"There are more than 1.2 million Arab-Americans and about 7 million Muslim-Americans, former Cabinet secretaries, members of Congress, successful business people, normal average Americans from all walks of life."

That's an awful lot of terrorists slinking along the streets of our naked cities.
~Rightie "What's That Under My Bed?" Tightie

So what if Obama were a Muslim or an Arab?

Taking your premise and running with it....

The only problem I'd have with it is that, under your scenario, he tried to paint himself as something he isn't - a Christian.

So what if Obama were a Muslim or an Arab?

He'd have some screwed-up first name and middle name.

he tried to paint himself as something he isn't - a Christian.

#2 | Posted by JeffJ

How the hell do you know what he feels in his heart or what the name of his God is? Maybe you're the one pretending.

Am I wrong in assuming that a man has the right, in the USofA, to determine what his religion is and shall not be descriminated against based on that? Seems I read that somewhere.

Is there a litmus test for who is and who isn't a christian? Beleive that Jesus Christ is his savior is basically it, right? I have heard him say exactly that numerous times.

You christians better do some more praying or you're going to kill your religion under the weight of conficting beliefs and hypocracy.

I personally hope that is exactly what happens.

You know and I know if Obama was some lily white WASP He would not be getting the shit that He is getting now simply because He is black with a supposed arab sounding name. Its sad that in 2008 we still have racism around.

Larry

Larry,

It IS sad that racism is still around.

a supposed arab sounding name.

No.

It's a Muslim name. Race (Arabic, black, caucasion, etc) has nothing to do with it.

I HAVE to go - but if you'd like to know what his first, middle and last name mean in Islam - shoot me an email and I can provide it for you.

You know and I know if Obama was some lily white WASP He would not be getting the shit that He is getting now simply because He is black with a supposed arab sounding name.
* * * *

Uh huh. Because we all know how well lily white WASP's do when handed the Democratic nomination.

I HAVE to go - but if you'd like to know what his first, middle and last name mean in Islam - shoot me an email and I can provide it for you.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-10-14 05:08 PM | Reply

Sniffs the air. JeffJ is resorting to the same tactics He used on May 16 205 when caught/Deflecting. Funny dat Be.

Larry

That should be May 16 2005.

Islam is a language?

Aside from the 'Kenya and Kansas' singularity of his own background, the genesis of the name 'Barack' is more interesting than that of most: depending on which sources you encounter, the nomination derives either from the Swahili or from the Arabic / Semitic root Baruch (both of which are terms which indicate 'blessedness', to which we return below). Even more interesting then this apparently cross-cultural lingogenesis however, is the extent to which the rhetoric employed by (Barack) Obama in our time and (Baruch) Spinoza in the seventeenth century form a kind of 'resonance machine' with regard to the politics of affect. After the win in Iowa, the former gave a rousing victory speech, in which he discussed the difference between a mode of governance which operates through the dissemination of fear, versus one which relies instead upon the 'audacity of hope'. As he put it (to the undoubtedly goosebumped epidermi of millions of Americans, who had become accustomed to a very different affective governance in the wake of 9/11); (see link)

ORIGIN AND HISTORY

Hussein is an Arabic name that means "good-looking." It can be traced back to the Arabic hasuna, meaning "to be good," or "to be beautiful."

"Etymology of Obama" didn't turn up anything at first glance.

Blessed Handsome Obama

hussein is a name that existed before islam

its an arabic name

not a muslim name

but the fearful will be fearful
its only going to hurt you in the future

"You know and I know if Obama was some lily white WASP He would not be getting the shit that He is getting now simply because He is black with a supposed arab sounding name. Its sad that in 2008 we still have racism around.

