Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Thursday, October 09, 2008

Todd Palin talked with over a dozen Alaska state officials, many of them repeatedly, in his crusade to get his wife's former brother-in-law Mike Wooten fired as a state trooper, he acknowledged in a sworn statement. "I had hundreds of conversations and communications about Trooper Wooten over the last several years," Palin wrote. "I talked about Wooten so much over the years that my wife told me to stop talking about it with her."

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How convienient.

You betcha!

Gee, why would officials even talk to him if he wasn't Mr. Sarah Palin.

SURE he did, wink wink.


Gee, why would officials even talk to him if he wasn't Mr. Sarah Palin.

#3 | Posted by danni


Who the fuck cares?


WHY IS THIS A BIG DEAL?

you people are grasping at straws

Now Barney Frank wiping out the savings of Retirees -- THAT'S A BIG DEAL, don't you think

morons!

It's abuse of power for the Palins to use her political office to get revenge against a former family member. It's even worse for them to fire the state's top police official because he wouldn't go along with their plans. That's why it matters.

This was supposed to make the situation better for Sara?

The fact that her husband gets involved with official business while she remains 'In the Dark'?

huh... I missed that fucking meeting.......

you people are grasping at straws

#5 | Posted by Eddie


Yeah, cylindrical objects designed to aid one whilst drinking, grasping at them. "You people" seem to be kicking the righties in the nuts lately.

If the cop in question were beating up the sister-in-law of a Democratic governor, and tasering his child, I'm somewhat certain the predictable cadre of DR lefties would be easily roused to his defense.

But the governor in question is a Republican, so they must dutifully do all they can to protect the reputation of a bullying, child abusing, psycho police officer. Ironic, eh?

You have to wonder how a traitorous secessionist like Toad Palin could possibly want his wife to run the country.

He despises America and Americans (these are the words of his political Party leaders) so why should we expect his wife to give a shit about this Nation?

Seems like one of the candidates truly is 'palling around with terrorists'....as in 'on the campaign trail'.

If the cop in question were beating up the sister-in-law of a Democratic governor, and tasering his child, I'm somewhat certain the predictable cadre of DR lefties would be easily roused to his defense.

But the governor in question is a Republican, so they must dutifully do all they can to protect the reputation of a bullying, child abusing, psycho police officer. Ironic, eh?

#10 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-10-09 04:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good boy. You learned your Rovian talking points so well.

"But the governor in question is a Republican, so they must dutifully do all they can to protect the reputation of a bullying, child abusing, psycho police officer. Ironic, eh?"

I haven't read any attempts to protect the reputation of the cop, it is about ABUSE OF POWER.
If a governor can use her power for personal use then what stops her from using it when it isn't a bad cop???? It's called obeying the law. Of course after 8 years of Bush/Rove we Americans aren't used to demanding that our leaders actually do obey the law.

"WHY IS THIS A BIG DEAL?"

It's an abuse of power, genius.

"If the cop in question were beating up the sister-in-law of a Democratic governor, and tasering his child, I'm somewhat certain the predictable cadre of DR lefties would be easily roused to his defense."

I can tell you without a doubt that I could care less what party she's from. This is an abuse of power. If the stuff you are alleging really happened, they should have called the cops and had it documented. The didn't. Instead, they went the weasely route of going behind the scenes. So tought shit on them when they don't get their way.

Put yourself in the position of the guy being pressured to fire the trooper: Do you fire a man and deny him a living based solely on the word of his ex-sister in law? Does it seem fishy to you at all that this guy could such a maniac and not once did anyone call the cops on him? Do you consider at all that this trooper has a right to due process or do you fire him to score some brownie points?

He did the decent thing and didn't cave into pressure and got fired for it. We don't need more corrupt politicians who think they can just make up the rules as it suits them and I don't give a crap what party they are from...


Now Barney Frank wiping out the savings of Retirees -- THAT'S A BIG DEAL, don't you think

morons!

