Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, October 07, 2008

You'll want to double-check the logo at the bottom left corner (of the video) during this report. It really is CNN and Anderson Cooper fact-checking Barack Obama's claims to have barely known William Ayers and calling it dishonest.

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Why do Obama and his people continually lie about his relationship with terrorists like Ayers? Why can't he just "man up" like he did with his "spiritual advisor" Wright, and admit he made another poor judgment? Oh that's right - that's what he wants us to judge him on, and not his total lack of experience.

CNN says Obama is a damn liar. Here with the uninformed viewpoint are Doc Sarvis and Northguy3..............

ta-ta-ta-ta-taqiyya pet!

obama and family sat in a church that spewed lies about our government for twenty years - i believe he may be attention deficit.

www.youtube.com

Its time for CNN to review this interesting clip of Obama's basic agenda - redistibution of wealth for the "greater good" of all.

Anderson Cooper must be in the top 2% of income earners and that's the reason for this attack. -Truthspurts

My god AnAmerican... That video is appalling.

I can't believe my eyes and ears. Congratulations, Anderson Cooper, for having the (undoubtedly well-powdered) balls to actually do your fucking job as a journalist. I hope your self-respect doesn't cost you your job.

dickipedia, the top source for info on this candidate.

my favorite entry:

Personal Life

Barack Obama is married to Michelle Obama (nee Robinson), with whom he has five children: Sondra, Denise, Theo, Vanessa and Rudy.

pinche - fox'll snap him up.

LOL.

Hussein Huxtable.

Are people still reading pinche these days?? He hasn't won a debate in over 2 years.

see page 82. seems even if bho didn't know ayers - ayers knew him well enough to tell the world he was a neighbor.

Are people still reading pinche these days??

Posted by rastaninja

It appears you do, waterhead.

hotair.com

Why yes it is.

It seems to me that the ultimate point is Obama used a well known community activist and the connections gained through him to catapult himself up the political ladder. Shocking. Truly, you guys are on to something big here.

I'm sure you can dig into the past of any politician and find questionable contacts and associations. Y'all think McCain hasn't rolled in the dirt to get where he is now?

JPW,

One needs to look no further than Charles Keating.

McCain is as dirty as dirt can be and no amount of self proclaimed Maverickness can change that.

they're all dirty!

we're screwed.

JPW,

One needs to look no further than Charles Keating.

McCain is as dirty as dirt can be and no amount of self proclaimed Maverickness can change that.

#16 | Posted by 726 at 2008-10-07 12:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

And yet, all I hear from the Left is the same shit I hear from the Right. "Your guy did it too, so it's okay that my guy did it!"

"Your guy did it too, so it's okay that my guy did it!"

I don't think that's what anyone is saying. It's just ridiculous for ANY politician to act like he's squeaky clean and call another's contacts and associations into question. Finding skeletons in a politician's closet isn't news and certainly shouldn't be a primary front of attack in an election.

"Finding skeletons in a politician's closet isn't news and certainly shouldn't be a primary front of attack in an election."

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2008-10-07 12:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

... wow. Right after claiming nobody says it.. you then proceeded to DO SO. Associations with people like Wright, Ayers, and yes even Keating throw a hideously large shadow on the character of a man.
And character _should_ be VERY important.

These things are not "skeletons". These are not things like "Got arrested for public drunkenness once when they were 22." Things like THAT are skeletons. Long associations with deplorable people are big, giant, huge deals.

"One question . . . had to do with whether my financial support in any way influenced several political figures to take up my cause. I want to say in the most forceful way I can: I certainly hope so."
Charles Keating
McCain Mentor

"Long associations with deplorable people are big, giant, huge deals."

Yet some people will still vote Republican.

Yet some people will still vote Republican.

#22 | Posted by Danforth

Only the smart ones :).

"Only the smart ones"

Says the guy who still believes Obama is a muslim.

McCain's radical friends

McCain's Friends on the Fringe

HITLER AD FINANCIER JOHN RAKOLTA


WATERGATE CONSPIRATOR G. GORDON LIDDY


RADICAL REVEREND JOHN HAGEE


RACIST AD CREATOR TERRY NELSON


MLK HOLIDAY OPPONENT RICHARD QUINN


HATE GROUP DEFENDER GEORGE WALLACE, JR.

Terrorist Oliver North

Religious weirdo Sarah Palin

Lobbyist for dictators Charlie Black


www.ncdp.org

" McCain has repeated the talk radio assumption that Obama's reluctance to end his "relationship" with Ayers and denounce the "terrorist" is indicative of what kind of leader he might be. Writes the Chicago Tribune's Steve Chapman, "What McCain didn't mention is that he has his own Bill Ayers in the form of G. Gordon Liddy. How close are McCain and Liddy?

