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"If I had stayed in Ohio, I wouldn't be alive. In 150 generations in family, no one has known Jesus. I am the first -- imagine the honor in killing me? There is great honor in that, because if they love Allah more than me, they have to do it. It's in the Koran. I'm fighting for my life. You guys don't understand. ... I want to worship Jesus freely, that's what I want. I don't want to die."

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Watch for zero to no attention paid her by the civil libertarians in America.

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


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Rifqa should be concentrating on her high school years instead of worrying about being killed because she converted to Christianity.

How sad.

But great will be her reward!

Watch for zero to no attention

Watch for this thread to produce the usual strawman arguments in yet another attempt to prove that Obama is a Muslim communist fascist.

Obama is a Muslim communist fascist who was born in Kenya.

There, fixed that for you.

Even worse, Obama is from Chicago.

This is sad if true. The having to run for her life part. She is free to do as she pleases.

However.

No one has know jesus?

Jesus is extremely important in islam.

The difference is we don't have "original sin"

We don't need saving in the sense that christians do.

And we don't believe he is divine, ie the only begotten son of God.

We do have the virgin birth. We attribute miracles that even the bible doesn't have to him. His name is mentioned more then any other prophet. His mother has a chapter named after her.

Her parents sound like dumb hicks who if they knew Islam would have taught her islam better. They probably haven't read the koran on their own and have let others tell them what islam is.

she's gone backwards not forwards.

She went from a faith with a concept of an abstract God whose being is outside the realm of understanding of the human mind. Ie makes the universe's size look like a grain of sand in comparison to God's size and complexity to a simple Man God formula.

Adam sinned and all men are born sinners in the bible. Without the cruci-fiction even babies go to hell?

Original sin makes God a hateful entity and his Man God the savior.

One thing I admit. Christians have found to love better then muslims in the modern era. Especially the last 30 years or so.

But that is not a religious thing as far as I can see but a cultural thing brought on by an extremely tortured post inquisition culture.

Islam never had an inquisition like mentality until recently and I hope we learn that love, sooner then later.

It didn't stop britain from chemically castrating alan turing from being gay in the modern era.

Its also funny that american christians have learned more love since the 60's and the culture of permiscuous love that permeated the american culture.

I know ya guys hate to hear it but there are churches all over muslim countries like pakistan.

The churches are more fabulous then the mosques I've seen in the usa.


I bet this girl in college or after will run from all religion and become athiest or agnostic.


Probably for the better.

Its also funny that american christians have learned more love since the 60's...

You can thank the dirty godless hippies for that. And some very freaky sugar cubes.

"dirty godless hippies"

Dirty? Nonsense!

We like to take baths together.

#2 | Posted by member2586


Look stupid, let me explain it to you.

Christianity today does not preach the killing of anybody.They preach love and obedience to Gods word.

All over the muslim world they are preaching and carrying out acts of violence in the name of islam.They preach hate.
Fathers killing daughters,sunni killing shiites,rape,murder torture,beheading,on and on

How stupid are you?

rwd

I bet this girl in college or after will run from all religion and become athiest or agnostic.


Probably for the better.

#9 | Posted by klifferd

Why is that stupid? Where in your post do you explain why she thinks like that,or is that something you just made up.

Does she wear her fucking religion on her shoulder,or in her heart?

rwd

Klifferd is correct in noting the honored place Jesus and Mary have in Islam.
Fatima is also honored in Islam (but for some reason not found in Christian tradition) and it amazes me the most important Marian apparition with startlingly true predictions happened at a village called Fatima in Portugal. The same weaknesses of the Western and Christian world predicted there (Fatima, Por.) are the ones Islamics find most repelling about Western Civilization now. Wahabists talked about not politics, but our morals when rejecting us as an enemy.
Something to think about....

But I echo the same concerns my Pope has about Islamic countries: reciprocity is needed. If Mosques can be built here and religious freedom is in law, it must be so in Moslem countries or we will always be at odds. There can not be less than an even playing field.
I understand Moslem sensitivities at the same time, but Europe and America allow Moslems far more freedom than their Islamic countries are willing to offer Christians, agnostics or even NY Mets fans.

P.S. Wipe the filthy infidel NY Mets fans off the face of the earth and God WILL reward you!

And we don't believe he is divine, ie the only begotten son of God.
#7 | Posted by klifferd


Naa..klifferd has it wrong and it is the principle mistake the christian bashers make.

God is Jesus and Jesus is God.