#6 | Posted by Eddie at 2008-10-09 04:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fellow Retorters, don;t waste your time with the one calling him/herself Eddie.

'Eddie' will call you a liar and ask for a link proving what you said. When the proof is shown (in this case, a VIDEO) Edie will claim that you proved his/her point and that you're still a liar (and now a 'dolt').

She will then go on to say that 'She Won' citing the initial statement as having nefarious intentions behind it, all while ignoring the simple fact that proof was provided.

This he/she is waste of your time. Stay clear of he/she as talking with children on the web is just plain creepy anyway.

rightisright knows what Irony is?

I thought he was a Republican.

If a governor can use her power for personal use then what stops her from using it when it isn't a bad cop????
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Let me know when that happens.

"Stay clear of he/she as talking with children on the web is just plain creepy anyway."

Good advice. Thanks, I will follow it.

"Let me know when that happens."

Posted by rightisright

Look up Ma Ferguson.

If the cop in question were beating up the sister-in-law of a Democratic governor, and tasering his child ...

The taser incident happened in the presence of Sarah's sister. She didn't complain about it until a year later when they were in the throes of a heated divorce, which makes the allegation suspect. People say crazy shit in a divorce.

Even if it was 100 percent true and entirely the guy's fault, though, it's still an abuse of power for the Palins to hound Alaskan state officials to fire him. She was governor, not dictator.

Irony is a lib supporting offshore drilling, now that Obama does. Irony is a lib supporting new coal plants, because that idiot Joe Biden now has to pretend he does. Irony is a lib who gives Obama a pass for supporting FISA. Irony is a lib who says that it's automatically sexual harrassment whenever a boss enters into a relationship with a subordinate, then become muted when Bill Clinton does. Irony is a lib who reflexively distrusts police, but will rally around an officer who uses a taser on his child and beats up his wife, because it's a Republican who wants to hound him out of his job.

Even if it was 100 percent true and entirely the guy's fault, though, it's still an abuse of power for the Palins to hound Alaskan state officials to fire him.
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Why? Isn't the governor Chief Executive? Godalmighty--what does a guy have to do to get fired from his police job in Alaska, if he's protected by a couple of friends in the right places?

Strange priorities you have. You think tasering a college kid at a political rally is excessive force, but not when it's a child?

Weird. I give you credit for your logical dexterity, though. I couldn't manage it myself. Are you a lawyer?


"WHY IS THIS A BIG DEAL?"


It's an abuse of power, genius.

#14 | Posted by sully

Wow. In Colorado, anyone can be fired for any reason. I guess I'm just used to this idea.

But, questioning her motives for firing someone from a job is making the Democrats look desperate.

Again. What's the big deal?

Sully, you don't buy into this Liberal idea of having to have a reason to fire someone do you?

If the guy gets to sue the State of Alaska for wrongful dismissal, then the state will have to pay and it will be a mistake. I've seen COUNTLESS people in very high positions doing the same thing. Sometimes their right, sometimes their wrong.

BUT THIS TIME, they turn it into a American episode as TrooperGate!

The Libs are truly scared of Palin. Why?

Abuse of power! LOL!!! You're an idiot Sully.

"But, questioning her motives for firing someone from a job is making the Democrats look desperate."

You're aware that the Republicans joined in on this, aren't you?

I realize there's no point in attempting to further your education, but you do need to know when your mouth is moving out a bit too far ahead of your knowledge.

You're aware that the Republicans joined in on this, aren't you?

They are trying to get it to stop.

Abuse of power! LOL!!! You're an idiot Sully.

#23 | Posted by Eddie


Can't you see the politics here?

Please tell me this NEVER EVER happens in government or the corporate world.

God. The stupid is fucking strong in this one.

Can we get an IGNORE button RCADE?

Seriously. Differing points of views are fine but this level of stupidity adds nothing to the conversation.

If anything, can we have the ability to change a poster's font color to baby puke yellow?

Look, the FUCKER threatened the lives of some of the Palin family members.