At least as close as Obama and Ayers appear to be."

Not only did Liddy spend four years in a federal prison for his involvement in the Watergate scandal, but as Chapman notes, he proposed kidnapping anti-war activists during the 1972 Republican National Convention and even planned the murder of an unfriendly newspaper columnist.

In 1994, Liddy gave this advice to listeners after the tragedy in Waco, Texas: "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests ... Kill the sons of bitches." Liddy, like Ayers, was openly promoting armed resistance against the U.S. government. Still, McCain calls Liddy an "old friend."

John McCain's neo-Nazi friend...

www.youtube.com

"Associations with people like Wright, Ayers, and yes even Keating throw a hideously large shadow on the character of a man.
And character _should_ be VERY important."

I guess I'm not being very clear. I'm not excusing these associations because everyone has them. I'm saying when both parties have them, what's the point of arguing them? Unfortunately, we're stuck with voting for one of these two candidates (for all intents and purposes) and arguing over their dirty laundry is a waste of time in my book. Let's just agree that they both have dirty laundry and focus on what they PLAN to do, not what they've done.

I guess I'm not being very clear. I'm not excusing these associations because everyone has them. I'm saying when both parties have them, what's the point of arguing them? Unfortunately, we're stuck with voting for one of these two candidates (for all intents and purposes) and arguing over their dirty laundry is a waste of time in my book. Let's just agree that they both have dirty laundry and focus on what they PLAN to do, not what they've done.

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2008-10-07 03:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Umm. This is twice now someone in this thread has done this:

"I'm not excusing these associations because everyone has them."

"Unfortunately, we're stuck with voting for one of these two candidates (for all intents and purposes) and arguing over their dirty laundry is a waste of time in my book."

Contradictory statements. You ARE excusing them, and the excuse offered is that you feel that we have no choice but to vote for them.

When are they going to look into the Rezko dealings? Is this another racist subject? Obama admits he was a "bonehead" dealing with Rezko. Yet he doesn't say anything about the thousands of dollars Rezko and his wife gave Obama. He also doesn't mention the other part of the lot that was sold to Michael Sreenan. Who just happens to be one of Obamas biggest donors since Obama ran for Congress.

www.bloomberg.com

The more the someone looks into this the more it stinks. Obama hadn't made enough money to make million dollar offers on houses. He didn't start receiving revenue from his book before his wife was house shopping. God only knows why the press won't look into this transaction. Is it a coincidence Sreenan also worked for Rezmar? Owned by none other than Tony Rezko??

SREENAN, MICHAEL
CHICAGO, IL 60614
REZMAR INC OBAMA, BARACK (D)
Senate - IL
OBAMA FOR ILLINOIS INC $2,000
primary 06/30/03
SREENAN, MICHAEL
CHICAGO , IL 60614
REZMAR INC OBAMA, BARACK (D)
Senate - IL
OBAMA FOR ILLINOIS INC $-500
general 03/31/03
SREENAN, MICHAEL
CHICAGO , IL 60614
REZMAR INC OBAMA, BARACK (D)
Senate - IL
OBAMA FOR ILLINOIS INC $500
primary 03/31/03
SREENAN, MICHAEL
CHICAGO, IL 60614
REZMAR INC OBAMA, BARACK (D)
Senate - IL
OBAMA FOR ILLINOIS INC $500
general 12/31/02
SREENAN, MICHAEL
CHICAGO, IL 60614
REZMAR INC OBAMA, BARACK (D)
Senate - IL
OBAMA FOR ILLINOIS INC $1,000
primary 12/31/02

I think Obama's relationship with Ayer's is entirely meaningless. That is, unless you want to argue that Barrack is secretly a terrorist or a communist, which you Daffy Ducks have been asserting one way or another for a solid year.

Bullshit article planted by Tucker Bounds of the McCain campaign.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2008-10-07 09:00 PM

I think Obama's relationship with Ayer's is entirely meaningless.

This is Zed the Eraser seeking to disregard significant information.

Association with and sponsorship of his political career by a man impelled to extreme actions by his ideology is "meaningless?" Why would Ayers be so interested in advancing Obama's career if they were not ideologically aligned?

That is, unless you want to argue that Barrack is secretly a terrorist or a communist, which you Daffy Ducks have been asserting one way or another for a solid year.

Obama does not need to adopt the labels or even the tactics of Ayers to demonstrate that their goals are shared.

