Why do Democrats hate working people?

.....each of us owes 2,500 for the bailout......

......nice to see its going to a worthy cause......

I watched a small portion of a meeting with Congress and an AIG exec on C-SPAN an hour ago.

Did you know AIG blew thru the $85 billion we gave them in 3 weeks????

When a Congresswoman asked the AIG exec what AIG did to blast thru $85 billion in only three weeks he could (or would not) answer her.

Bush STOLE $800 trillion from the taxpayers and gave it to his sleezy corporate pals never to be accounted for again.

Bush's legacy -- a ruined and broken America.

Fire them, no one in charge who gets a bailout or goes bankrupt should keep their job. No bonuses, no stock options no perks. Return the money or face jail should be the rule.

Bush STOLE $800 trillion from the taxpayers and gave it to his sleezy corporate pals never to be accounted for again.
#3 | Posted by CalifChris

Califchris, you left out part of your post. It should read:

"Bush, Obama, McCain, Pelosi, Reid, and all the other Congressmen that created and voted on the bill STOLE $800 trillion from the taxpayers and gave it to their sleezy corporate pals never to be accounted for again."

While Bush's role in the "bailout" angers me to no end, he was not the only one that passed the bill. We have 300-some odd Congressmen to thank for that as well.

If they hadn't gotten the bail-out money, they would have had to stay at a holiday inn in the peoples republic of orange county.

"$800 trillion"

#3 | Posted by CalifChris

Isn't that like the net worth of the entire planet?

The Bushter ain't as stoopyd as he looks, wot?

can we all agree that the execs at AIG are assholes devoid of anything redeeming who deserve a painful painful retribution?

IF YOU ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL YOU ARE TOO BIG TO EXIST!

Break Up AIG!!!

I agree, TRUTHHURTS.

Simple. Anyone in Congress who voted YES on the bailout gets a NO in November.

Not sure what to do with the two POTUS stooges who both supported it, but I guess I'll hold my nose and vote for the old white guy.

It would be a real shame if someone killed these guys.

Just saying....

AIG should pay off the 85 billion loan, the problem with this whole ordeal is, all the elected officials is going to do is scold these people responsible for these abuses which have cost billions of dollars of taxpayer's money.

I believe there should be accountability, and punishment for those who are guilty of loosing all that money. This should never happen again, if it does, it will be worse than this situation.

can we all agree that the execs at AIG are assholes devoid of anything redeeming who deserve a painful painful retribution?

#8 | Posted by truthhurts

Yes, and this topic should come up in tonight's debate. along with the Feds buying up short term debt.

""..and many other Republicans voted for the bailout.""

And many Democrats too, Danni.

"And many Democrats too, Danni."

And...you don't see me here whining about it. Sure there are abuses such as this at AIG, but acting as if the crisis was an emergency was the only responsible way to act considering the consequences if a melt down did actually occur. It is easy to sit here now and say throw all those who voted for the bailout out of office but had things turned for the worse, which they still might, the same folks who are so pompous here now would have been the loudest whiners about why the Congress failed to act. Americans let these fools destroy the economy, there was no secret about how they were doing it. Pure partisan stubbornness allowed this all to happen and now Americans need to try and figure out a way to fix the problems or else we may face a real depression. Don't know about y'all but I am willing to bail out even those who don't deserve it if it will help prevent a catastrophic depression.

BARTIMUS

Califchris, you left out part of your post. It should read:

"Bush, Obama, McCain, Pelosi, Reid, and all the other Congressmen that created and voted on the bill STOLE $800 trillion from the taxpayers and gave it to their sleezy corporate pals never to be accounted for again."

While Bush's role in the "bailout" angers me to no end, he was not the only one that passed the bill. We have 300-some odd Congressmen .

Thank you for finishing my post for me. lol

I did indeed leave out that very important insert you gave me --

"...Obama, McCain, Pelosi, Reid, and all the other Congressmen that created and voted on the..." bill.

I agree with you 100%. They are all to blame and all deserve to be named. This was a bipartisan theft of $800 trillion!

Why do Democrats hate working people?

#1 | Posted by vernon

Vernon-Bush bailed out AIG all by his lonesome. That predates the 700 billion buttfuck.

I wish, just once, the Right would wander down the paths of reality.

Sure there are abuses such as this at AIG, but acting as if the crisis was an emergency was the only responsible way to act considering the consequences if a melt down did actually occur. It is easy to sit here now and say throw all those who voted for the bailout out of office but had things turned for the worse, which they still might, the same folks who are so pompous here now would have been the loudest whiners about why the Congress failed to act. Americans let these fools destroy the economy, there was no secret about how they were doing it. Pure partisan stubbornness allowed this all to happen and now Americans need to try and figure out a way to fix the problems or else we may face a real depression. Don't know about y'all but I am willing to bail out even those who don't deserve it if it will help prevent a catastrophic depression. Posted by danni

I agree with all you say, Danni.

