Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Monday, October 13, 2008

Ken Dilanian: Both parties in Congress played important roles in setting the stage for the ongoing financial meltdown. They did so in moves that reflected not just their ideological priorities, but also the wishes of special interests that have spent millions aggressively lobbying Washington and contributing to lawmakers' campaigns.

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Simple.... Congressman get paid too much and do too little. Fire them all!

When the Country is running fine they golf, long lunches, vacation and we the tax payers pay for it all.

Time to get tough and vote them out. Even if it is all of them. Dems and Repubs!

At last a good media write up of the DC Pig's

Finest Government money can buy.

Pigs at the trough...

A goldmine of information:
www.lewrockwell.com

Pigs at the trough...

#5 | Posted by Shawn at 2008-10-13 10:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow. That's, like, deep. Dude, where do you come up with this stuff? (And what the fuck would you have said could you string a coherent thought together and express it with words?)

First way to fix our GOV. is to install a 3 term term limit on ALL elected positions outside of the POTUS which already has a 2 term limit.

Second, NO two members of the same imidiate family my be employed by the GOV.

Third, PAy cuts all around for Reps and Senators.

Forth, once your term is Up you are Executed, regardless of job preformance.

Just some thoughts

One of the MAJOR causes of the CURRENT economic crisis, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 (which repealed certain parts of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 which had previously prohibited bank holding companies from owning other financial services). It also contained restrictions against redlining at the insistence of the Democrats another factor in the current situation. It was passed by Congress by votes of (House) 362-57 and (Senate) 90-8. It was signed by Democrat President Clinton at the urging of his Democrat Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin (who not so coincidentally went on to become Director of the Citigroup a major beneficiary of this act). Mr. Rubin, who is currently one of Democrat 0bama's chief economic advisers, along with Alan Greenspan opposed the regulation of derivatives another major factor in the current financial situation.

The gist of what I'm saying here is that for the Democrats to be blaming the Republicans for the current situation is so laughable that they should be embarrassed to even be bringing the subject of blame up. The recently passed pork laden handout to Wall St. was passed overwhelming with Democrat support. I say "pork laden" cause amongst other things the bill's numerous amendments included tax breaks and credit extensions for Auto Racing Tracks, Film and TV Production, Wool Research, "Certain wooden arrows designed for use by children" and Litigants in the 1989 Exxon-Valdez oil spill.

Until American voters stop limiting themselves to voting for only Democrat or Republican candidates the problems we face as a nation will only multiply. This farce has been perpetuated by both the Democrats and Republicans that we only have two choices (if you're honest with yourself you'll admit that there ain't 2 damn cents worth of difference between the two). The American voter has naively bought into this lie (which is destroying our country) lock, stock and barrel.

Don't waste your vote for more of the same tired old BS of "change" that both the Democrats and Republicans promise vote for a third party candidate.

Forth, once your term is Up you are Executed, regardless of job preformance.

I guess we would have alot of cancer and aids victims as our representatives.

Great article. It's about time we see a report where a side was not take. Both Democrats and Republicans are guilty.

We can impose term limits by voting them out. I have been advocating this for some time. I will be voting out my incumbants in a few weeks. I encourage everyone to do the same. VOTE THEM OUT!!!

Well put Scotchy

"A goldmine of information:
www.lewrockwell.com"

Nothing but fool's gold there.

Scooby you may vote for the challenger, but there are whole lot of brain deads out there that are "Gunna vote Democrat(or Republican) cause my daddy did!" Its the same kinda people who are pissed they cant vote a "straight Republican( or Democrate) Ticket in alot of States anymore. Till you can find a way to educate these peopel into how badly they are getting fucked in the ass by the Republicans, while the Democrates are choking them from the front, we are not going to see any meaningfull "change".

Real "change" comes from revolution. And that is what we need.

And where were all these complaints when folks were pulling massive amounts of equity out of their homes and making nice profits flipping houses?