As von Clausewitz observed, "War is the continuation of politics by other means." The strategic goals of Ayers and Obama are the same. Obama has just adopted tactics more amenable to accomplishing those goals in the existing environment.

Remember that Obama has been indoctrinated from early childhood with radical doctrine. His paternal grandfather was a friend and associate of Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party apparatchik www.aim.org who acted as his surrogate father for several years.

Then Obama cast his lot for some 20 years with Rev. Jeremiah Wright, a man with a vitriolically expressed visceral hatred for America, whites, and Jews. These people were also aligned with another black hate group, the Nation of Islam and its leader, Louis Farrakhan.

Ayers also "hates" America and Americans, enough to be willing to kill them in pursuit of his ideology. Ayers is unrestrained in terms of the tactics that he would use to attain his goals. This attitude is that of such mass murderers, operating under ideological cover and developing a cult of the perssonality, as Stalin, Hitler, and Mao. Obama is driven by ideology and a narcissist developing a cult of the personality, a man suffering from borderline personality disorder as they did, and capable of justifying imposition of great harm.

Ayers elevation of ideology over humanity describes Obama's positions, and Obama has the characteristics necessary to remove any restraint from his actions. In a chaotic socio-economic milieu, Obama would be invested with power to do great harm and he is imbued with a willingness to do it, fostered by his personality, an underlying sense of grievance, and a source of abstract justification.



Johnson-
Does this radical, Obama, hate the US so much that he will double the debt, break our military, cripple our economy, alienate our allies, transform us from a formerly respected and sole superpower into a pariah that is openly mocked and not even feared - much less respected- all while claiming your stubborn and eternal allegiance?

Oh.... my bad, that has soooooo been done already.


Oh.... my bad, that has soooooo been done already.

That Horrid FF or Newsworthy Quandary...

JOHNSON

Sorry, bro---If your logic has any merit at all then Palin is as damned as Obama is for who it is she and her husband pal around with.

"A man suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder...."

You mean Obama self-mutilates and is often suicidal? I haven't picked that up yet.

Obama is driven by ideology and a narcissist developing a cult of the personality, a man suffering from borderline personality disorder as they did, and capable of justifying imposition of great harm.
- Johnson

George W Bush is driven by ideology and a narcissist developing a cult of the personality, a man suffering from borderline personality disorder as they did, and capable of justifying imposition of great harm.

- Johnson, if he was honest and clear-headed.


Which of the candidates belonged to a secessionist party who's founder hated America and was buried in Canada after blowing himself up making a bomb?

Sarah Palin

And the lunatics on the right want to talk about someone Obama served on an education commission with? You idiots are going to go down with a worse rep than Joe McCarthy when it's all said and done. Well deserved too.

"You guys are going to go down with even a worse rep than Joe McCarthy...."

Limbaugh was drawing what he thought were analogies between Barack and Bin Laden all day yesterday.

Frightened and desperate, and this time I don't think the name-calling will work.

Your statements are based on matters alleged as facts, which are not in evidence.

I want to disabuse you of the idea that I revere the Bush administration although I do recognize some of its accomplishments. One of my problems with Bush is his relative silence. He seems to have vanished into a cocoon rather than vigorously advancing positions that should be sustained. But back to the chase.

will double the debt

I consider Bush's fiscal policies reckless and objectionable.

In regard to Iraq, we should be replenishing our exchequer through collection of tribute from our conquered adversary, Iraq, rather than continuing to expend funds there. We should also have declared "dibs" on access to their oil resources as prices amenable to us regardless of other circumstances.

The problem is that Bush's failure to properly utilize our resources by conserving them, will appear to be small potatoes compared to the reckless excesses I anticipate will issue from an Obama administration. And the expenditures alone do not reflect the extend of intervention and cost as policies introduce unreflected costs.

break our military

I disagree. Our military has been greatly strnegthened as it was through our involvement in Vietnam as weapons and tactics were tested, and military prowess greatly enhanced.

cripple our economy

This was a joint venture, and I damn the conservatives for not reining in the financial manipulators, who exploited the policies of providing something for nothing for "the poor," and "minorities" as if there would not be consequences. These programs were initiated in accordance with leftist doctrine.

alienate our allies

Our "allies" aren't alienated. Our foreign policy should be conducted in furtherance of our own interests. Keep in mind that we have NATO forces participating in our venture in Afghanistan.

The concept that we can today separate antagonistic movements that are not nationalistic but theistic in nature and confine our efforts to respond to and destroy them to national boundaries is rather naive. We may ruffle some feathers, but as Chairman Mao observed, "You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs."