Do that to me and I'll use every bit of power I have to take you down.


Look, the FUCKER threatened the lives of some of the Palin family members.

So?

Do that to me and I'll use every bit of power I have to take you down.

So?

(You must be one of them tough guys huh?)

GOD, Please give me the strength to keep from laughing my ass off at idiots who can't see through political motives of the Left. And to restrain myself from outbursts of laughter when they take it so seriously.

(You must be one of them tough guys huh?)


#29 | Posted by Manypaths

Oh God. Please help me.....


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

"GOD, Please give me the strength to keep from laughing my ass off at idiots who can't see through political motives of the Left. And to restrain myself from outbursts of laughter when they take it so seriously."

Dear God, Please give me the strength to keep from laughing my ass off at idiots who can't see that the right have political motives as they criticizing the left for being oblivious of the same. And to retrain myself from outbursts of laughter when they take it so seriously."

Hi Eddie.

Nice to meet you!

Hi Lisa.

Been awhile.

HI Manypaths!

Hope you are well!!


It's abuse of power for the Palins to use her political office to get revenge against a former family member. It's even worse for them to fire the state's top police official because he wouldn't go along with their plans. That's why it matters.

#7 | Posted by rcade

As opposed to getting your wife a 300k/yr job. A great real estate deal in Chicago, attending a racist church and cavorting/campaigning with a domestic terrorist.

Too funny. Oh well. Both sides do it.

Manypants,

Yeah, I can hold my own but don't think of myself as a tough guy.


I actually think I'm a pretty fart smeller!

This argument is Moot.

3 months from now the word 'PALIN' will be nothing more than a punchline.

Better luck next time Rethugs......

So it's ok for the trooper to threathen to kill grandpa and taser the 11 year old, drink in the squad car and illegally kill a moose.

I guess all troopers should stay on the job when they threaten to kill a family member with a bullet to the head?


So Todd is acting as a citizen who happens to be married to the Governor in trying to get this guy prosecuted?


Let me know how the ACORN and Ayers moose manure goes for Obama.

Watch the media come to his aid and try to bury the illegal BS from ACORN--Obama paid them 800k during THIS campaign to get the vote out.

It appears that the Obama is going down--

"So it's ok for the trooper to threathen to kill grandpa and taser the 11 year old, drink in the squad car and illegally kill a moose."

No, it's not.

Nor does it justify using the power of the governor's office to retaliate.

See how that works? Just like your mother told you: two wrongs don't make a right.

"It appears that the Obama is going down--

#38 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-10-09 05:44 PM | Reply | Flag: Delusional

So Todd is acting as a citizen who happens to be married to the Governor in trying to get this guy prosecuted?

No, he tried to get him fired. That would be interferring with official business.

Had he done the right thing and went about it legally, like calling the authorities and letting them handle it, it would be different. But that is not what he did.

It appears that the Obama is going down--

See you in November!!!

Hi Eddie.


Nice to meet you!

#32 | Posted by Lisa


Hi Lisa.

Hi Lisa.

#42 | Posted by Eddie

you're just in time to watch me get beat up. If you're new, you'll quickly find that I challenge and take the absolute weakest side.


"It appears that the Obama is going down--


#38 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-10-09 05:44 PM | Reply | Flag: Delusional

#40 | Posted by nullifidian


No, I think Obama will be the next President of the US.

"Nor does it justify using the power of the governor's office to retaliate."


Were the offenses of the officer on a level that you would deem right to fire someone over?
I would think so.

If so then the rest of the system failed and this guy was left on the force.


Is it not the governor's job to oversee the state officials?

Why then was she stepping out of bound when she corrected an error on the part of the people who she was charged with supervising?


Would it have been ok if it had nothing to do with the family?

I for one would be appalled if a superior knew of these crimes and did nothing about them, why is it not ok for her to act in the best interest of the state, including her family?

Is it not the governor's job to oversee the state officials?

It is. But it isn't her husband's job.