And tell me, who plans on voting against the incumbent in their district? Or is that pig at the trough someone else's congressman?

-And tell me, who plans on voting against the incumbent in their district?

In addition to scooby, that is.

Gottruth

I agree. There are so many dead heads out there the only way to correct the situation is to have a good old fashioned revolution.

Television is the government's friend. So many people are caught up in the fantasies of tv (American Idol, Survivor and my favorite: I am a dead head reality tv watcher), their brains have become mush. Everybody's watching tv but nobody watching the Government.

Every one of these "people" and i use that term lightly with maybe the exception of possibly 5 out of all The Reps, and Congressmen are just terrible people. And they are ALL to blame and people who defend them are just as terrible. Remeber, when you pick the "lesser" of two evils, you have still choosen evil.

I always vote: CHALLENGER

It's time to clean up government and vote the scum out of office. Mr Clean for President.

I'm ScoobyMagoo and I approve this message!

It must be the Republicans fault because I've been hearing for nearly two year from the "conservatives" on this site how the Democratic congress have not gotten anything done.

Yeah, great article...except it doesn't live up to it's own hype: it tries to make it sound like a partisan issue when it wasn't really.

To wit: A REPUBLICAN congress sent a bill to Clinton (think he's 'liberal'? Check out NAFTA) with a two-thirds majority to further limit regulations -- signing it didn't matter. Republicans are saying 'trust business -- it knows what it is doing'.

FIVE YEARS LATER (WTF?), Republicans are 'concerned' that Freddie/Fannie are buying too many bad loans -- loans that are being made at the speed of light by speculative buyers ('flip that house'?) and not in large part by low income buyers (studies have shown that most of the people in default are in upper income brackets [here's a couple of examples: www.milehigh.com and www.realestatejournal.com ])
So we can't really blame the poor people that the GSEs were 'mandated' to help.

Also of note is that Freddie/Fannie did most of their fund raising for who? That's right: Republicans.

So again, this sounds to me more like:
Look at how the Democrats frak things up again by first trusting us to do what we said we were going to do and then by not rushing in to stop us from fraking things up further and by finally not coming up with a fix for when we've finished fraking things up.

Thank you big business and the Republican toads that worship you.

First way to fix our GOV. is to install a 3 term term limit on ALL elected positions outside of the POTUS which already has a 2 term limit.

Third, PAy cuts all around for Reps and Senators.

Just some thoughts

#8 | Posted by GotTruth at 2008-10-13 10:58 PM | Reply

Wrong-O

1. Term limits only transfer the power to unelected and faceless bureaucrats and Congressional staffers. They already write the majority of laws and regulations that create such a mess.

You want them to have even more authority? With no accountability?

2. Members of Congress should get paid $1 million a year. Seriously.

Do you know what it costs to live in the D.C. area? You pay them the current rate and all you get are whores and scoundrels: people who will sell their vote to pay the rent.

Or even worse, you get filthy rich people (Pelosi) with no concept of reality.

I would, however, impose a financial penalty on laws passed. Charge them $100 for every spending bill they approve.

1. Term limits only transfer the power to unelected and faceless bureaucrats and Congressional staffers. They already write the majority of laws and regulations that create such a mess.

You want them to have even more authority? With no accountability?

Can anyone make sense of this, it appears to just be a circle jerk.

Do you know what it costs to live in the D.C. area? You pay them the current rate and all you get are whores and scoundrels: people who will sell their vote to pay the rent.

Huh?

Who gives a shit what it cost in DC. Everything else is currently in practice.

Why isn't our congress working all year long, still have not figured that one out.

Congress did help break the economy, they broke the economy and they are still doing nothing to fix it.

Obama is part of this, if you don't thinks so you're just foolin yourself.

Can you tell me if it was this Act of 1999 that loosened the reigns on insurance companies allowing them to get involved in banking and lending?

I ask this because it has struck me that AIG is an insurance company and I know there have not been big catastrophic events to cause insurance companies to have to pay out big claims. So AIG bankrupt because what they were involved in CDO's ?