Larry

#5 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-10-14 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:"

barack = buraq or burak

actually nanc
once again your idiotness takes root

the buraq
or winged steed is an animal and lower then human

muslims are forbidden to name humans after angels or animals

because they are lower then humans

so barack != buraq
but
barack = barq
which means blessed

thanks for playing
but once again your ignorance is proven
you lose

barq also means lightning in arabic AND persian
thus the whole sarah silverman video where she says it means lightning

" i would not vote for a muzlim."

your great grandkids are going to be "muzlim"

be careful

izlam is not a race. and no, i would not vote for a muzlim.

#16 | Posted by nanc at 2008-10-14 05:55 PM | R

once again, the biggoted nanc shows her true colors.

"He'd have some screwed-up first name and middle name.

#3 | Posted by cookfish"

Yeah, like Schlomo Moshe.

your great grandkids are going to be "muzlim"

be careful

#19 | Posted by klifferd

You planning on banging her grand-daughter?

Most americans do not know that there are arabs in all different religions. So an arab would be ok as long as he was a christian. the operative descriminator for most americans is gonna be against anything other than christian. a muslim would never be elected.

just like it says in the bible, i mean constitution, i mean rush limbaugh told me.

"against anything other than christian"

I guess Tom Paine's fucked, then.

"izlam is not a race. and no, i would not vote for a muzlim.

#16 | Posted by nanc at 2008-10-14 05:55 PM | R

once again, the biggoted nanc shows her true colors.

#20 | Posted by hillbillydeluxe at 2008-10-14 06:50 PM | Reply | Flag:" "nutcase"

once again, only s l o w e rrrr

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if people were considered "biggoted" for merely implying a "religion" was an inferior "religion", then nearly everybody here who shows their disdain on a daily basis for christianity would also be "biggoted" - do you see the difference, hbd? or are you willingly stupid?

p.s. - there is a cure for stupidity, but i fear yours may be a terminal case.

I guess Tom Paine's fucked, then.

#24 | Posted by Zatoichi

Me too, I'm a deist.

"Me too, I'm a deist."

Posted by Lipzoidial

I'm sure Tom would like to meet you and Ben Franklin for a beer. I'd like to meet Tom and Ben for a beer. Too bad they're dead.

- do you see the difference, hbd? or are you willingly stupid?

#25 | Posted by nanc

Show em what's behind door number 2 -Monty Hall

nanc once again

you are a bigot
and that has nothing to do with race

racist has to do with race
you are that too

but you are also a bigot
against muslims
gays
and anyone else that isn't just like you.

oh and lip

"You planning on banging her grand-daughter?"

no, but thats a good idea

klifferd - cite one instance where i've been a bigot or stfu. you are part of the problem - i am part of the solution you twit!

You planning on banging her grand-daughter?

Klifferd will never do such a thing! He is married!

I'm not married.....

Sniffs the air. JeffJ is resorting to the same tactics He used on May 16 205 when caught/Deflecting. Funny dat Be.

How was I deflecting?

Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim name.

This is a factual comment.

"klifferd - cite one instance where i've been a bigot or stfu. you are part of the problem - i am part of the solution you twit!"

Who you trying to fool, Nanc? You're always making bigoted remarks about Muslims. Not everyone here is as dumb as you.

:Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim name.

This is a factual comment."

Are you going to start again with that juvenile shit? And then you wonder why I accuse you of partisan hackery.

null - as with your view of christians, i'm ENTITLED to feel as i do about muzlims. que?

neither are a race, so one would be hard put to be bigotted against either.

"neither are a race, so one would be hard put to be bigotted against either."

Try a dictionary. Bigotry isn't confined to racial discrimination.

Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim name.

This is a factual comment.

What ever happened to I only did that one time?????

I see JJ can't help himself. If I didn't know better this was murphy type of style.

Barack is arabic
Hussein is arabic
Obama is yoruba

So on all accounts you are ignorant and just political hacking but seems thats par for your neoliberal repub party. Can't seem to support your foundation of thinking so character slash who you don't like.

well then, null - since hate is a word, izlam rates right up there with salmon and tuna for me - i hate both, although izlam is just an idea, it still reaks of tuna and salmon. guess you might say i like them as well as you and yours like me.

unmangle that one!

