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Sen. Edward Moore Kennedy, the youngest Kennedy brother who was left to head the family's political dynasty after his brothers President John F. Kennedy and Sen. Robert F. Kennedy were assassinated, has died at age 77.

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Sad day. Sen. Kennedy accomplished a lot for this country in the many decades he was in public service. I'm glad he was around for one last push to get a Democrat into the White House. His endorsement, and that of his niece Caroline, played an important role in Obama's primary victory.

I don't think he will be seeing Mary Jo.

Teddy was the Shemp of the Kennedy brothers. He wasn't Moe, he wasn't Curly. He was Shemp.

I'm throwing back a higball in memeory of Teddy poo.

All I need is a bridge, a lawyer, and a pregnant rape victim.

The Lion sleeps tonight.

RIP Mr K.

Watching two of my brothers be assassinated would turn me into an alcoholic too.

RIP, teddy. say hi to your brothers for me. we all miss him and jack down here. :(
i may not have been born yet when either was assassinated, but that doesn't mean i can't feel what we lost.

How about knowing your dad kidnapped your sister, to secretly lobotomize her?

Gotta love Camelrot.

The last evil of Camelrot is Hussein

I like how RCade used my post and Rex's headline.

Synergy!

Essentially irrelevant, but is about a bridge and a dead chick.

For extra..........flava..........
....

I suspect we'll see the true colors of many hearts on this thread.

www.youtube.com

'Ode to Mary Joe', by Teddy Kennedy

What a guy.

Click the link Timex, there is a 'true heart'

'they were reflected in the inconlusive, inexplicable, and bizarre statements I made that day.'

Teddy

"Dude, Where's My Car?"

If every 77 year old life were judged on the drunkest night of their life I'd bet a lot of snarks wouldn't feel so puffed up.

Yes, he was drunk one night, and yes a young woman died. However, what he did with his life when he could have kicked back and sailed his life away on a trust fund was go into public service and fight for things that even the reddest Republican Southerners benefit from.

So everyone is allowed one unrepentant vehicular manslaughter in life?

Of course, Teddy said he was too tired from the rushing current, even though pictures of the river the next day showed a stagnent non flowing river.

Nice.

I wouldn't wish this kind of death on anybody unlike all the hateful pricks celebrating Novaks same demise. I can't stand liberals but I can respect Teddy in that he was proud of being a liberal and never tried to act like he wasn't. He wasn't like the Three Card Monte currently living in the White House

I would rather die at age 77 from cancer then age 26 from drowning.

I can't wait for the media clusterfuck that will rain down for the next few.

I wonder if this is a set up to ditract from Husseins collapsing admintsration?

Hey I think they should go measure Martha's Vinyard for those windmills now that Teddy is gone. He was such a hypocrite of large proportions when it came to this stuff. He'd come down to Texas and say how much he liked the windmill farms and then return to Martha's Vineyard and proclaim not in my backyard when they wanted to put them in the water. So as a tribute to this SOB I think they should go ahead and mount the windmills in memory of him. Because if I have to have them in my backyard, they should have to have them too!!!!

The reason Ted had such a hard time becoming a lawyer was he couldn't pass the bar.

Lonnie

I wonder if Teddy was done in by one of those death panels that Caribou Cuntfart was squawking about.

I would rather die at age 77 from cancer then age 26 from drowning.

I have to disagree with you there. I'm 26 and I have tens of thousands of dollars of college debt that I'll be paying off for at least 15 years at the current rate. If you were to decapitate me in a meth-fueled chainsaw rampage, you might just be doing me a favor.

If you were to decapitate me in a meth-fueled chainsaw rampage, you might just be doing me a favor

Careful dude,you are on the web.Plus I think tweakers are horribly inefficient with a chainsaw.

I extend my sympathy to his family at his passing.

"So everyone is allowed one unrepentant vehicular manslaughter in life?

Of course, Teddy said he was too tired from the rushing current, even though pictures of the river the next day showed a stagnent non flowing river.

Nice.

#17 | Posted by r_zeitgeist"

Hey dumbfuck try coming up with a second reason to criticize him. You are beating this one about as badly as your father beat your mother.

Hey dumbfuck try coming up with a second reason to criticize him. You are beating this one about as badly as your father beat your mother.

#27 | Posted by furio at 2009-08-26 02:59 AM | Reply | Flag: n00b

r zeitgeist,
Surprised no Dead Kennedy's video

RIP, Ted. No time to talk politics. So somebody please shut up Pelosi, who has already (3AM EST) gone on record that they will now pass health care drawing on Ted's legacy. Despicable vulture.

Could someone please post a link to Teddy's accomplishments?

People keep saying how much he did, so post something, please.

I'm curious to see his list of accomplishments.

#27 | Posted by furio at 2009-08-26 02:59 AM | Reply | Flag: n00b

#28 | Posted by ness_gadol

--Loser with too much debt. what happened you waste time on a business degree and found out you were only qualified as a McD shift manager?

what happened you waste time on a business degree and found out you were only qualified as a McD shift manager?

Yeah, that's it.

Fucker should have died 40 years ago. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot this forum is only for saying shitty things about conservatives that have died.
Hope he rots in Hell.

I'm curious to see his list of accomplishments.


www.michaelmoore.com

I'm going to say that same thing that I said when reagan croaked: Bye you lying corporate cock sucking mafioso motherfucker.

Google, JEFFN . . . Google

Or you could be like the lizzard king on this thread who chose to mock the death of a man who was magnitudes more important in life than our resident basement dwelling alcoholic could ever dream about achieving.

RIP Senator.

"...the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

Thanks for showing how a person can travel from dizzying heights to abyssmal lows and rise up again with a committment to do better, not just for yourself but the society in which you lived. RIP.

At least he lived a full life unlike the woman he killed, Mary Jo Kopechne at Lake Chappaquiddick. Had she not been killed by Kennedy, she could have been a Senator, a mother or someone who made a difference in the world.

They are definitely going in different directions in the hereafter.

Could someone please post a link to Teddy's accomplishments?
People keep saying how much he did, so post something, please.
I'm curious to see his list of accomplishments.
#31 | Posted by JeffnDenmark

Sure, it's probably tough for an expat like yourself to keep up with the comings and goings in the US, so here's a sampling:

* Called for a national health care system in 1966 and pushed for it with an amendment to the Economic Opportunity Act.

* Sponsored the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA) in 1996.

* Sponsored the Family Opportunity Act of 2006 so states could expand Medicaid coverage to kids with special needs.

* Worked for the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) so uninsured kids in low-income families could get insurace.

* Chairman, Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee.

* Major role in such legislation as: the Immigratinon and Nationality Act (1965), National Cancer Act (1971), Federal Election Campagin Act Amendments (1974), COBRA Act (1985), Americans with Disabilities Act (1990), Ryan White AIDS Care Act (1990), Civil Rights Act (1991), Mental Health Parity Act (1996, 2008), etc., etc., etc.

At last ..... he's a good liberal dumbocrat....criminal son of a criminal bootlegger.

So everyone is allowed one unrepentant vehicular manslaughter in life?

#17 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-26 02:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

Sure. Why not?

Laura Bush killed her boyfriend with her car and you still worship her.

"Dude, Where's My Car?"

Posted by AuntieSocial


This is not your father's Oldsmobile....

At last ..... he's a good liberal dumbocrat....criminal son of a criminal bootlegger.

#41 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2009-08-26 04:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

Grunt,

Who's worse in your eye, a man who runs booze during prohibition or a man who does business with Hitler?

Who's worse in your eye, a man who runs booze during prohibition or a man who does business with Hitler?

Posted by NO COMMONSENSE


Ted did that too? Not surprised....fat phoney lib....

Uh, GreatAmerican, that was W's grandaddy, Prescott Bush who dealt with Hitler.


Uh, GreatAmerican, that was W's grandaddy, Prescott Bush who dealt with Hitler.

Posted by Timex


So what? related to the fact that Toad M Kennedy was worthless?

GA, no one really expects wingnuts to understand accomplishment. You all live in an Alice in Wonderland world where up is down and everything's backwards.

No doubt you'll go down in history more famous and accomplished than Ted Kennedy.

Timex:

Stalin, Hitler, Tojo, OBL had accomplishments....

JFK, OTOH, (was my CIC in 61)...war hero, not guilty of manslaughter.....

not guilty of manslaughter.....

Bay of Pigs vets might not say the same.

Greatamerican,That what your mom calls you

GreatAmerican,

I am no fan of Senator Kennedy, but please - Stalin, Tojo, Mao??

Let's keep it real, OK.


PS - my condolences to the family and friends of the deceased senator.

Bay of Pigs vets might not say the same.

That was a classic CIA f-up. A poor decision founded on bad intel.

Where have we seen this before?

Hmmm....

Actually, I wasn't even referring to Bush. This has been part and parcel of the CIA's long, dark history.

I don't know how much "good" you have do to in your life to make up for killing someone. Guilt can be a motivator for a lot of things. But in the end, I am not the judge of that. May he rest in peace, may Mary Jo Kopechne rest in peace.


"not guilty of manslaughter.....


Bay of Pigs vets might not say the same.


Greatamerican,That what your mom calls you"

Posted by bruceaz


Interesting - so any CIC is guilty of manslaughter? Even the One Messiah?


This has been part and parcel of the CIA's long, dark history.

I only said what I said because GA was making me sick.

Actually,(if they had any successes)you will never hear about successful CIA ventures because only their failures are out in the open.

Just like you never hear about special forces and their escapades around the world

Sorry to make you sick, Bruce....do you like the way your messiah is supporting the CIA's efforts to safeguard our country?

#56 | Posted by bruceaz

Got it (now).

Interesting - so any CIC is guilty of manslaughter? Even the One Messiah?

That's not what I said(learned that from goatman)

Messiah,I don't know where you guys get that.

Ted was a senator,one of a hundred.

Got in a car accident(even I wonder about that)but it happens if you leave your basement who knows what could happen.

While looking up Laura Bush's accident I found out she smokes.

for christ's sake

do you like the way your messiah is supporting the CIA's efforts to safeguard our country?

Like I say you don't know what the CIA is doing or not.

And I'm getting better(Monty Python reference)

Messiah,I don't know where you guys get that.

It came from the campaign trail.

Obama was idolized in such a ridiculous fashion it appeared as if he was viewed as a messiah by his supporters/followers.

"Who's Ted?
Ted's dead, baby. Ted's dead"

Apologies to Quentin Tarantino

Ted Kennedy was a family man, -- a father, husband, brother, son, uncle and a personal friend to many. They will miss him. Any past misdeeds are now between him and God. It's not our place to judge him. Rest in peace.

"Obama was idolized in such a ridiculous fashion it appeared as if he was viewed as a messiah by his supporters/followers..."

...or so it appeared to GOPers suffering from authoritarian personalitiy disorder who couldn't muster up much in the way of positive emotions about the schlump and schlumptress with which they were saddled, those bearing the message, "Oh, well, why not?"

Obama was idolized in such a ridiculous fashion it appeared as if he was viewed as a messiah by his supporters/followers.

He won,get over it.

Goatman,
Don't apologise,go see his new movie

Did he ever get MA to change the state laws for appointing a successor?

don't think he had enough time

Good night, funny man.

Did he ever get MA to change the state laws for appointing a successor?
#65 | Posted by OohRah


Evidently not. The governor of Massachusetts won't be doing any appointing; Kennedy's seat will be filled via a special election which takes place between 145-160 days after his death. No interim appointee allowed. This dates to 2004, when Kerry got the Dem nod and Romney was gov -- before the change in the law, Romney could've appointed a Republican to Kerry's seat, had Kerry won. The law can be changed, of course, but that's up in the air. (See
www.google.com) There's also this: "Successor Plan Gains Steam: Speaker Robert A. DeLeo OK with Giving Gov. Patrick Appoint Power," Boston Herald (news.bostonherald.com).

Everyone must go the way of humans .... RIP.

He won,get over it.

I am over it. You mused over where the messiah lable came from and I provided an answer.


#64 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Deflection alert!

it appeared as if he was viewed as a messiah

appeared,guess that settles that

.or so it appeared to GOPers suffering from authoritarian personalitiy disorder who couldn't muster up much in the way of positive emotions about the schlump and schlumptress with which they were saddled, those bearing the message, "Oh, well, why not?"

You weren't paying any attention during the campains, were you?

For most of the primaries and all of the campaign, Obama was put on a pedestal and worshipped by those in the media (except fox, of course) as the second coming.

Shoot. Chris Matthews had a tingle in his leg.

#74 | Posted by Axiom

Nuh uh!

-Obama supporters

Uh, Jeff, you're the one who moved off topic here when, after another poster veered into the tired "Messiah" rant, you posted, "Obama was idolized in such a ridiculous fashion it appeared as if he was viewed as a messiah by his supporters/followers..."

I simply replied "...or so it appeared to GOPers suffering from authoritarian personalitiy disorder who couldn't muster up much in the way of positive emotions about the schlump and schlumptress with which they were saddled, those bearing the message, 'Oh, well, why not?'"

That's not a deflection, Jeff, unless it's a deflection from your earlier deflection.

Judging by your assinine statement about Gitmo detainees on another thread, you're starting out the day a little unraveled. Maybe you should just call in sick.

In any case, Ted Kennedy: RIP.

You weren't paying any attention during the campains, were you?
#74 | Posted by Axiom

Yes, so much so that I almost felt your pain.

Think you can possibly stay on-point here?

Chris Matthews had a tingle in his leg.


Yeah,that was pathetic.Actually I was for Hillary.I thought she was the tough one.

Then again,as has been pointed out,what do I know.

WISGOD! WHERE ARE YOU? You cleared the way for this thread weeks ago..."Fuck Novak!"

It is all yours man.

Hey thanks Teddy for the 1965 legilation that opened the immigration to the unskilled from the southern hemisphere. We have Kennedy to thank for the invasion of illegals who are drowning this country. What a great legacy. Kennedy was behind the slow downfall of this country and sponsored legislation at every turn that cost the taxpayers dearly and put the US on the brink of bankruptcy. Of course the fawning libs in the media will lionize him for the next week. Pitiful. Good riddance for the country. He was a long festering disgrace except to the Massholes in Massachusettes who kept voting him back in.

Say hello to Mary Jo....

RIP Sen Kennedy. One thing is for sure, he was a better person and helped more people in his life than any person posting disparaging remarks here.

Low man on the Kennedy Crime Syndicate totem pole.

Why is this even a thread ?

sad day the Michael Phelps of Chappaquiddick has gone to get his just rewards.

"Hey Teddy, What if I'm pregnant?"

"Don't worry Mary-Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it."

Ted Kennedy would have passed away a long time ago if only the govt could've found a safe place to bury his liver.

FF, Ted-O!

No more Serenades to illegal immigrants....

Maybe he's singin' them 'ol Chappaquiddick Blues

Uh, Jeff, you're the one who moved off topic here when, after another poster veered into the tired "Messiah" rant

Actually, my response was to Bruce when he mused where this whole messiah thing came from - so I gave him a quick answer.

And I provided your remarks with a bit more detail, just in case Bruce required it.


And I provided your remarks with a bit more detail, just in case Bruce required it.

#91 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis


Actually, you made shit up.

But, on that torture thread you made a comment that really made me chuckle, so I'll give you a pass.

Declassified papers report that JFK was taking eight different medications a day. He was so wasted, his Secret Service code name was Ted Kennedy.

Boo-Hooo,sob,gnash,wail...aw fuck it. He was scum anyway.

Good riddance.

Later douche.

Remember gang, if you're on the phone a lot, get a hands free. It's the only thing between you and brain cancer.

The Prince of Darkness meets his match, eh?

Well, if we all gotta go sometime, this wasn't soon enough.

There is nothing wrong with feeling good an enemy has passed. People celebrated the deaths of Arafat and Saddam Hussein.

"Actually, you made shit up."

It's no more made up than your comment; simply a reflection of one's own perspective. The "messiah" rumblings and rants come from the riiight, and last time around the riiight was decidedly unenthusiastic about their unexciting presidential candidate. My sense of it is that they projected their own authoritarian personality disorder onto the oppostion, assuming that anyone who could actually inspire people must be that for which they yearn: a messiah figure, although in a pinch I wouldn't be surprised if even a moderately fascistically-inclined na'er-do-well on a white pony might not satisfy their desires, should it come to that.

