"The scripture clearly does not advocate a global flood, but rather a universal flood, in that all mankind besides a few died inthe flood. It does not have to be the whole world."
The scripture clearly states that the tops of mountains including Ararat where teh supposed ark was parked, but never found, became visible on teh 10th day......Mt. Ararat is over 16,000' tall. One cannot have a local flood that covers ararat without it be a global event. Anyway, ararat has not been covered in water, no where in it's geological record does it show submergence after it geological rose to form a mountain chain.
The ark should be easy to find parked on teh top of ararat like that, except it's not there. And that's just one of the so-called arks they can't seem to find.
Yes, science sucks. It forces people with their head in the sand to continue to evade the truths that face them everyday.
LM
#337 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel
First of all. It does not have to cover the mountains of Ararat. You are looking at it in the English translation. The word used for Mountains in the Hebrew is also the word used for hills.
The Bible states that the ark came to rest in the mountains of Ararat, not on Mount Ararat. The mountains of Ararat are a big area. It could mean the hills of Ararat as well. However, nowehere does it state that it came to land on top of the highest mountain of Ararat.
It also states that land was already uncovered befofore the ark came to rest. However the dove could not find a place to land.
It came back with an olive branch. Olive "trees" can only grow up to a certain altitude.
I think you are failing to look at the cultural perspective of the information.
Also Buffalo,
I am using universal in terms of mankind. Which is how the words are often used in the Hebrew and Greek. Kosmos in the Greek can meen the universe, or it can mean Mankind in general. I am speaking of the Universality of Mankind being destroyed in a localized flood.
Again, I expect more from you. Look into what you are saying before you state it please. Don't just go on the interpretation you have in front of you, or the cultural context you have in front of you.
NO wonder so many get so much about the scriputure wrong. It was not written in English in America, it was written in Hebrew and Greek in their respective areas.
Don't forget that.
Also, Truthhurts,
You are correct. If there is a God, then he would decide what is Good and what is Evil. Therefore, from our perspective we see good and evil, from his perspective he will see the consequences of our actions. Everything can be set up for the good of those in question, however they may see it as evil because it appears not to benefit them at the current time.
Many people here like to play games as if they are stupid when in truth they know what they are saying is false, yet propogate it just to fool the ignorant.
If you want to discuss the flood or anything else biblically that you question, and you want to do it rationally and without this emotional response, get serious e-mail me
mm814@eagle.pbu.edu
I'll talk about it in more detail there.
Thanks.