'night!

'night!

Finally.

well then, null - since hate is a word, izlam rates right up there with salmon and tuna for me - i hate both, although izlam is just an idea, it still reaks of tuna and salmon. guess you might say i like them as well as you and yours like me.

#40 | Posted by nanc at 2008-10-15 01:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

klifferd - cite one instance where i've been a bigot or stfu. you are part of the problem - i am part of the solution you twit!

#31 | Posted by nanc at 2008-10-15 12:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

What a moron.

To be honest "Hussein" is kind of a funny name.

Still, Spud would much rather have the middle name of "Hussein" rather than "Sidney".

Wasn't that a tv show with Valerie Bertinelli or sommat?

Blech.

Be Well.

"Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim name.

This is a factual comment.

#33 | Posted by JeffJ "

And you bring it up why?

Barack is also a Hebrew name

I like King Hussein of Jordan. Moderate, Western educated, pragmatic.

"Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim name.

This is a factual comment.

In content this is false.

Barack Hussein Obama has clearly shown and said he is Christian it puts his name to the origin which is arabic and is not a realized religious adaptation.

""Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim name.

This is a factual comment."

#33 | Posted by JeffJ "

"And you bring it up why?"

Jeff,

Remember earlier when you asked if I thought you posted anything that made you look like a partisan hack?

This brings it kinda close.

You have been consistantly bringing up that one little "fact" for quite awhile. And Null brings a very good question to you ...why?

Could it be because some Americans are terrified of muslims after 911 and you want to keep that front most in their minds, counting on fear to prevent one from voting for him?

If not that, I don't see the need to keep bringing that up.

Oh, and Jeff??

Why do you omit the "fact" that Obama is a Christian?

I think if you want to bring up one "fact", the other "fact" should follow. At least it should if you weren't trying to make it look as if Obama was something that he wasn't.

"Remember earlier when you asked if I thought you posted anything that made you look like a partisan hack? "

Jeff! A partisan hack! Nooooooo.

Just because he likes to say Barack Hussein Obama surely doen't make him out to be a partisan hack.

I certainly wouldn't accuse him of being a partisan hack even if that's the way it appears to anyone who isn't braindead.

BTW, nanc...you are a fucking bigot.

it's like one crooked deal after another with the dhimmicrats - anybody keeping book on them?

add this to the list.

#1 | Posted by nanc at 2008-10-15 01:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

"""Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim name.

This is a factual comment."

#33 | Posted by JeffJ ""

This is the first presidential campaign where I even knew the candidates' middle names. Why do you think that is, Jeff, and why is it important?

Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim name.

So is "Cuckoo Cuckoo".

TOSSER

How's it shakin'?

PS These right wingers don't know the difference between "Muslim" and "Arab" or "Persian".

What an ignorant bunch!

How's it shakin'?

How! (Red Injun greeting?)

Howdy! (Cowboy?)

Where you been Motherfucker? Where's me money? (Pakistani greeting)

"How's it shaking" is a new one... seems kind of obscene (how is WHAT shaking?)... but I will go with it...

I am shaking it fine, thanks. How you shaking?

I think Aussies say it best... G'Day!

"klifferd - cite one instance where i've been a bigot or stfu. you are part of the problem - i am part of the solution you twit!"

i can cite tons
nanc
you are a bigot

how bout calling muslims satan worshippers

you ma'am
are a BIGot

i'm sorry you don't understand hating an entire group of people... especially when its 1/5th of the world's population makes you a bigot. do your grandkids know that granny dearest is a hate mongerer?

btw nanc you could criticize a group without name calling and then maybe you wouldn't be so obviously a bigot

but the name calling takes it to the realm of super obvious

get a clue.

TOSSER

I'm doing well, thanks. My biological clock got turned around again. Spent over a year as a real night owl, and now, even though I hit the sack like I just did, I lay there sometimes without falling asleep and just get up again.