Sad to see you go. The simple fact that you have all these rightwing losers out here crying is testament to your legacy!


LM

Hey Liberal Mongrel, all my posts are from the first ten of this thread

www.drudge.com

hypocrite mother-fucking Statist scumbags

Accident investigators at Chappaquidick determined that the vehicle must have been going approximately 197mph at the time of impact for the passenger's panties to end up in the glovebox where they were subsequently discovered.

If John Kerry would have been president, Teddy's cancer would have been cured and he would still be alive today.

signed,
John Edwards

"#97 | Posted by brentrice1 at 2009-08-26 07:23 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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Ahhhhh, I c. Well March 30th is now the new national holiday. Sice us libs are in control lets toss out that pagan bullshit holiday of x-mas and replace it with America's hero day. All Americans can celerate the greatest hero our nation has ever had, John Hinckley Jr.

LM

A drunk Ted Kennedy was recently seen crawling down some railroad tracks.

Asked if there was a problem, he replied, "Yes. Can you help me off this ladder?"

#100 | Posted by brentrice1 at 2009-08-26 07:28 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
e

bitch, with shit stained panties in a bunch.

LM

Wish I could take credit LM, that was a copy of a post from Jackass about Novak dying from the same ailment:

#18 | Posted by jackass at 2009-08-18 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

#98 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I now see where Vernon came up with 'Drunk_Sarvis'.

;-)

To your point - yes, conservatives were unenthusiastic about McCain.

However, what we saw during the campaign regarding Obama defies 'enthusiastic support'.

We were lectured incessantly about how Obama was going to change the tone in Washington. He was the great unifier. He was hope. He was change. People were fainting during his speeches, not unlike a bunch of late-50's teenie-boppers at a Beatles concert. He was going to bring us ALL together. He is the smartest man in the world. He was going to usher in a new phase of transparency.

The fact is, he had absolutely no track-record to back this shit up. None whatsoever. The little track-record he DID have, gave no indication toward believability of this crap. Yet he was adorned with the level of praise that came off as messiah worship. The press went ballistic. I think the number of cover photos he had relative to McCain was in the neighborhood of 20-1. Now, I didn't expect parity in this regard, given the uniqueness of his circumstance, but 20-1??? The press is supposed to be skeptical of ALL politicians. In Obama's case they weren't, and they still aren't.

Tabloids are reporting that Sen. Ted Kennedy has an illegitimate 21 year-old son. Apparently, Kennedy never denied the report, but the kid did.

Goodbye Lion of the Senate.

You fought many battles for the people,
their rights, the rights of the downtrodden,
and for the well being of Republic.
You have earned a well deserved rest.

No matter what the bitter Rightys
and haters say. They never understood
the equation anyways.

May you be welcomed home within the
arms of loving brothers...


I don't ever want to see another righty ever again bitch about rude and crass comments coming from the left when it comes to the passing of a well-known conservative and/or Republican.

Hey Jeffj, we're quoting those on your side from Novak's death. Nice try.

How many Ted Kennedys does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Two. One to hold the lightbulb, and one to drink until the room starts spinning.

I lost respect for Ted Kennedy as a Senator because of his various positions on issues. But that's a political disagreement, not personal. And frankly, I'm glad that the Senate doesn't have that "bulletproof" B.S. anymore.


My condolences to his family and friends. It is hard to lose a loved one. I wish them fond memories of his life with them. (Though the Kopechne family will probably still not have closure.)

---------

And I'm not surprised to see that the same people who "lionize" him and call for civility at his passing are probably the same ones who won't do the same when GW Bush passes. But then for them, the goose isn't the gander and shouldn't be treated the same.


Huh, you know...for what it is worth, Deathspud actually had a civil post on the Novak thread. Unfortunately he was one of a very small handful.

"But then for them, the goose isn't the gander and shouldn't be treated the same."

The goose never is the gander; a gander is a group of geese.

his liver will have to be buried in a separate casket.

Brent,

I am a conservative, you idiot.

I missed the Novak thread altogether, but on other threads when a prominent conservative/Republican passed, some righties got pissed when lefties denigrated the deceased.

The press is supposed to be skeptical of ALL politicians. In Obama's case they weren't, and they still aren't.
#107 | Posted by JeffJ

I suggest you set aside some quality time to catching up on your reading.

Doc,

I always thought 'gander' was a male goose.

Learn something every day.

gan⋅der  /ˈgndər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [gan-der] Show IPA
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noun 1. the male of the goose.


You'd think that Doc above all people would know something about goosing.

I suggest you set aside some quality time to catching up on your reading.

I am a news junkie.

I read several news articles from a variety of sources every day.

I spend too much time here, keeping my views in check.

I read several non-fiction books per year, including sources with either a liberal slant, or a non-partisan slant.


This is an honest question - I am not looking for a 'gotcha':

To what extent do you read material that you know you'll disagree with and please cite some recent examples.

Given that they can't vote Kennedy into the Senate anymore, I'm wondering how the people of Massachussetts will collectively affirm their assholedom moving forward.....

They'll keep electing Barney Frank.

Death panels, Doc?

www.timesonline.co.uk

www.telegraph.co.uk

www.guardian.co.uk

www.telegraph.co.uk

ahuli.info

www.guardian.co.uk

www.guardian.co.uk

Jeez. That took all of 60 seconds.

Sorry, but one cannot compare Kennedy and Bush.....Kennedy and Strom Thurmond are more on par. I do remember at his passing saying something along the lines "politically we are not eye to eye, but this is not a time for politics.It's a time to remember the man, his legacy and for the family to ge closure".....but hey, we lefties are pure evil.....


LM

Given that they can't vote Kennedy into the Senate anymore, I'm wondering how the people of Massachussetts will collectively affirm their assholedom moving forward.....

#122 | Posted by Sully at 2009-08-26 07:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

They'll keep electing Barney Frank.

#123 | Posted by cookfish at 2009-08-26 07:56 AM | Reply | Flag: HILARIOUS

Too bad we can't flag two posts in series. Cookfish, you could not hit the nail any more squarely.

I suggest you set aside some quality time to catching up on your reading.

#118 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

It's a matter of degree, Doc.

The MSM is still VERY protective of Obama.

Will that change? For all of our sakes, I hope so. I lapdog press is dangerous, regardless of whose knob they are polishing.

You are blind or wilfully ignorant if you fail to see the unmitigated bias the MSM has shown toward Obama.

That he's been called into question a little bit, doesn't change the big picture.

"1. the male of the goose."

My mistake. I was thinking of a a "gaggle." So it goes.

Can we put the windmills up now?

eath panels, Doc?
...
Jeez. That took all of 60 seconds.
#124 | Posted by JeffJ

No doubt. I'm not seeing the "Death Panels," though.

The only "Death Panels" I've seen are American insurance companies.

"The MSM is still VERY protective of Obama."

But hardly uncritical

"Will that change? For all of our sakes, I hope so. I lapdog press is dangerous, regardless of whose knob they are polishing."

I agree with you, completely.

If the Kennedy's were the Beatles then Ted would been neither John nor Paul.

More of a Ringo, really.

That sed he put in more time doing public service than RFK and JFK put together and arguably did more for his nation than both of them.

That's saying something.

For the most part Spud agreed with Ted in term of policy.

Was he perfect?

Nope.

Was he a heavy drinker for years?

Yup.

Was his behaviour on the night of MJK's death reprehensible?

Also Yup.

Are political dynasties inherently undemocratic?

See: Previous answer.

That all sed and noted, Teddy was an unabashed liberal who's long and distinguished service in terms of securing better education and health care for the citizenry, combatting poverty and seeking social justice was mopre than laudable.

RIP Ted Kennedy.

Condolences to surviving family and friends.

Be Well.

/All them Chapaquidich jokes above were about as obvious as they were odious. The DR's resident Rtards need to get some new material.

//As he do
stage left.

"This is the big one, Mary Jo, I'm coming home"

How sad. Wealth. Privilege. Deception.

This man could have done so much and in the end did so very little. Mary Jo Kopechne anyone?

For some reason the talking heads started calling him the 'lion of the senate.'

Why? An obese drunkard with a appetite for floozies and cheap gin who never created a single job.

It is because of people like Ted Kennedy we now enjoy headlines such as:

'The OMB added almost $2 trillion to the 10-year deficit from its May forecast, to $9.05 trillion.'

Ted is dead? Seriously, who gives a rip?

Too bad Lee Harvey shot the wrong brother!!

If Ted was responsible for her death I'm ok with that. She died to benefit the DNC. To me that is a worthy sacrifice.

"For some reason the talking heads started calling him the 'lion of the senate.'
Why?" #134 | Posted by zulu

Did you not notice the mane around his face?

"That all sed and noted, Teddy was an unabashed liberal who's long and distinguished service in terms of securing better education and health care for the citizenry, combatting poverty and seeking social justice was mopre than laudable." #132 | Posted by dethspud

Don't forget open borders. Notice he failed at every one except getting more illegal aliens into the country.

But hardly uncritical

Slowly the MSM has become more critical, in a baby-step fashion.

They still come off as the PR wing of the Obama administration though.

"All them Chapaquidich jokes above were about as obvious as they were odious. The DR's resident Rtards need to get some new material."

Killing someone and then trying to cover it up is something you don't live down even if your family has the power to keep you out of jail.

Not only were Kennedy's actions disgusting but that he was elected to high office and lauded as some kind of hero was illustrative of much of what is wrong with our country: the cult of celebrity, blind partisan support for politicians, money putting people above the law, the neutering of ourfree press, etc.

Is being against manslaughter and of unequal justice for the powerful really a partisan issue to you?

Too bad Lee Harvey shot the wrong brother!!

~Seedy

Wow, angry, ignorant and just plain wrong.

The rtard trifecta.

While MLK was a "brutha" he wasn't a brother to Ted like JFK and RFK.

K?

Be Well.


If Ted was responsible for her death I'm ok with that. She died to benefit the DNC. To me that is a worthy sacrifice.

#136 | Posted by jackass

you are too well-known in these parts now. You need to be more subtle if you are going to attract new flies.

Your web is now laden with dew, shining in the morning sun.

He's, at this moment, being raped by Satan with a glass fragment-encrusted baseball bat.

(ouchie!)

That's what happens to unrepentant premeditated murderers of pregnant girls.

Bridge? What Bridge? -Teddy's first words to St. Peter at the Golden Gate

Few stood up against power and corruption as well as the Kennedy Brothers. Two paid a dear price for it.

Did watching their Father doing business with the mafia make them more aware and determined to squelch their ugly influence on American life?

Sadly the mafia has morphed into Corporate America, Wall Street, and the Military Industrial Complex. I imagine our standard of living would be twice as high without them. The recent bailout bonuses alone are more than California's deficit. Directly into the pockets of fraudsters. The bailout sums exceed bonuses by wide margins. Yet most of Washington applauds Bernanke? Makes you wonder who these people represent?

Only the good die young, so Ed wasn't perfect, having outlived his more serious brothers. But he did try to do the right thing, unlike most of Washington.

Uh? Deathspud? What's with the MLK reference?

What's with the MLK reference?

Good question - I didn't get the reference either.

They still come off as the PR wing of the Obama administration though.

Here's a clue, Jeff.

American MSM is in the business of A) Selling Soap and b) Maintaining the Status Quo.

Bush was lionised and protected by the press early on in his presidency.

Just as Obama is being given a pass now.

They allowed themselves to be used to lie a country to war, if that helps you understand their role.

American public opinion is continually being shaped by the corporate MSM under the guise of reflecting it.

They have, in the main, failed at their prmary job of holding public officials accountable and informing the electorate to enable them to make smart choices with their votes.

You may think along with a lot of other righties that the MSM is primarily lefty and that FOX is the only fair and balanced outlet but in truth FOX is a right wing propaganda outlet and the rest of the MSM are lap dogs for the real rulers of America, the owning class.

They are committed to perpetuating the 51/49% Solution (TM)enabled by the lap dawg press cos at the end of the day, they know their agenda will be advanced no matter which party gets elected.

Heads they win.

Tails you lose.

Be Well.

Seriously though, what's with the MLK reference?

The Rtards put the k in klass.

Bears repeating:


The Rtards put the k in klass.
#150 | Posted by 726

I was afraid this was going to happen right now in the middle of this health care debate. Now Liberals are going to be even more hellbent on passing a public "option" wanting to do it for their Uncle Ted.

I wish he would have lieve one more year, maybe then by that time the public "option" would have been dead too.

Since the Massachusetts legislature did not act on Drunk Ucle Ted's request to change the law regarding the appointment of senators, I guess the old(current) law still applies. If the legislature were to change teh law, it would apply to the next senator.

The retards in Ma are going to as confused as Obama on Fathers Day when they enter the voting booth.
Lockstepping retards.

Hooray! Ted is dead! I hope your very last thoughts were "OUCH!!!! THIS HURTS SO BAD!!!"

The good news is that ol' Teddy didn't sing or dance. That means we shouldn't have to put up with days and days of reruns clogging up the TV channels like we had with Mike the Tyke Molester.

Fuck you Ted Kennedy, you fat bloated murdering cocksucker.


#151 | Posted by 101Chairborne


That's a bit too mild of an insult. Are you sure you're feeling alright?

Bush was lionised and protected by the press early on in his presidency.


Just as Obama is being given a pass now.

In the first 6 months of his presidency Obama got as much positive press as Bush and Clinton combined.


American public opinion is continually being shaped by the corporate MSM under the guise of reflecting it.

If that was true, then Rochelle Riley, Leonard Pitts and Mitch Albom would have been shit-canned from the Gannett-owned Detroit News and Detroit Free Press long ago for their consistent, lefty views. Your 'corporate control' tack doesn't pass muster when it comes to specificity.


You may think along with a lot of other righties that the MSM is primarily lefty and that FOX is the only fair and balanced outlet but in truth FOX is a right wing propaganda outlet and the rest of the MSM are lap dogs for the real rulers of America, the owning class.

1. In every empircal study I have seen, Fox is closer to center than her competitors.

2. The MSM constantly rails against the 'owning class'. Trumped-up fuel explosions in Crown Vics...over-hyped rollovers of Ford Explorers...parroting the recent DNC demonization of insurance companies as well as ANY body who has the audacity to protest Obama's policies or those of the DNC - teabaggers, gun-toting redneck pieces of shit at townhalls, etc. During Bush, protestors were lionized and dissent WAS patriotism. Now, it's labelled as vile; and not just by the DNC, but the press.

Sorry, the facts don't support your Chomsky-esque views that corporations are the root of all evil regarding the goings on of this nation. And corporatism CERTAINLY doesn't explain a brutally consistent bias in favor of almost all things left-of-center exhibited by our beloved MSM.

Can you cite examples where our press failed to hold the right and/or Republicans to account?

Of course.

But when it comes to degree, the press is almost unmitigated in an absurd bias toward leftism and the DNC.




What's with the MLK reference?

LOL. Spud thought you got James Earl Ray with Lee Harvey Oswald and it was really vice versa.

Spuda Culpa

My Bad.

Self correcting lefty and all.

In Spud's defense all them three-named, racist, red neck rtard killahs do look kinda alike.

That sed, yer still wrong.

Just a different kind of wrong.

Be Well.

"You are blind or wilfully ignorant if you fail to see the unmitigated bias the MSM has shown toward Obama."

After Bush lied us into a war while the press cheered him on it just becomes ridiculous to whine about their treatment of Obama.

Chris Matthews: "We're all neocons today."

After Bush lied us into a war while the press cheered him on it just becomes ridiculous to whine about their treatment of Obama.

That issue notwithstanding, as a matter of degree, the press is WAY more sympathetic toward Obama, the DNC and lefty causes.

#34 | Posted by hillarysucks - FF!

Ted Kennedy's death represents more than the passing of one great Senator, he is also the last of the Kennedy brothers, all of whom did try to serve their country in the best way they knew how to. The ugly hatred for Ted is masked by Chappaquiddick but those of us old enough to remember know that the hatred was there before Ted ever got into that car. The same folks who despised him would have done so whether or not he had been involved in that tragedy. Some of them will deny it but us older folks know the truth. Few families in America have given more to public service and even decent conservatives would be willing to admit that much.

#151 | Posted by 101Chairborne - i HATE it when you hold back like that!

"That issue notwithstanding????"
"That issue notwithstanding????"
"That issue notwithstanding????"
"That issue notwithstanding????"