Any of this getting through to you yet?

Are any of you that think palin should be hanged for this willing to justify the actions of the officer?

Are any of you willing to challenge the authority of the governor to deal with this kind of issue?


Are any of you willing to say definitively that if it had come to her attention and it wasn't her family she would not have acted the same?


But the real question is, if any of you would;d see it the same way if she had a little d next to her name?

"you're just in time to watch me get beat up. If you're new, you'll quickly find that I challenge and take the absolute weakest side. "

I don't like violence Eddie. I usually just laugh when people say silly things.

BTW...I am not new here. I've been here for a several years...just took a break.

No flirting...Bushlover will be jealous!!

hahahah

Where is that dork anyway?

Lisa,

I'm not a Bush Lover, but I am conservative, not a Libertarian, but am closer to what Ron Paul preaches than anything else. I am by no means a neocon and I truly hate Bush and anyone who supports him. Hopefully, Hopefully, Hopefully, that gang will be beaten this November.

I hope that the Democrats pick up more seats in Congress and win the Presidency.

That will shake up the Republican Party so that they start fumbling around in the dark looking for their conservative roots.

Better yet, I hope the Republicans will die and give way to a new party. But, in reality, the neocons have gotten a taste of Globalism and still have control over the banks, it ain't over.

Are any of you that think palin should be hanged for this willing to justify the actions of the officer?

Hung? We would just appreciate it if she cooperated with the investigation. Her failure to do so doesn't help her case or yours.

Are any of you willing to challenge the authority of the governor to deal with this kind of issue?

Having authority and abusing that authority are different things. How many other Troopers did she fire while Gov?

Are any of you willing to say definitively that if it had come to her attention and it wasn't her family she would not have acted the same?

Again, how many other troopers did she fire?

But the real question is, if any of you would;d see it the same way if she had a little d next to her name?

Most investigations of Dems have been welcomed around here. You are just trying to play a card that doesn't exist.

It makes you look pathetic.

Eddie:

I was referring to Bushlover, a neocon who posts here. He's really my buddy.

However, thank you for your political standings. I appreciate your honesty.

I vote my conscience.


Hi RCADE!!! Did ya miss me?

Ok so we have established that sarah palin did not act incorrectly.


Now

Is it unreasonable for a citizen to crusade for the firing of an officer of the state that clearly deserved it?


Is it out of the ordinary or wrong for the spouse so end up with some responsibilities?

Is it out of the question for a politician to enable their spouse to have a platform to be herd from?

Why then would it be wrong for todd to make this happen with the support of sarah when it would not have been wrong for her to do it?


Granted this would all hinge on the officers crimes, but if the allegations are true the no one overstepped their boundaries and neither of them acted inappropriately.

"Having authority and abusing that authority are different things. How many other Troopers did she fire while Gov?"


How many other had these kind of statements against them ?



"We would just appreciate it if she cooperated with the investigation."


This is not the time.



"You are just trying to play a card that doesn't exist."

BS. Now i don't begin to pretend the the right would not do the same, but i cannot deny that this is politically motivated. I would go a step further, if the letter was a d then she would probably be defended by her current attackers and vis versa.

Ok so we have established that sarah palin did not act incorrectly.

No we haven't.

There is an investigation going on at the moment, and they will tell us if she did anything incorrectly. You are just going to have to wait, ArmChair Investigator.

I think is is perfectly acceptable to let this investigation play out, I just saw that a judge ordered it to continue, and accept the results of the investigation. If she didn't do anything worng, then they should come back with that conclusion, but we are going to have to wait and see.

I am guessing that won't work for you. Sorry about that.

BS. Now i don't begin to pretend the the right would not do the same, but i cannot deny that this is politically motivated. I would go a step further, if the letter was a d then she would probably be defended by her current attackers and vis versa.

You are aware of the poitical make up of the officials that ordered and are conducting the investigation aren't you?

Your point is negated by the reality of the facts man.

Sorry about that.

