I hate france, but I dislike rowdy immigrants and mutts more.
The best I can hope for is riots in the streets where both sides take a beating.

What gives? I'll bet we could have some great name calling debates over this thread.

Aren't Tunisians really black jews...

Waiting to cut out the deadwood.
Waiting to clean up the city.
Waiting to follow the worms.

So France is basically waving the white flag over a few boos and whistles?

And this is news??!

France displaying a little love of country?

Congratualtions - Nice show of stones, Frenchies!
Keep up the good work.

If I keep learning of good stories like this, I will
have to cease making sport of the French such as...

Q: Why are the streets of Paris lined with tall trees?

A: Because Germans like to march in the shade.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO France. Happy Helloween!

YEAH!

Sounds like the French and those Dumb Americans who think you need to hold your hand to your heart during a song have much in common!

If someone doesn't want to hold their hand over their heart, salute or whatever when a country's national anthem is played that should be their prerogative but to boo during the anthem is an affront to one's country. I salute the French for addressing this slap in the face to their country by those who booed during the anthem.

You just have to ask yourself, when redneckville makes his worthless comments about America, how is it he gets away with his indignations of the greatest country ever? Oh yeah, I forgot for a split second! GOD,the U.S.Constitution's Bill of Rights, the U.S.Armed Forces, you have to wonder what the world would be like without GOD, the U.S.Constitution, the U.S. Armed Forces. The way things are going with this election, it looks like the American people are going to find out after they put usama obama in the White House, they will shred the Constitution for obama to use to wipe his ass.

Nobody loves soccer more than me, so I understand officials trying to stop bad sportsmanship which can lead to fighting and rioting.

To understand the problem we must ask ourselves, "What is the purpose/function of sports for society?" THOM's answer: "The vicarious release of violence among people in society."

Ergo if that is true then soccer is not doing it's job and thus the fans start fighting and rioting.

Thus we must go back to the root game of soccer which was played in England hundreds of years ago and was a type of mob football game played between two villages with no rules and an inflated pig bladder or maybe a human head. The object was to get the head from one village to the other by any means necessary. People got killed and badly injured but they blew off some steam every Spring. We must bring back the original game. "Leave it all on the field"!!

I agree with France outlawing the booing of their National Anthem and I would agree if our own country took the same action to not allow booing during the playing of the Star Spangled Banner.

If someone does not want to participate in singing a country's National Anthem played before a game then let them just stand there in silence until the song is over. To interrupt the song with jeers and booing and ruin it for others who do respect their country's national anthem is wrong.

Boo the referees, or pour beer on the head of the guy in front of you who's wearing the colors of the opposing team, but booing any country's National Anthem is out of bounds and in extremely poor taste.

Here's an idea. Quit playing the fucking anthem before every sporting match! It's a contest, usually with a ball, between extremely gifted athletes. Exactly why do we have to play the anthem?

86 the anthemns. it ain't other nations that are gonna get ya but the corporations that run the nations.

"If someone doesn't want to hold their hand over their heart, salute or whatever when a country's national anthem is played that should be their prerogative"

No, its just dumb! Its not an oath --- its a freakin' jingle!

Anyway, I'm not slammin' america, I'm slammin' the dumb ass's (joe dipshit) like you rightnut!

I really like our Bill of Rights. Let's keep it, even if it means that we allow folks to show their stupidity.

It sounds as if the game was already over, so stopping the match does what???

I think hannity is going to bust a gasket! He just got shitty with one of his reliable wingdings! He's now getting all Mad at his favorite Hungarian, the Hoe Toe Sucker!

And this guy Joe ---- he looks like a lazy Mr. Clean!

France outlawing booing
is like opera singers who were popular
a long time ago. and nobody gives a shite.

I'm glad to see so many nutless wonders signed in here today! I suppose most of you belly crawlers will be happy when Barack Insane Obambam changes the flag from the stars and stripes to his idea of what it should be. He has already stated twice that he would like to do that! Oh ya, for all of you who own 'em, check his past record on gun legislation. Kiss them good by. First no slide or semi auto actions, then register all guns, then -----, He stated that when he was in the state legislature. Stand by for a wild ride children, CHANGE is on the way!!!!!

Le Boo

"I agree with France outlawing the booing of their National Anthem and I would agree if our own country took the same action to not allow booing during the playing of the Star Spangled Banner.

...

but booing any country's National Anthem is out of bounds and in extremely poor taste."

#11 | Posted by CalifChris

Yep, to Hell with that 1st Amendment stuff. Don't need it now how.

Next: An Amendment to the Constitution to prohibit "poor taste."

One of the goals of Fascism: Suppress dissent in any form.