Are you kidding me????

"Since the Massachusetts legislature did not act on Drunk Ucle Ted's request to change the law regarding the appointment of senators, I guess the old(current) law still applies. If the legislature were to change teh law, it would apply to the next senator.
#154 | Posted by member2586"


news.bostonherald.com

nanc, re: 101 holding back, I agree, I feel ripped off when that happens.

"Watching two of my brothers be assassinated would turn me into an alcoholic too."

Hell, watching my brother be an asshole has been enough to drive me to drink.

r.i.p., mary jo:

lh6.ggpht.com

Doc, they can change the law if they want, but since Kenedy already died, I would imagine it is the current law that applies to this situation. I am not a Constitutional scolar, but how can you change the rules in the middle of the game? But then again, politicnans do that all the time I guess.

Ted's dead? I'll drink to that. -Joan

it is not that difficult to focus on ted's accomplishments:

3.bp.blogspot.com

i'm wondering which of the leftistas here are always saying, "paybacks are a bitch!!!"?

D'OH! all of them - well, yes they are.

#167 | Posted by member2586 - depriving us like that is just not fair (she said in the whiniest voice she could muster)!

1. In every empircal study I have seen, Fox is closer to center than her competitors.



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

www.oreilly-sucks.com


The most centrist outlet proved to be the "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown" and ABC's "Good Morning America" were a close second and third.

A study by the Program on International Policy Attitudes,[38] in the Winter 03-04 issue of Political Science Quarterly, reported that viewers of Fox News, the Fox Broadcasting Company, and local Fox affiliates were more likely than viewers of other news networks to hold three misperceptions:[39]

67% of Fox viewers believed that the "U.S. has found clear evidence in Iraq that Saddam Hussein was working closely with the al Qaeda terrorist organization" (Compared with 56% for CBS, 49% for NBC, 48% for CNN, 45% for ABC, 16% for NPR/PBS).
The belief that "The US has found Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq" was held by 33% of FOX viewers and only 23% of CBS viewers, 19% for ABC, 20% for NBC, 20% for CNN and 11% for NPR/PBS
35% of Fox viewers believed that "the majority of people [in the world] favor the U.S. having gone to war" with Iraq. (Compared with 28% for CBS, 27% for ABC, 24% for CNN, 20% for NBC, 5% for NPR/PBS)

Kennedy was a depraved piece of shit. The world is better off without him. His supposed "accomplishments" listed by lefties are mere sponsorships of bills, something any democrat who hasn't killed a woman can do.

I feel for his family, but I'm glad he's gone.

seems all you faux nuts should change to NPR to get your reality

it is not that difficult to focus on ted's accomplishments:

~Beldam nanc

Teddy voted against Chimpy's colossal Iraqi fuck up. Look at this nanc, you might get wet for the first time this century.

mindprod.com

#177 | Posted by JOE - channeling 101...BWAH!

Joe, what do think, if the MA Legislature changes the law on who can replace Kenedy, does the law apply to ne senators or could they Constitutional apply it retroactively to a dead person?

hey nanc dont forget laura bush's contributions to society

media.photobucket.com

In the first 6 months of his presidency Obama got as much positive press as Bush and Clinton combined

Spud puts that down to two factors.

First, general disatisfaction with government from people from all sides of the political spectrum is waaaaay up after Dumbya's reign of errors and it behooved the powers that be to focus on the positivism his campaign inspired in order to overcome that.

Second, the guy is a waaay more inspiring orator than Bush and Clinton combined.

If that was true, then Rochelle Riley, Leonard Pitts and Mitch Albom would have been shit-canned from the Gannett-owned Detroit News and Detroit Free Press long ago for their consistent, lefty views. Your 'corporate control' tack doesn't pass muster when it comes to specificity.

Not saying that there aren't actual lefties and righties in the MSM. They are needed, in fact, for the game to work. But while there may be individual lefties and righties here and there the overall agenda is a corporatist one. There is no unanimity amongst the corporate interests who seek to control legislature towards their own ends, rather there are competing groups of corporate interests. Their opposing viewpoints eventually become the national debate which is largely framed and decided by traditional media.

1. In every empircal study I have seen, Fox is closer to center than her competitors.

Citation needed.

Fox fakes centrality by allowing tame liberals like Alan Colmes on and calling it parity when the reality to anyone watching with an unbiased eye will tell you, is that it is an overwhelmingly one sided trumpeter of the GOP and demoniser of the Dems.

2. The MSM constantly rails against the 'owning class'. Trumped-up fuel explosions in Crown Vics...over-hyped rollovers of Ford Explorers...parroting the recent DNC demonization of insurance companies as well as ANY body who has the audacity to protest Obama's policies or those of the DNC - teabaggers, gun-toting redneck pieces of shit at townhalls, etc. During Bush, protestors were lionized and dissent WAS patriotism. Now, it's labelled as vile; and not just by the DNC, but the press.

Protesters then and now are demonised.

Marginalised, cast in dark tones, equated to anger, violence and, in extreme cases, terrorism.

The teabaggers *are* ridiculous in the main.

Inarticulate rage monkeys spewing half remembered reichwing radio talking points with a palpable undertone of racism and violence.

The press tends to seize on the most extreme members of both sides New Black Panthers, Code Pink and Cindy Sheehan on the left and the teabaggers and towen hall disrupters on the right.

Ignoring the more moderate and sane voices.

Sorry, the facts don't support your Chomsky-esque views that corporations are the root of all evil regarding the goings on of this nation. And corporatism CERTAINLY doesn't explain a brutally consistent bias in favor of almost all things left-of-center exhibited by our beloved MSM.

Actually the facts do support these views you'd just be hard pressed to find a lot of press on the subject, oddly enuff. Kinda the point, really.

Yer idear that because every other network is not like FOX makes them left biased is, quite frankly, insane.

Can you cite examples where our press failed to hold the right and/or Republicans to account?

The lead up to the war was a pretty instructive moment in that regard.

But when it comes to degree, the press is almost unmitigated in an absurd bias toward leftism and the DNC.

That's a common right wing fallacy that you have obviously bought into lock, stock and both smoking barrells.

Spud aint buying it.

Be Well.

If a canadian politician died, would anyone know or care?
The obvious answer is "no", and it's because nobody gives a flying fuck about canada or the boring fucks that live there.

"Few stood up against power and corruption as well as the Kennedy Brothers."

Insanity.

HE KILLED A GIRL AND USED HIS POWER TO GET AWAY WITH IT.

Anyone home?

Guess not.

I honestly dont know how anyone can get their news from those cable news channels. they all strike me as a bunch of snake oil salesmen. and that is both left and right sides of the aisle.

you have either fast talking bullshit artists, olbermann, hannity, orielly, etal

or

WWE style verbal bouts of diarrhea with assfaces talking over each other shouting soundbytes and nonsense at each other

or

Opinions as news, seems lik 90% of cables news is actually cable opinion and that aint news that is some biased paid talking bullshitter selling you something.

I appreciate NPR where there is an attempt at civility and discourse, extended discussions of topics where people are allowed to express more than one or two sentances in a row and a deeper analysis of the news.

guess that is why the studies show NPR listeners are better informed of reality.


Bush started a war of agression and used his power to get away with it.


FTFY

Dead on the fourth of July?

Bring on the fireworks.

They say speak nothing but good of the dead.

But the folks who usually say that never met Teddy.

If there's a hell below then he and Jerry Foulwell are having pineapples shoved up their butts as we speak.

Be Well.

/Like a tater do,
stage left.

Posted by dethspud at 2008-07-04 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag (X) Surprised

www.drudge.com

If a canadian politician died, would any American know or care?

The obvious answer is "no", and it's because most Americans couldn't find Canada on a map of North America even if you gave them two guesses.

~101 Airhead

FTFY.

Be Well.

#182 | Posted by truthhurts - we can dance on her grave at the appropriate time.

Glad to hear you acknowledge that Teddy Kennedy is in Hell.

Spud wonders if any of the DR's RTs will show up and try to stick up fer this deplorable sack of shit.

Be Well.

Posted by dethspud at 2008-07-04 11:05 AM | Reply | Flag (X) Too soon, Spud

www.drudge.com

#184 | Posted by 101Chairborne - attaboy - that's the 101 we look forward to!

"But then for them, the goose isn't the gander and shouldn't be treated the same."

The goose never is the gander; a gander is a group of geese.

#115 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-08-26 07:44 AM | Reply | Flag: needs to be goosed.


Goose: a particular species of avian. No gender.
Gander: male goose.
Geese: more than one goose.

==========

Interestingly, didn't have any retort on Dead Ted.

"FTFY"

I'd be lost around here without the urban dictionarky.

Why the fuck don't you write in fucking queen's proper fucking english damn it!

Definitions continued, just for the hell of it:

Gaggle: Group of geese

Skein: group of geese flying.

Wedge: skein flying in a V formation.

"Bush started a war of agression and used his power to get away with it."

And when I post something as idiotic as "Bush stood up to corruption and abuse of power..." that would be a legitimate response to what I said.

Bush being a piece of crap doesn't make Ted Kennedy any less of a piece of crap.

Canada is America's bitch.


Again, Kennedy did far greater things for more people than anyone who is making disparaging remarks on this day. Pathetic losers every single one of you.

And a correction and more definitions:

goose is female, aka hen.

gosling: baby bird of the species.

Mother Goose: writer of children's tales and nursery rhymes.

FTFY.


Be Well.

#189 | Posted by dethspud at 2009-08-26 09:44 AM | Reply


The only thing you "fix" is a nanny cam, you freak.

#198 | Posted by taxman at 2009-08-26 09:50 AM | Reply

Don't you have taxpayers to harras or something?

R.I.P.

.....and thank you for your years of service to the country....

"HE KILLED A GIRL AND USED HIS POWER TO GET AWAY WITH IT."

OR...at least that is the version of the story that those who hated the Kennedys chose to believe. The hatred preceded Chappaquiddick. Had Teddy never driven that car the same people who hated him when he died would have anyway.

Ahhhhh, I c. Well March 30th is now the new national holiday. Sice us libs are in control lets toss out that pagan bullshit holiday of x-mas and replace it with America's hero day. All Americans can celerate the greatest hero our nation has ever had, John Hinckley Jr.

LM

#103 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel
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What will Stalin, Lennon, Hitler and Mao think about you worshiping John Hinckley Jr.? Then again what would your messiah think. I'm sure he'll feel kicked to the curb.

Lonnie

First, general disatisfaction with government from people from all sides of the political spectrum is waaaaay up after Dumbya's reign of errors and it behooved the powers that be to focus on the positivism his campaign inspired in order to overcome that.

Which doesn't explain why Clinton languished after the reign of horror of the elder Bush.


Second, the guy is a waaay more inspiring orator than Bush and Clinton combined.

Bullshit! For all of his faults, Clinton was an excellent orator and certainly more 'in-touch' than Obama has ever been.


Protesters then and now are demonised.

In general, yes. By the MSM, HELL NO!!!

Case in point:

The teabaggers *are* ridiculous in the main.


Inarticulate rage monkeys spewing half remembered reichwing radio talking points with a palpable undertone of racism and violence.

That is so ridiculous, I don't even know where to start. So, you equate the growing dismay with the vast expansion of government largesse with an "undertone" (sic) of racism and violence? Drop the fucking race-baiting shit already. The glass-ceiling has been shattered (which is a good thing). I hate to break it to you, but it IS possible to criticise Obama's massive-expansionist view of government power without being racist. I know, that is a difficult concept to grasp. Going further, conservatives were already despondent over the GOP's feckless deficits. And then, Obama increases those deficits 4-fold before he admits that his admin mis-underestimated said deficits by 30% and you have the fucking gall to mock concern over this shit???


Cont...




hey nanc dont forget laura bush's contributions to society


media.photobucket.com

#182 | Posted by truthsquirts

Bwahahaha. You poor Bastard.

"Again, Kennedy did far greater things for more people than anyone who is making disparaging remarks on this day."

What things did he do? Specifically, what did he propose that was ever enacted into law and changed someone's life for the better?

"Had Teddy never driven that car the same people who hated him when he died would have anyway."

But he did drive the car. Then he swam away from it and went to sleep, and didn't report the accident. The motivations of his detractors does not change the fact that his conduct was deplorable and inhuman.

He was in the Senate for 47 years. Whatever bitches and gripes the libbies have with their government, can be laid at the feet of the octogenarian representatives who have been in Congress for longer than I've been alive.

He WAS the problem. When the libtards can get over their slavish devotion to career politicians, we might be able to get something done. Not likely, though. 80-year-old spinsters still get weak in the knees when they hear the word "Kennedy", so we'll have to make do with another generation of them in public life.

Your leadership will be missed.

"Your leadership will be missed."

The editors of Modern Drunkard Magazine must be thinking the same thing.

#42 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

So everyone is allowed one unrepentant vehicular manslaughter in life?


#17 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2009-08-26 02:26 AM | Reply | Flag:


Sure. Why not?


Laura Bush killed her boyfriend with her car and you still worship her.
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In 1963, Laura ran a stop sign resulting in a fatal car accident that killed her friend in another car.[8][9] The driver of the other car was her classmate Michael Dutton Douglas. According to the accident report released by the city of Midland, neither driver was under the influence of alcohol or drugs, and no charges were filed
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Kennedy was drunk and left this women to die, so to make a comparison to Laura Bush is stretch


Your leadership will be missed.

#210 | Posted by sty at 2009-08-26 09:57 AM | Reply | Flag


Hilarious. What did he lead? Where did he lead us? Are we someplace right now that you want to be?

Try and see if you can come up with something he's done (besides kill somebody and be related to a couple of killed politicians) that would make anyone know or care who he was...

"And then, Obama increases those deficits 4-fold before he admits that his admin mis-underestimated said deficits by 30% and you have the fucking gall to mock concern over this shit???"

His actions increased the deficit????

Oh, I see, it wasn't the Bush tax cuts, the Bush wars, the Bush Medicare drug bill....etc.
Like it or not Obama did inherit a completely screwed up economy, two wars and a drug bill that prohibited negotiating better prices. Now he is trying to reform health care because virtually all economists acknowledge that the costs are spiraling to unsustainable percentages of GDP and all the former Bush supporters can do is focus on the immediate costs without ever looking at the long term effect on the economy if we do nothing.
It becomes obvious that the right has a very limited capacity to really understand complicated issues just like the former president they "elected" did. Today, virtually all of their arguments against real health care reform are based on overly simplistic, emotional fear driven nonsense. The underlying fact about health care reform that the right seems too unintelligent to grasp is that with the already too high percentage of GDP that health care takes we are becoming more and more uncompetitive on world markets. You would think that the party that pretends to understand business would understand the unsustainability of that fact.

The press tends to seize on the most extreme members of both sides New Black Panthers, Code Pink and Cindy Sheehan on the left and the teabaggers and towen hall disrupters on the right.


Ignoring the more moderate and sane voices.

The MSM goes out of its way to 'hide' the whackos at anti-Bush rallies (whackos are present at all rallies) but goes out of their way to not only repeatedly show highlights of a few whacko townhallers, but then jumps on the bandwagon as depicting these idiots as a microchosm of those who oppose Obama.


That's a common right wing fallacy that you have obviously bought into lock, stock and both smoking barrells.

Empirical study after study indicates this to be the case.

How many compare and contrasts do you need me to recite before you even acknowledge this?


Spud aint buying it.

What a shocker.


The press is almost unimaginably biased.

ALL major protests are organized.

The anti-war/anti-Bush protests were extremely organized.

The "tea-bagger" protests were organized, but less so.

Which of the 2 had not only greater overall numbers, but an overall broader reach?


What things did he do? Specifically, what did he propose that was ever enacted into law and changed someone's life for the better?

All you have to do is turn on the TV and listen to people from both sides of the aisle discuss what he did for them. All it takes is a little google search to go and find his many achievments and good deeds. He had a sordid personal life, and he acknowledged as much, but that does mean we should forget his public service and other good deeds. But go ahead with you partisan blinders and act like a little hack with all of your other little hack buddies here.

And with that I am done for the day, I have actual work to do which is more than I can say for many of you here.

bye bye teddy

What did Ted do? How about the Bush-Kennedy education bill which everyone complains. How about backing amnesty for illegal aliens? Yeah, thank you Ted.

If Ted was responsible for her death I'm ok with that. She died to benefit the DNC. To me that is a worthy sacrifice.

