The current economic crisis demands that we understand John McCain's attitudes about economic oversight and corporate influence in federal regulation. Nothing illustrates the danger of his approach more clearly than his central role in the savings and loan scandal of the late '80s and early '90s.

John McCain was accused of improperly aiding his political patron, Charles Keating, chairman of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association. The bipartisan Senate Ethics Committee launched investigations and formally reprimanded Senator McCain for his role in the scandal -- the first such Senator to receive a major party nomination for president.

Given the Economic issue is the one that is getting America's attention, it would be worth questioning the benefit of Palin's "palling around" tact - and the wisdom of launching that kind of attack.

I was wondering when this would be brought back into the limelight.

This story should be accurately reported on now - re-treaded if you will.

The media should fully vet these candidates.

I just wish the media would apply even a fraction of scrutiny to Obama that they have toward the GOP ticket.

Both tickets should be fully vetted, not just the GOP.

whine

for the record Jeff, this is not the do nothing media vetting this or bringing this up, this is obama bringing this up.

major difference

It is not about vetting, it is about whether this is true.

mccain has clearly shown no fiduciary duty to the american people and slowly it has been shown palin is no better.

From Tim Dickinson's "Make-Believe Maverick: A Closer Look at the Life and Career of John McCain Reveals a Distrubing Record of Recklessness and Dishonesty" in the October 16 issue of Rolling Stone:

Another snippet from Tom Dickinson's informative (and lengthy) articlek, this on The Keating Five:

Who cares about Keating 5, the repubs want to abolish abortion and make the US a theocracy. And that's all we know. We don't even know what a theocracy is.

----ignorant republicans-------

McCain and his family took at least nine free trips at Keating's expense, and vacationed nearly every year at the mogul's estate in the Bahamas. There they would spend the days yachting and snorkeling and attending extravagant parties in a world McCain referred to as "Charlie Keating's Shangri-La." Keating also invited Cindy McCain and her father to invest in a real estate venture for which he promised a 26 percent return on investment. They plunked down more than $350,000.

Maverickism.

Yes he was a maverick. He even decided he didn't have to obey the laws everybody else has to obey.

Add to that Palins illegal activities and you have two mavericks that are just common everyday crooks.

He was such a maverick, he didn't vote for his own immigration bill.

Maverickpalooza.

"I am going to sue." - Bret Maverick

We've talked about McCain's cronies: folks like Charlie Black, Rick Davis and McCain's other lobbyist buddies whose clients stand to make millions more from their McCain access if he's elected president.

We've talked about Phil Gramm, whose deregulation zeal has been matched by McCain's similar deregulation policies and philosophies.

There's Mark Buse, McCain's current Senate chief of staff, who has been through the revolving door from lobbyist to staffer a few too many times. Turns out Buse lobbied not just for telecoms, but also was hired specifically as a Freddie Mac lobbyist because of his close relationship with McCain. Just like Rick Davis. Cozy.

Why have all of these folks spent their lobbying and influence peddling careers buzzing around McCain? Because it works.

It's about time!

About damn time. Timing the release of the documentary to noon is a nice touch.

Is this a racist attack by Obama? Since Wall Street and the Banking Industry is predominately white guys, Obama is launching a smear on WHITEY! Libs should be outraged!

Thom,

Don't drink the bong water.

You're welcome.

Wait a minute. A Democrat is taking the offensive in a Presidential race? What is the world coming to?!

Gee, I wonder why McLame has told Sarah to lay off mentioning Obama's preacher in the new smear campaign (that they have to revert to as they now have no other shot in their lockers)... Why is that ya witch proof, Jesus is coming back in my lifetime, only Alsakans will survive the coming rapture, nutbag ya, huh Sarah? *wink*

4 out of the five were democrats and it was investigated and found that there was no wrong-doing by mccain. the other 4 DEMOCRATES??? look it up

Nobama is paying with fire, And, more and more people are finding out that it's the democrates that caused this current mess

Now Barrack, take it one step further and connect the Bush Family, organized crime and Wall Street in a worldwide fraud against working people.

60 minutes has estimated the damage to tax paying workers in this worldwide sam is about $56 trillion. The $700 billion criminal bailout is useless against such numbers. Worse it rewards the actual perpetrators of these crimes.

Of course few criminals in the S&L disaster were punished for the S&L fraud. None in a manner would reduce white collar crime.