I remember in the Spring of 2004 BEFORE the hurricanes hit us in Florida that my homeowners insurance shot up 44%. I was listening to Clark Howard on the radio and he stated that STate Farm and other insurance companies were raising rates because they had lost tons of money that they had invested in the stock market. Had nothing to do with the underwriting and any losses there but in the damn market.

But that can't be. After all, Nancy Piglosi and Harry "Tales from the Crypt" Ried are the DEMOCRATS who RUN Congress and the economy failing is the fault of the Republicans!

If you don't believe me, just ask "The Messiah" himself. He says it thousands of times every day in his political ads.

Of course he ignores Barney Frank and his "girlfriend" from Fannie Mae, Moses, who designed the very sub-prime mortgages that caused the system to fail.

But we can just ignore that and listen to "The Messiah's" pearls of wisdom about how the economy operates. After all he has been taught by the finest business minds in America, Antoin Rezko and Allison Davis... who added their little bit to the collapse by losing $43 MILLION of taxpayer money on their apartment buildings, most of them right in "The Messiah's" own State Senate District.

"#28 | Posted by TheShyGuy at 2008-10-14 06:33 AM "

Your record is stuck.

I did just hear that obama may name jamie dimon as Treasurer, which would be a master stroke. alo here the eugene ludwig may be another of his advisors. BOTH are very good pics...

(See I am trying to be optimistic!!!)

Never enough money to help people. Always enough money to help Corporations that oppose the well being of working people for their own short term profits sake. Cheney told Shrub, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. So, while heavily in debt, lets go kill a bunch of Iraqis, it'll take the price of gasoline over the top of every other inflated overmortgaged commodity or asset. Greenspan's wealth creation plan.

Bush heavily promoting "the ownership society" yet today we hear the righie tighties rewriting that history in order to deflect balme from where it really belongs.

Free Market Capitalists depend on mythology to perpetuate their natural advantages. When that fails we hear privatize profits, socialize risk, but only for those in bed with Paulson.

In America crooks control the media and with it the vote. Politicians conspire with Capitalists using Religion and stupidity to rape pillage and plunder. What makes them crooked is one set of rules for them, another for everyone else.

Let the criminal investigations begin. Oh, I almost forgot, Democrats and Republicans are in bed with the criminals and will block any substantive investigation.

After the last debate Bill Mahre had Ralph Nader on. He provided a refreshing dose of honest dialogue.

Bi-Partisan has been the war cry during much of this campaign, and if ever there were a bi-partisan issue, it's the financial mess.

Did Frank, Dodd and others help to cause this? absolutely.. are Paulson and others in the Bush administration culpable? Most certainly..

I keep looking for the adults in either party to stand up and say "enough," but thus far, no one is standing.

It's disgusting.

hmm i thought everything was bush's fault?

interesting this comes out, i was watching cnn this weekend and the host and another guest actually pointed the finger at dems and their everyone deserves a house policy, it was at the least, shocking

obama admits to wealth distribution....not wanting to punish your success... obama wants the people who dont work to have what those that succeed have.

www.breitbart.tv

hey what do you know, the dems provide their own october surprise.

mahoney from florida

acorn

the mortgage crisis

"the mortgage crisis"

Nice try.

"The Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982 (Pub.L. 97-320, H.R. 6267, enacted 1982-10-15) is an Act of Congress, that deregulated the Savings and Loan industry. This Act turned out to be one of many contributing factors that led to the Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s.[1]

The bill, whose full title was "An Act to revitalize the housing industry by strengthening the financial stability of home mortgage lending institutions and ensuring the availability of home mortgage loans," was a Reagan Administration initiative.[2]"

en.wikipedia.org

"In 2003, the Federal Reserve initiated policies to combat the risk of deflation. As part of their policies, the Fed dramatically cut its federal-funds interest rate in order to temporarily encourage consumer spending and stimulate the housing market."

www.armtofixed.com

"All in all, I think we hit the jackpot."