#136 | Posted by jackass
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Of course you are jackass because you have absolutely no morals and you don't value human life.

Lonnie

"All you have to do is turn on the TV"

But I asked you, since you said he did good things. Do you not know what they are?

"All it takes is a little google search to go and find his many achievments and good deeds."

I did a google search - all I found was that he proposed an amendment for national healthcare in the 60's that didn't pass, then they skipped ahead to 1997. Most of the "accomplishments" were bills he sponsored - something any democrat who never killed a woman would have done in his place.

So, what made him so great?

"Not likely, though. 80-year-old spinsters still get weak in the knees when they hear the word "Kennedy", so we'll have to make do with another generation of them in public life."

ER...and how many years has Cheney been in public life, and the Bush family, puhleeeeez your myopia seems effected by the letter after their name.

Who was the longest serving Senator....let me think....oh yeah....Sen. Strom Thurmond.

How is the tenor of the thread? 218 is a lot to go through. Is this a roast, or a mourning, or just an acknowledgment of his accomplishments, both good and bad?

"Of course you are jackass because you have absolutely no morals and you don't value human life. "

We are the union, we are the mighty union, don't fuck with the union or we'll throw a molotov cocktail on your ass.

posted by jackass

How about backing amnesty for illegal aliens? Yeah, thank you Ronnie and John McCain.

#214 | Posted by danni

Fuck Bush.

I don't give a rat's ass about Bush, or the GOP.


Jesus f-ing Christ.

Spare me your holier-than-thou, I am smarter than everybody else bullshit.

You were so solid yesterday.

What happened?

Were you stoned yesterday, or are you stoned right now?

:-)

What did Ted do?

In 1989 the European paparazzi stalked him on a vacation there and photographed him having sex on a motorboat.

On Easter weekend 1991, Kennedy was at a get-together at the family's Palm Beach, Florida estate when, restless and maudlin after reminiscing about his brother-in-law, he left for a late-night visit to a local bar, getting his son Patrick and nephew William Kennedy Smith to accompany him.[100][119] Patrick Kennedy and Smith returned with women they met there, Michelle Cassone and Patricia Bowman. Cassone said that Ted Kennedy subsequently walked in on her and Patrick, dressed only in a nightshirt and with a weird look on his face.[100][119] Smith and Bowman went out on the beach, where they had sex that he said was consensual and she said was rape.

In January 1971, Kennedy lost his position as Senate Majority Whip when he lost the support of several members and was defeated by Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, 3124.

In the January 1980 Iowa caucuses that began the primaries season, Carter demolished Kennedy by a 5931 percent margin.[

I shall respond in the same way I noted Bob Novak's passing...

Later douche.


OR...at least that is the version of the story that those who hated the Kennedys chose to believe.

What's your version then Danni? (This should be interesting.)

"I bet you could count on your penis the number of Democrats who actually took a tough stance toward illegal immigration."

I coulod count it on a quarter of my penis. Just because yours is small doesn't mean mine is, lol. (Sorry, couldn't resist).

Who saved the Novak thread? I remember someone saying they were going to for when Ted died. Well, he died.

Fuck Bush.

I don't give a rat's ass about Bush, or the GOP.

Uh oh...that should put a hitch in the old Partisanator 5000.

I do not celebrate the loss of any life, or the the sadness that loss represents to his family.

I also do no memorialise any man just because he is dead. Policies I might have simple differences in opinion about aside, he still represented what is broken in our system, not what is right.

He was a man that at best was guilty of DUI Man slaughter, and who after the taking of that life remained a drunk for his entire life and clearly suffered no remorse beyond lip service. I do not expect perfection in men, I however do not respect a hypocrite. He is just one example of the hive of hypocrites that makes up the two houses of congress. They insist on telling us how to live, what we need or deserve, while they themselves live lives of self indulgent gluttony. These are NOT great men. In many cases, they are the worst our country has to offer.

The fact that he was in that office for so many years is to me a sad statement about our society, and a powerful argument for term limits. As corrupt & petty as most ALL of these people are, an act of drunken murder at the hands of a fool should have been a dis qualifier by any civilized standard.

I feel for his family, and death is no way to see change in congress. However, Mary Jo kopechne suffered that loss at the hands of a drunk who was more concerned with his own future than he was with her life many years ago, and they will never see justice of any kind. I hope that with his passing the folks in his district will in the future hold there next representative to a higher standard. These men represent US, They can all be challenged and in fact it is our responsibility to do so. Don't allow your "representative" to paint you as drunken fools who value money and position above life. The man should have been held accountable, and a man of true character would have taken responsibility for his actions, and if he cared, would have made changes in his own life. Clearly, his values, his true loves were power, money, booze and self indulgent narcissistic gratification and delusions of greatness. Without the money, he would have been your typical drunken trailer park trash with whisky induced delusions of grandeur and belly's full of liquid courage the libs so love to despise. As a man, he was nothing special. He just had enough money so as to afford him the ability to survive mistakes.

Don't apologize to me - I was referring to Danni's penis, not my own.

#232 | Posted by JeffJ


Gee, I didn't know Danni was a South African track star, lol!


#182 | Posted by truthhurts - we can dance on her grave at the appropriate time.

#190 | Posted by nanc


might fauxtian of you.

Posted by dethspud at 2008-07-04 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag (X) Surprised

www.drudge.com

Ahhh, the Jesse Helms RIP thread.

A Drudge Retort Classic, that one.

Almost as much fun as the mega platinum Jerry Foulsmell RIP thread.

www.drudge.com

Good times, good times.

1057 comments.

The Drudge Gerbil that powers RCade's blog-empire nearly kicked it that day.

NPR listeners are better informed of reality

NPR does rawk.

Be Well.

here you go, kanrei - novak thread:

www.drudge.com

Kanrei, a little light reading never hurt anyone, c'mon, don't be lazy and read!

Nanc,
I didn't want to see it. I was just curious if anyone saved it since this was specifically mentioned in it. I made one serious post in that thread and trolled the rest of the time, so I am not eager to revisit it personally.

Barney Frank said today should become a state holiday, and will speak tonight at the first Tears for Queers Ceremony.

a little light reading never hurt anyone

This is a thread about a Kennedy's death- I highly doubt there is any light reading here.

Barney Frank? I just had a scary thought go through my mind: Whaf it BF becoms the next senator of MA?

Fuck that piece of shit. Good riddens to bad rubbish.

#240 | Posted by cookfish

Give it a rest, cupcake. Let your other hand take over some of the work until your brain kicks in.

I hate to break it to you, but it IS possible to criticise Obama's massive-expansionist view of government power without being racist.

Spud hates to break it to you but the argument is not that ALL criticism of Obama is based on a racist predisposition to oppose him just some.

If you want to continue to willfully deny the evidence of racism on the right yer entitled to that and Spud is entitled to laff at you in return.

Aint freedom grand?

In terms of the "massive expansion of government" thing Spud simply doesn't equate America coming on line with a public option in health care like every other democracy to Obama turning DC into the Kremlin.

Be Well.

Good riddens to bad rubbish.
#243 | Posted by phuckn_libtards| Flag: Missed Out On No Child Left Behind

The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dreams shall never die.

"Spare me your holier-than-thou, I am smarter than everybody else bullshit."

Sure Jeff, and I'll just sit here as you pretend that the evil librul media only says nice things about Obama and were so tough on Bush. Riiight.

When Obama does anything anywhere near as evil, stupid, just plain crazy as Bush let me know.

BTW, accusations of "your holier-than-thou, I am smarter than everybody else bullshit" go both ways sweety.


We watched both his brothers die in the streets for their country, and him go on to a glorious career fighting for just causes in that same country, coming to be known as the Lion of the Senate.

Of course, none of his detractors here have ever contributed even one percent to their country of what he did, so we can take their whining about him for what is is worth, nada.

He lived long enough to see most Americans get over their racist tendencies enough to elect a black President, though not long enough to see the goal of universal health care for his fellow citizens.

Perhaps the progressive movement will now dedicate their efforts towards this goal as a tribute to Senator Ted Kennedy.

RIP

Who saved the Novak thread? I remember someone saying they were going to for when Ted died. Well, he died.

#230 | Posted by kanrei

LOL. The Novak thread was just the latest incarnation of that idear.

If you read the linked Foulwell and Helm's RIP threads you can read a bunch of pissed off rtards claiming essentially "Just you wait until Ted Kennedy dies...".

Like they wouldn't have shit all over Ted's RIP thread anyway.

Funny is *that* notion.

Be Well.

Any failure in intelligence is dwarfed by the administration's
manipulation ...in making the case for war"
Senator Kennedy

''There was no imminent threat. This was made up in Texas,
announced in January to the Republican leadership that war
was going to take place and was going to be good politically.
This whole thing was a fraud.
Edward Kennedy

The need for two countries was never more evident than seen in the posts about Kennedy's death. When his brothers were killed, the same hatred was evident.

The North certainly fucked up by fighting the Civil War. Half a million Americans died for nothing.

I hope the South tries again. I would do everything I could to assure their success. Millions upon millions of cons are way ahead of me. Join up lib haters--grow some balls and fight for what you believe in.

www.texasnationalist.com

www.sonofthesouth.net

images.google.com

''No one questioned whether we were going to have a successful
military policy. What everyone questioned was whether
we had a peace policy, and we have none. It's being made up every
single day and American service men are paying for it and this is
directly the responsibility of this administration and no one is
being held accountable.''
Edward Kennedy

The torture and other sadistic abuses of prisoners in Iraq have done
immense damage already to America's reputation in the world, and
the worst may be yet to come. Shamefully, we now learn that
Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management
U.S. management.

These incidents have stained our military and stained our country.
America is being vilified throughout the Middle East and in other
parts of the world. We cannot get answers quickly enough.
Edward Kennedy

"What's your version then Danni? (This should be interesting.)"

I don't have one, pretty much I've had to accept the version that law enforcement provided. OK, you don't accept it but you do so by choice and in other situations with other politicians you'd use that same law enforcement as a defense. We all pretty much cloud our evaluations of these type things by our feelings toward the people involved.
Truth is none of us know the truth but some are willing to pretend they do when it suits their purpose. Like I said before, the hatred of the Kennedys preceded Chappaquiddick.

though not long enough to see the goal of universal health care for his fellow citizens.


Perhaps the progressive movement will now dedicate their efforts towards this goal as a tribute to Senator Ted Kennedy.


RIP


#249 | Posted by Corky


What did I tell you folks? I predicted this on my first post in this thread. Liberalas will now be hellbent on passing a public "option". I wish Ted had waited a year to die when the public option was also dead.

By contrast, "preventive" military action refers to strikes that
target a country before it has developed a capability that could
someday become threatening. Preventive attacks have generally
been condemned. For example, the 1941 sneak attack on Pearl Harbor
was regarded as a preventive strike by Japan, because the Japanese
were seeking to block a planned military buildup by the United
States in the Pacific.

The document openly contemplates preventive attacks against groups
or states, even absent the threat of imminent attack. It
legitimizes this kind of first strike option, and it elevates it to
the status of a core security doctrine. Disregarding norms of
international behavior, the Bush Strategy asserts that the United
States should be exempt from the rules we expect other nations to
obey.

It is impossible to justify any such double standard under
international law. Might does not make right. America cannot write
its own rules for the modern world. To attempt to do so would be
unilateralism run amok. It would antagonize our closest allies,
whose support we need to fight terrorism, prevent global warming,
and deal with many other dangers that affect all nations and
require international cooperation. It would deprive America of the
moral legitimacy necessary to promote our values abroad. And it
would give other nationsfrom Russia to India to Pakistanan excuse
to violate fundamental principles of civilized international behavior.
Edward Kennedy, 10-7-02


wow very prescient

"none of his detractors here have ever contributed even one percent to their country of what he did"

What did he contribute to this country, other than sponsoring bills that any other democrat in his place would have also sponsored? Did he come up with any ideas on his own that were made into law and that helped people?

Of course, none of his detractors here have ever contributed even one percent to their country of what he did, so we can take their whining about him for what is is worth, nada.

Yeah...then again, I never killed anyone either.

"What will Stalin, Lennon, Hitler and Mao think about you worshiping John Hinckley Jr.? Then again what would your messiah think. I'm sure he'll feel kicked to the curb."

Atheist don't have messiah's confused one....

I do find it very funny that soooo many of you secessionist and "tea-baggers" who call for revolution don't realize that you are all most mirroring the early life of Mao.

P.S. If you truly studied you find out that A, communism is not an atheist belief, and being communist does not equate to atheism. Secondly, Hitler, Lennin were all x-trian. Mao created his own religion like x-trians did. Stalin was a marxist after giving up his seminary work.

LM

"The President's handling of the war has been a toxic mix of ignorance, arrogance, and stubborn ideology. No amount of Presidential rhetoric or preposterous campaign spin can conceal the truth about the steady downward spiral in our national security since President Bush made the decision to go to war in Iraq."

#260

Good thing, because you've never done anything that would have even come close to making up for it.

#259 | Posted by JOE at 2009-08-26 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag: May learn to use Google any day now.

May you be welcomed home within the
arms of loving brothers...

#109 | Posted by earthmuse at 2009-08-26 07:34 AM

IN HELL MUTHA FUCKA!!!

Ted Kennedy earned my respect in the run up to the war in Iraq as one of the few brave enough to oppose it despite all the pressure to do otherwise. I remember him once saying "anyone who supports this war needs to watch Black Hawk Down, the end of Saving Private Ryan, because that is what this war will look like."

Living easy, living free
Season ticket on a one-way ride
Asking nothing, leave me be
Taking everything in my stride
Don't need reason, don't need rhyme
Ain't nothing I would rather do
Going down, party time
My friends are gonna be there too

I'm on the highway to hell

No stop signs, speed limit
Nobody's gonna slow me down
Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Nobody's gonna mess me round
Hey Satan, payed my dues
Playing in a rocking band
Hey Momma, look at me
I'm on my way to the promised land

I'm on the highway to hell
(Don't stop me)

And I'm going down, all the way down
I'm on the highway to hell

"What did I tell you folks? I predicted this on my first post in this thread. Liberalas will now be hellbent on passing a public "option". I wish Ted had waited a year to die when the public option was also dead."

As I recall Lyndon Johnson also asked Congress to pass Civil Rights to honor the memory of John Kennedy. Seems that many times every time major advances in America happen it requires the death of a crusader like Ted, Bobby or John Kennedy to galvanize the support to combat the well funded opposition. In the long run most Americans will see real health care reform as an important advance for America and eventually the opposition will appear much like they have on every other major advance in our history....and they certainly don't look very good in hindsight.
Opponents of SS in hindsight???
Opponents of Civil Rights in hindsight???
Opponents of Medicare in hindsight???

Good thing, because you've never done anything that would have even come close to making up for it.

That's the beauty of not killing anyone...you don't have to make up for it.

Ted Kennedy: Video Retrospective

www.huffingtonpost.com

#264 | Posted by Corky at 2009-08-26 10:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

You are the one who made the assertion that he has done something. I did use google and reported my findings in #220, which nobody has responded to since. You are free to answer my question if you can - what did he do other than sponsor bills that any other democrat in his place would have sponsored? Did he come up with anything on his own that was enacted into law and helped people?


What did Ted do? How about the Bush-Kennedy education bill which everyone complains. How about backing amnesty for illegal aliens? Yeah, thank you Ted.

#218 | Posted by member2586 at 2009-08-26 10:05 AM | Reply | Flag:


You mean NCLB??? No one complained about the bill--there was nothing wrong with the bill---the problem was---Bush didn't fund it. That's where the complaints cam in little mind---not for anything Kennedy did.

The Illegal aliens are here--they aren't going anywhere, and the land they are mostly living in used to be theirs before we took it from them. Kennedy's idea was to fast track them to citizenship, and get them paying taxes. What's YOUR idea loudmouth?


"As he wrote in Newsweek just last month: "For four decades I have carried this cause--from the floor of the United States Senate to every part of this country. It has never been merely a question of policy; it goes to the heart of my belief in a just society. Now the issue has more meaning for me--and more urgency--than ever before. But it's always been deeply personal, because the importance of health care has been a recurrent lesson throughout most of my 77 years."

Nobody knows how the final vote will turn out in the Senate, where Republicans have so far put up a solid front of opposition, and conservative Democrats are dragging their feet on passage of the kind of far-reaching legislation Kennedy so ardently desired.

