looking cool):

Step 1: Assert your superiority over the other person. You're the alpha dog and they're the fag. Make sure they know that.

Step 2: Again, call everyone fags. It worked in elementary school and so this is the best tried and true method of showing how awesome you are.

Step 3: Use some fancy fag words. "Societal" sounds like something that elitist fags would say. Goddamn liberals thinking they're so smart. I'm the smart one and I want recognition for it :(.

Step 4: Grab lotion and masturbate furiously to Bush photo. God I hate fags.

You could turn that argument around and ask if the liberals on this site really think they are educating anyone with their first grade rendition of popular "Huffpo" talking points. Do they really believe that any right wingers do anything other than laugh at them and consider them fools? I just don't understand the dynamic.

P.S., you guys need to get over Limbaugh, he is just an entertainer. Beck is an activist, and he is putting notches on his belt.

Ignorant ReFlubliCons Sucks, you are Right on!

You exactly described the constant Bush "saber rattling" (penis grabbing) "lead" by grunting, browing, posturing and basically acting more like primate apes while pissing on our heads and calling it all rain


"Listening" to Lush, Heck, inSannity is not the same as "processing" what they say which involves weighing their (non) qualifications vs. huge (profit) motives to correctly decide to dump all the filthy lies and paid transparent self-interested waste as putrid pundit puke

But the ditto-"heads" are like porta potties with wide open mouths which automatically accept and swallow all waste, firment the filth in a pool of hot scum and spread the toxins disguised with infectious coatings of false truths

Y'all are truly disgusting!

We are polite too and on behalf of all the Righties on DR, I would like to thank you for stopping by and enlightening us with your vast knowledge.

#326 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2009-09-20 03:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yep, you righies are just 'too polite' as evidenced by the signs held by the sore-losers/tea-baggers.

'Bury Obamacare with Kennedy' was incredibly classy.

Ooops...left the 'T' out of righties.

Commonsense, amazing how short your memory is. Those signs have nothing on the shit that was said for the previous eight years.

Just like Wilson is "polite" by interrupting our own President and falsely screaming at him to be a Liar..!??

Yet, the ReFlubliCons support and reward their new "hero" with $millions in cash and he never publically or congressionally apologized..!?

But Kanye is publically outraged, apologizes and was lambasted for interrupting a celebrity Singer??

Y'all are truly disgusting!

LOL

All the name calling and insult hurling at both parties is hysterical!!

Is there not one of you honest enough to admit that neither party is perfect and both have major problems within itself???

Good grief.

Hear hear Lisa, bring on the Libertarian controlled legislative branch!

Lisa ... or "charlie brown"

The party comparison of perfection is blatantly obvious.

Do Y'all already forget the weekly parades of ReFlubliCon indictments, scandals, arrests, "culture of corruption", growth of national debt by over $9 trillion in 8 years with nothing of value gained by America or Americans?

Democrats are the responsible adults who always have to come back and clean up, pay the bills after the "gang" (ReFlubliCons) have invaded the homestead for 8 years, destroyed and smashed everything and looted up $9 trillion in generational theft needing to be paid back for decades


Holy crap Gunner, this thread started off by attempting to point out "first grade" antics of conservatives, yet you can't manage to stumble through a sentence without some "crafty" (read childish) twisting of a word into something you think is funny.

Reflublicon
lush
heck insannity

What are you, 12?

"Hear hear Lisa, bring on the Libertarian controlled legislative branch!"

I presume the first thing they would do is dissolve themselves.

Whatever the first thing is that they would accomplish, it would be done in accordance with the Constitution, including ratification by the States.

Gunner....or Pig pen,

What is obvious is you use cartoon refences for a reason.
You have not grown up yet and have a childlike mentality.

What you fail to is the divide within this country is greatly increasing due to irrational claims like the one you just made and believing it!

A country divided against itself will not stand!

naive, new, poli aBbrentice - there is nothing "funny" or childish about the "crafty" carnage and assault against Americans and the world invoked by the power crazed party of Profit and postulic Pundits!

So you admit that even kids can tell when they are being duped (by RNC talking lies)

So why don't Banks? (and "adults")

" it would be done in accordance with the Constitution,"

Yeah, yeah, yeah. According to their particular interpretation of the Constitution at some particular time. It's nothing new to hear cultists claim to have the one and only true interpretation of whatever "sacred" text is being considered.