""We would just appreciate it if she cooperated with the investigation."


"This is not the time."

Why not? Because she's in an election? What difference does that make?

When would the right time be?

"BS. Now i don't begin to pretend the the right would not do the same"

Would it be ok with you if they did? Would the right be getting the same criticizm?

No, Salamangator, you miss the point entirely.

If this man had not been Sarah Palin's ex-brother-in-law, NONE of these events would have been as they have been. NONE.

This is what stinks.

#57

Bingo!

Palin July 2008" "HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE!"

Palin October 2008: "DON'T HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE!"

So, an investigation she welcomed that was voted to proceed unanimously by a 12-0 vote (8 GOP 4 DEM) is now a partisan witch hunt?

BWA

So, an investigation she welcomed that was voted to proceed unanimously by a 12-0 vote (8 GOP 4 DEM) is now a partisan witch hunt?

That is what the ignorant folks are claiming.

Amazing huh?

Big Deal! You wusses out there would probably stand by and let that cop threaten your wife's family. Frankly, I'm proud as hell of a guy that not only stands up for his family but puts it in a sworn statement.

Obama wouldn't know anything about that... its called standing on your principles... he'd rather stand on the shoulders anyone with money and connections.

Is it not the governor's job to oversee the state officials?

Not when it involves a person her family has a grudge against. The right thing to do would've been for the Palins to make an initial complaint and then recuse themselves from all decisions involving Sarah's former brother-in-law.

The right thing to do would've been for the Palins to make an initial complaint and then recuse themselves from all decisions involving Sarah's former brother-in-law.

RCADE

The Palins did exactly that.

Wooten was investigated and suspended for a few days according to procedure.

The right thing to do would've been for the Palins to make an initial complaint and then recuse themselves from all decisions involving Sarah's former brother-in-law.

RCADE

The Palins did exactly that.

Wooten was investigated and suspended for a few days according to procedure.

Wooten still has his job.

The other guy--the police commissioner--Monegan (?) was let go by Sarah for insubordination and being an incompetent.

You keep telling yourself all those lies, MURPHY

What's more amazing is that you believe them all

Rogers, I guess you would have given this nutjob a big sloppy wet kiss on the ass for tasering your nephew, threatening to kill our father, and treating your sister like shit, all under the cover of the badge. And of course threatening the First Family of a state.

What a pathetic joke.

I didn't know you were such a stand up guy for cops that abuse the badge Rogers. I bet you would feel exactly the same if this lowlife was married to one of the Hussein brood.

Riggghhhhhhhttttt.....

I guess you would have given this nutjob a big sloppy wet kiss on the ass for tasering your nephew

After the first sentence being a convoluted lie, anything coming from your trap is not worth reading.

Lyin just turns the reader away, not worth the effort in continuing reading from such posters.

No surprise the Republicans all think acting above the law is honorable. SSDD.

"The other guy... was let go by Sarah for ... being an incompetent."

Let's have a quick poll here: Does ANYone here think Sarah Palin has the competence to judge someone else to be incompetent? herm

"What a pathetic joke."

Zitface strikes (himself) again.

No surprise the Republicans all think acting above the law is honorable. SSDD.

#69 | Posted by YAV
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We don't. We think it's despicable that an officer of the law, who believes he is above it, still is on the force.
Try to keep up.

"We think it's despicable that an officer of the law, who believes he is above it, still is on the force."

How does that justify using the power of the governor's office for payback?

Again, I'm not saying the brother-in-law was right. But none of that justifies using the power of the government to retaliate.

Alaskan Supreme Court won't block Troopergate report::

www.adn.com

Well, you've just given a pardon to every single person ever convicted of a crime.

Hello. Danforth. Planet Earth on line two. If you were the governor of a state, and you learned that a police officer had tasered a child, been repeatedly disciplined on the job, threatened his spouse and his father in law with extreme violence, and been found drunk in his squad car, what would you do about it? And assume further that the officer's supervisor, who is his good friend, decided that he would be let off with a verbal warning or two?