Kennedy's vote had been considered as a critical one. But those hoping for a dramatic moment, like the one that took place last year, will no longer get their wish

It was a little more than a year ago, when Democrats in the Senate found themselves two votes short on a crucial Medicare vote, that Kennedy -- diagnosed with brain cancer that spring -- came to the rescue.

Watching Republicans eviscerate Medicare while he lay helpless, hundreds of miles away, was unbearable for him, and on the afternoon of July 9, Kennedy returned, against medical advice, vowing that Medicare would not be slashed because of his failing health. It was his first vote since the diagnosis.

He walked slowly on to the Senate floor and the chamber erupted. Colleagues on both sides of the aisle rose to give the Liberal Lion a standing ovation. It was, said several senators afterward, the most moving scene they had ever witnessed on the Senate floor.

Kennedy raised both his hands toward the Senate president's desk, took a deep breath, and belted out: "Aye!"

www.huffingtonpost.com

"Had Teddy never driven that car the same people who hated him when he died would have anyway."

Yeah but that girl he killed would still be alive. Or maybe if he tried to help her she would be anyway....

I don't get your defense: "People hated him before he killed a girl and lied about it so he's a good guy..."

Riiiiight.

Fuck public option---this country needs single payer. Obama wimped out. We need a President with the courage to stand up to these punk cons.


By Peter S. Canellos
Globe Staff / August 26, 2009

Ted Kennedy played a leading role in perhaps the greatest political drama of the 20th century - the dawning of the New Frontier and the soul-crushing assassinations that followed - but he will be remembered by history for his legislative achievements in health care, education, civil rights, and immigration.

The fact that his tangible accomplishments transcended his mythic role in the Kennedy drama attests to the vast extent of his legislative impact. In each of four areas, he dominated legislative politics for more than four decades, spanning ten presidencies, and played a large role in transforming the government's relationship to the people.

Bill by bill, provision by provision, he expanded government health support to millions of children and the elderly, helped millions more go to college, opened the immigration doors to millions of new Americans from continents other than Europe, and protected the civil rights bulwark of the '60s through a long period of conservative domination.

And by the time his life ended yesterday, surrounded by loved ones in a gentle scene that contrasted sharply with the violent deaths of his brothers, Ted Kennedy had built a nuts-and-bolts legacy to stand beside that of his presidential brother as a figure of hope and his senatorial brother as a figure of compassion.

excerpts

www.boston.com

"People hated him before he killed a girl and lied about it so he's a good guy..."

That's what is going on his tombstone.

-what did he do other than sponsor bills that any other democrat in his place would have sponsored?

More twit than lawyer, Lil' Joey thinks asinine questions like the above are somehow "smart", instead of overly obvious loaded questions with no meaning at all.

Did George Washington fight any war that any other General would not have?

F'ing moron.


If nothing else, the man dedicated his life to serving this country. Agree with his politics or not, he stood for what he believed regardless of the polls and that is rare in Washington.


Youth is the quality that we normally associate with the Kennedys, yet it was Ted Kennedy's longevity that made him such an irrepressible force on Capitol Hill.

Near universal is the view that he was Washington's most influential lawmaker of the past 50 years, which is all the more remarkable given that he was such a polarising politician.

Civil rights. Disability rights. The minimum wage. Immigration. Education. Campaign finance reform. And his signature issue, healthcare. Most, if not all, of the landmark progressive legislative of the past five decades has his imprint all over it.

While it was his passion for social justice that won him the epithet "Lion of the Senate", it was his detailed grasp of that institution's obscure rules and procedures which helped explain his prolific success.

much more

news.bbc.co.uk

His life should no more be defined by a tragic car accident than Laura Bush's should. They both made tragic mistakes that they overcame and tried to do good. If an entire life can be summed up by a single event of one's youth, then we are all screwed when it comes to the historical record.

#276 | Posted by Corky at 2009-08-26 10:51 AM

The article you post is vague - it just says he "achieved" in those areas without mentioning any specific bills or acts that he wrote and that helped people. If all he ever did was sponsor democratic bills and vote "yes" for the democrat agenda, then those are things that any democrat who didn't kill a woman would have done.

Comparisons to George Washington are stupid since fighting in a war is not something anyone in his spot would do. If the only thing Kennedy did was sponsor lefty bills and vote "yes," then he is no better than Roland Burris who does the same thing. Worse, in fact, since he killed a woman.

Kennedy killed one person

Bush killed hundreds of thousands. Men--women--children--pregnant women and their fetuses. Decapitated--blown to pieces--burned alive--crushed--shot. Add in the maimed--the lost limbs--the disfigured...

Now tell me who the cons think is the bigger monster.

I bet his seat in the senate is still warm.

If all he ever did was sponsor democratic bills and vote "yes" for the democrat agenda, then those are things that any democrat who didn't kill a woman would have done.

It was more than that. He had influence, connections, and knowledge of how government works that made his support mean something. Lots of Senators support bills, but very few are national motivators for support. He was one of those names.

Kennedy killed one person

Bush killed hundreds of thousands. Men--women--children--pregnant women and their fetuses. Decapitated--blown to pieces--burned alive--crushed--shot. Add in the maimed--the lost limbs--the disfigured...

Now tell me who the cons think is the bigger monster.

Wow...what a compelling argument.

Nancy Reagan, former US First Lady

"Given our political differences, people are sometimes surprised by how close Ronnie and I have been to the Kennedy family. In recent years, Ted and I found our common ground in stem cell research, and I considered him an ally and a dear friend. I will miss him."

President Obama

"Michelle and I were heartbroken to learn this morning of the death of our dear friend, Senator Ted Kennedy. For five decades, virtually every major piece of legislation to advance the civil rights, health and economic well being of the American people bore his name and resulted from his efforts. ... An important chapter in our history has come to an end. Our country has lost a great leader, who picked up the torch of his fallen brothers and became the greatest United States Senator of our time."

Gordon Brown

"Senator Edward Kennedy will be mourned not just in America but in every continent. He is admired around the world as the Senator of Senators. He led the world in championing children's education and health care, and believed that every single child should have the chance to realise their potential to the full. I am proud to have counted him as a friend and proud that the United Kingdom recognised his service earlier this year with the award of an honorary knighthood."

Arnold Schwarzenegger, Republican Governor of California and husband of Kennedy's niece Maria Shriver

"He was known to the world as the Lion of the Senate, a champion of social justice and a political icon .... Teddy inspired our country through his dedication to health care reform, his commitment to social justice, and his devotion to a life of public service."

Tony Blair, former Prime Minister

"I saw his focus and determination first hand in Northern Ireland where his passionate commitment was matched with a practical understanding of what needed to be done to bring about peace and to sustain it. I was delighted he could join us in Belfast the day devolved government was restored."

Brian Cowen, Irish Prime Minister

"Ted hailed from a most famous Irish-American family, and through his own endeavours and achievement, he has added further lustre to the reputation of a great family ... In good days and bad, Ted Kennedy worked valiantly for the cause of peace on this island. He played a particularly important role in the formative days of the Northern Ireland Peace Process in the early to mid-1990s. ...Today, America has lost a great and respected statesman and Ireland has lost a long-standing and true friend."

Binyamin Netanyahu, Israeli Prime Minister

"(Senator) Kennedy has been a friend for 30 years, a great American patriot, a great champion of a better world, a great friend of Israel. He will be sorely missed."

Giorgio Napolitano, President of Italy

"A great protagonist of American public life has disappeared, a combative and coherent interpreter of the role of the U.S. Congress, a constant defender of that democratic balance and the guarantees of freedom which have given strength and prestige to his country. In this sense, Ted Kennedy has left a profound mark and deserves the homage of the free world."

Republican Senator Orrin Hatch

"Ted Kennedy was an iconic, larger than life United States senator whose influence cannot be overstated. Many have come before, and many will come after, but Ted Kennedy's name will always be remembered as someone who lived and breathed the United States Senate and the work completed within its chamber."

"In 1989 the European paparazzi stalked him on a vacation there and photographed him having sex on a motorboat."

Your just pissed it wasn't with a man or an intern like your heroes.....

LM

Corky, Internet Douche

"He was too rich to live in my zip code and did so much to make up for killing a woman that her death doesn't really matter anymore."


Lil' Joey makes the inane argument that any Dem Sen could have accomplished what TK did.

So then, why didn't they?

#291 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2009-08-26 11:07 AM | Reply | Flag- Everyone's favorite cream-faced Bukkake Boy.... who else would we all cream on?

www.youtube.com

Gwad, what a gay state MA is!


Kennedy killed one person

Bush killed hundreds of thousands. Men--women--children--pregnant women and their fetuses. Decapitated--blown to pieces--burned alive--crushed--shot. Add in the maimed--the lost limbs--the disfigured...

Now tell me who the cons think is the bigger monster.

Wow...what a compelling argument.

#286 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2009-08-26 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag

I missed your answer---can I take a guess?

;-)

#291 | Posted by IraqiBukkake at 2009-08-26 11:07 AM | Reply | Flag: Pretends the girl's death really matters to him...... instead of just being a partisan political talking point

"So then, why didn't they?"

My argument is that they did, because he had very few individual accomplishments, if any. Did he write any of the bills you claim are "accomplishments?" If all he did is sponsor a bill, then he is no better than any other sponsor.

#295 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-26 11:14 AM | Reply | Flag: Killed a Martian.

If all he did is sponsor a bill, then he is no better than any other sponsor.

That is not really true. Maybe it was due to his name and the accomplishments of his brothers, or maybe it was due to their tragic fates, or his oratory skills, but his support of a bill did make a huge difference.

RIP Sen. Kennedy

I missed your answer---can I take a guess?

;-)

I get your point...here's an analogy:

Teddy is to Dubya as Charles Graner is to the Taleban

rip my ass

condolances to the family but here's hoping the memory of mary jo kopechne haunts him for all eternity..


On Joe's planet, the world will have the same reaction when Chuck Grassley passes, roflmfao.

and the bullshit has already started

robt byrd has already asked that the health care bill be renamed in the memory of ted kennedy

cheap emotionalism to get thier bullshit passed..

I missed your answer---can I take a guess?

#295 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-26 11:14 AM

LOL, Butt-hurtBob asking for an answer? Last time I gave him one of those I ended up his "list." Don't bother.

"cheap emotionalism to get thier bullshit passed.."

Like raising the terror level before elections even though there was no reason too.....

LM

afkabl2, you got it. There is nothing to celebrate here. The fucking bastard died on purpose to get this bill through.

"the world will have the same reaction"

What difference does it make what reaction "the world" has? The world is full of morons. My argument is that there is no basis for the reaction in this case. You have provided zero substantive proof that said reaction is merited. Until you prove that Ted Kennedy came up with ideas on his own that were passed into law, he was nothing more than a sponsor and yes-man for the Democrat agenda. There are plenty of those - they just haven't killed anyone.

"I don't get your defense: "People hated him before he killed a girl and lied about it so he's a good guy..."

How about that the folks who hate him supposedly for the death of that girl do so not because they actually know all the facts of that case but because they need an excuse to express hatred which, were it not for Mary Jo, would be traced back to the Civil Rights bill which is the basis for most of the Kennedy hatred in this country.
That's the dirty little secret that the right doesn't like to acknowledge.

B.I.H. Senator Kennedy

"Lil' Joey makes the inane argument that any Dem Sen could have accomplished what TK did.


So then, why didn't they?"


Anyone who served as a Senator as long as him would have to try not to accomplish as much as him. His "accomplishments" seem to be showing up and voting.



#309 | Posted by danni at 2009-08-26 11:25 AM | Reply | Flag:DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER


"Kennedy killed one person


Bush killed hundreds of thousands. Men--women--children--pregnant women and their fetuses. Decapitated--blown to pieces--burned alive--crushed--shot. Add in the maimed--the lost limbs--the disfigured...


Now tell me who the cons think is the bigger monster."

answer: Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson. I mean acording to your logic Truman/Johnson killed hundreds of thousands. Men--women--children--pregnant women and their fetuses. Decapitated--blown to pieces--burned alive--crushed--shot. Add in the maimed--the lost limbs--the disfigured...

-robt byrd has already asked that the health care bill be renamed in the memory of ted kennedy


Amen!

Ironically, it may well be that his passing will re-invigorate progressives to finish what TK helped start.

The GOP fought tooth and nail against Social Security and tried to kill Medicare in it's crib, programs that America would never vote against now.

Perhaps universal health care instead of corporate greed will win out in spite of TK's passing, not fail because of it.


RIP to an incredibly flawed person. Character challenged is being nice and because he is now passed on.

Did he make it up? Did he do enough in the rest of his life to make up for the horrible day when Mary Jo died and he lied?

I have to say God is the decider on that one.

And folks villify MJ but don't do the same for Ted. I guess they are called hypocrites.

Then the comparison with Laura Bush--Please...lol


And the dems won't pass up lionizing this guy in their attempts to pass HCR. Think Wellstone. No death should go by without making a political point to get something for nothing.

Oh here we go again with the race card.

Yeah Danni, and the real reason you hate Lieberman is due to your anti-semitism.

Hey Danni, you fucking retard...LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act into law. Guess what side of the aisle he was on?

The GOP fought tooth and nail against Social Security and tried to kill Medicare in it's crib, programs that America would never vote against now.


Perhaps universal health care instead of corporate greed will win out in spite of TK's passing, not fail because of it.



#314 | Posted by Corky


That's the thing about soft tyranny--it creeps in and does so slowly. Then you wake up and your liberty and freedom are gone.

You never hear hatred against LBJ, a dem and supporter of the bill. Fucking Danni and her race card bullshit.

Ironically, it may well be that his passing will re-invigorate progressives to finish what TK helped start.

Wouldn't it be just like him to drop dead just to get a bill passed?

#308 | Posted by JOE at 2009-08-26 11:24 AM | Reply | Flag: I have picked my idiotic position of the day, as I do most days, and despite all the evidence to the contrary, I will continue to pettifog the issue.

Then the comparison with Laura Bush--Please...lol

That is a funny one indeed. Did Laura leave the scene and call a lawyer before calling for rescue? Teddy was looking out for #1 when he drove off that bridge -- another human's life be damned.

They could carve him up and feed a few hundred hungry children.

I did not agree with......well, anything he did or believed in I don't think but, as a human with frailties of my own and staring at eternity one day myself, I can only hope and pray he made peace with God prior to passing and that Mary Jo met him on the other side and embraced him in forgiveness.

To the Kennedy family, our prayers are with you.


afkabl2, you got it. There is nothing to celebrate here. The fucking bastard died on purpose to get this bill through.

#307 | Posted by member2586 at 2009-08-26

well I dont know about that but we WILL ALL SEE rush's prediction come true and in fact byrd has already started it

RHOM TO BLUE DOGS..

"come on people, you dont want kennedy's death to go to waiste"
"vote FOR govt takeover....in the name of ted kennedy"...

quotes are of course a prediction of mine and not actual quotes...............YET!!!!

-Wouldn't it be just like him to drop dead just to get a bill passed?

He'd be proud!

And, stranger things have happened.

-soft tyranny

You lost your panties again, Murph?

Like raising the terror level before elections even though there was no reason too.....


LM


#306 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel at


you are ignorant of one fact IF you are referring to the ridge book

the level was NOT raised at that particular time according to reports....

"Yeah Danni, and the real reason you hate Lieberman is due to your anti-semitism."

Even you know better than that. Hey, did you check out the thread on Back Page about Iraq becoming a virtual colony of Iran???

Good old Joe helped make it happen!

LOL, Butt-hurtBob asking for an answer? Last time I gave him one of those I ended up his "list." Don't bother.

#305 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE
--------------------
You'd wind up on his list anyways because your not drinking liberal koolaid.

Lonnie

Here Danni, you want to see racism and the Civil Rights Act?

How about the morning of June 10th, 1964? What's when Democratic Senator Robert Byrd completed a 14 hour and 13 minute address opposing the act.

Fucking hypocrite, history re-writing, ignorant cunt that you are.

#321 | Posted by Corky at 2009-08-26 11:29 AM | Reply | Flag: Unable to Produce One Accomplishment any other Hack Couldn't Have Done

Then the comparison with Laura Bush--Please...lol

Pretty apt comparison...Laura just happened to T-bone the star quarterback ex-boyfriend and his girlfriend by running a stop sign.