"What this legislation does is expand the powers of thrift institutions by permitting the industry to make commercial loans and increase their consumer lending. It reduces their exposure to changes in the housing market and in interest rate levels. This in turn will make the thrift industry a stronger, more effective force in financing housing for millions of Americans in the years to come.

Unfortunately, this legislation does not deal with the important question of delivery of other financial services, including securities activities by banks and other depository institutions."

"Thank you all again. I'm very pleased to sign this Garn-St Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982."

-Ronald Reagan

It all comes from 'political correct'. A house for everybody. That includs 5 million illegals.

so zat......what did clinton say after he signed the deregulation act in 1999? I saw the picture and he was smiling.......or was that because some fat little intern was waiting on him with a pizza and a cigar..............

and oh yeah


joe biden was in that same picture because he was all for it too........


so you can reproduce history all you want as long as you dont just pick out your own.......

and I am reading mccullouchs........."john adams"

and I just read about the stamp act and how the colonist revolted against that..........
is there another tea party in our future as well.........

"In 1999 Phil Gramm, McCain's economic adviser, started legislation that would deregulate America."

www.politicaljackass.com

It was veto-proof thanks the the Contract on America.

"John McCain voted for Gramm-Leach-Bliley. Joe Biden voted NO. The act passed 54-44, mostly a party line vote. Yes, Clinton signed the law. But Joe Biden was against it.

With the 1930's Glass-Steagall Act repealed, the theory was competition could happen now in financial services. The evil enemy of regulation was gone, free markets would reign. Mergers happened that couldn't before. A broader range of institutions could offer a broader range of products. Which grew to include obscure, unregulated financial products with no collateral to support them. Like sub-prime mortgages. Regulated banks couldn't take those kinds of risks. Unregulated companies could."

Go back to drinking your Sterno.

Anatomy of a Scandal
Posted by Jeffrey Lord on 10.14.08 @ 6:09AM

There is only one word for it.

That word is "scandal."

That scandal is rapidly metastasizing, too. Overtaking you, your family, your business, your kid's education and, last but certainly not least, the entire global economy.

Begin with the scarlet philosophical thread that takes expression from the following people in their own distinctive styles.

William Ayers: "I am a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist ... Maybe I'm the last communist who is willing to admit it.The ethics of Communism still appeal to me."

Jeremiah Wright: "God damn America, for treating our citizens as less than human."

Jimmy Carter: In a June 16, 1976 presentation to the Democrats' platform committee, Carter promised that America under a Carter administration would help the poor by putting "Greater effort to direct mortgage money into the financing of private housing ."

Bill Clinton and Al Gore: Writing in their 1992 campaign book Putting People First, the two promised if elected they would: "Ease the credit crunch in our inner citiesto prevent redlining (and) require financial institutions to invest in homes in their communities."

Franklin Raines: Like Carter, on this subject Clinton and Gore were as good as their word, installing Clinton Budget Director Franklin Raines to run Fannie Mae and get the job done. Raines did just what he was asked to do. As the New York Times reported on September 30, 1999:

''Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements,'' said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae's chairman and chief executive officer. ''Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market."
Barack Obama: "I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career."

And last but not least

ACORN: As Stanley Kurtz over at NRO and Sol Stern of City Journal have both uncovered, a driving force of ACORN -- quite aside from accusations that it has engaged in massive fraud in registering voters -- has been to exert political pressure on banks to give loans to those otherwise unqualified. In the name, of course, of fairness. Reported Stern on ACORN back in 2003:

