......does this mean we have to give Texas and California back to Mexico ?......

If we gave back Texas, just think of all the good news stories we would miss out on.

Hell, I don't think Mexico would want them back.

Oh, but lets focus the debate on a casual acquaintance that was a radical 40 years ago when Obama was 8. Pay no attention to the VP candidate whose husband is a secessionist. Nothing to see here, move along.

The oath requires her to swear on a BIBLE, no less,...

Actually it doesn't, require you to "swear on a BIBLE" that is. And something else, the Constitution does NOT even require the President (or Vice-President) to swear an OATH since in order to 'swear an OATH' you would have to, by definition, acknowledge the existence of God, and since the Constitution explicitly states that there will be NO religious test in order to hold any public office in the United States of America, the Constitution can NOT force anyone to swear an OATH nor use a BIBLE as part of the 'swearing-in' ceremony.

OCU

Friends don't let friends vote Republican

"The oath requires her to swear on a BIBLE, no less,..."

What oath is that?

The United States Constitution does not specify an oath of office for the vice president.

Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn't cut it at all. In fact, she increased funding and signed a bill that will triple per-pupil funding over three years for special needs students with high-cost requirements.

She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She's been registered as a Republican since May 1982.

Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a "courtesy" when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.

Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

We'll be looking into other charges in an e-mail by a woman named Anne Kilkenny for a future story. For more explanation of the bullet points above, please read the Analysis.

"The oath requires her to swear on a BIBLE, no less,..."

Another F in 6th grade civics.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I beg to differ Zatoich. Aren't all elected officials supposed to take an oath of office?? The Vice President is an ELECTED position for they receive the same number electoral votes as the President elect.

Larry

As for the president, from the Constitution, Article 2, section 1, verbatim ...

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

He can put his hand on the soon-to-be first lady's ass if he wants to.

Sorry, but your hang up is the word 'OATH'. The dictionary defines an 'Oath' as:

A solemn usually formal calling upon God or a god to witness to the truth of what one says or to witness that one sincerely intends to do what one says.

Therefore the Constitution of the United States can NOT require the President to take an OATH of Office since that would imply a 'religious test' which is explicitly prohibited, which of course kills the notion that somehow a BIBLE is a necessary prop in all this.

OCU

Friends don't let friends vote Republican

True, Zat-the Bible thing is a tradition started by George Washington.

He can put his hand on the soon-to-be first lady's ass if he wants to.

#8 | Posted by Zatoichi

They'd have to keep a close watch on McBush-he'd be liable to put his hand on Sarah's ass.
Or under Scalia's robe.....

After Palin's answer to Couric's question about the Supreme Court I'd really like to hear how Palin defines states rights versus federal authority.

Doesn't the Declaration of Independence allow a state, or any group of people, to secede? If a central government destoys life, liberty, and/or the pursuit of happiness, the DoI says go for it!

"...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends [those truths that are self-evident], it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." - Declaration of Independence

Note that I'm not arguing for secession or supporting the South's "right" to secede leading up to the Civil War, but am merely pointing out that to unconditionally rule out secession in all circumstances is foolish.

"The oath requires her to swear on a BIBLE, no less"

i would think that swearing to an oath, for a nonbeliever, would be on his or her moral fabric.
particularly when gentlemen were gentleman an so on... if that ever was the case.... or if there ever was a time when one's word meant something.

all the best.

"The oath requires her to swear on a BIBLE, no less"

There is no oath for vice president.

Palin is dumb and dangerous.

A phony one trick pony who needs to be sent back to Wasilla -- fast.

sure cut us loose

did you see what just a little SMALL interuption in the oil coming through texas did to parts of the us? just think about it not coming through AT ALL unless you paid US that 100 bucks a barrel

or we could just let you yankees freeze in the fuckin dark.........

now to the topic

what a total bullshit idea to come up with

I thought the polls say that palin wont be elected anyway;

sommeone had better tell AMericanunity that the election AINT over yet then.........

CANNOT in good conscience

Cut her some slack. She's a Republican.

Well the democrats have thrown everything else at her.

#19 | Posted by koolaidfree at 2008-10-06 10:56 PM

I have nothing personal against Sarah Palin (although I think she's a lousy mother who puts her lust for the political limelight before her young children). Still, she'd probably be fun to just hang around with as a friend. But as very possibly the next President -- absolutely NOT.

Come on, she doesn't have a clue on foreign affairs, she's "incurious", backwards as far as science and evolution, and bases her future decisions on foreign affairs with way too much religion involved -- such as her willingness to allow Israel to get away with anything it wants.

Err, do those traits sound familiar? Just like the same clown we've had in the Oval Office for the last eight years.
The LAST thing our country needs is another "useful idiot" as President -- a jovial, good ol' boy (or good ol' gal) who will do exactly as told by the Neocons who already have their claws in her.

Forget about political party for a minute -- what stuns me about the Republicans is that they are so blinded and puzzled why McCain's foisting of some absolutely clueless and totally ill-prepared woman on us as a possible VP (let alone President) is seen as a direct slap in the face by the majority of Americans. To McCain , his picking of Palin comes off like just some stunt, a novelty act to help him get elected -- like McCain does not take the positions of VP and President with any seriousness at all.

If there ever was a time in history when Ameicans need a President with brains, ability, and seriousness to be able to handle the mess we've been put in for the last eight years it's this election.

How dare McCain play games with our country by trying to foist some too cutsey, folksy, phony like Palin on our country. It's an insult to all Americans that McCain wants to turn the VP position into a joke. Palin hasn't had an original thought in her head that was a GOP talking point since she first opened her mouth.

And Palin has had enough time now to convince me and most Americans she definitely is not a quick learner.

If there ever was a time in history when Ameicans need a President with brains, ability, and seriousness to be able to handle the mess we've been put in for the last eight years it's this election.

CC

There is a candidate like that running for office with a major party. You still planning on throwing your vote away on a 3rd party candidate?

:-)

If Texas was given back to Mexico then maybe that bigot Lou Dobbs would be broadcasting from a Mexican prison.

If Sarah Palin ever became Prsident, that might be the start of the break-up of the United States.

New York and California first.

[edit] Oath
Unlike the president, the United States Constitution does not specify an oath of office for the vice president. Several variants of the oath have been used since 1789; the current form, which is also recited by Senators, Representatives and other government officers, has been used since 1884 (words in brackets are not officially part of the oath and are said by tradition):

I, [Vice-President Elect's name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

although I think she's a lousy mother who puts her lust for the political limelight before her young children - CC

CC, what about obama? What about Biden? Does this only apply to females who succeed in politics/business?

Look, maybe we can sell Alaska back to the Rooskies that Sarah can see from her home.

I should think that a Volga cruise and about ten liters of Stoli would pay for it. herm