"You never hear hatred against LBJ, a dem and supporter of the bill. Fucking Danni and her race card bullshit."

LBJ would now be reviled by the right because of civil rights AS HE WAS AT THE TIME but his Vietnam war became the primary thing he is remembered for, unfortunately for him and he lived to greatly regret it.

"His life should no more be defined by a tragic car accident than Laura Bush's should. They both made tragic mistakes that they overcame and tried to do good."

Laura Bush was a teenager who ran a stop sign, Ted was a 38 year old U.S. Senator.

Was Byrd still a kkklan member then?

-Laura just happened to T-bone the star quarterback ex-boyfriend and his girlfriend by running a stop sign.

#333 | Posted by IraqiBukkake - Who was there and knows for a fact that Laura wasn't so pissed she just hit the accelerator when she saw him coming.


How about that the folks who hate him supposedly for the death of that girl do so not because they actually know all the facts of that case but because they need an excuse to express hatred which, were it not for Mary Jo, would be traced back to the Civil Rights bill which is the basis for most of the Kennedy hatred in this country.
That's the dirty little secret that the right doesn't like to acknowledge.

#309 | Posted by danni
---------------------
Really? Last time I checked, larger percentages of Republicans passed the civil rights bill. Your point has already been disproved.

Lonnie

Kennedy killed one person

Bush killed hundreds of thousands. Men--women--children--pregnant women and their fetuses. Decapitated--blown to pieces--burned alive--crushed--shot. Add in the maimed--the lost limbs--the disfigured...

Now tell me who the cons think is the bigger monster."

answer: Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson. I mean acording to your logic Truman/Johnson killed hundreds of thousands. Men--women--children--pregnant women and their fetuses. Decapitated--blown to pieces--burned alive--crushed--shot. Add in the maimed--the lost limbs--the disfigured...

#313 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2009-08-26 11:26 AM | Reply | Flag:


Truman did it in time of war---that doesn't count. LBJ and BUSH---both mass murderers, and should have been tried for treason.

So--I'll add LBJ to be fair.


Kennedy killed one person

Bush and LBJ killed hundreds of thousands. Men--women--children--pregnant women and their fetuses. Decapitated--blown to pieces--burned alive--crushed--shot. Add in the maimed--the lost limbs--the disfigured...

Now tell me who the cons think is the biggest monster.

"How about the morning of June 10th, 1964? What's when Democratic Senator Robert Byrd completed a 14 hour and 13 minute address opposing the act."

I never voted for him once. Never even lived in his state and haven't really ever defended him here though I do understand he changed his thinking on the subject. Later in life he became an opponent of the Iraq War which history has pretty much proven him right on.

#332 | Posted by JOE at 2009-08-26 11:33 AM | Reply | Flag: While most Americans understand the Sen's effect on legislation that he either wrote or supported, Lil' Joe is still wondering what they guy did to deserve all the accolades.

OF course. Lil' Joe is still wondering who is going to tie his shoes for him this morning.

Here we go again. More inordinate coverage of another Kennedy event. MSNBC is going to have a fawning program about the Kennedy clan airing tomorrow (the network cynically anticipated Edward's demise and hoped to capitalize on it). Eunice's death and funeral was way over covered. It goes on and on

Edward Kennedy was the brother of a President, who has been deified by the press and star struck biographers, but was one that was mediocre at best. JFK's tragic death should not have translated his and his family's legacy into unjustified glorification, although the Kennedy's and their wealth did their best to nurture the myth.

Hopefully, the Kennedy myth (much of which is fabrication and fiction) disappear now.

Let the Senator rest in peace. He died in a horrible way. Be respectful.

Ted Kennedy led an exemplary life after his fatal automobile accident and did more to help his fellow man than nearly anyone esle in the last 50 years.

Laura Bush married an alcoholic failed cheerleader and watched him screw up everything he touched. She ignored his homosexual affairs with KKKarl Rove, Jeff Gannon and who knows how man other faggots. She enabled the man who did more to harm humanity than anyone in the past 10,000 years.

Pretty poor comparison all right.

Oh yeah Danni, and how is that whole war thing going with BHO?

Who was there and knows for a fact that Laura wasn't so pissed she just hit the accelerator when she saw him coming.

That's exactly what I'm saying, dumbass.

You're the partisan hack remember? I'm an equal opportunity offender.

"Really? Last time I checked, larger percentages of Republicans passed the civil rights bill. Your point has already been disproved."

Oh, I have not argument with you on that, but those Republicans are sadly mourning the death of Teddy Kennedy today, the bigots from the sixties and their younger buddies of today still focus on Chappaquiddick and ignore everything good that the Kennedys ever did. Are you old enough to remember when, in some parts of the country, just the name Kennedy was enough to start a fist fight and it did many times. That kind of hatred doesn't just go away. It's still there in many right wing lunatics' heads.

Karl Rove earned the name Turd Blossom after a night with Bush at the WH.

what bullshit...........notice how your part of bush becomes more of a national enquirer edition than real facts


and teds REAL legacy will never be forgotten by some of us

thrown out of harvard for being a cheat

mary jo's body in the car at the bottom of the lake...

"Oh yeah Danni, and how is that whole war thing going with BHO?"

I've already been complaining right here on DR about it, so blow it out your ass.

Hey Danni, I have news for you. The mention of the Kennedy name today will start a fist fight. Fucking Statist bastards.

- I'm an equal opportunity offender.


Just another turdblossom in the wind.

sure danni

reminding people of FACTS instead of glossing over it because of his last name

yeah thats real hatred

She enabled the man who did more to harm humanity than anyone in the past 10,000 years.

#343 | Posted by axe at 2009-08-26 11:39 AM

Not a terrible post until this line. Holy shit you're fucking retarded! About as smart as Kennedy's corpse!

Laughing my ass off. More harm to humanity than anyone in the past 10,000 years?

Typical Statist drama.

"Really? Last time I checked, larger percentages of Republicans passed the civil rights bill. Your point has already been disproved."

The only dems voting against the bill came from the South----these were known as the Dixiecrats, and were composed of people like Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond---who CHANGED PARTIES and became the heart of the republican party for the next 35 years.

To say it was dems that opposed the bill is misleading. Only cons voted against the bill---cons who were in the wrong party at the time.

You need to brush up on your history.

AND BArry is gonna have to use more than ted's memory to help

STUPAC...rep from minn says that unless they change language on abortion in bill that it means that obama either doesnt know whats in it or is 'intentionally misleading' the country .


AND rep from alabama...griffin says that he will NOT vote for pelosi as speaker again because of her divisive language during health care debate

---cons who were in the wrong party at the time.

Same cons who are now the major voting block of what's left of the Republican Party.

All right LoD,

Name ONE person in the past 10,000 years worse than Smirky the Wonder Chimp in the human rights department. Or anyone hated by more people than him (Dickless doesn't count since he was Smirky's puppeteer.)

Only cons voted against the bill---cons who were in the wrong party at the time.


You need to brush up on your history.


#356 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-26 11:47 AM | Reply | Fl

you are not wrong on the names you listed but the argument when delay was being falsly accused by the guy in austin was just the opposite or at least ignored when talking about his 'past targets'...

What a beautiful day! The sun is up, clear sky and temperature perfect. Oh, Ted Kennedy is dead, too.
50 Million children are waiting to ask him why he fought to make sure they could be aborted.

Name ONE person in the past 10,000 years worse than Smirky the Wonder Chimp in the human rights department. Or anyone hated by more people than him (Dickless doesn't count since he was Smirky's puppeteer.)

#359 | Posted by axe at 2009


not directed to me but here's one answer.

africa...obama has done NOTHING but go there to get idolized while bush saved thousands of lives there...

not to mention the millions of iraqies free today from one of the worst dictators of all time.,...

Axe, hmm...how about Vlad the Impaler? Stalin, Hitler, Mao...To tell you the truth, I probably would be sitting here writing all day.


What a beautiful day! The sun is up, clear sky and temperature perfect. Oh, Ted Kennedy is dead, too.
50 Million children are waiting to ask him why he fought to make sure they could be aborted.

#361 | Posted by Diablo at 2009


while I dont share your 'glee' I do hope that the first person to find him as he 'stepped' into whatever world he is now in was mary jo and she did whatever she felt like she needed to do....

Can we at least all come together to agree that Axe possibly has the most retarded post in the history of Drudge?

All right LoD,

Name ONE person in the past 10,000 years worse than Smirky the Wonder Chimp in the human rights department. Or anyone hated by more people than him (Dickless doesn't count since he was Smirky's puppeteer.)

#359 | Posted by axe at 2009-08-26 11:49 AM

Hitler.

Picture of Axe

RIP Ted. And thanks.


www.youtube.com

Butt-hurtBob asking for an answer? Last time I gave him one of those I ended up his "list."

Hey, ending up on THE LIST is the best reason to answer!

Only thing is that being on THE LIST is not a guarantee that da bOoB will ignore you as he promises. He just starts talking about you in third person using Jr. High School tactics. E.G. "Lisa, ask goatman to explain the youtube.com video"

"Really? Last time I checked, larger percentages of Republicans passed the civil rights bill. Your point has already been disproved."

Oh, I have not argument with you on that, but those Republicans are sadly mourning the death of Teddy Kennedy today, the bigots from the sixties and their younger buddies of today still focus on Chappaquiddick and ignore everything good that the Kennedys ever did. Are you old enough to remember when, in some parts of the country, just the name Kennedy was enough to start a fist fight and it did many times. That kind of hatred doesn't just go away. It's still there in many right wing lunatics' heads.

#347 | Posted by danni
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Not really. I agree with the civil rights bill but don't like career politicians PERIOD! My philosophy is that they are hurting the country because they are out of touch. Kennedy is no exception!!

Lonnie


On a positive note, TK did live long enough to see the GOP, who had no qualms about taking in the South when Dems ditched them over Civil Rights, be hoisted quite high on their own petard.

"Ding Dong the Wich is Dead"............ the song never had such a wonderful meaning!!!!


Can we at least all come together to agree that Axe possibly has the most retarded post in the history of Drudge?

#365 | Posted by brentrice1 at 2009-08-26 11:52 AM

I think so. Sorry Axe, but you really flew over the shark on that one.


RIP Ted. And thanks.



www.youtube.com

#367 | Posted by briwo at 2009-08-2


ALLRIGHT......the thread is almost complete..

a song about teddy and so where are the obligatory lyrics?

Byrd suggests naming the govt healthcare takeover bill after Kennedy-

fitting -

cuz its gonna croak just like 'ol Ted.

www.politico.com


For Joe Blow


6. According to Kennedy's office by 2008 some 2,500 bills were proposed under Kennedy's direction -- more than 300 became law -- as had 550 bills that he co-sponsored.

Ted Kennedy Legislative Accomplishments

abcnews.go.com

"bigots from the sixties and their younger buddies of today still focus on Chappaquiddick and ignore everything good that the Kennedys ever did."

If you disliked some rich white guy who used his power to avoid the consequences of killing a woman, you're a racist?

LOL. He and I are the same race, you can rest assured my dislike of him isn't racial.

Every one of you idiots know that if he didn't have a D after his name, you'd correctly call him scum.

You've traded party loyalty for common decency. You should be ashamed but I know you're too far gone for that.

Kennedy is no exception!!


Lonnie

#369 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2009-08-26 11:54 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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ah COME ON...he was first elected in special election in 62 on his brothers coattails and stayed there for only 47 years..

what possible problems could that have caused??

10 Things You Probably Don't Know About Ted Kennedy

1. Ted Kennedy was the 9th of nine children -- now, only one member of that generation survives -- Jean Kennedy Smith. Those nine children produced 30 offspring (including Patrick Bouvier Kennedy who only lived 2 days.) Rose and Joseph P. Kennedy are the great grandparents of 69 people. (Visit ABC News' special section on Sen. Ted Kennedy)

2. As a child his family called him "Eddie" and some of his sisters continued to call him that as an adult.

3. His brother Jack -- the future president -- wrote a letter to his mother at the time of Ted's birth asking if he could be godfather of the new baby. Senator Kennedy kept that letter framed in his office.

4. His family moved often during his childhood -- including to London in 1938 when his father was named Ambassador to the Court of St. James. Ted went to ten different schools by the time he was 11 yrs. old.

5. He gave a moving and memorable eulogy at his brother Bobby's funeral -- including this quote: "As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched, and sought to touch him, some men see things as they are and why, I dreamed things that never were and say why not?" That quote was a paraphrase from a George Bernard Shaw play "Back to Methuselah." (Watch video of historic Kennedy moments)

6. According to Kennedy's office by 2008 some 2,500 bills were proposed under Kennedy's direction -- more than 300 became law -- as had 550 bills that he co-sponsored.

7. Senator Kennedy took his Portuguese Water Dog "Splash" to work with him at the Senate. In 2006 they co-authored "My Senator and Me: A Dog's Eye View of Washington D.C." Splash has been with Senator Kennedy since March 2000. Sunny is Splash's niece. Kennedy gave the Obama family a Portuguese Water Dog -- First Dog "Bo".

8. The Kennedy family has had a long battle with cancer: Ted Kennedy Jr. lost a leg to bone cancer in 1973. Patrick Kennedy had a non cancerous tumor removed from his spine in 1988. Kara Kennedy Allen (Ted's daughter) was diagnosed in December 2002 with lung cancer. Doctor's told her it was inoperable -- but she had surgery and chemotherapy and is healthy today. Joan Kennedy (the Senator's first wife) was treated for breast cancer in 2005.

9. Kennedy has been the family's patriarch since 1968. In addition to Bobby he has eulogized his parents, his nephews (including John Jr.), his sister-in-law Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and brother-in-law Stephen Smith. He also was there for numerous happy events -- escorting nieces Caroline, Kathleen, and Courtney Kennedy, Kym and Amanda Smith and his own daughter Kara on their wedding days. (See photos of Sen. Ted Kennedy's life)

10. In 2006 Vanity Fair magazine asked Kennedy "What is your idea of perfect happiness?" His response: "Sailing on Mya with Vicki at my side and my dogs, Splash and Sunny, at my feet. And, of course, a Democrat in the White House and regaining our majority in the Senate."

blogs.abcnews.com

The only dems voting against the bill came from the South----these were known as the Dixiecrats, and were composed of people like Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond---who CHANGED PARTIES and became the heart of the republican party for the next 35 years.

To say it was dems that opposed the bill is misleading. Only cons voted against the bill---cons who were in the wrong party at the time.

You need to brush up on your history.

#356 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob
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I don't give a shit where they came from. They were registered Democrats that opposed the bill. That's just as bad as you liberals lamenting on Robert Byrd being a champion of civil rights when he was a grand wizard of the KKK and he gave a 14 hour speech on why they should vote down the bill.

Lonnie


Boo-Hooo,sob,gnash,wail...aw fuck it. He was scum anyway.


Good riddance.

#1 | Posted by briwo at 2009-08-18 12:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Typical Statist drama."

Statist??? could use a definition, excuse my ignorance, not real familiar with this term.

Kennedy gets a pass on the drunk thing from me. He lost three brothers in service to this country- one in war and two assignated within five years. That is pretty heavy shit to deal with.

Beefers has no comment other then to say that Teddy did his best to bring this country to the left....

He was one colorful bastard......

I never agreed with a single one of his views....

I never liked the man after the Chapaqitic thing either....

After seeing the photos of the car in the water, I always thought he could have saved that girl if he had bothered to try....

Only God and Mary-Jo and Ted know for sure......

www.boston.com

Have a look... The rear door was probably no more than three feet under water....

damn corky...your ten points almost made me cry.

but you forgot about how the kennedy's got all that money and how the old man was 'hooked' to the mob...
and how those two things were rather important in the election of 1960....

Can we at least all come together to agree that Axe possibly has the most retarded post in the history of Drudge?

#365 | Posted by brentrice1 at 2009-08-26 11:52 AM

Sorry but it's going to take a hell of lot more then that to displace this champion of retardation:
______________________________ _

Typical lib bullshit.

Danni, how do you know the negros did not like being slaves and that the slave owners were not decent to them?

Posted by chickenrancher at 2009-08-23 12:21 PM | Reply

Now that is officially the most retarded post in DR history.

Have a look... The rear door was probably no more than three feet under water....


#383 | Posted by beefers at 2009-08-


at the time I didny buy it either.....but the police and the legal system did.,..and IM sure that his last name or his mother's lawyers had nothing to do with the outcome.........

