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Controversial health care reforms -- including a public option to compete with private insurance and other major policy changes affecting the health care industry -- likely won't happen this year, U.S. Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis., said Monday afternoon in Eau Claire.

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Democrats are to blame for this one. They could pass it if they wanted to.

Do they think 2010 would be a better time to pass it?

I would take solace in knowing that there won't ever be a public "option." Passing it on to next year is cold confort.

Who the hell woke Herb up? I think this is the second time he's been quoted as a Senator and not a NBA Owner.

"I would take solace in knowing that there won't ever be a public "option." Passing it on to next year is cold confort."

"Next year" might as well be "never." The Obama team knows they only have so long push through his agenda before the honeymoon period is over. He's taken so many hits on the stimulus and healthcare that passing anything meaningful "next year" looks like a pipe dream.

The key word here is "meaningful".

Passing it on to next year is cold confort.

It's either this year or not...next year is an election year.

It amazes me how so many bastards are gleeful that the lower income working class won't ever have access to quality preventive medical care. You know the ones that make a little too much for medicaid but don't make enough for a regular policy.

Boyd--if they wanted to address those folks they could expand the requirements to allow those folks into the existing program.

But you see--that is NOT what they want.

They want to control our friggin lives and destroy a system of health care that is pretty darn good.

Does the insurance part need some reform--Yes.


But screw the public option.

Liberty and Tryanny.

There's a jackass who posts as a Boyd---and a chickenshit cunt that posts as Jackass.

#10 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

BS lies from Jak once again. I gave you my email. I asked you to email me real info on where to meet. You never did. Just STFU you dumb ranch hand.

"Who the hell woke Herb up? I think this is the second time he's been quoted as a Senator and not a NBA Owner." Wisgod

My thoughts exactly.

Why are the religious leaders seemingly absent from this Health Care debate?

Is it because the Republican party which seems to be so objectionable to Health Care reform is a party dominated by the religious right?

A religious right that does not seem to want to talk re' Health Care as applied to the Christian messages having to do with the concepts of the good samaritan (i.e. helping a total stranger), the concept of being your brothers keeper even the feeding of a large crowd with a few loaves of bread and 2 fishes so that everyone got a share?

Where are this typically vocal crowd that like to call themselves 'values voters'?

Is not one of their values visa vie Health Care to take care of others?

It lends one to speculate exactly what are their 'values'.

Frankly this lack of input regarding this very real and moral issue of Health Care from these so called religious leaders implies their real values are relative who it applies to. Whatever it is, it is not the story of the good samaritan nor about being in any sense your brothers keeper.

Where are you people from? Name one government health program that isn't bleeding the country dry.

But let's pretend we can afford even more.

Grow up.

Let's also pretend that Social Security is not bankrupt and the government can continue to spend money it doesn't have. Hey dems, whatever happened to the Social Security lockbox? Maybe Holder could investigate the theft of that lockbox money and prosecute the politicians who stole it.

I gave you my email. I asked you to email me real info on where to meet. You never did.

#11 | Posted by jackass at 2009-08-24 06:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hey Jak, did he also tell you that he's a master of some obscure martial art?

Did he warn you that he's also a shape shifter? He can make himself invisible at will?

having to do with

1.the concepts of the good samaritan (i.e. helping a total stranger),
2.the concept of being your brothers keeper
3.even the feeding of a large crowd with a few loaves of bread and 2 fishes so that everyone got a share?

Whatever it is, it is not the story of the good samaritan nor about being in any sense your brothers keeper.

#13 | Posted by GodAlmighty at 2009-08-24 07:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

All of your examples (and many more in Scripture) are INDIVIDUAL people helping others on an individual basis.

Nowhere does Jesus tell us that the Ceaser is to take control of the economy and direct it to Christian goals.

In fact, if that were to happen you'd likely squeal like a pig about the church gaining influence over government. Ehh?

Reported on Bloomberg: Swine Flu May Cause 90,000 U.S. Deaths, Report Says

www.bloomberg.com

They're getting so desperate that they're pulling numbers out of their asses.

I hope everyone in the Beltway Crowd takes the vaccine. Let them have a taste of their own medicine.

whatever happened to the Social Security lockbox? "

Didn't Algore put that under his bed? Maybe he moved it to the closet, or the garage?

Swine Flu May Cause 90,000 U.S. Deaths, Report Says

In an unrelated story, Swine Flu may not. More at 11.

Bllomberg just reported what the White House said about 90,000 deaths.
Pure horseshit, this swine flu scare.

correct me if i'm wrong: afaict, a single person in need (who meets the requirements) can only get food stamps. to get medicaid you have to be getting cash (the old "welfare" or "general assistance" check) to get that check--for what it's worth--and to then be able to apply for medicaid you have to have children.

so, no children = nothing but foodstamps. no soap, no toilet paper, no toothpaste, no medicine.

that fascistards. you did that.

www.cms.hhs.gov

there are few exceptions" pregnancy, medically "needy."

ain't that a hoot, the whole fascist contract on America...
en.wikipedia.org
...war cry was to get the minorities having kids to get welfare --welfare babies, like crack babies, like alien babies, like babies they tried to kill off and probably would again if the fascists take over again.

there ya go, your "dead babies" post.

maybe these are some reasons why its in trouble

from the american leaugue of voters..


Lie #1: 'You Keep Your Doctor, You Keep Your Insurer'

This is a complete fabrication.