Watching the World Series of Poker on ESPN. I love the game. I'm pretty good at it. Although I don't play very high stakes it's paid for more than a couple of nice vacations for my wife an I the last few years.

Anyway, glad things are cool in Karachi. Hey, "Kool in Karachi". Sounds like a good song title!!

G'day yourself

:-)

TOSSER

'What's shaking?' as a slang expression meaning 'What's happening?" It's like "Hello, how are you?"

"Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim name.

This is a factual comment.

#33 | Posted by JeffJ "

And you bring it up why?

#45 | Posted by nullifidian

Oh, I don't know...maybe it has something to do with the headline of this thread:

So what if Obama were a Muslim or an Arab?

I didn't start this thread.

I haven't employed Obama's middle name in months - it caused his more rabid supporters to go apeshit.

Also, I didn't bring up his name, Larry did.

Larry said it was an Arabic sounding name. I corrected him in that it is a Muslim name, irregardless of race.

MW says:

So on all accounts you are ignorant and just political hacking but seems thats par for your neoliberal repub party. Can't seem to support your foundation of thinking so character slash who you don't like.

This is where I learned the origins of Obama's name. If this information is wrong, prove it. If I am working off of bad information, I will gladly admit so:

Baraq [Barack] was the name of the winged horse-like creature that took Mohammed to Paradise in the Night Journey. Baraq can also mean God's blessing. Obama is Swahili for Osama, who was one of Mohammed's chief warriors. Osama also means lion. Hussein reminds some Americans of Saddam Hussein, and Obama's supporters get upset if it is used. Hussein was the name of Mohammed's grandson. So Obama's entire name is based upon Islamic mythology and African conquest. Barack Hussein Obama means [Allah's blessing] [Mohammed's grandson] [One of Mohammed's finest warriors].

'What's shaking?' as a slang expression meaning 'What's happening?" It's like "Hello, how are you?"

I'd employ a different expression when greeting Michael J. Fox.

This is the first presidential campaign where I even knew the candidates' middle names. Why do you think that is, Jeff, and why is it important?

In 2000 and 2004 Bush was frequently referred to as George W. Bush.

In 2004, Kerry was sometimes referred to as John F. Kerry. Kennedy was frequently referred to as John F. Kennedy.

If this information is wrong, prove it.

One can argue that Hussein is a Muslim name. But I would say, it can also be a non-Muslim name. There is no law that sez it can't be so.

Just like Muslims can be named "Eessa" (Jesus). So?

A lot of you went apeshit over my one comment.

Here's the Genesis for it:

You know and I know if Obama was some lily white WASP He would not be getting the shit that He is getting now simply because He is black with a supposed arab sounding name. Its sad that in 2008 we still have racism around.

Larry

#5 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-10-14 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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Larry,

It IS sad that racism is still around.

a supposed arab sounding name.

No.

It's a Muslim name. Race (Arabic, black, caucasion, etc) has nothing to do with it.

I HAVE to go - but if you'd like to know what his first, middle and last name mean in Islam - shoot me an email and I can provide it for you.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-10-14 05:08 PM

'What's shaking?' as a slang expression meaning 'What's happening?" It's like "Hello, how are you?"

I see that.. but it is a curious expression.

I prefer "I brought the pizza Dude!"

Usually a Shia-Muslim name.

But originally more an Arab name than a Muslim name. Non-Muslims can be called Hussein. He is simply using his father's middle name.

Many Christians in Pakistan, for example, have Muslim sounding names. It is a cultural thing... not religious.

TOSSER

I'll just ask, "How's it going?", or "How are you?" from now on.

LOL

I prefer "I brought the pizza Dude!"

Posted by Tosser

So...exactly what do you plan to with the pizza dude?

What does one do with a pizza???

You eat it while watching Cricket and make a mess on the couch.

So...exactly what do you plan to with the pizza dude?

Not the pizza. The pizza dude

If I were a gal the pizza goes in the fridge, the pizza-dude goes... elsewhere.