What a world you live in. Mayors, governors, presidents--nobody can do anything. Everyone's got a job for life, no matter how big a scumbag he is. Because it would be wrong to use the power of the government to retaliate. Godalmighty.

Maybe Barack can issue a pardon to this douchebag, move him to Chicago, then he can do whatever the hell he wants.

"what would you do about it?"

The processes are in place for a reason. Palin, seemingly, abused it.

"And assume further that the officer's supervisor, who is his good friend, decided that he would be let off with a verbal warning or two?"

Well that would be stupid, wouldn't it? He was investigated and suspended for five days, iirc. It seems that wasn't good enough. It also seems you're assigning a bogus position to me: that I believe the brother-in-law wasn't wrong. He clearly was. But that error doesn't justify Palin's error.

"Well, you've just given a pardon to every single person ever convicted of a crime."

Bullshit. I meant the personal power of the governor's office, and you know it.

I meant the personal power of the governor's office, and you know it.

#76 | Posted by Danforth
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Actually I didn't know that. Todd Palin was working on getting this douchebag fired before Sarah was elected governor.

Another thing I don't know--but suspect--is that if this were going on with Kathleen Sebelius or Nancy Pelosi, you wouldn't really give a damn. I wonder how you felt when Hillary fired the White House Travel Office, for example? Even that's apples to oranges, considering they weren't accused of serious crimes, just got in the way of rewarding some of her cronies.

Ah well. Maybe the investigation will work out to your satisfaction, and this POS cop will keep his job, and enforce his own peculiar brand of justice on the good citizens of Alaska for years to come. Assuming he can stay sober long enough.

"Maybe the investigation will work out to your satisfaction, and this POS cop will keep his job, and enforce his own peculiar brand of justice on the good citizens of Alaska for years to come. Assuming he can stay sober long enough."

Are you slow on the uptake? I've stated multiple times he was wrong. The POS should be fired. But you can't stand for the process while undermining the process. No matter how much of an idiot the brother-in-law is---AND HE IS---it still doesn't make Palin right.

Whether this trooper keeps his job or not is not the issue here. The firing of the state's top law official by the governor is the issue. If Gov. Palin fired him because he wouldn't fire her brother-in-law, that's a clear abuse of power. If she and her husband Todd pressured officials to fire her brother-in-law, or messed with his workman's comp claim, or illegally accessed his personnel files, those are abuses of power.

During the Clinton years, Republicans claimed numerous times that Bill and Hillary Clinton engaged in abuses of power against their personal enemies. Remember Travelgate?

You can't have it both ways. Public officials should not be allowed to use the power of their office to punish their personal enemies.

"Even if it was 100 percent true and entirely the guy's fault..."

RCADE has really gone off the deep end.
How can he writes this commentary as if there were any QUESTION that this cop Tasered his 10 year old stepson!
Wake up and smell the manure you are spewing out to cover up a bad cop.
The man SAID he Tasered his stepson. I saw him admit it in an interview on television last month.

So unless SNL has someone mimicking Wooten as well as Palin, what more do you need in order to write a commentary that has so much wiggle room to allow anyone to believe he might NOT have done it?

As to all of those who say that Todd Palin doesn't have the right to bring his complaints to state officials, where in the Alaska Constitution does it say that the Governor's family gives up the rights that EVERY other Alaskan has, to appeal to state officials when they think something wrong has been done?
I've done it any number of times myself. Why does Todd have any less right to appeal than I do?

Your assuming that the official in question "feels" that this is subliminal pressure from the Governor herself doesn't make it so. Whenever anyone with power makes an appeal, there is an impression that they are using "clout" to get their way. Maybe they are and maybe they are just exercising their rights as a citizen and the official is the one having this mistaken impression.

While RCADE says that the issue of the Tasering of the child didn't come up for a year, the termination of this Official didn't bring any cries from him that he was being fired for not firing the State trooper until several months later. If he believed it when he was fired, he had the right to appeal immediately. Why didn't he?