#372...
I see you like to regurgitate the same worthless rants of a lunatic. It made no sense at 4:05 (post #335) or three and a half hours later. When can we expect another attempt?

"Whatever the first thing is that they would accomplish, it would be done in accordance with the Constitution, including ratification by the States."

So every libertarian idea is in accord with the Constitution? That sounded more sarcastic than I meant it to be.

I just wonder. Sometimes I hear some pretty fiery ideas and criticisms based on the Constitution, and I just wonder. Where are these experts? There's this argument that the Dept of Ed is unconstitutional. I sorta get that. There's this argument that health care reform is unconstitutional. I don't get that.

I like Ron Paul's "no national ID cards" line. I don't like what I see in quotes relating to race and sex and sexuality.

I'd like to see more parties join the, um, party. More voices would seem to be good. But some argue that means even less would get done.

Ultimately, I think we all are poorly served by the two-party system and the idea that people are either one or the other. I hold some views that some of the lefties on this site would call downright conservative, but then most of the self-declared conservatives here would probably be angered by my stance on ... oh, health care, and the Pledge of Allegiance.

Y'all ditto-"heads" prove to grasp onto the only strategy when being whoooped on that Lush has taught you

- Always, always, always attach the messenger and ignore the message with tons of Lush's hillbilly heroin crack pipe "smoke screens" of lies

Is that really all y'all can ever do is attack the messenger and ignore the proven facts and substance?

And you have the nerve to call anyone else Childish??

Lisa, what did you mean by cartoon references? What did I miss?


Gunner....or Pig pen,

What is obvious is you use cartoon refences for a reason. ...

#383 | Posted by Lisa at 2009-09-20 08:07 PM


Good Grief!

What did I miss?

#389 | Posted by pragmatist at 2009-09-20 08:12 PM


Sufferin succotash you missed the profit and postulic pundits...(In my best Daffy Duck voice)

What is a postulic pundit BTW...

Oh Gunner, Gunner, Gunnerm...how uninformed you are and how foolish you look when you shoot your mouth off before you make sure your brains are loaded!!

The last time I had listened to Rush was in the late 80's. I don't care for him. He makes as many ridiculous statements as you do.

I don't belong to either party and most people here call me a liberal...which they too would be wrong.

You are not a messenger. A messenger brings forth newsworthy information.

You bring forth immature rantings.

Prag:

Junior called me Charlie Brown.

- Always, always, always attach the messenger and ignore the message with tons of Lush's hillbilly heroin crack pipe "smoke screens" of lies


Is that really all y'all can ever do is attack the messenger and ignore the proven facts and substance?


And you have the nerve to call anyone else Childish??

You are right Gunner. That is an isult to a child. How about young enough to eat for free? Young enough to get in free? Or maybe, "are you tall enough for this ride?"

Lisa Dearest,

as far as political points, you got old-fashioned spanked red and were never called a Lush bonger.

Hows the breeze feel with your panties around your ankles?

Junior sweetie???

You are not man enough to spank me red or any primary color for that matter.

You refered to the childish comment I made to you in the same post you made your claims about Rush listeners.

On this site, we address who we are speaking to unlike the Disney websites I am sure you frequent, so in the future you might want to remember that.

Now....run along honey. Mommy has other things to do.

I found it by accident, while looking for Drudgereport.com. I'm sure rcade named it as such to get the hits from google. I stay to get a different point of view, and to insult others...

Hey Rode. Missed ya.
Rode and I went to Jr High together.

Sup Zat...

Hows that watermelon patch coming along??? Good fer hog hunting too...Careful Zat, I do my best not to be too popular with the pant pisser's on this blog. They may come after you...

Rode says he does his best not to be too popular... Under some other name, Rode? I've not seen your name before. You been absent?

Hey, Lisa. Thanks for the clarity. And Gunner, some jokes just don't work in pure text format. Postulic sounds cool, but Daffy? Well, hrm, okay.

Though sometimes on this site I have wanted my illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator.

"They may come after you..."

I'm soooo afraid.

Sign about 1/4 mile from the house:

IF
YOU CAN READ THIS
YOU'RE IN RANGE

I post at this site because I have been fascinated by the liberal mind - which seems to disregard all facts and logic.