I think the only difference is I'm in the group of folks (Dem and Repub alike) who really didn't think we were at the brink of collapse after all, but more just trying to save the jobs of people whose jobs did not deserve saving. But nobody knows for sure so you may be right. or i may be, or maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. The absence of a collapse after the bailout will show either a) the bailout worked or b) nothing, since it may not have happened anyway.

It is the same conundrum when one argues the Patriot Act (and this is not an aim to derail the thread; just as an analogy to the bailout): The absence of a terrorist attack under the Patriot Act means either a) it worked by preventing terrorist attacks before they had a chance to coalesce or b) it was abusive overkill because there were never any follow-on attacks planned and we were not to be attacked again anyway.

The definitive evidence on both issues will come out in no time soon.

It puts the responsible members of Congress at a disadvantage which they fully recognized when they voted for the bailout. It may turn out that this was an unnecessary bailout, it may turn out that this bailout doesn't prevent an economic melt down, or it may turn out that the bailout is a significant factor in preventing a melt down.
The point is...none of you have any way of knowing and making idiotic accusations against Congress for voting on the side of caution to protect the American people is a real cheap shot.

"The definitive evidence on both issues will come out in no time soon."

It's the times we live in. Nothing is simple in 2008. We will never return to those simpler days of old and actually most of us would never want to.

wis

did you see this

Town Hall Event Rules
The Obama-McCain event tonight consists of two parallel press conferences that happen to be in the same room. The detailed rules hammered out by the two campaigns state that the questions were to have been submitted in advance by the audience members and over the Internet. The questioner may not change the question and the microphone will be cut off after the question. Neither the questioner nor the moderator, Tom Brokaw of NBC, may ask followup questions. The candidates may not question each other. There will be no debate at all. Who does this format favor? Probably neither candidate. Usually the questions the general public asks aren't very hard, are largely predictable in advance, and have already been asked 100 times ("how will you fix the economy?"). The candidates have stock answers they will reel off. Given the current state of polling, McCain needs to shake things up and Obama needs to keep the status quo. An event that doesn't rock the boat much thus de facto works for Obama. Nevertheless, once in a while something unexpected happens at one of these events. In 1992, someone asked the candidates how the national debt affected them personally. George H.W. Bush was flustered by the question (by which the questioner probably meant the budget deficit) and it threw him off stride somewhat.

From: AIG
To: Taxpayers

SUCKERS!

wis

did you see this

Posted by truthhurts

Great. The last 5 days have been the worse in recent memory and this is what we get from the 2 candidates? I guess I'll logon to my retirement account, get drunk, beat the wife and kids and go to bed.

When Osama Bin Laden was identified as the architect of 9/11, I told myself I could support a Republican president -- regardless of my yellow-dog Democrat leanings -- if that person brought that monster to justice. Preferably in the smallest parts that could be identified with DNA. Bush, of course, couldn't do it. He couldn't catch Bin Laden if he was president for a million years.

Now, I'm beginning to think I could support any politician willing to prosecute the greedy SOBs who destroyed the economy. How in the world could AIG's top management be allowed to spend half a million bucks on a retreat after the U.S. bailed them out? It's criminal.

god forbid we actually challenge our candidates.

How in the world could AIG's top management be allowed to spend half a million bucks on a retreat after the U.S. bailed them out?
#25 | Posted by rcade

nonrefundable plane tickets and hotel rooms? :^)

Truth: " So Senator, are you going to be the bestest leader we ever had, or just the second bestest?"

Think there's a new "House" on tonight.

This is the typical "culture of zero responsibility" that permeates Washington today. No one is to blame ever for anything. Never take responsibility. Never stand up and admit fault. Just go right on ahead living it up - on the taxpayer dollars. This is just the most recent, blatant example. How much money do you think the repulsicans have looted from the treasury over the past 8 years? We'll never know the extent of the theft but we are going to pay. Our children are going to pay and our grandchildren are going to pay for the rampant greed and corruption of the past 8 years. And no one will ever be held to account. And Grampy Poopy Pants wants to extent this for another 4 years? You have GOT to be kidding me! Not even the repulsicans could be THAT stupid! Could they? Never mind....

" Our children are going to pay and our grandchildren are going to pay"

Look at the ages of those ancient MFs.

WE are the children. Our kids are the grandchildren. And the day of reckoning may already be upon us.