The Hebrew and Christian religion parallel each other until Jesus came along.
Jesus never preached hate or violence only love and it is the teaching you will find in Evangelical churches today.
Islam on the other hand is seen as a hateful religion because hate and intolerance is preached.
It is particularly galling to me mainstream islamic clerics do not condemn islamic violence.
We have clowns like tosser who come on here and whine on about how virtuous islam is but out of the other side of his mouth snicker about the atrocities committed by islamic terrorists against Americans.
As far as i'm concerned at this point is, there is no innocent muslims and islam is a corrupt religion.
It has changed from the first 15 minutes after mohammed died and morphed into what we are experiencing today,a foul perverted shell of a once respectable religion.


rwd


God does not exist. Jesus was the equivalent of David Koresh.

The Hebrew and Christian religion parallel each other until Jesus came along.
...........

referring to the old testament.

Christianity didn't come along until some time after the death of Jesus.

#18 | Posted by jackass

Who really cares about what you say?
I know I don't.


rwd

rwd your family doesn't even care what you say. You might as well be talking to a wall here. I only responded to point out your stupidity.

your family doesn't even care what you say

Funny you were reading my mind.

Pointing out my stupidity I think should be your point.

But again, you have no point jackass.

rwd

God does not exist. Jesus was the equivalent of David Koresh.

#18 | Posted by jackass

Actually he does have a point and a very good one.
Luckily, people in the US can "not" agree with Middle Eastern Abrahamic views of the world.
This fact alone makes the US a great nation.

The bible was written by men, claiming to have heard from God. A giant, holy hand didn't pop out of the sky and write a book.
You have put your faith (scary word) in men who "claim" to have heard from God.

Men.

In a court of law this is called hearsay.

"The bible was written by men, claiming to have heard from God. A giant, holy hand didn't pop out of the sky and write a book.
You have put your faith (scary word) in men who "claim" to have heard from God.
Men.
In a court of law this is called hearsay."

Very true, Sluggo! It is hearsay.
Otherwise we would all be convicted in both senses of that word: condemned and convinced. Think about the nuance.
Now be fair and look at the biblical prophecies made.
Go even farther and check the Catholic Fatima prophecies.
See anything? Fatima is especially interesting because the socialists and agnostics came out in force to "debunk" the children and instead witnessed the miracle of the sun. The enemies of my faith were made the witnesses.

Christianity didn't come along until some time after the death of Jesus.

#19 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2009-09-13 09:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

48 days, to be exact. Pentecost was 50 days after Passover.

"Pentecost was 50 days after Passover"

Vernon has obviously set his calculator on "stun".

(RWD) We have clowns like tosser who come on here and whine on about how virtuous islam is but out of the other side of his mouth snicker about the atrocities committed by islamic terrorists against Americans.


Please don't lie about what I might or might not have said.


(Diablo) but Europe and America allow Moslems far more freedom than their Islamic countries are willing to offer Christians


Please don't lie. Period.

All over the muslim world they are preaching and carrying out acts of violence in the name of islam.They preach hate.
Fathers killing daughters,sunni killing shiites,rape,murder torture,beheading,on and on


Oh pshaw...

I can easily look up ten times more incidents of stupidity and cruelty in the US alone.

On the whole, ordinary Muslims have their act together far better than American-"Christians".

I put "Christian" in quotes because, truth be told, Americans aren't real Christians anymore since they have nothing in common with the teachings of Jesus.

Islam on the other hand is seen as a hateful religion because hate and intolerance is preached.


We are taught to keep an eye on the infidels... the kaffirs... never know what they might do next.

I had no idea, you would would feel that as "hate". LOL

Diablo, I couldn't give fuck about a dumb Egyptian bitch who doesn't have the sense to keep her God delusions to herself. Considering how Islamic Jiihad, Ayman Al Zawahiri, and Sayyid Al-Qutb are all Egyptian, and keeping in mind how much Ancient Egyptians just LOVED coming up with new gods, my analysis is that the people of the Nile have serious mental issues, what with them being dependent on only one river alon for their entire sustenance. That makes them loopy and that explains the dumb egyptian bitch you're calling the waaaambulance over.

YS1 Elevates the level of discussion....

"Please don't lie. Period."

Don't just post and run, Tosser. Show us where the alleged lie is. I wrote Christian countries afford Moslems far more freedoms than Moslem countries allow Christians. That is manifestly true.
Or prove it otherwise.

That is manifestly true.

I believe that to be a lie. Sorry.


Or prove it otherwise.


I don't have to prove anything. You pulled a "fact" out of your ass and I pulled one out of mine.

All I have to do is create "reasonable doubt". LOL

Since Egypt was mentioned, I should remind you that most of the world's Coptic Christians live in Egypt... with their Pope.