ACORN's anti-capitalism leads it to deep distrust of capitalism's central instruments -- the banks and other financial institutions that ACORN would class high among those "irresponsible largest businesses." ACORN loudly campaigns against "predatory lending," "redlining," and other forms of presumed abuse by financial institutions that supposedly hinder the minority poor from getting the capital needed for home buying and business start-ups. As an antidote, ACORN has latched on to a 1977 federal law, the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which was aimed at ensuring that banks do not discriminate against poor minority communities. Under its rules, banks must go through a costly process of reporting where and to whom they lend money, to show that they don't discriminate. There are no official penalties for banks that get less than satisfactory ratings from the regulators on this issue. But when banks need approval for mergers or acquisitions, the CRA gives "community groups" the opportunity to lodge complaints against them, alleging suspect lending practices. If there's even the appearance of discrimination, the regulators may put the bank's deal on hold.
How did the banks respond to this political pressure from ACORN to lend money to financially unqualified applicants? Says Stern:

ACORN has developed a lucrative niche as an "advisor" to banks seeking regulatory approvals. Thus we have J. P. Morgan & Company, the legatee of the man who once symbolized for many all that was supposedly evil about American capitalism, suddenly donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN. This act of generosity and civic-mindedness came, interestingly, just as Morgan was asking bank regulators for approval of a merger with Chase Manhattan. Not to be outdone, Chase also decided to grant more than $200,000 to ACORN.
Stern concludes by quoting one "prominent consultant to the financial industry, who preferred to remain anonymous" as saying this: "The banks know they are being held up, but they are not going to fight over this. They look at it as a cost of doing business."

The cost of doing business. Wow. Remember that the next time you look at what's left of your portfolio.

Paying what amounts to blackmail money to appease the political pressures from ACORN -- while letting ACORN have their way with banks and financial institutions -- has now, incredibly, helped bring millions of Americans -- perhaps you, dear reader -- to the brink of bankruptcy. Stocks, mutual funds, 401k's, pensions, credit -- the financial guts of a family, a business, and in turn the underlying financial foundation of the U.S. government itself -- are now in serious, serious trouble. Entire Wall Street institutions are utterly collapsed. Somewhere Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright are surely laughing hysterically.

This is in real part because of ACORN, the self-same organization that is now being investigated for massive voter fraud in key electoral states from Pennsylvania to Nevada. The same organization which Barack Obama himself once counseled in his role as a "community organizer." (You wanted to know what a community organizer does? Look at the condition of your 401k and you will now get it immediately.) And, not to be forgotten, ACORN shares some shade of the philosophical thread that runs in varying hues from the blood red fuses of Bill Ayers bombs to the purple prose of Jeremiah Wright's sermons to the housing policies advocated and implemented by Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Al Gore and defended by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and an army of Democrats captured on videotape.

DO YOU GET the picture here? Do you see the thread? William Ayers thought America was so unfair he became a self-described "radical Leftist" who expressed his views on American capitalism by bombing the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon. Jeremiah Wright his pulpit to preach that America was so unfair because it treated our own citizens as "less than human." Jimmy Carter was so disturbed at the lack of fairness in the free market he vowed that if he were elected president in 1976 he would put "greater effort" into making sure the government could "direct mortgage money" to housing for the poor. He was as good as his word, getting the Community Reinvestment Act passed in 1977. The purpose of the Carter legislation was to reduce "discriminatory" credit practices affecting the poor. Like clockwork, this in turn opened the door for ACORN. Fannie Mae boss Franklin Raines, the Clinton appointee who walked away from the agency with $90 million, was so intent on making things fair for those "millions of families" unable to buy homes (as Clinton and Gore had promised in 1992) that he reduced "down payment requirements," a key tenet of ACORN.

Here's Stanley Kurtz -- way back in May -- on the findings of his investigation into Barack Obama and ACORN: "Obama's ties to Acorn -- arguably the most politically radical large-scale activist group in the country -- are wide, deep, and longstanding."