Wow - political smears...more change we can believe in I see. How about they stop taling about 20 years ago and both admit that they just stole $700B from the American people last week? If you vote for either party after that blatant theft, you are too dumb to vote at all.

ron paul '08!

How about they stop taling about 20 years ago....

As soon as I stop hearing the name "Jeremiah Wright."

Wow - political smears...more change we can believe in I see. How about they stop taling about 20 years ago and both admit that they just stole $700B from the American people last week? If you vote for either party after that blatant theft, you are too dumb to vote at all.

How about we start talking about the NEXT $700 billion they are going to ask for next week.

Wow - political smears...

#23 | Posted by Jacque_Strap

This "guilt-by-association" tactic was, as usual, started by the McCain campaign even before their new attack dog, Sarah, got into it. With all the crap that both McCain and Palin have at their feet, it was an unwise decision at best. But of course, McRetard is a gambler and was hoping for a big payoff...which he will get by getting his ass handed to him on Nov. 4

Ouch...

Quoting directly from Robert Bennett on the Keating 5 investigation....

"I had recommended that John McCain be cut out of it and not go forward. And, you know, I call it the way I see it. As I said, I'm a Democrat. And I recommended they go forward against Senators DeConcini, Senator Cranston and Senator Riegle.

But if you cut out John McCain, you would have had 28 days of public hearings with just Democrats in the dock. So, it's probably the first time in the history of the Senate that they rejected the advice of their counsel to exonerate a senator."

The Keating scandal cost the taxpayers billions and cost the life savings of investors billions. Mr. 'anti-regulation' McCain's attitudes and actions towards deregulating the financial sector has now cost us even more billions.

What's ironic on another topic is that Sarah and Todd Palin make untrue accusations about someone Obama served on an education reform commission with, and yet they supported the Alaskan Independence Party who hate the U.S. Government and call for secession. Todd Palin was a member until she entered politics.

McSame campaining as a "change" candidate--with his track record--is the biggest fraud of all.

Well, you can't expect Sen. Obama to take the high ground and let McCain play dirty all he wants.

So finally maybe we'll see a nice campaign ad with McCain and Bush cutting a cake for John McCain's birthday while New Orleans drowned. "LET THEM EAT CAKE"

Perhaps we'll see some of the nice content that people frustrated with his silence on so much McCain buggery have already gathered together.

Too bad it had to come to this however, now it's a fair fight.

"The Keating scandal cost the taxpayers billions and cost the life savings of investors billions...." - AmericanUnity

Correct. Care to elaborate on the number of Democrats involved? Hint - 4 out of 5??????

"I had recommended that John McCain be cut out of it and not go forward. And, you know, I call it the way I see it. As I said, I'm a Democrat. And I recommended they go forward against Senators DeConcini, Senator Cranston and Senator Riegle.

But if you cut out John McCain, you would have had 28 days of public hearings with just Democrats in the dock. So, it's probably the first time in the history of the Senate that they rejected the advice of their counsel to exonerate a senator."

-Robert Bennett

"Who let the dogs out? Woof....Woof..Woof..Woof.Woof"

"The Keating scandal cost the taxpayers billions and cost the life savings of investors billions...." - AmericanUnity

Correct. Care to elaborate on the number of Democrats involved? Hint - 4 out of 5??????
posted by Libs R Below Me

"Correct. Care to elaborate on the number of those people currently running for POTUS? Hint - 1 out of 5."

Did he do anything wrong? Did he break any laws?

"I had recommended that John McCain be cut out of it and not go forward. And, you know, I call it the way I see it. As I said, I'm a Democrat. And I recommended they go forward against Senators DeConcini, Senator Cranston and Senator Riegle.

But if you cut out John McCain, you would have had 28 days of public hearings with just Democrats in the dock. So, it's probably the first time in the history of the Senate that they rejected the advice of their counsel to exonerate a senator."

-Robert Bennett

Guys, you have just given away $700B to save friends of Bush and Paulson. If I were you, I'd go out on the streets with posters of 'Che' and start a revolution or something.

Independent reader from Russia.

#38 | Posted by Libs_R_Below_Me at 2008-10-06 12:22 PM

Where does it say they had to take the advice of their counsel?

Nowhere?

Thank you.

PS: John McCain was Charlie Keating's buttboy and there was no way in hell he was going to wriggle out of that one unscathed. In the end, the ethics panel found he had lousey judgment. And in that, they were downright presceint.

AP: "And it's simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts. Obama was 8 years old at the time the Weather Underground claimed credit for numerous bombings and was blamed for a pipe bomb that killed a San Francisco policeman."