But since I'm a guy, the pizza-boy goes back wherever he came from. No tip. I don't tip. I don't want to spoil them.

This is where I learned the origins of Obama's name. If this information is wrong, prove it. If I am working off of bad information, I will gladly admit so:

Jeff J.,

the american thinker is where you think his name comes from. My word, talk about trying to stay ignorant. Those names were around long BEFORE the muslim faith and I think you know this.

But for the etymology and history I give you a sight.

It's a Muslim name. Race (Arabic, black, caucasion, etc) has nothing to do with it.

I HAVE to go - but if you'd like to know what his first, middle and last name mean in Islam - shoot me an email and I can provide it for you.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-10-14 05:08 PM

Now I see the ignorance, names are not created from religion, religion adopts names through the greatness of the characters they write about.

The names were there long before the faith began.

I thought you had a little more smarts than this.

You know Moneywar I don't know why JeffJ just doesn't go to court and adopt the Website aMerican Thinker as another one of His babies. He links almost exclusively to that website. Which btw is an extreme right winged Conservative one. Unbelieveable.

Larry

The Americant Thinker has a number of different people who write for them. In the case of the article I linked, this was the author:

Bill Warner is director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam.

Now I see the ignorance, names are not created from religion, religion adopts names through the greatness of the characters they write about.

The names were there long before the faith began.

I thought you had a little more smarts than this.

#76 | Posted by moneywar

Whatever. I claimed that Obama's name was a Muslim name. I provided the source for my claim, whether they were adapted to suit religion is a semantical issue.

But for the etymology and history I give you a sight.

www.behindthename.com

Thanks for the info.

I don't know why JeffJ just doesn't go to court and adopt the Website aMerican Thinker as another one of His babies. He links almost exclusively to that website. Which btw is an extreme right winged Conservative one. Unbelieveable.

AT is a good website with a number of good writers.

I link to it far less than Starvis links to Huffington post.

Yeah, unbelievable.

cite away, klifferd.

I link to it far less than Starvis links to Huffington post.

Doc isn't the only one who does it all the time.

"AT is a good website with a number of good writers.
I link to it far less than Starvis links to Huffington post.
Yeah, unbelievable.
#79 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-10-15 08:36 AM"

You probably have a less active social life as well, but who gives a fuck?

Bill Warner is director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam.

And I am the Director of the Pizza Research Initiative... a non-profit think-tank dedicated to a better pizza.

Idiot. LOL

You probably have a less active social life as well, but who gives a fuck?

That made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Whatever. I claimed that Obama's name was a Muslim name. I provided the source for my claim, whether they were adapted to suit religion is a semantical issue.

No, like I said earlier, barack H. Obama has clearly shown and confessed to being christian so the religious name doesn't come into play, no matter how much you would like to say it.

And frankly I think you know this but continue to post to get ires up and to push the political hacking notion the tone gives off. Thought you were a little better than this.

So all I have to do to impress you and your mutt is I print up a few labels and stick them on me forehead and I could be Queen of England as far as you're concerned? LOL

Doc isn't the only one who does it all the time.

#81 | Posted by eberly

No shit. But, in Larry's world, it's somehow unbelievable that I, a conservative, would link primarilly to a conservative website yet it's ho-hum when various lefties link exclusively to lefty-sites and with far greater frequency than I.

For some of the drones on this sight I would expect it to go this far, not by the likes of JJ though.

Ha ha ha ha

When someone puts "Center for the Study of..." in front of a name, I usually conclude it's a fringe outfit or a front for the pharmaceutical industry.

"That made absolutely no sense whatsoever."

Neither did your post.
Just another whine from just another Rightbot.

How stupid of someone referring to a webpage... written by a non-Muslim.... when a Muslim here is telling you otherwise?

You're koo-koo.

No, like I said earlier, barack H. Obama has clearly shown and confessed to being christian so the religious name doesn't come into play, no matter how much you would like to say it.

I didn't create the thread, dipshit. It was one of your lefty buddies.