Until I started reading this blog site I never could understand why people like Carter got elected, how Kennedy stayed in office, how the ACLU got members. I just could not fathom that there were people out there that believed the dribble that the left puts out.

But here they are! I started posting with the belief that just by posting common articles that are on the web, using standard logical arguments and using basic science that surely you would see the error of your ways.

If I post on a right wing web site - they all agree with basic logic. What is the fun in that?

Posting here makes me exersize my mind. It challenges my opinions - sometimes.

Most of the time I get the standard personal attack with little or no rational thought. Which is what I have come to expect - because that is the type of mind that it takes to believe in liberalism

It is the brilliant conservative thinkers like Foshaffer that brought eight years of GWB. And he thinks liberals need to see the error of their ways? LOL. Need I say more?

Zat says, "Sign about 1/4 mile from the house"

Is that all? The National Match competition has 1,000 yard contests, and using iron sites, too!

The 3,000 yard range is behind the house, dimwit.
I'm not a thousand yards from the road.

i179.photobucket.com

"The National Match competition has 1,000 yard contests, and using iron sites, too!"

Yup.

A good friend of mine is the current DCM M1 Garand national champion.

www.qrz.com

You may now kiss my entire ass.

lol. zat will give them a running start too!

prag

check the senority numbers mr 840! just ask lisa..

"because that is the type of mind that it takes to believe in liberalism"

Funny 'cause this is exactly how I feel about some of the so-called conservatives on this site. Even funnier is that sometimes ya can't tell the trolls from the serious thinkers. Ain't the Internet grand?

"Is that all?"

That's how far my house is from the road.

i179.photobucket.com

In the trees on the right.

best thread ever

Ask Lisa what??

Please don't make me read up this big thread!! Lol

Well, I'm such a stupid libtard I can't figure out this seniority thing. I just wondered if 840 referred to Rode or to me.

Zat gets excited, "In the trees on the right."

Who cares!?! Your 1/4 mile shot is a piece of cake, but your 3000 yard shot is in your dreams with iron sites ...

Prag:

What is so darn important about seniority??

I'm a woman for heavens sake...the higher a number is where "seniority" is concerned the less happy I am!!!!

:)

" in your dreams "

Artillery shooters speak of groups in feet at ranges of miles.

The best snipers today are from Canada.

My dreams are fine, loser.

The guy who got me into the Austin Rifle Club was NATO champion in High Power rifle.

He runs the High Power rifle match now.

Zat packs artillery, "Artillery shooters speak of groups in feet at ranges of miles."

You're a braggart, just like Tosser ... they speak in meters, dimwit ...

Wolf Blitzer on Jeopardy = Right Wingers on Drudge!!!

Because most on the left/right are non thinking idiot moron robots. Those that still think for themselves are the last hope for Our Country.

For people that still think for themselves...

en.wikipedia.org

Commonsense, amazing how short your memory is. Those signs have nothing on the shit that was said for the previous eight years.

#375 | Posted by brentrice1 at 2009-09-20 07:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Please point to an OFFICIALLY produced sign that referenced the glee of a recently deceased politician.

"What is so darn important about seniority??"

Nothing, really. I was just curious. He brought up a number... (shrug)

"For people that still think for themselves...
en.wikipedia.org"

What's yer point? Any system needs bureaucracy--somebody has to do the work. One can talk about the size of a bureaucracy, and its efficiency, and we should, but it's pretty much impossible to go without.

Saw a great advertisement on CNN this weekend slamming FOX News for the bogus coverage of the so-called Naval Incident on 9/11 in DC.

FOX NEWS - DISTORTING NOT REPORTING!!

Yes people that just about sums up the entire issue of rightwing media manipulation in ONE SENTENCE!

WHY do so many Right-Wingers visit a Left Leaning Blog? Could it be because they need access to more ACCURATE information than they get from their usual wingnut sources?!?

Not that they'd ever admit it, Monstman. ; )

But anyway, Fox and its supporters assert with great frequency that it's the leftwing media that manipulates. My response is that the real bias is corporate. Fox was created because someone (his initials are Rupert Murdoch) believed it would _sell_. And it does. Very well. None of these news outlets do real or complete news (see http://
www.projectcensored.org, for starters). Almost no one does real investigative reporting anymore, at least not on easily available television channels, maybe on cable. As Amy Goodman said, We are the fourth estate, not for the state!