I agree with France outlawing the booing of their National Anthem and I would agree if our own country took the same action to not allow booing during the playing of the Star Spangled Banner.
Posted by CalifChris

I think the American spectators would take care of those who did the booing. We don't need big goverment to tell us when to hand out a beating.

I have never, NEVER, been to any event where our National Anthem was booed.

I laugh that it apparently happens in France with such frequency that it has to be outlawed.

Whaddya expect from such a liberal country?

A key tenant to Liberalism is to hate one's own country and the freedoms that it affords.

Maybe the National Anthem gets booed at sporting events in San Fransisco. If it does, it's never been reported on as far as I can see.

A key tenant to Liberalism is to hate one's own country and the freedoms that it affords.

Morning, Jeff. I call BS on that statement. Hating one's country may be a key tenant in some people's liberalism, but it is not a key tenant in liberalism per se. I can't imagine booing our national anthem or "America the Beautiful," for that matter.

"A key tenant to Liberalism is to hate one's own country and the freedoms that it affords."

And that's just one snippet, a suitably meaningless tidbit, a mere hint of what you can produce if you, too, link your keyboard up to Ron Popeil's Bloviator's Randomly Generated Fundamentally Vacuous Platitude Great Big Fat Production Machine. Remember, what's good for Ronco is good for America.

Starvis,

You really need to quit channeling FrankF55.

Jeffie, have you ever seriously considered switching from your Josef Goebbels impersonation?

Hi Gal!

I can't imagine booing our national anthem or "America the Beautiful," for that matter.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

You raise a good point.

I used "Liberalism" when I should have used "Leftism".

I painted with WAY too broad of a brush.

Leftists are a subset of Liberals.

A healthy portion of liberals, outside of the subset of leftists, love this country as much as any conservative.

I hope this makes sense.

Doc,

It's spelled "Jeffy".

Try to keep up.

It's spelled "Sarvis."

And even when you say "Leftists," you still sound like Josef Goebbels.

Please, do yourself a favor: get an education. Even night classes would probably help get you up to speed.

"A key tenant to Liberalism is to hate one's own country and the freedoms that it affords."

sad but true.

"Sarvis",

I hate to break it to you, but I have an education.

Since we are administering free advice, here's my advice to you:

Grow a thicker skin, chill-out and quit attempting humor at a FrankF55 level.

Go drink a beer or Zima or whatever floats your boat.

Do whatever you have to do to 'get you there'.

I am joking around on this thread and you are WAY too serious - not to mention unfunny (at least on this thread) to boot.

Even night classes would probably help get you up to speed.

#30 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

But wait until the Spring of 2009 semester. They'll be free.

"I have never, NEVER, been to any event where our National Anthem was booed.
I laugh that it apparently happens in France with such frequency that it has to be outlawed."

YEAH!

And I never seen an american flag being burned ------ yet it had to be outlawed!
Do you find that funny too?

I couldn't care less if someone boo's the National Anthem, just as long as they do it when it is no longer playing. If someone beside me is booing while I am standing at attention saluting the Flag, I will exersize my first ammendment rights and shut his mouth.

By the way, it is not illegal to burn US Flag in protest.

"I hate to break it to you, but I have an education."

Your choice, but you conceal it well.

yet it had to be outlawed!
Posted by redneckville

idiot.

"I hate to break it to you, but I have an education."

Your choice, but you conceal it well.

#37 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Congratulations!

You've just graduated from the FrankF55 school of humor and have moved into the '726' school of humor!

The French National Team is in shambles. The great Zizou teams of the 90's died a sudden death with the head butt of Mazarati and Zidan's subsequent retirement. They were embarrassed at the Euros getting thumped in three matches and scoring only one goal. Supporters are unhappy with team selections--often leaving Ribery, Makelele, Trezague, Nazri, Benzama out--and blame much of the problems on their ancient manager and his petrified defensive tactics. Additionally many of the French greats aren't actually from France. They are N. African/Caribbean immigrants like much of France's lower class. Those people are as disappointed as French Nationals at the team make-up and feel like France is raping the talent pool of their native lands.

So now we have two large groups of fans very unhappy; white Frenchmen who see a crap team filled with mostly black faces, and African/Muslim immigrants whose favorite players have been stolen and nationalized by France.

But the overall "problem" is that club football and club loyalties have taken precedent all over the world. My family supports Liverpool. My dad sits in the Kop each Saturday and roots for an "English" team full of Spaniards and owned by Yanks. When he goes to Wembley to see England/Gerrard he is there to boo England's Italian coach and Chelski players. He couldn't give a toss if England win or lose as long as Gerrard starts in midfield over Lampard he is happy.