#371

"The song never had such wonderful meaning"

That line will be used again by some liberal who will say it when Chaney or Bush dies.

The pathetic leaps of joy that are shown here when someone of the opposite party dies, sickens me.

Just got done defending Ted Kennedy to the missus, who wasn't happy about Chappaquiddick or the tales of drunken no-pants debauchery that came out in the William Kennedy Smith rape trial.

If I'd been in Massachusetts in the early '70s, I wouldn't have voted to re-elect Kennedy. But the voters did, again and again, and he took that second chance and made himself an effective advocate for the liberal causes that he believed in. He also became one of the go-to people for senators to cross the aisle and get something done. A lot of Republicans are talking today about his bipartisanship.

Kennedy also was the kind of person who'd reach out to his political antagonists when they were ailing. He helped Robert Novak -- who wrote and said many harsh things about him over the years -- when he got his brain tumor diagnosis and was struggling over the decision of whether to get surgery. That shows a fundamental human decency that all political junkies should aspire to. There are bigger things than partisan politics.

So all in all, I have to view Kennedy as a person who accomplished an enormous amount of good with the opportunity he had.

Though for some years Kennedy was viewed as a political lightweight who couldn't live up to the examples set by his brothers John and Robert, I think he achieved greatness as a political figure and was a worthy successor to them.

It's a sad day to lose him from Washington. I can't think of another American political figure who was a powerful leader during the '70s and was still in power today. It's truly the end of an era.

WHAT I do believe is that since he was married and she was not his wife that someone finding them together was the last thing his political career needed...but he DID get by it anyway didnt he??

asshole

OH SHIT

IM SORRY>..I forgot that when I post FACTUAL info on that incident that IM just full of hatred and dont like it that the pres is black

what WAS I thinking?


Biden's Emotional Kennedy Tribute: "It Was Never About Him" (VIDEO)

www.huffingtonpost.com


Couldn't agree more Rogers.

"but you forgot about how the kennedy's got all that money and how the old man was 'hooked' to the mob..."

I'm a little surprised that someone formerly known as Bushlover would be bringing up Kennedy's father.....considering the money Bush's Dad made off Hitler. Sort of pot calling the kettle black sort of thing. Probably not a coincidence that both men's sons tried to atone for the sins of their fathers by flying in WWII.


Kennedy gets a pass on the drunk thing from me. He lost three brothers in service to this country- one in war and two assignated within five years. That is pretty heavy shit to deal with.

#382 | Posted by kanrei at 2009


I understand..really I do..but it simply is no excuse for his drinking on the night of the killing of mary jo....

#391 That one is for you, Rogers.

"you are ignorant of one fact IF you are referring to the ridge book


the level was NOT raised at that particular time according to reports...."

I am not referring to ridge book, that is only when the right decided that maybe they should listen to the fact that DHS was pressured. Ridge is only the one to talk about it so far with "right wing" credibility.

LM

"and IM sure that his last name or his mother's lawyers had nothing to do with the outcome........."

or how he got into the Texas Air National Guard or how it was shoved under the rug when he went AWOL, or got busted for drunk driving.....

but you forgot about how the kennedy's got all that money and how the old man was 'hooked' to the mob...
and how those two things were rather important in the election of 1960....

#384 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-08-26 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

I sincerely wish Nixon had won in 1960--except for the Cuban Missile crisis. I believe if Nixon had been in office, there would have been a nuclear war. But let's assume nuclear war would have been avoided. Viet Nam would still have happened under Nixon, and he would have been reelected in 64. Then maybe the world would have been ready for JFK in 68, and Bobby in 76. Reagan would still have been a joke in 80 on a par with Palin of today.

Sometimes when you win, you lose.

I think some criticisms of Kennedy would be better made by someone who had never called themself Bushlover. But hey, that's just me.

"Ridge is only the one to talk about it so far with "right wing" credibility"

But, like Clarke and O'Neill before him, Ridge only has "credibility" to right wingers when he's agreeing with the echo chamber.

#394 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-08-26 12:07 PM | Reply | Flag: oh, stfu.... how many nights have these oh so sincere Mary Jo defenders been drunk enough that something similar might have happened to them? There, but for the grace of God, go you.


hurrrr i liek possicles

--AXE

Danni- Made up word, no ignorance on your part...this time :)

"more than 300 became law"

What were they? Did they help anyone? Or were they the meaningless sort of "non-binding" bills that, for example, proclaim March 30th as "child wellness day," or something of that nature?

There are plenty of meaningless bills passed by Congress. If you want to say Kennedy should be celebrated for his accomplishments, then a simple tally without any detail will not do. What were the 300 bills? Have they helped anyone?

Too bad Lee Harvey shot the wrong brother!!

~Seedy

"Wow, angry, ignorant and just plain wrong.

The rtard trifecta.

While MLK was a "brutha" he wasn't a brother to Ted like JFK and RFK.

K?

Be Well." -
Posted by dethspud

Good job genius!?!
James Earl Ray day is in January!!!

Neither angry, ignorant or just plain wrong.
Nor an "rtard"
Good ol' Teddy boy was a murderer, a liar, a union puppet, a drunk, an all around piece of human garbage.
So let's celebrate him as if he was this great savior of the country, JFK would be embarrassed of what Teddy boy has helped turn his party into.

BRENTRICE what do you mean by it???

Honest question, I don't understand it.

From the sound of it you are either against state's rights or against national sovereignity.

I'm a little surprised that someone formerly known as Bushlover would be bringing up Kennedy's father.....considering the money Bush's Dad made off Hitler. Sort of pot calling the kettle black sort of thing. Probably not a coincidence that both men's sons tried to atone for the sins of their fathers by flying in WWII.

#393 | Posted by danni at 2009-08-


well lets see...one is factual and the other is from a book by kitty kelly..

wow..cant figure it out either....

and even if true...what difference does it make..if what you say is all true then I officially dont condone it...

what say you??


"I truly, truly am distressed by his passing," Biden said haltingly. "You know, Teddy spent a lifetime working for a fair and more just America. For 36 years, I had the privilege of going to work every day and sitting next to him and being witness to history. ... He restored my sense of idealism."

"He was never defeatist," Biden said. "He never was petty. Never was petty. He was never small. And in the process of his doing, he made everybody he worked with bigger, both his adversaries, as well as his allies ... He changed the circumstances of tens of millions of Americans and in a literal sense literally, literally. he changed the circumstances ... not only the physical circumstances, he changed how they looked at themselves and how they looked at one another." Later he added, "The unique thing about Teddy was he was never about him. It was always about you. It was never about him."

I sincerely wish Nixon had won in 1960--except for the Cuban Missile crisis. I believe if Nixon had been in office, there would have been a nuclear war. But let's assume nuclear war would have been avoided. Viet Nam would still have happened under Nixon, and he would have been reelected in 64. Then maybe the world would have been ready for JFK in 68, and Bobby in 76. Reagan would still have been a joke in 80 on a par with Palin of today.


Sometimes when you win, you lose.

#398 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-08-26 12:11


wow...nice job bob...maybe you could borrow my 'wayback machine' .....

and if jfk had not used the mob to get elected and if he had told bobby not to go after them, he may not have been assasinated either...

#404 | Posted by JOE at 2009-08-26 12:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Forget Google, can't even click on link

394 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-08-26 12:07 PM | Reply | Flag: oh, stfu.... how many nights have these oh so sincere Mary Jo defenders been drunk enough that something similar might have happened to them? There, but for the grace of God, go you.



#401 | Posted by Corky at 2009


maybe so but how many people would have gotten away with it>?

#405 | Posted by seedeez2 at 2009-08-26 12:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Confused by so many voices in his head

"and if he had told bobby not to go after them, he may not have been assasinated either..."

That is actually probably true.

"and if he had told bobby not to go after them, he may not have been assasinated either..."

That is actually probably true.

even though its because someone died..its been a while since we have had one of these threads that grows by the second..

is anyone else's head spinning?

(enter lame bullshit excuse for joke here..


)

so TRUE you posted it twice huh..LOL I know.
im teasing

Danni- What I meant to imply was that the word "liberal" in the classic meaning was the opposite of authoritarian. The modern liberal's stance on central government is more State oriented (as in The State).

Kind of the same as how "conservative" is pretty misleading.

#411 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-08-26 12:18 PM | Reply | Flag: At least honest in acknowledging that he is only concerned that someone may have gotten away with something that he might not have.


Then the comparison with Laura Bush--Please...lol


Pretty apt comparison...Laura just happened to T-bone the star quarterback ex-boyfriend and his girlfriend by running a stop sign.

#333 | Posted by IraqiBukkake


Was she drunk? Did she flee the scene? Did she lie about it?

Ted has a very very poor character--worse on the moral compass.

#385 | Posted by panchovilla at 2009-08-26 12:04 PM
Ouch! Comparing
Axe to ChickenRancher? That's got to hurt, but he earned it.

"maybe so but how many people would have gotten away with it>?"

How many people could have been Hitler's banker, participate in a coup against the government of the United States and later be elected Senator???

is anyone else's head spinning?
#415 | Posted by afkabl2

No, just yours.
www.youtube.com

"Danni- What I meant to imply was that the word "liberal" in the classic meaning was the opposite of authoritarian. The modern liberal's stance on central government is more State oriented (as in The State)."

OK now I get it.


"Typical Statist drama."


Statist??? could use a definition, excuse my ignorance, not real familiar with this term.

#381 | Posted by danni


Look in the mirror.


is anyone else's head spinning?
#415 | Posted by afkabl2


No, just yours.
www.youtube.com

#422 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009


gee I was expecting something a little better than this...and from you..

what a hack....

Ted has a very very poor character--worse on the moral compass.

#419 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-08-26 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag: Compassionate, forgiving Christian who takes a lifetime's work into account instead of one day Flag

Then Murphy you are a Corporatist.

Did he rick-roll you?

how many nights have these oh so sincere Mary Jo defenders been drunk enough that something similar might have happened to them? There, but for the grace of God, go you.

#401 | Posted by Corky at 2009
--------------------
I've always stayed home or walked to a bar to have a few drinks so I can't relate.

Lonnie

Report is Kennedy will be buried with his brothers at Arlington National Cemetery (www.google.com).

what a hack....
#425 | Posted by afkabl2 | Flag: Slowly He Turns

See Danni, some things just require new words!

-I've always

Always? Really?

Liar.

ted kennedy dead at 77

and speaking of another DEMOCRAT LIAR AND CHEAT..

charly rangel admits to "LOSING TRACK" of $780,000 on tax return...an AMENDED return...


how can you lose track of a quarter of a mill..

oh if you are a democrat these days...thats perfectedly reasonable........you know like leaving the scene of a crime and getting away with it and getting thrown out of harvard and still being credible on anything


''There was no imminent threat. This was made up in Texas,
announced in January to the Republican leadership that war
was going to take place and was going to be good politically.
This whole thing was a fraud.
Edward Kennedy

#252 | Posted by truthhurts
-------------------
This is why we don't want the Government to run anything that we can do ourselves, like Health Care

Aflac is just pissed because when one of the leaders of the Uber wingnut party dies, he thinks no one gives a shit.

Well Rusty, you couldn't be more wrong. I mean when Jesse Helms, and, when Jerry Falwell died my wife and I went out and celebrated, er..... mourned over a couple of nice Italian dinners.

DANNI

straight from wekopedia


A political viewpoint "that sovereignty is vested not in the people but in the national state, and that all individuals and associations exist only to enhance the power, the prestige, and the well-being of the state. The fascist concept of statism repudiates individualism and exalts the nation as an organic body headed by the Supreme Leader and nurtured by unity, force, and discipline."[3]

Sorry Axe, but you really flew over the shark on that one.

Axe is the poster child for how badly blind partisanship can fuck a person up.

Can you imagine Teddy saying anything remotely like this. Truly if he was a cast somehow in The Godfather as a Corleone son he would of been Fredo.

"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."

John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, president's news conference

charly rangel admits to "LOSING TRACK" of $780,000 on tax return...
how can you lose track of a quarter of a mill..
#434 | Posted by afkabl2

The same way you just lost track of half a mil?

AFKABL2 you're shitting me? It is a real word?

I mean when Jesse Helms, and, when Jerry Falwell died my wife and I went out and celebrated, er..... mourned over a couple of nice Italian dinners.

#436 | Posted by briwo at 2009-08-26 12:28 PM | Reply | Flag:


wouldnt be at all surprised but I dont join anyone in celebrating the death of anyone...just repeating factst that liberal historians are set to change and deny

-This is why we don't want the Government to run anything that we can do ourselves, like Health Care

Yes, the status quo is working so, so well.

Multi-millionaires paying less in taxes than their secretaries because of tax breaks they already have could not give up 5 percent because that is "socilaism".

We are still surrounded by morons.

Was she drunk? Unknown, no test performed.


Did she flee the scene? No

Did she lie about it? Unknown and open to debate to this day


www.snopes.com

"socialism".

#434-I don't know, I'm still trying to figure out how Bushco could "LOSE TRACK" of 20 Billion dollars in Iraq.....TWICE!


AFKABL2 you're shitting me? It is a real word?

#441 | Posted by brentrice1 at 2009-08-26 12

search and you have a large choice to pick from...
resources that is..

it was made popular by the book on liberalism by mark levin

and THe defintiion is RIGHT On concerning todays govt of obama

Did she lie about it? Unknown and open to debate to this day


www.snopes.com

#444 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-08-26 12:32 PM | Reply


qa valient try but it wont work..
there is some differnce between a teenager running a red light and a grown man cheating on his wife and leaving the mistress for dead...

not even you can stretch that out....

#426 | Posted by Corky

You missed my other posts.

Danni -- Yes I am a capitalist. A believer in the free market, liberty and freedom for all.

there is some differnce between a teenager running a red light and a grown man cheating on his wife and leaving the mistress for dead...


not even you can stretch that out....

A sober Kennedy would not have done that, so now we are dealing with aftermath. As I said, the man lost three brothers in service to this country, two to assigns bullets, and he probably felt there was little reason not to expect the same end.

The two cases are relevant to each other because they are tragic mistakes made in youth that have haunted these people all their lives.

You missed my other posts.

#449 | Posted by MURPHY

God sometimes grants small favors..... now he if he could help me miss some blt posts....

Axe is the poster child for how badly blind partisanship can fuck a person up.

#438 | Posted by goatman at 2009-08-26 12:29 PM

He's also the poster child for down syndrome!

Well Rusty, you couldn't be more wrong. I mean when Jesse Helms, and, when Jerry Falwell died my wife and I went out and celebrated, er..... mourned over a couple of nice Italian dinners.

#436 | Posted by briwo
----------------
Well I guess we should all take briwo's example and celebrate tonight. Maybe I'll order some steak express at work tonight and have a few beers when I get home. Instead of killing a female, I'll just lay down in bed and pass gas on the wife.

Lonnie

"A political viewpoint "that sovereignty is vested not in the people but in the national state, and that all individuals and associations exist only to enhance the power, the prestige, and the well-being of the state. The fascist concept of statism repudiates individualism and exalts the nation as an organic body headed by the Supreme Leader and nurtured by unity, force, and discipline."[

Then that would hardly describe liberal Democrats who favor National Health Care because we believe that the state is there to serve the needs of the people not the other way around. Individual rights are more important to the liberal than to the conservative and now we want health care to be among them. So, the term "statist" would not describe either Ted Kennedy nor me.

Kanrei, there is a Bill Curtis documentary that I saw that all but sealed it in my mind that he didn't do it, but a cousin and a friend did.

The doc focused on what happened the morning after, there are many witnesses who saw him that morning and everything was normal until 2 men, both wet, came to the hotel where Ted was staying. This was the cousin and friend, they went up to Teds room and came back down 5 minutes later and the people who saw him said Ted was a "completely changed man" from the one who went upstairs.

It's a very good doc and convinced me, and I always thought he did it accidentally while getting a blowjob or something, he hit the shifter or the gas peddle and went off the dock.

Watch it if you see it listed.

I have no cable, but will check Hulu for it. THanks.

#454 See? There's the spirit!

I'm looking forward to when ole Pat Robertson kicks the bucket. Might have to out for some good Northwest Seafood that night.

The two cases are relevant to each other because they are tragic mistakes made in youth that have haunted these people all their lives.

#451 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-


so you excuse a united states senator because he was a young man who lost brothers..

aint buying it..