And frankly I think you know this but continue to post to get ires up and to push the political hacking notion the tone gives off. Thought you were a little better than this.

This is a 2-way conversation. You and your lefty buddies have pushed this conversation far further than I ever wished it to go. If you are going to continue to take pot-shots at me, I am going to expound upon the comments I've made.

"yet it's ho-hum when various lefties link exclusively to lefty-sites and with far greater frequency than I."

Why don't you just post what you want from wherever you want and stop your incessant whining?

In other words, grow up.

I realize a prolonged adolescent attitude combined with a persecution complex is de rigueur on the Right but, please, spare us the moaning and groaning.

Oh, and just to be very clear:

Obama is a Christian. He's clearly been so for over 20 years.

Any notion that he'd try to enact Sharia law is absurd on its face. He is WAY too liberal in his views. His view on abortion alone is a clear indication that he doesn't have a traditional Muslim bone in his body.

No shit. But, in Larry's world, it's somehow unbelievable that I, a conservative, would link primarilly to a conservative website yet it's ho-hum when various lefties link exclusively to lefty-sites and with far greater frequency than I.

No, it is the fact that you linked to such a political one sided sight to justify such a valid point. You actually thought the site would not convolute the actual origin of the name. You are better than this.

I realize a prolonged adolescent attitude combined with a persecution complex is de rigueur on the Right but, please, spare us the moaning and groaning.

what a laugh. lefties here all have something stuck up their ass going back to something in their past.

moaning and groaning? Hundreds and hundreds of threads on this blog posted by lefties with the sole purpose of "moaning and groaning"...

LOL

Why don't you just post what you want from wherever you want and stop your incessant whining?

Asshole, it was Larry who whined about which sources I have chosen to cite. I was simply pointing out his selective outrage.

And then, the self-retorting retort:

In other words, grow up.

Followed by:

I realize a prolonged adolescent attitude combined with a persecution complex is de rigueur on the Right but, please, spare us the moaning and groaning.

Too funny.

His view on abortion alone

Abortions are allowed in Islamic law (at least in the one I have studied) upto the second trimester. After that, only in an emergency.

There is no hard law against abortion.

"Asshole, it was Larry who whined about which sources I have chosen to cite. I was simply pointing out his selective outrage."

And it was you who started pissing and moaning.

I realize it's funny that a prolonged adolescent attitude combined with a persecution complex is de rigueur on the Right.

So, Jeff, reward yourself with a Bozo the Clown outfit this Halloween.

No, it is the fact that you linked to such a political one sided sight to justify such a valid point. You actually thought the site would not convolute the actual origin of the name. You are better than this.

The guy is the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam.

Regardless, if the guy is wrong, he's wrong. He cited what the names mean in Islam.

My comment was straightforward: The names are Muslim names, and I then provided their meaning within Islam. If the origins of these names go back further - fine.

JJ,

I know you didn't create this thread, it just seems strange how you continue to defend something you know to be untrue in the tone of context in which you are posting.

Now I could careless about obama but I do know enough not to push something that just isn't there, it demeans the other valid posts I may support.

And it was you who started pissing and moaning.

Not at all. It was Larry who was pissing and moaning and it was I who pointed out his hypocrisy.

So, Jeff, reward yourself with a Bozo the Clown outfit this Halloween.

You just made FrankF55 sound funny.

And it was you who started pissing and moaning.

Bullshit! you are the one pissing and moaning. you don't like being called out for citing the huffington post all the time.

you think that goes unnoticed?

I know you didn't create this thread, it just seems strange how you continue to defend something you know to be untrue in the tone of context in which you are posting.

I think it's simply a matter of collectively poor communication. I never intended for any of this to go so far as I didn't think my original comment was a contentious one.

Well, at least JJ knows now that his conservative sight may not always attribute to total validity in order to provide to their political agenda.

The names are Muslim names

I had never heard of any "barrack" and nor of any "obama" until Mogambo came along. These are not "muslim names" since I have never heard of them.