Under plans Obama has backed in the House and the Senate, almost any business can opt their employees into the "public option" the government health plan.

That means you could lose your insurer. And if your doctor is worth his salt, you'll lose him or her as well.

Why? Because great doctors probably will not want to get the very low rates the government will pay private doctors who are part of the new government system.

So, without your consent, you very easily could lose your insurer and your doctor.

Lie #2: The Elderly Will Not Face Rationing or Medicare Cuts

More baloney.

In fact, just last week, The New York Times, a very liberal and very pro-Obama newspaper, admitted that fears of rationing for elderly patients are "not irrational."

The truth is that Obamacare would almost 50 million new patients to government care.

Who would pay for it. You would!

Seniors on Medicare will be the first hit.

Here's what the Times reported: "Bills now in Congress would squeeze savings out of Medicare, a lifeline for the elderly, on the assumption that doctors and hospitals can be more efficient."

This means that faceless bureaucrats will decide the type and quality of your care.

It is a very dangerous thing to give your life and well-being over to government bureaucrats!

Imagine if you or a loved one is older than 80 years and critically needs heart surgery.

Instead of getting the heart procedure, you or that loved one could be informed that you are simply too old.


Lie #3: There Will Be No "Death Panels."

More lies.

Sure, they don't call them "death panels" in the legislation, but that's what their job will be.

These committee members will set guidelines with which faceless bureaucrats will make decisions about you and your healthcare.

They will decide who lives and who dies. They decide who gets critical procedures and expensive medicines.

Again, according to the New York Times, the Democratic plans call for saving money by creating new oversight committees.

The Times says that Medicare and insurers would be expected to follow "advice from a new federal panel of medical experts on 'what treatments work best.'"

Again, this very liberal paper concluded: "The zeal for cutting health costs, combined with proposals to compare the effectiveness of various treatments and to counsel seniors on end-of-life care, may explain why some people think the legislation is about rationing, which could affect access to the most expensive services in the final months of life."

MORE LIES from obama

and please pay particualar attention to the subject of the last paragraph...about illegals..

Lie #4: The Obama Plan Contains Costs

Absolute nonsense.

The Obama plan will cost more than $1 trillion in new federal outlays, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

This past weekend, Sen. Joe Lieberman claimed that most of this cost comes from adding 50 million people, currently uninsured, to the government health system.

But as Lieberman pointed out, we just don't have the money to do this right now.

You can add only so many people to the government system by cutting medical care to seniors on Medicare and raising taxes.

Democrats clearly plan to do both.

Lie #5: Illegals Are Not Covered by Obamacare

President Obama has stated time and again that illegal aliens are not covered under his new plan.

Still, Democrats say they want to add almost 50 million uninsured. Yet almost one-quarter of these uninsured are illegal aliens.

None of the Democratic plans excludes illegal aliens.

In fact, when Republicans proposed an amendment to the House plan to block illegals from getting free government healthcare, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her minions soundly defeated the motion.

It amazes me how so many bastards are gleeful that the lower income working class won't ever have access to quality preventive medical care.

#8 | Posted by jackass

I guess you know someone who is dead because they couldn't get any healthcare.

I guess you think it is my fault because someone too lazy to get a good education and a good job can't afford "GREAT" healthcare.

I guess you can point out to me where in the constitution that it says I should provide healthcare fore someone I don't even know.

Update: Wisconsin's other senator says no healthcare bill by year end, possibly no bill at all.

www.lakelandtimes.com

"Nobody is going to bring a bill before Christmas, and maybe not even then, if this ever happens," Feingold said. "The divisions are so deep. I never seen anything like that."

I guess you know someone who is dead because they couldn't get any healthcare.

I do. But, there are also 17,999 other folks that I don't know that die every YEAR (that is equivalent to 6 9/11's per year!!!) because they have NO access to health care.

I guess you think it is my fault because someone too lazy to get a good education and a good job can't afford "GREAT" healthcare.

What does this have to do with you and your faults? It is not about "GREAT" healthcare it is about ANY healthcare.

I guess you can point out to me where in the constitution that it says I should provide healthcare fore someone I don't even know.

Why do you bother to pay taxes that theoretically provide schooling, fire and police and protection for people you don't even know! Is THAT in the Constitution?

I am praying that this bill completely fails. HR3200 is not a Health care bill; it is a "TAKE OVER AND CONTROL US BILL." They want to control every aspect of our lives. This bill passes, we become a liability to the Government. I don't want to be a liability to no one except me.


It amazes me how so many bastards are gleeful that the lower income working class won't ever have access to quality preventive medical care. You know the ones that make a little too much for medicaid but don't make enough for a regular policy.

#8 | Posted by jackass at 2009-08-24 06:44 PM

So you're talking about the ones that bought new cars under the cash for clunkers. Or maybe the ones that only go out to dinner 3 times a week instead of 5. Or maybe you're talking about the ones that have dsl, wi fi and unlimited cell phone talk time. Or perhaps the ones that bought more home than they could afford and now have a lifetime mortgage.

You're a trip. I feel sorry for you.


Where are you people from? Name one government health program that isn't bleeding the country dry.


But let's pretend we can afford even more.


Grow up.

#13 | Posted by zulu at 2009-08-24 07:35 PM


Very nice. Succinct.

It'll go right over their heads.

You'll need to further dumb it down.

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