See what I mean?

Americans just think everyone is "Saudi Arabia". LOL

Even there, Americans working there are free to do whatever.

Elevates the level of discussion

Thank You.

When it comes to Egyptians and religion - the less said the bettter.

Moving On...

I wrote Christian countries afford Moslems far more freedoms


The ones which are most free with most rights, are not "Christian countries".

They are known as "Democratic countries".... they are never theocracies. LOL

You are only playing with labels.

I am sure Muslims will no right to build a mosque in a theocratic Christian country... like the Vatican.

Coptic Christians

A very rare sect. Indicates Egyptians like to "shop" around when it comes to their Gods.

Ever played Age of Empires?

Or better, Age of Mythology.

The Egyptians are freaky deaky when it comes to the of theology.

A very rare sect.


Yes, but they ARE Christians.


The Egyptians are freaky deaky when it comes to the of theology.


I know, I know.... all of this political-Islam... this Salafist rubbish.... came from Egypt, don't forget.

Still, it is a country I would like to see one day.

"Americans just think everyone is "Saudi Arabia". LOL"

Which does not address the fact Saudi Arabia is exactly the kind of intolerant place I mean. (Iran, Pakistan, Yemen......)

A very rare sect. Indicates Egyptians like to "shop" around when it comes to their Gods.

Egyptians aren't the only ones. Religions evolve, and a fallen civilization's deities usually take on a role in a rising civilization's religion.

this Salafist rubbish.... came from Egypt

Unfortunately it's most "in style" in Saudi Arabia, and they have us by the balls. Don't expect the US to address the heart of the matter when that heart is supplying us with oil by the shitload.

We are taught to keep an eye on the infidels... the kaffirs... never know what they might do next.

You don't need to be a muslim, christian, or anything to be a decent person. You just need to be a decent person.

You're best served by keeping your eye on the scumbags, regardless of the god(s) they claim to believe in.

Jesus never preached hate or violence only love and it is the teaching you will find in Evangelical churches today.
Islam on the other hand is seen as a hateful religion because hate and intolerance is preached.

So some of the clerics of both religions preach hate, but only Islam is hateful? Methinks I smell a double standard.

It is particularly galling to me mainstream islamic clerics do not condemn islamic violence.

Many do. That doesn't make for a juicy story, so you're going to see the "death to (noun)" crowd on TV a lot more. It's the same reason that Christian nutcases make better news pieces than the Christians who live out their religion's values of love, humanitarianism, and social justice.

came from Egypt

Actually, Salafi-ism is the Muslim Brotherhood, and if an election would be held in Egypt they would win. The Egyptian government is too based on 20th Century principles to truly apply Salafism.


in style

So its actually more in style in Egypt. In Saudi Arabia, its hardwired into the rise of the government itself. BTW its Wahhabism in Saudi. THEY are actually a religious revival wedded to a monarchy. Using religious rules is hardwired into the system. The poor Saudis don't have a choice.


to address the heart of the matter when that heart is supplying us with oil by the shitload

That part is right Z.H. Its got to be ordinary Saudis who will have to address their internal system. The Iranians (God Bless Them) have set the right example.

Member -- a noteworthy point. But perhaps "SCALE" of the threat needs to be addressed in addition to the words of the threat.

"Kafir murder", murder of apostates, and honor murder are all part of extreme Shariah -- which is gaining a foothold in the West as well as sinking its roots deeper in the backwaters of the Muslim world. How many Jews are there in the world? maybe 60 million if one were very optimistic. How many Muslims are there in the world? Probably 20x to 30x as many, and with a birthrate off the scales, especially in those countries where formal education for girls is the worst and where forced child marriages are rampant, that ratio is sure to grow exponentially over the next century.

So, maybe a few Jews believe in the historic record of Chronicles and consider it instructive -- most rabbis don't, and most believing jews and Christians don't, either. But for most of the illiterati in the Muslim world, the Quran is considered "instruction", not narrative. That is where the danger lies.

intolerant place I mean. (Iran, Pakistan, Yemen......)


Lies and more lies.

Pakistan is not a theocracy, it's a democracy.

the Quran is considered "instruction"


Nothing at all wrong with that.

Anyone after a little reading, who says Islam and Christianity shows their thorough ignorance.

member2586,
You fail to note that what is in view is a reaction against the worship of Pagan gods whose worship demanded human/child sacrifice.

But I see that you are not interested in condemning them but only the Jews!

You ignore the child murderers but condemn those who sought to do something about it.

Also, be aware that evilbible.com has been discredited:

atheismisdead.blogspot.com

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