I suspect French fans have a similar "modern" approach to club v country football. Many are there to root for players of certain teams and give everyone else stick. This ban won't work to curb any booing. Like the racism bans of recent, opposing fans will use the policy to their advantage and selectively force the refs to abandon matches. Considering France's scoring prowess of recent, this could do 'em a favor.

YEAH!

Sounds like the French and those Dumb Americans who think you need to hold your hand to your heart during a song have much in common!

#7 | Posted by Redneckville at 2008-10-15 09:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

The French OUTLAW Booing of Anthem dummy. One of the DR lefties European Socialist hero countries. OUTLAWING Booing of Anthem. Too funny.

Usually scheduled, public displays of patriotism come across to me as either very pretentious or completely fake. But I'm glad that I don't live a country where a bunch of dirt merchants from some stinkhole of a country can come here and boo our anthem and get away with it so frequently that rules against the behavior must be implemented. Drunken fists police such behavior in America, God bless her.

I agree with France outlawing the booing of their National Anthem and I would agree if our own country took the same action to not allow booing during the playing of the Star Spangled Banner.
Posted by CalifChris

THAT'S AS SHOCKING AS ANY POST I'VE EVER SEEN ON THE DR. When there is a boo....how do you propose it is dealt with after you outlaw it? Brown shirts? Arrest? Public humiliation? IMHO your post is OUTRAGEOUS. Gotta love the DR left.

YEAH!

And I never seen an american flag being burned ------ yet it had to be outlawed!

#34 | Posted by redneckville at 2008-10-16 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

LOL, and do tell us when it was OUTLAWED clown.

This really is no different than burning the flag. Both are nothing more than symbols...

I remember watching the Cowboys v. Eagles game a few weeks ago and the young woman who sang the song was massacred for doing the worst Whitney Houston impression ever. Roseanne Barr got the shit booed out of her and rightfully so for her inability to sing. Are we going to stop the anthem and sort it all out...who we're booing, why we're booing...etc? Maybe you'll have to fill out a booing form that will be filed with Homeland Security when you enter a sporting event?

"I will exersize my first ammendment rights and shut his mouth."

#35 | Posted by ledball

And you would do that how?

"And I never seen an american flag being burned ------ yet it had to be outlawed!"

#34 | Posted by redneckville at 2008-10-16 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

"LOL, and do tell us when it was OUTLAWED clown."

#44 | Posted by ride_on

Flag Protection Laws by State:

And you would do that how?

#46 | Posted by ZOT

A well placed knee to the balls usually quiets them down.

"Roseanne Barr got the shit booed out of her and rightfully so for her inability to sing."

It was less her ability to sing and more because she was grabbing her crotch and spitting while screeching out the anthem.

She is swine, but yet she still make millions and is beloved by many.

"A well placed knee to the balls usually quiets them down."

#48 | Posted by wisgod

A well placed attorney would quiet you down.

Can you say "assault and battery"?

It was less her ability to sing and more because she was grabbing her crotch and spitting while screeching out the anthem.

My core belief is that this is an over-the-top reaction. However, I very much understand their position. This goes to the most inflamatory issue in France, that of immigration and the huge numbers of unemployed immigrants. And the French who very much dislike them. Leading the government to think of such booing as similar to yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. Because a very possible consequence is rioting, bloody rioting.

I heard that France has a contrary law if a US-based team is playing on their soil - it's criminal NOT to boo the National Anthem of the U.S.

"I heard that France has a contrary law if a US-based team is playing on their soil - it's criminal NOT to boo the National Anthem of the U.S."
#53 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-10-16

YEAH!

And that fantasy gives you a Charge! Why?

The Frenchmen have been emasculated and so recourse to "lawful means" is necessary to obtain "respect" from outsiders. Shucks. Real men would have kept the foreigners fearful of consequences for displaying public disdain for the tricolor.

What they should do is deport them if they don't fit in to French society rather than engage in wishy-washy ambivalence marked by equivocation. After all, it's not only the sports arenas, but the pourover to the streets, where cars are burned, and those charged with maintaining law and order retreat from the aliens, fearful of encounters.

Didn't a Travolta movie being filmed in Paris recently suspend production when ten cars were burned? And guess what? There were no consequences for the people who did it. These rampages are rountine and the gendarmerie don't confront the people committing the outrages.

I suppose it's now, "Allons enfants de la patrie, la jour de gloire est partie."

The so-called civilized folks need to understand these people in the same way they understand the civilized folk. They know that we Westerners balk and are immobilized if we don't conform to some self-imposed set of restrictions that render us incapable of fending off the aggression by the aliens. We compromise ourselves with self-searching rather than adopting an attitude that there is no restraint warranted in dealing with people who are trying to do us harm or advancing interests antithetical to ours. Our reticence in not ignoring nonsensical reservations concerning the well-being of Guantanamo prisoners indicates a national malaise. We shall be complicit in our own destruction by imposing irrational restrictions on our conduct in the face of peril.