All right, who actually said Obama was associating with Ayers when he was 8? Surely that couldn't have been something taken out of context and used as Obama's defense and innocence could it? Oh, I remember. Obama said this silly statement himself. This makes it all better now...see for yourself by re-reading the above statement by the AP. Yea, Obama is absolved.

"In 1991, McCain, along with his four Democratic colleagues, was found guilty by the Senate Ethics Committee of using "poor judgment" for attending the meetings with regulators on Keating's behalf."

Did he do anything wrong? Did he break any laws?
posted by Libs R Below Me

Honestly Obama shouldn't have taken it to this point. He should have kept to his strong points and that's talking about the issues. McCain is in full desperation mode, Obama didn't need to go here. Both of them should get a big thumbs down for these bullshit tactics.

How about they stop taling about 20 years ago....

As soon as I stop hearing the name "Jeremiah Wright."

Wright happened 20 years ago? Funny, I thought Obama attended his racist church up until a few months ago. Not that it matters to me - I don't think Obama is against whitey. But, it does show he is 100% politician with no convictions or morals whatsoever - hell, even Jeremia Wright said that about him. Yet, you will line up and vote for him out of stupidity, 'anyone but a republican', or 'it is about time a black dude is presidenty'....I don't care which, all 3 are equally insane in my opinion.

"Specifically, Mr. McCain singled out the evangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell as "corrupting influences on religion and politics" and said parts of the religious right were divisive and even un-American."

"After reviewing my report, the committee voted on October 23, 1990, to hold a public adjudicatory fact-finding hearing in the matter as to all five senators. This was perhaps the first time the recommendation of a special counsel not to charge a senator was rejected. This was pure politics as the Democrats on the committee did not want to cut McCain loose so that only Democrats would remain in the proceedings. If Senator McCain was not going to be cut loose, in retaliation the Republicans were going to keep Senator Glenn in the proceedings. McCain was the victim of politics, and poor Glenn was held captive to the decision on McCain. So much for nonpartisanship." -- Democratic Keating Investigation Counsel Robert Bennett

Too bad it had to come to this however, now it's a fair fight.

#32 | Posted by fresno500 at 2008-10-06 12:15 PM | Reply |

Except now the victory will be determined by whoever can sling the most shit, not on who can best take the country out of the shitter.

What's shameful about the S & L crisis and bailout is that McCain didn't learn a damn thing and kept on fighting for deregulation of the banking industry - leading to our current trillion dollar mess.

Of course, his crowd uses 'winter' as a verb.

Sorry but, Obama would not have stooped to this if McSame hadn't virtually pronounced his decision to go dirty. I doubt seriously that Obama is happy with this turn in the campaign.

But ya know what? Fuck McSame and the Republicans, I hope the Democrats smear the crap out of them, Swiftboat and all. The next thing Obama should bring up is McSame's betrayal of POW/MIAs.

Obama has mountains of cash, I hope he's got the balls to put it where it belongs.

The keating scandal will play well with the stock market imploding. It will link McBush with banking scandals.

Down 691 now. Not good.

And Obama accuses the other side of smears? The guy who handed out the indictments for Keating said that the only reason McCain was associated with them was for political reasons. Compare that to Obama's felon friends, buying him property and setting off his political career from parties at their houses.

"The guy who handed out the indictments for Keating said that the only reason McCain was associated with them was for political reasons."

Who was that and when did he say it?

Is this a racist attack by Obama? Since Wall Street and the Banking Industry is predominately white guys, Obama is launching a smear on WHITEY! Libs should be outraged!

#17 | Posted by fwthom

Wow. A new level of dumbness.

Obama brings up McLame's financial shenanigans in the Keating 5 scandal?

'Bout Bloody Time!!!

He was such a maverick, he didn't vote for his own immigration bill.

~726

Hell, Yawn McLame is such a maverick he even broke his own campaign finance reform law running in this campaign.

Which the media (that Jeff keeps insisting is giving Obama a pass) mostly ignored while noting night and day that Obama's decision to forgo public financing was contrary to an earlier stated position.

Tut tut!

Here's the deal with John McLame...

He voted with Bush 91% of the time.

The few principled stands he took against Bush back then have now all been flip flopped back into Bush-supporting positions.

/Make the tax cuts permanent anyone?

A vote fer John McCain is a vote fer economic suicide.

He's been vetted and the vetting returned a picture of an unscrupulous "say anything" politician with a lust fer personal power and an appalling sense of entitlement and penchant fer cronyism.