In other words, working with ACORN was part of Obama's self-appointed role as a "community organizer." Long before having any association with ACORN had the serious potential, as it now suddenly very much does, of being a political liability, Obama sought and received the endorsement of its political arm for his presidential campaign. These were his old buddies, so, of course, he got it. Why not? After all, in his own words at the time:

"I come out of a grassroots organizing background. That's what I did for three and half years before I went to law school. That's the reason I moved to Chicago was to organize. So this is something that I know personally, the work you do, the importance of it. I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work."
Are we clear here? Barack Obama not only was the counsel for ACORN as part of his "community organizer" role he considered "the work you do" important. Said he: "We appreciate your work." He was proud to be "fighting alongside ACORN on issues" it cared about. And what do we now know the results of ACORN's work and its issues to be? Starkly and very simply put they have:

1. Undermined the financial stability of you, your family, your business and your government with a financial collapse unrivaled since the Great Depression.

2. Flooded battleground states in this election with a massive attempt at fraudulent voter registration that is on the verge of stealing the presidency of the United States for Obama.

One question.

WHERE IS JOHN McCAIN?????????

This is a blossoming scandal that will make Watergate look like a piker. And someone has the pardon me, but the word that comes to mind is "stupidity".to say that Ayers and Wright and the ideology of what and why they did what they did have no connection to where we are right this minute? Are they kidding? That bright, scarlet philosophical thread that runs straight from the bombs of Bill Ayers to the sermons of Jeremiah Wright to the political shenanigans of Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd has gradually revealed itself to be a very long fuse to a spectacular explosion of financial and political scandal. An explosion linking everything from the political blackmail of institutions like J.P. Morgan to the financial manipulations of Franklin Raines and Fannie Mae and stunningly connects to ACORN and Obama himself. Last and certainly not least, this same fuse led directly to the destruction of your personal wealth -- your money -- and is even now poised to steal your votes and destroy the possibility of an honest election.

Two points:

* If the McCain campaign cannot connect all these dots for voters -- in the last debate, on the stump, in its commercials and with its surrogates -- this will go down in history as a spectacular example of political malpractice.

* Second, and without question of more importance. If in fact this election produces a majority for Obama from voters who do not yet see the connection between ACORN, Obama, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Fannie Mae and the resulting status of their own personal financial well-being and that of, quite literally, the entire global economy, there are two words for the day after an Obama election. With a tip of the hat to Ben Stein they are these:

Special Prosecutor.

"In 1999 Phil Gramm, McCain's economic adviser, started legislation that would deregulate America."

It was veto-proof thanks the the Contract on America.

#41 | Posted by Zatoichi

Deregulation was not the problem ace.

You tell me why someone would make a loan to someone that couldn't repay? Is that the way to run a bank? Would you do it?

The lenders were forced into it by congress who wanted a home for everyone because that was the "PC" way to do it.

True that Sniper. But the crushing of the economy was a bipartisan effort. It just goes to show you what you get from "crossing the aisle" or "bringing the two parties together". All those used up chestnuts mean nothing. Bringing the two parties together is like mixing arsenic and cyanide. They are both poison.

How is it possible that a financial crisis of such magnitude hit with such suddenness and urgency, catching finance ministries and central banks unaware?

If the problem is what the public has been told, namely that defaulting subprime mortgages are reducing the income flows through to the holders of the mortgage backed securities, why isn't the bailout money being used to refinance the defaulting mortgages and to pay off the foreclosed mortgages? That would restore the value of the mortgage backed securities, and it would not be necessary to pour huge amounts of taxpayers' money into recapitalizing banks and purchasing their bad assets.

There is not an unmanageable number of defaulting mortgages. According to the US Treasury estimate, 90-93% of the mortgages are good. How does a 7% or 10% default rate on US mortgages translate into a systemic worldwide financial crisis?

Why does Paulson's (BushCo's) solution fail to address the problem of the mortgages? Instead, the solution directs public money into an increasingly concentrated private financial sector, the management of which is not only vastly overpaid, but also has escaped accountability for the financial chicanery that, allegedly, threatens systemic financial meltdown unless bailed out by the taxpayers.

This bailout doesn't pass the smell test.

Excerpted from Paul Craig Roberts @ Counterpunch

First way to fix our GOV. is to install a 3 term term limit on ALL elected positions outside of the POTUS which already has a 2 term limit.