I do know many Muslims have "Hussein" as a name... but then many Muslims are called "Jesus" as well.

The winged horsey critter was a "Burraq" and blessings are called "barkat". (and no, these are not common names at all.. I have never heard anyone name their kid after a horse)

I have no idea which name his family bastardized.

I had never heard of any "barrack" and nor of any "obama" until Mogambo came along. These are not "muslim names" since I have never heard of them.

So, did this guy just fabricate their meanings within Islam?

you don't like being called out for citing the huffington post all the time.
you think that goes unnoticed?
#103 | Posted by eberly at 2008-10-15 08:58 AM

"Called out"? WTF are you talking about? You sound like a short-circuiting klaxon. What difference does it make what I cite? I cite Fortean Times, the NYT, WP, UK Times, Landover Baptist, Huffington, whatever. You care? Get a life. Maybe you can go trick-or-treating with little Jeffrey.

JJ,

I suspect the few on this thread who have been upset with you expected or assumed you were more versed in what you actually post.

I know you are a conservative, but I would not even think of using a lefty site to justify a historical origin such as a name for mccain or palin, it would invalidate the post as you well know.

Now on political issues that is a different story but on rhetorical character bashing I find it beneath good conversation.

"Barack" is the Swahili form of the Arabic "Barak" and the Hebrew "Baruch," both of which mean "blessed." "Obama" is obviously not an Arabic name.

I have heard of Jews with a name like "Barak"... never a Muslim.

But I do know a guy called Mr.Brakat.. Mr.Blessed.

These are language and culture specific names... not necessarily "Islamic".

"And you're gonna be Mr.Pink..."

"But I don't wanna be Mr.Pink!"

Mr.Brakat.. Mr.Blessed.

Mr.Barkat

I have also known people with hillbilly names like "Allah-Ditta" (gift from God).

These people, later in life, try to save themselves from embarrassment by using their initials only, AD.

So, did this guy just fabricate their meanings within Islam?

When you stare at clouds long enough, you see bunny rabbits and pizzas.

I also know a Mr.Burqi (Mr.Lightning)... Burq is lightning. Nothing at all to do with Islam... everything to do with the Arabic language.

I have also known people with hillbilly names like "Allah-Ditta" (gift from God).
#113 | Posted by Tosser

I just got a headache trying to imagine what a hillbilly muslim might be like.

hillbilly muslim

Exactly like your hillbillies. You have to see it to believe it.

You sound like a short-circuiting klaxon.

control the rage doc.

what it would mean.......and I am sure this has already been pointed out with someone with common sense about it is maybe even more important than IF he really was

and that is this

IT WOULD MEAN THAT HE HAS BEEN A LIAR THE WHOLE TIME............
of course after blowjob billy, the left is used to loving liars.........

I AM JUST TELLING ALL OF YOU

I CAN get that arkansas sack of shit into any thread you can come up with..................LOL

I can get failed educator and Bl2 in any sentence you come up with.

"that arkansas sack of shit"

What was it you hated the most: the worldwide respect, the Dow more than tripling, actually convicting terrorists, or the balanced budget?

dow........have to add the dotcom explosion into ANY discussion of that and you know it

and of course a republican congress was there almost the entire time........thanks for the help

and I AM not opposed to going back to pay as you go at all..........states do it all the time, with a line item veto of course..........

I can get failed educator and Bl2 in any sentence you come up with.

#120 | Posted by rastaninja at 2008-10-16 11:39 AM

not even close dipshit........

but you keep trying there........lol

"dow........have to add the dotcom explosion into ANY discussion of that and you know it"

Yup.

And even if you pin the post 9/11 lows on Clinton (not fair, but...), he still oversaw a 150% rise in the Dow.

Versus Bush: Less Than Zero.

and of course bush also started off with the recession that is a normal part of any economic CYCLE..............

"of course bush also started off with the recession"

No, he didn't. Read a book, for God's sake. Recession already has a definition.