This has been planned for years, and it finally happened. God Bless America

Like I said - if you don't like this, vote against every single moron in your state who voted in favor of the bailout. This is their fault.

exactly, i compare what our "leaders:" go through to what the British PM goes through, he is questioned, strongly, he needs to demonstrate his knowledge of policies.

i would think what ever side you are on you would demand both candidated be harshly vetted by a very knowledgeable media.

not to pick out one candidate, but Palin, if elected could become president with the following moments of accountability-1 interview with charlie Gibson, 1 interview with Katie Couric, one debate and a number of interviews with friendly press.

I dont have a problem with her interviewing with a hannity or a limbaugh but she absolutely must interview with the otherside, same with obama, etc.

the basic problem comes down to the fact that media is corporate owned, the "media" are celebrities.

ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY

Joe, do you know or seen a story on how many voted no that are currently up for re-election? I say they're all fucking crooks.

Hey, don't we own 80% of AIG or something like that? If so, can't we decide who is on the board and who is CEO and how much they are paid?

These people that take our money should be paid on the same scale and with the same benefits as the people who work in the Pentagon or in the Department of Housing, etc.

If so, can't we decide who is on the board and who is CEO and how much they are paid?

I vote for me and $1TRILLION DOLLARS!

Wisgod, I haven't seen a story like that but I'm just going to print the list off and make sure none of them get my vote come November.

it's time to start stocking ammo with no one left
in washington to represent americans

The only thing sader than this is the fact that no one will do anything about it.........

I listened to Texas Senator Cornyn today on radio. He said 30% of the current economic debacle was caused by poor people otaining bad loans. My, didn't he want someone put into prison for that.

The other 60% was presumbaly caused by Wall Street and persons he would say belong to his class, the ones we are forbidden to envy.

He never said a word about them or about that. Not. One. Word.

can we all agree that the execs at AIG are assholes devoid of anything redeeming who deserve a painful painful retribution?

#8 | Posted by truthhurts

I doubt it. Conservatives believe that these executives have earned every penny of their enormous salaries and perks.

Vernon is so dumb he can't even remember last week when John McCain and many other Republicans voted for the bailout.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2008-10-07 03:23 PM | Reply
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Vernon-Bush bailed out AIG all by his lonesome. That predates the 700 billion buttfuck.

#18 | Posted by northguy3 at 2008-10-07 03:50 PM | Reply
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HAR~! HAR~!

You clowns are so easy. You take the bait every time.

The people who work at the hotel ARE working people. They depend on junkets by big business. That's how then earn money to pay the rent, feed their children and pay taxes to support failing public schools.

So I say again, .......

Why does the Left hate working people?

We will never return to those simpler days of old ....

#21 | Posted by danni at 2008-10-07 03:54 PM | Reply

Danni is deeply nostalgic for a time when she never actually lived

Yah know, sometimes I wish for just a moment of Stalin--wall,rifles, problem solved comrade.

was there a "last request" attached to the bill?

why does the Left hate the Constitution? Why does the Left think it's just a godam piece of paper?

Why does the left hate Vern? Let me count the ways.

can we all agree that the execs at AIG are assholes devoid of anything redeeming who deserve a painful painful retribution?

I can

He said 30% of the current economic debacle was caused by poor people otaining bad loans.

I have no cause to doubt that but I would have to add that a certain % can be attached to middle class people obtaining bad loans.

Vern...the right must hate the constitution....

You guys do not believe that all men (women included) are created equal....

You guys do not believe in the American dream (only the status quo and nothing beyond)

"The people who work at the hotel ARE working people. They depend on junkets by big business. That's how then earn money to pay the rent, feed their children and pay taxes to support failing public schools.

So I say again, .......

Why does the Left hate working people?"

It amazes me that anyone would post this and not know that it makes him look like a total retard.

That was just a steaming pile of shit logic.

What is really sad is that Repubs would have a fucking seizure if the blame was placed on a middle class individual....

However, they continue to take part in class warfare

Sully.....

Are you defending the AIG reps who took this trip after the bailout was set?

"Sully.....

Are you defending the AIG reps who took this trip after the bailout was set?"

No, I think Vernon was trying to do so using the twisted logic that "This trip helped keep hotel workers employed so to criticize it is to hate the working class....."

I was just saying that he's an imbecile if he thinks anyone would read that shit and think it makes a damn bit of sense.

Sully...

Then you are exactly right....Vern is a moron

executives of the giant AIG insurance company spent $440,000 for a week-long retreat at a $1,000-a-night luxury resort and spa

Pikers. What did Paul Bremer steal from Iraq? $9 Billion.

so, how long before the proletariat begins running through the streets with dripping knives?

You clowns are so easy. You take the bait every time.

So I say again, .......

#41 | Posted by vernon at 2008-10-07 09:26 PM

so I sez ta da guy...