Even now, we're apologetic regarding such benign practices as profiling. Our behavior is suicidal.

Johnson = Saddam!

CRAP. Next they'll probably outlaw burning the French flag!

It is actually all very simple. France was playing a national team game against Tunisia, a country that has had many of its people emmigrate to France. The French Tunisian fans, rooting for Tunisia, started booing the French national anthem partly because of the way northern africans have been treated in France for the last thirty years and partly because the two teams are in competition for a spot in the next World cup. The French government has taken this action in order to avoid violence between the two fan bases that the booing of the anthem could provoke. Violence has been and is a major concern in the soccer world especially true in international games. The reason that this sort of thing does not happen here is that the US does not play very many sports against international teams. The World series is hardly an international competition and the Super bowl the same.

BTW, R8R8HR, that was Materazzi and Zidane and Domenech, the French coach just got recomfirmed

"We shall be complicit in our own destruction by imposing irrational restrictions on our conduct in the face of peril."

AKA, it makes no sense being a 21st century civilization because the only way we can survive is by being 12th century barbarians.

"A well placed attorney would quiet you down.

Can you say "assault and battery"?"

What can an attorney do for you after you've taken a beating from some stranger you have no way of identifying? If the cops intervene that's one thing but then you don't need an attorney unless you are trying to turn your assholish behavior into profit.

It is actually pretty easy to get away with battery

BTW, R8R8HR, that was Materazzi and Zidane and Domenech, the French coach just got recomfirmed

#58 | Posted by geezer1

What exactly are you taking issue with? I don't watch Seria A (except for a few Inter matches) so don't bust my balls over the spelling of some Italian thug's name.

Domenech is a fool. He picks his team with an astrology chart. French fans are gonna boo until he is gone. I agree Tunisia and other African countries hold animosity towards France. That isn't exactly news, neither is violence at football matches, nor rude behavior directed at the opposition. So I don't understand the point of the Sport's Minister...but it's France so whatever...

"A well placed knee to the balls usually quiets them down."

#48 | Posted by wisgod

A well placed attorney would quiet you down.

Can you say "assault and battery"?

#50 | Posted by ZOT

Not sure we're you're from, folks around here would hail anyone kicking the shit out of someone booing during the National Anthem a hero.

"So I don't understand the point of the Sport's Minister"

I believe their concern is rioting. Which could easily get out of control. And cause bloodshed. The animosity between the North African immigrants in France and the locals has reached that level.

#61 | Posted by r8rh8r

You misread me! I wasn't trying to bust your balls at all. Just correcting the names. As far as Domenech, I agree he is a fossil who always opens his big mouth at the wrong time and plays his little favorites without thinking of team chemistry or rewarding players who earn a spot. Sorry if I sounded like an asshole. Didn't mean to be. How about England's win yesterday over Germany..

"...kicking the shit out of someone booing during the National Anthem a hero."

Certainly seems to be the American way. Violence is for more easy to commit than Peace.

"How about England's win yesterday over Germany.." - Geezer1

England played Germany in what sport - rugby or ?

"Violence is for more easy to commit than Peace."

People who think that violence never solves anything are ignorant to pretty much the entirety of human history.

Take any rude asshole - the type that would come to your country and boo your anthem just to piss you off: That person was most likely raised by people who spent decades trying to teach this jerk how to act around others. And the guy still has no manners. No amount of reasoning with such a person is going to change him. But even a minor beating will teach that same asshole some manners pretty quick. And whoever beats those manners into him is actually doing him a favor.

Sorry, My mistake!!! England 3 - Bielorussia 1

2010 Soccer world cup qualifier

Certainly seems to be the American way. Violence is for more easy to commit than Peace.

#65 | Posted by ZOT

What would you do? Kiss the S.O.B. to shut him up?

Better hope the French soccer or basketball teams never play in Philadelphia.

Slippery slope. Can't outlaw peaceful protest. If booing the anthem floats your boat, go for it. You want to burn a flag, fine, who cares.

You misread me!

Yeah, I seem to do that...football is about the only thing in my life I take seriously ;)

I got the center-halves' name close enough, but Zizou is Zinedine Zidane, like Edison Arantes do Nascimento is really 'Pele', or Ronaldo de Assis Moreira is 'Ronaldinho'. I spent the first 16 years of my life trying to be him; I try to not muck up His name.

I didn't see the match last night, I watched the first two qualifiers and so far I love the set-up and squad. Rooney is back to his old self (still 22) and Theo is starting to fill his boots. It is a perfect blend of old and Young--the one guy missing from the first 11.