The fact that he's got Fundy Ferraro waiting in the wings fer his 72 yar old ticker to give out is equally scary.

G08ama!

Be Well.

DISNEY -

You've claimed:

"The guy who handed out the indictments for Keating said that the only reason McCain was associated with them was for political reasons."

Who was that and when did he say it?

And Obama accuses the other side of smears?

Hell yeah, at least the left has more class than to resort to e-mail whispering campaigns with completely racist and untrue smears.

The guy who handed out the indictments for Keating said that the only reason McCain was associated with them was for political reasons.

Keating himself sed he gave favours to McCain in return fer political largesse just before he got sent to the Big House.

Compare that to Obama's felon friends, buying him property and setting off his political career from parties at their houses.

Rezko and Wright and Ayers. Oh My!!

Keep repeating yer trilogy of terror, asswipe.

It only has traction among the braindead like yerself.

Rezko did not buy a house fer Obama.

Obama payed a fair market price and got a reasonable loan in order to do so despite all right wing propaganda to the contrary. The fact that Rezko worked both sides of the aisle including holding fiundraisers fer Shrubby never seems to enter into it fer them.

Wright has been smeared into the ground by the R-tards and portrayerd as something he is not until it is assumed he is some kinda monster. Patently untrue.

When Ayers was a wingnutty domestic terrorist wannabe Obama was 8 years old. By the time Obama entered politics in Chicago Ayers had grown up and was doing useful work fer his community.

Yer guilt by association smears are pathetic.

McCain's obvious corruption by Charles Keating is relevant and a good indicator of why McAncient does not deserve the post of POTUS.

One of many.

G08ama!

Be Well.

I agree that BOTH candidates need to be vetted in regards to improper actions.

Both candidate are tied to the financial housing / credit crisis as well.

McCain for the Keating 5 which was a scandal involving the Lincoln Savings and Loan company. Although this took place in 1989, it is what it is and very similar to what is going on today.

Obama for his actions with ACORN. ACORN virtually intimidated banks into granting loans to low income people who could not afford to pay them back. Obama not only condoned these actions but was at the forefront. Obama and people just like him are the top of the list of "who to blame" for this current housing bubble mess.

He voted with Bush 91% of the time.

Maverickism at it's finest.

From John McCain's memoir Worth the Fighting For:

Charlie Keating, his family and associates donated over $100,000 for my first campaign, and for each of the two that followed. That was a hell of a lot of money in those days.... Supporters like Charlie were not easy to come by for a first-time candidate, and I made damn sure that he knew how much I appreciated his support.

More important, I became friends with Charlie, his family, and many of the top executives and employees of his company. [pp. 59]

. . . . .

He was as close to the archetype of the high-flying eighties chief executive as anyone I had encountered, and he was a hell of a lot of fun to be around.

On several occasions, he invited Cindy and me to his beautiful vacation retreat at Cat Cay in the Bahamas, flying us there, with our infant daughter, Meghan, and her nanny, on his private jet....

He entertained us lavishly, as was his style. We would all crowd on his yacht, off for a day of swimming and snorkeling, and then return for another extravagant party with the best wine, food, and entertainment available...

"Keating Five", "Wall Street", "Banking Industry" are all code words for "WHITEY", replacing some of Obama's and Rev Wight's favorites: "Cracker", "Redneck" and "Honky".

The few of you who so proudly claim to be reading people should be reading the newest Rolling Stone to see what a total shitstain Johnny McPOW was, is, and probably always will be!

This allegation set off a series of investigations by the California government, the United States Department of Justice, and the Senate Ethics Committee. The ethics committee's investigation focused on five senators: Alan Cranston (D-CA); Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ); John Glenn (D-OH); John McCain (R-AZ); and Donald W. Riegle, Jr. (D-MI), who became known as the "Keating Five".

After months of testimony revealed that all five senators acted improperly to differing degrees, the senators maintained they were following the status quo of campaign funding practices. In August 1991, the committee concluded that Cranston's, DeConcini's, and Riegle's conduct constituted substantial interference with the FHLBB's enforcement efforts and that they had interfered at the behest of Charles Keating. The Ethics Committee concluded that Glenn's and McCain's involvement in the scheme was minimal.

The Senate Ethics Committee exonerated John McCain in 1991 from any wrongdoing in the Keating affair;

The Senate Ethics Committee exonerated John McCain in 1991 from any wrongdoing in the Keating affair;

Which means nothing, since there's nothing linking Obama in any serious way to Ayers. Yet McCain and Palin went that route - why?