Just for the record, if Bush massacred women and children and fetuses, Sen. Kennedy was complicit.

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." (27 September 2002)

HULKAMANIA FOREVER

"Danni -- Yes I am a capitalist. A believer in the free market, liberty and freedom for all."

No, you are a corporatist who puts the welfare of corporations ahead of the welfare of citizens, who thinks corporations should have the same rights as citizens. I am a liberal who happens to also believe in capitalism, as did our founding fathers. They did not believe in the personhood of corporations and felt strongly that the power and even the length of time a corporate charter should be in force needed to be strictly limited.
If you believe that corporations should be allowed to hire lobbyists then you are a corporatist.
If you believe that corporations should have more rights than individuals in bankruptcy court you are a corporatist.
If you believe that the right of a corporation to supply health care insurance is more important than the need to actually provide health care to all citizens then you are a corporatist.

God sometimes grants small favors..... now he if he could help me miss some blt posts....

#452 | Posted by Corky at 2009


NOW YOUR TALKING.

not up to SA ROUGUE levels yet but your getting there

and that reminds me...havent heard from him lately...did he change his name or is on the 'lam"

459,
Read it again then again if you still think that is what I am saying. Then, if that doesn't help, goto RIF.org and see if they can help. IF not, give up.

Then that would hardly describe liberal Democrats who favor National Health Care because we believe that the state is there to serve the needs of the people not the other way around. Individual rights are more important to the liberal than to the conservative and now we want health care to be among them. So, the term "statist" would not describe either Ted Kennedy nor me.

#455 | Posted by danni at 2009-08


this may surprise you but I disagree completely

take into account all of the govt takeovers and all of the name calling from dem leaders to people opposed and this is EXACTLY what you get...

Just for the record, if Bush massacred women and children and fetuses, Sen. Kennedy was complicit.



and dems NEVER bring this up

how many cubans did jfk sacrifice in bay of pigs??

If you believe that the right of a corporation to supply health care insurance is more important than the need to actually provide health care to all citizens then you are a corporatist.

#461 | Posted by danni at 2009-08-26


one more time before I go for the am

how many poor people have created jobs and for sure to the amount created by those evil corporations of yours...

THE STATISTS in dc now are doing everything BUT whats needed to create jobs...heard an economist talk about this yesterday..

capital is the first thing needed..not govt regs..

#454 See? There's the spirit!

I'm looking forward to when ole Pat Robertson kicks the bucket. Might have to out for some good Northwest Seafood that night.

#458 | Posted by briwo at 2009-08-26 12:41 PM

Excellent, time to move past the faux outrage and start dancing on some graves!

-how many poor people have created jobs and for sure to the amount created by those evil corporations of yours...

It is small business that creates the most jobs, not large corporations.

The success in brainwashing Joe Six Pack into pimping for large corporations is a modern day miracle.

Does anyone find it morbid that the media was prepared with all of their readiness in putting out the video clips and life story crap ???

It's like they were on death watch.

Danni -- Yes I am a capitalist. A believer in the free market, liberty and freedom for all [excluding gay people, cannabis users and everyone else Murphy hates]


#450 | Posted by MURPHY

"how many poor people have created jobs and for sure to the amount created by those evil corporations of yours..."

Irrelevant. The founding fathers would never have supported huge corporations wielding so much power in America...I will guarantee you they would have been completely against health care being supplied to America via corporations. The teabaggers ought to read up on what the real Tea Party was a protest against. Clue here...it wasn't health care for all.

"Danni -- Yes I am a capitalist. A believer in the free market, liberty and freedom for all [excluding gay people, cannabis users and everyone else Murphy hates]"

So, should corporations be allowed to hire expensive lobbyists and make contributions to campaigns???

Should corporations be subject to the same bankruptcy laws as citizens???

No, you are a corporatist who puts the welfare of corporations ahead of the welfare of citizens, who thinks corporations should have the same rights as citizens. Danni

No Danni--I do not think or believe that.

And you need lessons in our founding fathers with the stuff you post around here.

A believer in the free market, liberty and freedom for all.

#450 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-08-26 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag


Do you realise that when this country was founded, the markets were as free as you wish them to be? It didn't work. Standard Oil ended up with more money and power the the United States government. Standard Oil had the capability of dominating all facets of the economy. They could have bought all the railroads---all auto manufacturing--all the new technology. Computers would all be manufactured by Standard Oil subsidiaries if not for government regulation and anti trust laws.

If you knew the history of the country, you wouldn't be calling for such nonsense. The present economic crunch is caused by the same thought---unrestricted greed by business.

But in your own country---there could be all the freedom you desire---and you wouldn't have any Kennedy's in your country's past. It's all good. All you and the cons need is the courage to join the millions upon millions who already yearn for a separate country. Support the cause you talk about. These people want the same things you want---you should team up with them.

www.texasnationalist.com

www.sonofthesouth.net

"It's like they were on death watch."

er...it wasn't exactly a surprise. He had brain cancer.

a modern day miracle..... of propoganda, that is, from the Goebbels/Rove Group

-er...it wasn't exactly a surprise.

You might be surprised at all the things that are a surprise to Murphy.

Irrelevant. The founding fathers would never have supported huge corporations wielding so much power in America...I will guarantee you they would have been completely against health care being supplied to America via corporations. The teabaggers ought to read up on what the real Tea Party was a protest against. Clue here...it wasn't health care for all.

#472 | Posted by danni at 2009


you could have said a lot of things but 'irrelevant' isnt one of them

thats just plain silly.,.....its NOT irrelevant since small business creates a large portion but the word 'small' is misused....it may be small compared to corporations but to the owner its anything but

and DONT LECTURE uS on what the tea party was about since you apparently dont know what THESE tea parties were and are about

they were and are about a govt that is spending and taxing our ass off and we are going to do something about it...

you are repeating media bullshit lies about them.////

Who's worse in your eye, a man who runs booze during prohibition or a man who does business with Hitler?

Posted by NO COMMONSENSE


Ted did that too? Not surprised....fat phoney lib....

#45 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2009-08-26 04:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Your smarmy reaction to a real question shows that you're simply a partisan hack.

The ones who try to scream that they're the biggest patriots are often the biggest frauds....much like you.


a modern day miracle..... of propoganda, that is, from the Goebbels/Rove Group

#477 | Posted by Corky at 2009

I thought we had a self imposed moratorium on the nazi references...or was that just OUR SIDE...

and I repeat the 'godwin law'...that whoever first brings up the nazi reference has LOST THE arguement

they were and are about a govt that is spending and taxing our ass off and we are going to do something about it...

#479 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-08-26 12:57 PM | Reply | Flag

What could be better than your own country? There would be no national debt--no libs--what's the problem? What is holding you back? That yellow streak?

Kennedy was drunk and left this women to die, so to make a comparison to Laura Bush is stretch

#212 | Posted by 90c2cab at 2009-08-26 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag:


Show me any part of what I said about Laura Bush that is inaccurate.

Was she drunk? Did she flee the scene? Did she lie about it?

Naw, she killed her ex in cold blood w/o a drop of alcohol in her system and with great deliberation.

She stayed around, called the cops, lied and sed it was an accident.

Nobody in the other car survived to claim otherwise and thus she got away with first degree murder.

Ted, otoh, was most likely drunk and had absolutely no intention to harm Ms Kopecnic.

Making unintentional vehicular manslaughter and drunk driving the worst of his crimes.

If ya really wanna play *that* game.

Actually Spud has no idea wot was in the heart of either Laura or Ted on those days and neither does anyone else here.

Is all speculation.

Be Well.

"they were and are about a govt that is spending and taxing our ass off and we are going to do something about it..."

Riiight. And Dick Armey and his Freedomwatch Organization which is funded by big health care are just figments of my imagination.
The majority of the attendees at the Tea Parties had their taxes cut by Obama. They are tools being manipulated by rich TV talk show hosts like that liar Glenn Beck. You can believe whatever you want but don't assume I'm as dumb as you are.

-what THESE tea parties were and are about

They are about brainwashed Joe Six Packs pimping for huge corporations that make fortunes based on screwing sick people.

Brainwashing to make the Goebbels/Rove crowd proud.

Except here in Naples where we have Rolex-wearing, Mercedes SUV driving Tea Baggers putting up pavilions on street corners to try to protect their tax breaks.

So, should corporations be allowed to hire expensive lobbyists and make contributions to campaigns???

#473 | Posted by danni at 2009-08-26 12:53 PM

Obama must think so; he let Big Pharm lobbyists in on crafting healthcare legislation.
President Obama's effort to overhaul the U.S. health system got an $80 billion shot in the arm from drugmakers. The pharmaceutical industry pledge includes $30 billion "that could be used" to provide discounts for medicines, said Reid H. Cherlin, a White House spokesman. That will help narrow a gap in Medicare drug coverage known as the doughnut hole. The allowances will encourage patients to remain on expensive brand-name medicines even when cheaper generic copies are available, Tim Anderson, an analyst with Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. in New York, said yesterday.

www.drudge.com

So, should corporations be allowed to hire expensive lobbyists and make contributions to campaigns???


Should corporations be subject to the same bankruptcy laws as citizens???

#473 | Posted by danni


There was an attempt at campaign finance--but fell short. Obama does not do any better.

There are many orgs who need a lobbyist--like United Way. But I think that lobbyists over reach and screw many over in the populace.


And until the Bush/Obama debacle corporations would have gone BK. Now Obama just fires the CEO and limit pay checks and will tax the shit out of us.

AIG should have gone BK--but they did not. GM and Chrysler should have gone BK--but they did not--too big to fail bs from Bush/Obama.

--------
And Null--I am for tradional marriage--sorry to disappoint you about the rights of gays--all for them to work, be in the military and change/make laws to change their partnerships.

I am for medicinal pot--posted that many times.

And here we go with the attacks--are we having fun yet? ;o)

"and I repeat the 'godwin law'...that whoever first brings up the nazi reference has LOST THE arguement"

I'm sure then that you would apply that same law to those who brought pictures of Barack Obama with the Hitler mustache to the town hall meetings.
Right?

The founding fathers would never have supported huge corporations wielding so much power in America...

#472 | Posted by danni at 2009-08-26 12:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Continues to be a focking idiot Flag

One of the enduring lessons of the Barbary campaigns was to never give in to outlaws, whether you call them pirates or terrorists. In the late 1700s, America paid significant blackmail for peace -- shelling out $990,000 to the Algerians alone at a time when national revenues totaled just $7 million.

Danni whose was being protected by these ransom payments, farmer joe or big merchants?

So what? related to the fact that Toad M Kennedy was worthless?

#47 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2009-08-26 04:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

"So What"?

Funny how you change your tune so quickly.

You go from bashing Kennedy because his father was a bootlegger to saying "so what" when told that your False-Prophets grandaddy was a Nazi-sympathizing war profiteer.....

.....but that's not nearly as bad as running some booze, right?

Yeah cutting taxes for folks at $13.00 a month is really cutting taxes.

"There are many orgs who need a lobbyist--like United Way. But I think that lobbyists over reach and screw many over in the populace."

You mean like health insurance companies giving millions to those opposed to the public option???

I'm sure then that you would apply that same law to those who brought pictures of Barack Obama with the Hitler mustache to the town hall meetings.
Right?

#489 | Posted by danni


And I don't seem to remember you crying out when the left were doing the same thing about Bush?


Go after the policies and leave Hitler out of it.

"Yeah cutting taxes for folks at $13.00 a month is really cutting taxes."

It was more like $13.00 per week and represented a significant cut when you consider how much those people actually pay in federal income tax. It was intended as an economic stimulus and guess what...the economy is beginning to recover.

"so you excuse a united states senator because he was a young man who lost brothers..

aint buying it.."

Neither am I...now we have to suffer through all the slobbering leftists shedding tears over this sot who cheated in college, killed a young staffer who he was probably banging, and spent most of his years in a drunken stupor. You'd think he was Mother Theresa or somebody who served humanity well. I'm only sorry because now we'll never get to know how much it cost to buy off the Kopechnes.

"Go after the policies and leave Hitler out of it."

But you didn't answer my question, by your logic those people have "lost the argument." I agree, they have. The gun toters too.

You mean like health insurance companies giving millions to those opposed to the public option???

#493 | Posted by danni at 2009-08-26 01:06 PM

Or drug companies giving billions to proponents of the public option to keep people on name brand meds?


Mentioning Goebbels in terms of propaganda is like mentioning Einstein in terms of physics.

I was complimenting Rove on his and other rightwing propagandists like Frank Lutz on their success in getting 30K a year folks to vote for the best interests of million dollar a year folks.

Only in America.

The founding fathers would never have supported huge corporations wielding so much power in America...
#472 | Posted by danni

Good point Slickster, just got done reading "Six Frigates", some of it was about how the newly formed US government needed to protect its trade ships from French, British, and Algerians pirates. Lots of corporate lobbying back then too.

SEN. TED KENNEDY TO BE BURIED ALONGSIDE BROTHERS ROBERT AND JOHN AT ARLINGTON
NATIONAL CEMETERY.

"Will there be an eternal full glass of Chivas Regal?"

"They should just cremate the old crook. All it would take is a wick and a match."


Sad day. Sen. Kennedy accomplished a lot for this country in the many decades he was in public service. I'm glad he was around for one last push to get a Democrat into the White House. His endorsement, and that of his niece Caroline, played an important role in Obama's primary victory.

#1 | Posted by rcade

You had me at "Sen. Kennedy accomplished alot..."

No, he accomplished nothing! Really.

His brother's did.

I would have more respect for him if he quit politics a long time ago.

You know, when everyone was telling him he was not accomplishing anything.

Anyone want to bet money that the name of the Health Care Bill is changed to the Ted Kennedy Memorial Bill?

Anyone want to bet money that the name of the Health Care Bill is changed to the Ted Kennedy Memorial Bill?

Would anyone like to bet money that the Health Care Bill will be renamed the Ted Kennedy Memorial Bill?


The Death of Ted Kennedy: The Brother Who Mattered Most

There was a time 40 years ago, right after the assassination of his brother Robert, when it looked like Edward Kennedy would become President someday by right of succession. The Kennedy curse, the one that had seen all three of his brothers cut down in their prime, had created for him a sort of Kennedy prerogative, or at least the illusion of one, an inevitable claim on the White House. For years he seemed like a man simply waiting for the right moment to take what everybody knew was coming his way.


Everybody was wrong. Ted Kennedy would never reach the White House. His weaknesses - and the long shadow of Chappaquiddick - were an obstacle that even his strengths couldn't overcome. But his failure to get to the presidency opened the way to the true fulfillment of his gifts, which was to become one of the greatest legislators in American history. When their White House years are over, most Presidents set off on the long aftermath of themselves. They give lectures, write books, play golf and make money. Jimmy Carter even won a Nobel Prize. But every one of them would tell you that elder-statesmanship is no substitute for real power.(See pictures of Edward's Kennedy's Life and Times.)


Because Kennedy never made it to the finish line, he never had to endure a post-presidential twilight. Instead, by the time of his death on Aug. 25 in Hyannis Port at the age of 77, he had 46 working years in Congress, time enough to leave his imprint on everything from the Voting Rights Act of 1965 to the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act of 2009, a law that expands support for national community-service programs. Over the years, Kennedy was a force behind the Freedom of Information Act, the Occupational Safety and Health Act, and the Americans with Disabilities Act. He helped Soviet dissidents and fought apartheid. Above all, he conducted a four-decade crusade for universal health coverage, a poignant one toward the end as the country watched a struggle with a brain tumor. But along the way, he vastly expanded the network of neighborhood clinics, virtually invented the COBRA system for portable insurance and helped create the laws that provide Medicare prescriptions and family leave.


And for most of that time, he went forward against great odds, the voice of progressivism in a conservative age. When people were getting tired of hearing about racism or the poor or the decay of American cities, he kept talking. When liberalism was flickering, there was Kennedy, holding the torch, insisting that "we can light those beacon fires again." In the last year of his life, with the inauguration of Barack Obama, he had the satisfaction of seeing a big part of that dream fulfilled. In early 2008, when Obama had just begun to capture the public imagination, Kennedy bucked the party establishment. Just before Super Tuesday, the venerable Senator from Massachusetts enthusiastically endorsed the young Senator from Illinois, helping propel Obama to the Democratic nomination and ultimately the White House
more

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