Where our interests and those of others conjoin, where there is a confluence of interests, we have support, where they diverge, we don't. Our goal is to achieve our ends, and use whatever means are necessary to secure whatever support may be obtainable, but securing support is not our goal. That's realpolitik.

transform us from a formerly respected and sole superpower into a pariah

This is nuanced in such a way that it is confuses the issues. What does "respect" mean to you? Deference to our requirements? What? And what does "pariah" mean? To whom is the U.S. "a pariah?" Why? If they don't like us or see our interests as parallel, and if we pursue our own interests and they don't like it, tough. What's your point on this?

As to placing respect and sole superpower in apposition, it's appropriate only if you are indicating that as "sole superpower" we obtain deference because of our overwhelming power. Otherwise as our relative power is reduced, deference is moderated. What do you expect?

Our dependence on fossil fuel controlled by foreigners as an essential energy source to power our economy, and the economic ascendancy of producers of this product, has reduced our relative strength. What does our administration have to do with that? There are extrinsic circumstances that are not malleable without recourse to war or threat of war to compel the submission of others to our dictates.

(cont.)

(cont.)

You cite error in the Bush administration. You should fear the depravity to be expected by an Obama ascendancy as he reflects a typical narcissistic borderline personality disorder combined with an ideological motivation and justification that typifies those authoritarian tyrants who serve as models for him, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao. With the current economic chaos, he also has more room to maneuver without being constricted to traditional boundaries. His selection might indeed be the precursor of a reign of terror.

By the way, did you notice that most of the world is in an economic meltdown mode, and not just the United States. Why would that be? Could there be other factors that are operative?

Again however, don't disregard the appetence of a personality such as Obama's for power. He has grievances. He is a narcissist. He has an ideological basis for advancing and justifying his position. Ayers recognizes Obama's extremism and lack of restraint (similar to Ayer's personality traits) in imposing his views. Obama has the makings of a violent dictator, whose actions if he assumes power will cause those which you find disquieting concerning Bush, to pale into insignificance. But you are prevented from assessing Ayers/Obama by your disinclination to detract from Obama's image, which for the nonce, holds you in thrall.

you also need to fact check all you can about frank rich and jim johnson who very well could be in an obama administration and who both are largely responsible for the finaincial shit we are now in and TOOK MILLLIONS OUT ANYWAY

Would you shake hands with a terrorist?
Would you shake hands with someone who shakes hands with a terrorist?

Good.

I saw McCain shake Obama's hand.

"I think Obama's relationship with Ayer's is entirely meaningless. That is, unless you want to argue that Barrack is secretly a terrorist or a communist, which you Daffy Ducks have been asserting one way or another for a solid year."

Posted by Zed

No one has argued that Obama is a terrorist or a communist. He is however a socialist based on his stated views and voting record.


I bet if you asked any Senator if the person next to them, being from a different party, is an enemy, the expected answers usually is, "Not at all. We have different points of view. I have problems with their views, not them personally."

I remember a joke about a football team that had to forfeit all their games. The players stood all around the field, but never together. Couldn't huddle or line-up. They were convicted felons and weren't allowed to be around other felons.

If associations make you guilty of another's past actions, the entire Congress would have a problem. Isn't there an email out there about how many members of Congress have crime records? How many have filed bankruptcy, didn't pay their taxes, have liens against them, etc.

McCain Trumpets Endorsement From Figure Of Foundation That Established Ayers Board

On Wednesday morning, John McCain's campaign released a list of 100 former ambassadors endorsing the GOP presidential nominee.

Second on the list, though her name is misspelled, is Leonore Annenberg, currently the president and chairman of the Annenberg Foundation and widow of ambassador and philanthropist Walter Annenberg. Ms. Annenberg was herself the "chief of protocol" at the State Department under President Reagan.

If the last name sounds familiar, it's because it also graces the name of the Chicago education board where Barack Obama and William Ayers sat in the room six times together.

www.huffingtonpost.com

-Sarge

"Limbaugh was drawing what he thought were analogies between Barack and Bin Laden all day yesterday."

Why were you listening to Limbaugh "all day?" Is this your way of convincing yourself the "other side" is stupid - listening to the biggest blowhard that anyone with a brain ignores?

Why do you give a damn what I do or why, Joe? Take your time.

I don't personally care about what you do - I just find it odd that any liberal would listen to Rush Limbaugh. If I were to inform myself about "the other side's" viewpoint, I wouldn't choose the most easily refuted person and listen to them "all day."

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