Defend all you wish. It won't matter any more than all the defenses the Democrats have done over Ayers. The difference of course is that the number one issue in America is the Economy. Not the Weather Underground.

Guess who wins?

It was stupid of the McCain campaign to go the route they did. Palin repeated the claims in Clearwater, FL today.

In short, Republicans, you dealt it, you eat it.

JOHN47

ROLLING F'ING STONE????

Is that where you get your unbiased political news?

Let me tell you exactly what Rolling Stone political articles state.

Democrats/Good, Republicans/Bad.

Now you don't even have to read the political articles anymore. You can just take a big hit from the bong and read the reviews for the lastest Phish CD.

Rolling Stone...give me a break.

DETHSPUD

Sorry but Obama did buy his home well below market value. Rezko bought the vacant lot right next to him...coincidence? I think not. Actually Rezko then sold part of that lot to Obama.

You are right that Obama was 8 when Ayers was blowing shit up, but Obama forged his relationship with Ayers when he was all grown up. Obama had Presidential aspirations early in his career and had one of his politcal "coming out" parties hosted at Ayers home. If you want to use relationships while climbing to the top then be prepared to defend that relationship at a later point. Of course, he doesnt need anyone to defend the realtionship...he has A-Holes like you who defend it for him.

All you Libs tell us how F-ing smart Obama is, yet apparently not smart enough to look into the future and question who he should and should not have relationships with.

You can go ahead and say shit about McCain, but I am not in his camp either. I just crack up when people defend the indefensible.

He was only 8...give me a break. Nice try.

God, the rethugs at DR crack me up.

Obama bought his house at market price. He made an offer, and the owners, who'd had their house on the market for months, accepted it.

Duh.

And I suppose serving on an education commission equates with a deep personal friendship.

You're desperate fools.

Monday, October 06
Race (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Ohio FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 47, McCain 48 McCain +1 (others show Obama up 7 and 8 points)
Florida FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 52, McCain 45 Obama +7
Virginia FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 50, McCain 48 Obama +2
Colorado FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 51, McCain 45 Obama +6
Missouri FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 50, McCain 47 Obama +3
Virginia SurveyUSA Obama 53, McCain 43 Obama +10
North Carolina PPP (D) McCain 44, Obama 50 Obama +6
New Hampshire SurveyUSA Obama 53, McCain 40 Obama +13
National CNN Obama 53, McCain 45 Obama +8
National Gallup Tracking Obama 50, McCain 42 Obama +8
National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 52, McCain 44 Obama +8
National Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 47, McCain 41 Obama +6
Virginia Suffolk Obama 51, McCain 39 Obama +12
National Democracy Corps (D) Obama 49, McCain 46 Obama +3
Pennsylvania Morning Call Tracking Obama 49, McCain 38 Obama +11
National Democracy Corps (D) Obama 48, McCain 45, Nader 3, Barr 2 Obama +3
National GW/Battleground Tracking Obama 50, McCain 43 Obama +7
New Mexico Albuquerque Journal Obama 45, McCain 40 Obama +5
Georgia Research 2000 McCain 50, Obama 43 McCain +7

just go back and review the case and see where mccain AS WELL AS JOHN GLENN were not found to have been involved as you on the left would wish
even the procecutor said that it was a waste of time for mccain to be there

so lets get it all out since obama is SCARED TO DEATH of us knowing who his "PALS" are????????

hey bill

bombed anything lately???????????

hey rezko

any good LAND SWINDLES COME AROUND IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO......

New poll posted:

OHIO - ABCNEWS/Washington Post

Obama +6

Bravo Barrack Obama !!! Do what John Kerry wouldn't do to George W. Bush....Kick him in balls till they are swollen to the size of Grapefruits !!!

sure and when he brings it up lets hope that he tells THE ENTIRE STORY

the one where he AND DEMOCRAT JOHN GLENN were cleared and the Prosecutor was quoted as saying that neither should have been involved

will ALL of that get out

of course not

speaking of getting out

later........

The Senate Ethics Committee exonerated John McCain in 1991 from any wrongdoing in the Keating affair;

#64 | Posted by reinsurelaw at 2008-10-06 04:52 PM

That's probably because John McLame sold out his fellow conspirators to get away free and clear. Just like he sold out America when he was imprisoned by the Vietcong. You can always count on McLame to sell you out when the going gets tough.