Third, PAy cuts all around for Reps and Senators.

Just some thoughts

#8 | Posted by GotTruth at 2008

EXCELLENT IDEA BUT WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION TO DO IT. NOTHING IN CONSTITUTION ABOUT IT AND CONSTITUTION DOES SPEAK DIRECTLY OF THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE OFFICE...

Does the consitution say anything about term limits? Congress envoked that on the president without an amendment so it should work for congress too.

I say, throw all of them out every 6 years. Take away their bennifit package.

Make them serve us, not rape us.

"Congress envoked(sic) that on the president without an amendment so it should work for congress too."

Amendment 22 - Presidential Term Limits. Ratified 2/27/1951. History

1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.

Idiot.

SIMPLE..... Taxes! More and more and keep them coming!

#48 | Posted by nutcase at 2008-10-14 02:38 PM

If the problem is what the public has been told, namely that defaulting subprime mortgages are reducing the income flows through to the holders of the mortgage backed securities, why isn't the bailout money being used to refinance the defaulting mortgages and to pay off the foreclosed mortgages?

Well, because the magnitude of the "unsecured portion" of the mortgages is so great that the amount of capital to refinance them or pay them off is unavailable.

And with the decreasing value of the grossly overpriced properties, the portion unsecured is growing larger.

These loans were made without any equity or "negative equity" initially, and with the decrease in values, the portion secured is drastically decreasing.

Even worse, the borrowers don't have the incomes to pay off the loans. A good portion of the borrowers were innumerate and couldn't calculate the impossibility of their incomes being insufficient to pay all of their bills. Recall, that income was a matter of unvalidated declaration, so that many claimed spurious income.

Why does Paulson's (BushCo's) solution fail to address the problem of the mortgages? Instead, the solution directs public money into an increasingly concentrated private financial sector, the management of which is not only vastly overpaid, but also has escaped accountability for the financial chicanery that, allegedly, threatens systemic financial meltdown unless bailed out by the taxpayers.

Good points. It was a rush to judgment with the funding doing little to increase the liquidity of those lenders who needed funds for commercial business loans and consumer borrowing. The bailout was money misspent.

The huge bill passed overnight was unvetted and included $140 billion in earmarks. As a rule of thumb approximation, each billion dollars in debt charges every American, man woman and child with $3.33, so these gratuitous gifts alone, payoffs to favored constituents, cost each American, man, woman, and child, $446 (plus accumulating interest).

This bailout doesn't pass the smell test.

Indeed.


My word, johnson at it again with the saga's.

It's just too difficult for him to post his thoughts in a few lines.

The hedge fund managers must have been in a fiduciary relationship to their investors. I wonder how they can not be responsible for either or both, civil or criminal fraud? And this would require them to disgorge profits. They were most probably extremely bright people, who profited greatly from the volume of investments, and who were or should have been aware of the nature of the "investments" as dubious paper, which was not secured as represented. Did these hedge fund managers perform the due diligence which they were charged to do by virtue of their positions and function?

Some sharp lawyers are probably even now drawing up documents to initiate litigation. We'll eventually learn how culpable and corrupt our politicians are if they confer immunity on those corruptly involved.

I have heard a rumor, and haven't investigated it to validate it, that the managers of the bailout are empowered by that law to decalre that another $2 trillion is required, and that the legislation as it now exists permits that by executive fiat. It sounds bizarre. But then the entire proposition is from the contrivances to "give" property away as if it were merely a matter of instransigence preventing the acquisition of property by "the poor" and "minorities," with the attendant problems compounded by human avarice as the opportunity to profit from these misbegotten plans became obvious to the cognescenti.

Oops! Cognoscenti.

"My word, johnson at it again with the saga's."

And there he goes again. He's like a drug addict, addicted to words.

If you can't say what you want to say in two or three sentences, then you should just shut the fuck up. That's my philosophy, and everyone who disagrees is a girle boy.

er, girlie boy.

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