Without a doubt liberals say the funniest things.

I would have to say the biggest difference between Conservatives and Liberals is Conservatives know when they are lying.

Dude, #425 was almost funny! Good for you! : )~

Can you be lying if you don't know you're lying? Wouldn't that just be being wrong? Hm. Is Mystery clever enough to have meant that?

Good luck explaining that one to the dead in Bush's War of Choice.

Could it be because they need access to more ACCURATE information than they get from their usual wingnut sources?!?

Of course. Seeing as most threads are taken from Huffington, The Nation, Salon... Those ACCURATE and unbias outlets?

Crispee - Name three "unbiased" sources of news.


Wolf Blitzer on Jeopardy = Right Wingers on Drudge!!!

#417 | Posted by AntiCadi

Ironic, most right wingers think Wolf is one of yours.

It's all part of a vast right wing conspiracy. I'd tell you more about it, but have to wait until the right moment.

You could always check out DU.

I found it by accident, while looking for Drudgereport.com. I'm sure rcade named it as such to get the hits from google.

The Drudge Retort began as a parody. We thought it would be fun to spoof the over-the-top reporting of Matt Drudge during the Clinton years, and it was.

In 2004, when people kept coming around in spite of no new content for months and months, it became a social news site.

You could always check out DU.

#431 | Posted by somoco at 2009-09-21 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where?

"it became a social news site."

And thank you for that. I've learned some stuff, though I also must admit I'm frikkin' addicted. Gr.

Rcade the pusher man. God damn... God damn...

Ironic, most right wingers think Wolf is one of yours.

#430 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2009-09-21 11:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's because most right wingers think the world is out to get them.

The money's good.

Aflac

You're a braggart, just like Tosser


Tadpole... what have I done now?

Tosser wonders, "... what have I done now?"

It is your habit, and leads the inference that you are insecure in the listener.

Not to worry, though, you can stop bragging on yourself, if you try ...

Where?

#433 | POSTED BY BETELG AT 2009-09-21 01:04 PM | REPLY | FLAG
Democratic Underground

It is your habit, and leads the inference that you are insecure in the listener.


What???

Tadpole.... what nerve of yours did I step on last time we met? Refresh my memory, would you?

Democratic Underground

#439 | Posted by somoco at 2009-09-21 02:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Is that, like, a big deal to Democrats? Is that the Democratic hive, according to whatever the fuck you rely on for your information?


Ironic, most right wingers think Wolf is one of yours.


#430 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2009-09-21 11:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's because most right wingers think the world is out to get them.

#435 | Posted by BetelG


No, not all the world just PRAVDA & The various US News Organisations that function as the unofficial arm of the Central Committee of the Democratic Party.

"... The various US News Organisations that function as the unofficial arm of the Central Committee of the Democratic Party."

Let's just dissolve the union. It was a good try in 1776, but idiocies like that are living proof that the idiots have prevailed. The news organizations are corporate entities programmed to be cash cows for their corporate bosses. herm

The news organizations are corporate entities programmed to be cash cows for their corporate bosses. herm

This is true, but they all live in the same neighborhood. The "corporate bosses" are equally interested in controlling politicians and the populace.

Naturally they will use the media to achieve both goals.

Maybe it's a troll thing. Maybe they live for the brief moment when they actually say something so stupid or so offensive that they actually manage to offend a left-winger. If that is the case, - what a pathetic existence that is.

#1 | Posted by moder8

Figures you'd come up with something like that. The real reason, at least in my case, is what fun is it to be at a blog where everyone agrees with you? That's pretty much like a circle jerk. You know, the kind you lefties have here every day.

It is for want of a different point of view to debate with or argue with why most of us, I presume, come here. I don't listen to any radio show hosts or watch cable news so I get my daily news entertainment this way. There are several reasons why we come to places like this, and you missed wildly on your guess, moder8.

One more thing. I have never even visited a right wing blog. The only blogs I've ever actually read and posted on leaned to the left. What's the fun in having everyone patting each other on the back and saying, "I agree with you"?

The better question would be: How do leftwing sheep flock here for their talking points while accusing anyone right of center of spewing talking points?
You fruitcakes come here to have your minority opinions bolstered so that you feel like less of a societal outcast. It's your modern day version of the "Drama Club" or "Home Ec" when you were in High School.