And, more and more people are finding out that it's the democrates that caused this current mess

#21 | Posted by Maverick

Between your ID and your post, there are at least two words all the rethugs will have to look up in the dictionary before posting at FreeRepublic

Ah yes, repeat a lie enough times and the sheeple will believe it.
FACT: McCain was not found guilty of ANYTHING having to do with the Keating Five by the DEMOCRATIC Prosecutor for the Senate Ethics Committee.
Sort of like the Republicans spending $70 million to investigate Bill and Hillary Clinton and coming up empty.

Read them and weep, Obama Robots... but be careful, your joints might RUST!

But then you can get some oil from Obama's friend, Weather Underground bomber William Ayers...
after all, he is a memeber of Hugo Chavez's Venezuelan think tank - Miranda International Center.

"Czar Barack Obama, William Ayers and Hugo Chavez -
the NEW Axis of Evil...."

What a stupid piece of shit you are. Why not Obama, Stalin, Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson while you're at it. Asshole.

McCain was not found guilty of ANYTHING having to do with the Keating Five

This is humorous. Guilt has nothing to do with it - you don't see your hypocrisy? Of course you don't.

Let me spell this out. Guilt by association in Obama's case is flimsy, but guilt by association between McCain and Charles Keeting is far from that. The quotes from McCain and Keating have been posted in this thread. Let's recap:

#60 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

Charlie Keating, his family and associates donated over $100,000 for my first campaign, and for each of the two that followed. That was a hell of a lot of money in those days.... Supporters like Charlie were not easy to come by for a first-time candidate, and I made damn sure that he knew how much I appreciated his support.

More important, I became friends with Charlie, his family, and many of the top executives and employees of his company. [pp. 59]
. . . . .
He was as close to the archetype of the high-flying eighties chief executive as anyone I had encountered, and he was a hell of a lot of fun to be around.

On several occasions, he invited Cindy and me to his beautiful vacation retreat at Cat Cay in the Bahamas, flying us there, with our infant daughter, Meghan, and her nanny, on his private jet....
He entertained us lavishly, as was his style. We would all crowd on his yacht, off for a day of swimming and snorkeling, and then return for another extravagant party with the best wine, food, and entertainment available...
I would be lying if I were to deny... just how eagerly I awaited invitations to Charlie Keating's Shangri-la. [pp. 60]

#6 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

When asked by reporters if the investments he made in politicians bought their loyalty and influence on his behalf, Keating replied, "I want to say in the most forceful way I can, I certainly hope so."
www.rollingstone.com

And here we are again, today.

McCain has consistently shown nothing but bad judgement for his entire career.

JOHN47

ROLLING F'ING STONE????

Is that where you get your unbiased political news?

Let me tell you exactly what Rolling Stone political articles state.

Democrats/Good, Republicans/Bad.

Now you don't even have to read the political articles anymore. You can just take a big hit from the bong and read the reviews for the lastest Phish CD.

Rolling Stone...give me a break.

#66 | Posted by ChiTownGuy

As many people did who went to college in the early 1970's, I learned to do a proper library research paper. The Rolling Stone article was a jumping-off point for some Internet research, which is what people do now. Google a few topic sentence ideas from the article, and see what you find. Instead of denigrating people who might know more than you, you should do some research on your own.

I don't smoke dope, and I resent your implication. Do you get all of your talking points from Faux News and Rush Limpbone?

Keeting* Keating.

Meanwhile, many wonder why Obama's connection with Raila Odinga is little known.

Who is Raila Odinga and what is Obama's connection?

JOHN 47 Wrote:

The few of you who so proudly claim to be reading people should be reading the newest Rolling Stone to see what a total shitstain Johnny McPOW was, is, and probably always will be!

My response was for the above posting. No where did you mention doing any research. What you did mention was that you read Rolling Stone and felt the that we should all read the article. Of course we should all assume that you also did internet research to validate the facts.

If you were a really big proponent of internet research I am not so sure you would be in the Obama camp.

Then you attempt to turn the tables on me. Is there one of my postings that mention that I listen to Rush? Remember, you're the one who put in print for all to see...I READ FAR LEFT MAGAZINES TO GAIN INFORMATION AND TO HELP ME DEVELOP MY POLTICAL INSIGHTS.

In your most recent posting you also made light of the fact that McCain was a POW. McPOW was the term wasn't it? Is that f'ing funny to you? The guy serves his country, goes through years of torture so ass wipes like you can make comments like that?

Your parents must be proud.