Did you know that Todd Palin was ORDERED to discuss Trooper Mike Wooten with Monegan by the head of the Governor's security detail? How about the fact that schedules disprove Monegan's claim that he only met with Palin four times in seventeen months? It turns out that they had over two-dozen meetings during that time, including several visits by Monegan to the Governor's home and joint trips to remote parts of Alaska.

So it seems that Monegan has a credibility problem since he obviously lied a lot about how many times he met with Palin.

The fact of the matter is that the position Monegan held is essentially a member of the Governor of Alaska's cabinet. It's an appointed position, and he serves at the pleasure of the Governor. If the commissioner isn't doing what the governor wants, he's gone. The Governor doesn't need a reason.

It would take a mind reader to determine if Sarah fired this guy for personal or state reasons.
This investigation is a waste of time and money since every state official knows when they take the job that they can be fired at any time.

"Did you know that Todd Palin was ORDERED to discuss Trooper Mike Wooten with Monegan by the head of the Governor's security detail?"

Please tell me Todd Palin's position within the chain-of-command in the government of the State of Alaska.

"First Dude" doesn't count.

"Abuse of power! LOL!!! You're an idiot Sully."

Then why is the there an investigation?

Obviously, I'm right and you're just an hackish douchebag.

"The firing of the state's top law official by the governor is the issue."

The guy was put into a situation where he had to decide whether to fire someone based mostly on hearsay coming from people with a grudge and he chose not to do so. Unfortunately, in doing so he also had to choose not to put on the kneepads for Palin's hubby. So he was fired.

No wonder these snivelling shits have no problem with it. They would've got down on all fours for Toddy and not even dared to ask for a reacharound.

I wonder how you felt when Hillary fired the White House Travel Office, for example? Even that's apples to oranges, considering they weren't accused of serious crimes, just got in the way of rewarding some of her cronies.

#77 | Posted by rightisright

...and by the same token, why are you then defending Palin?

the bottom line

the governor of alaska has been cleared of these charges....

I thought family was off limits when it comes to democrats........

the governor of alaska has been cleared of these charges....

Where did you see that?

Mccain/Palin ticket did their own investigation and have cleared Palin of any wrong doing. Pretty neat.

will be out later today.........

hey its WHO you know.....dont you know that?????

Mccain/Palin ticket did their own investigation and have cleared Palin of any wrong doing. Pretty neat.

I was waiting for that Idiot BL2 to come back with that. You might have blown my expose.

oops sorry. i had heard this on the way to work this morning and was not shocked to hear that she didn't do anything wrong.
what i don't get is do they really think people are that stupid.
mccain spokesman: move along folks our internal investigation has found gov palin did nothing wrong.
i mean really! sorry, watched weekend update last night.

I was waiting for that Idiot BL2 to come back with that. You might have blown my expose.


#89 | Posted by Manypaths at 2008


bite me bitch

read what ck just wrote

or maybe watch the news for a change

i think the point was he wanted you, bl2, to say that. it appears he knew that and was going to blast you for supporting a republican investigation into a republican gov that found no wrongdoing. get it?
maybe you are an idiot. ;)

You heard that Sara had cleared herself. Yeah I heard that too.

However, at 9:00 am Anchorage time, the Alaska lawmakers started reviewing the report and will vote shortly to release it to the public.

I'll let you guys know when it is released and what it says.

These people are telling us that he(who has no offical business in running the state's business)met with public officals from Alaska several times to discuss and pressure them to fire a state employee without his wife(the governer)knowing about it.
The kicker
several of those meetings happened according to this SOB in her office!
I was not there
I did not know anything about it
If I did ,prove it
If you prove ,go fuck yourself
Sound familiar for a VP

Palin's investigations of Palin has found that Palin did nothing wrong.
How stupid do they think we are!

Palin's investigations of Palin has found that Palin did nothing wrong.
How stupid do they think we are!