#22 | Posted by 101Chairborne

That deserved to be said again. Oh, how true it is.

Is that, like, a big deal to Democrats? Is that the Democratic hive, according to whatever the fuck you rely on for your information?

#441 | POSTED BY BETELG AT 2009-09-21 02:23 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

It is a big deal to Democrats, and it makes the liberals in here seem like centrists. I don't rely on a thing I see there, and have only seen it a couple of times (me being a conservative and all).

I was inviting the poster of this article to go to DU if he doesn't like conservatives. All conservatives are either non-existent, or their messages are blocked there.

Are all of you that desperate to troll?

#46 | Posted by moder8

This shows just what kind of ignorant person you really are, moder8. It isn't trolling when you are discussing issues with people who disagree with you. There are certain people who troll here and they don't just come from the right. Most of us don't troll and would rather argue points. But I don't suppose you would understand that with the way your perception of the question of why righties come here is.

One more thing. I have never even visited a right wing blog. The only blogs I've ever actually read and posted on leaned to the left. What's the fun in having everyone patting each other on the back and saying, "I agree with you"?

#446 | Posted by everlong at 2009-09-21 04:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't know, but there are plenty of conservative blogs where the users do exactly that. To say nothing of Rush & the Dittoheads. Why do they call themselves that if it's not back-patting and agreement?

FOX's refusal to allow leftwing viewpoints be honestly debated on their airwaves-Moder8

FOXNEWS has more left wing debaters on its programming than any other network. You may not like that they sometimes get cut off but righties get cut off too. It is your perception that FOXNEWS doesn't allow fair and equal access to the left when in fact they do. Far more than MSNBC allows for right wingers. Far more. And left wing viewpoints are fairly debated on FOX. It just gets you in a tizzy when one of them gets cut off because they have rambled on long enough and their point had been made. The left gets to make its points all the time on FOX.

Have you ever watched Chris Matthews debate a right winger? He cuts them off mid sentence all the time. And Olbermann doesn't even have them on. He wouldn't know how to handle it if he did have them on. He's much better at insulting them from afar and without them being given a chance to reply.

But what I don't understand are the right wingers who hang out here *and* express constant contempt for how much they hate the place. It's like going to the same diner day after day and complaining about the food.-Rcade

Who does that? You may see a jab thrown every once in a while, but I don't see the right showing contempt for this place on a frequent basis. Maybe you're thinking of the insults they sling at other posters, but insults towards the site itself are few and far between.

FOXNEWS has more left wing debaters on its programming than any other network. You may not like that they sometimes get cut off but righties get cut off too. It is your perception that FOXNEWS doesn't allow fair and equal access to the left when in fact they do. Far more than MSNBC allows for right wingers. Far more. And left wing viewpoints are fairly debated on FOX. It just gets you in a tizzy when one of them gets cut off because they have rambled on long enough and their point had been made. The left gets to make its points all the time on FOX.

#451 | Posted by everlong at 2009-09-21 05:14 PM | Reply |

You seem to think Foxnews is a public access channel. They are not.

You seem to think Foxnews is a public access channel. They are not.

#453 | Posted by KnightHawk


Please tell me what you read that gave you such a wrong impression. I never asserted nor implied that they were public access yet you somehow seem to think that I believe they are.

But just for the sake of argument, where would you like to draw the new Mason-Dixon line?


Gulf Coast? We need another Sherman to keep the inbreds in line.


Maybe it's a troll thing. Maybe they live for the brief moment when they actually say something so stupid or so offensive that they actually manage to offend a left-winger. If that is the case, - what a pathetic existence that is.

#1 | Posted by moder8

How do you explain Buffalo Bob in that far fetched assumption?

Just to say, ModerH8 is one of THE most hateful people on this site.

Go start your own blog you hateful fuck.

i'm sure it's way past due, and totally pointless, but i'll respond to bob. my original shit is bold his is italics.

that's ridiculous, bob
each state is already free to decide its own level of socialism versus capitalism.

What country do YOU live in. Certainly not America. If the Federal government makes a law---ALL the States MUST follow it.

states have their own constitutions and their own budgets, elect their own leaders, provide their own services at the local level. states can have statewide healthcare plans, or incorporate publically-funded systems (public works, ems, fire, police, libraries, etc.). asking (rhetorically) what country i live in to prove some point of which i'm not aware is ridiculous. learn to argue.

that's what has made it work so far.

What has made it work so far, is common goals---that is no longer true

americans still have common goals - work as little as possible and get paid the most amount of money possible for doing it.

states shouldn't have to be in blocs.

Shoulda would coulda---facts are states ARE in blocks. You must live in an alternate reality---when was the last time Alabama voted for a liberal--how about Georgia? Mississippi? Should I go on?

are you counting local elections or just gubernatorial? i count hundreds of state and county democrats, greens, and libertarians in all those states. you've named three of the states that DO tend to vote for conservative candidates. my original problem with your post suggesting we need two countries doesn't take into account that the country is not divided the same way it was before the civil war. we'd need 5 countries, to do it right: 1) new england, 2) the west coast states, 3) detroit/chicagoland area or the great lakes states, 4) texas, and 5) everywhere else. but even in georgia, you'll find a hotbed of liberalism in atlanta, same with austin, texas. secession or a breakup of the states doesn't solve anything.

the real problem with your theory is that it IS a different world now after 9/11.

No it isn't---that is just the brainwashing put put by the government factory---911 was nothing but a criminal act perpetrated on a larger scale than most--get the perps---put them in jail--case closed.

the perps are dead. hence, suicide attacks. the validity of the govt story of 9/11 is a separate issue.

another civil war we'll be so busy fighting and just having our attention diverted, and another terrorist attack or invasion happens.

I am trying to PREVENT another Cuivil War, by suggesting a political split rather than a blood fued like the last time. You have jumped to another wrong conclusion. I would say that is a frequent occurance in your life.

you see a smudge on a photograph and think it's smokestacks on the moon, but i jump to wrong conclusions. right... where'd i put that car antennae? (flick, flick, thwap!)

what then? china invades the south or the north and we're right back in the same boat, like we were before the whole bullshit started.

First--I doubt the Chinese could transport an army across the ocean without being sunk before they got out of their harbor--second, the split countries would still be great allies--we would just pursue different political agendas---one libveral--ne conservative--same Constitution.

you doubt? give it another 10 years. besides, my claim was that we'll be too BUSY to catch them invading, which they wouldn't have to do anyway. all they'd have to do to cripple our country or countries is cash out all the bonds they've issued to us over the years.
and, if all the state-blocs had the same constitution, wtf is the point of breaking up to begin with? you use flawed logic to explain how this break-up would be so easy and beneficial when the act of the breaking up itself would cause panic, confusion, and undoubtedly riots and loss of life. it;s not as easy as you might think. when was the last time you spoke to someone who lived through the breakup of yugoslavia? think that was orderly and peaceful?

we don't need two countries. we need to be one country again!

LOL how is THAT going to happen? Tell it to all the LIBTARD haters. Are you going to sudenl;y embrace gay marriage and abortion rights? How about Universal Health Care? Welfare? Who do you ecpect to CHANGE? That ship has sailed. One need only read the hate Americans share for each other to see the reality of a country that is already two countries.

the champions of the broken status quo (at present, the GOP) don't need to embrace gay marriage. but they may have to tolerate it just they did voting rights acts for women and blacks in olden days. they don't have to embrace abortion rights, but they do have to tolerate it like many do. don't take so much of the venom spewed on here as the reality of political discourse in this country. most people don't care about those issues. they care more about kanye west and taylor swift than they do about abortion rights. people lie to pollsters all the time and say they care because they know they should. even if conservatives don't embrace universal healthcare, its supporters know all too well that once it's up and running and 10 years in, no politician speaking out against it will stand a chance in an election. that's why the GOP is holding out their offensive against it for so long, because it's all they got. republicans speaking out against welfare usually get trounced in gubernatorial and national elections, same as speaking out against illegal immigration or immigrant rights. it's a campaign killer. i do expect this whole idiotic situation to change, because it has to. the politicians on the wrong side of history (like the dixiecrats or whigs before them) will eventually be tossed out, as is customary when the winds change. right now the GOP is marginalized, and they're doing whatever they can to stay in the public consciousness. but there are people who vote democrat 100% of the time that don't believe in gay marriage (only civil unions, which is bs) or universal healthcare. that's what makes running campaigns on these social issues so immensely difficult. but acting as if you (and only you) can draw lines on a map that somehow coincide with how people feel about a wide range of social issues is not only dangerous, but dumb.

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