Well, if they are reading BL2's posts, then they just might be onto something......

sounds like it's gonna be a few more hours before the release. they'll make it public after the news cycle in my opinion.

Troopergate hearing (Updates through the day)
Posted by Alaska_Politics

Posted: October 10, 2008 - 9:15 am

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Kyle Hopkins is at the Legislative Council meeting with his iPhone. Come back for updates. We're posting updated stories on the homepage.

12 noon: Sen. Kim Elton, D-Juneau and the Legislative Council chairman, stepped out for a bathroom break and was asked how it was going inside. "I'm not going to characterize it," he said. "I'm tempted to, but I won't." None of the others coming and going from the room have had anything to say.

Then Jeff Turner, an aide to the Senate majority, came out and said it would be at least another hour until any official word emerges from within.

11:50 a.m.: It may be a while. Green just stepped outside again and reports they're now on page 20 of the 200-plus page document. "Go home," she advised.

Sen. Kim Elton, D-Juneau, is responding angrily to the Palin administration for breaking a deal to cooperate with the Legislature's abuse of power investigation.

The guy who is TEMPTED to characterize the meeting.

2:15 p.m.: Rep. Nancy Dahlstrom just told us to expect to wait another hour before we hear anything.

The report is out. Republicans - gird your loins - or at least put on your Depends.

The just released report finds:

"She unlawfully abused her authority in firing the Alaska Public Safety Commissioner."

The report does say that the decision to fire Monegan was not solely based on Monegan's refusal to fire Wooten.

She looked the other way while "first stud" Todd Palin made it his personal vendetta to get this trooper fired. You had to know these two shared stories at bedtime about all this so Sarah Palin was a big liar and used her husband to do this. What a behind the sences bitch. She's another George W Bush only worse.

The taser incident happened in the presence of Sarah's sister. She didn't complain about it until a year later when they were in the throes of a heated divorce, which makes the allegation suspect. People say crazy shit in a divorce.

#20 | Posted by rcade at 2008-10-09 04:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Shame on you, Rogers. That attitude is why so many women don't report spousal and child abuse at all.

Of course they won't report it _BEFORE_ they decided to divorce the jerk. They're still excusing the behavior, convinced that it will all turn out allright. Then if they report it _during_ the divorce, people come out of the woodwork and accuse them of making crap up just to "get more money", and then somehow the victim gets treated like a criminal. It's downright ugly what these women have to endure in court if they DARE to bring up abuse.

It becomes easier for many women to just divorce the guy, walk away, and let his actions go unpunished so he can do it again and again and again. The way the law stands now... no fault divorces.. there's no benefit to be had to bringing it up, and a LOT of scorn to be had for doing it. Statements like yours just make the problem worse, on every level. People who do stuff like this should be tried to the full extent of the law.

For what it counts, I think she should face a negligence charge, but tasing a kid? He should have had his badge stripped from him the second the douchebag admitted to it. "Well he asked me to do it and his mom let me!" isn't an excuse. His mother could be given a lesser sentence for being an idiot about what a taser _does_.. and by all indications she is.. A police officer should know better then to tase a _child_. Especially a cop who was just taught to be a taser instructor. I hear some of the 13 year olds that get knocked up by some basement-dwelling 40 year old "asked them to do it" also. Remeber: this is NOT EVEN ALLEGED. Wooten openly admitted that he _tased a child_.

Get you blinders off, Rogers. An atrocity is an atrocity, regardless of the party affiliation of the victim's mother. Life is shades of grey, not black and white. Sometimes you look the other way at an abuse of power if it's the right thing that was done. It's _Liberals_ who are supposed to understand that. And the one thing you must _never_ do is try to tell a woman that because she didn't report the abuse before, it should not be acted upon.

...and don't even get me started on what effect that kind of attitude has on rape victims. I'm hardly a big giant huge defender of women's rights, but I sort of expect a semi-popular Liberal Commentator to be on the right side of this issue regardless of the party affiliation of the victim.

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