Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Saturday, October 04, 2008

In a campaign appearance Saturday, Sarah Palin accused Barack Obama of "palling around with terrorists" because of an old association with a former '60s radical.

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They are sunk and they know it.

Larry

LARRY

McCain's in a conundrum.

Going negative cost him his image for 'straight talk' and casts him in the same mold as those who villified him in SC in 2000.

Voters aren't too keen on negative ads this year - THANK GOD! About time the voters woke up.

"About time voters woke up...."

It is interesting none of the swiftboating appears to have traction this year. Maybe it's because people know it's their asses on the line this time.

They'll will be chanting Rezko/Wright/Ayers for the rest of the campaign. In other words, mimicking the Hillary campaign, and will probably have the same results.

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That will just make McCain seem smaller than he already is. As ZED pointed out voters know it's their asses on the line this time.

Well I hope you're right, but this is the same electorate that elected Bush twice.

Sarah.....Barack was 8 years old, what the fucX are you talking about.

From the Breitbart article:

Obama, who was a child when the group was active, served on a charity board with Ayers

And therein lies the connection. God, they're desperate.

sarah is a real hay dare piece of alaska shit

Is there any advantage to running for president but not winning it? I can't figure it out. It almost seems like mcstupid wants to give the election away.

I wonder how Palin feels about her husband palling with American hating secessionists.

Just when you thought they'd never be able to find someone else as stupid as Bush.

John McCain is now taking the low road to the highest office in the land. John has valid policy arguments against Obama and he should play those out, but this is such a turnoff. It is sad to see him just give up.

Sad.

"Sad."

Posted by Apocalypto

www.wmdave.com

She is such an evil cunt. I hope the IRS nails her to the barn door for evading taxes.

"It almost seems like mcstupid wants to give the election away." - Lipzoidal


The one fact that gives me pause about Obama (oh, ok, that and his support of nuclear energy) is right there. It's almost like the Republicans engineered the loss.

Manchurian candidate? Guess we'll see, but he still gets my vote thus far. If he's telling the truth, it'll be awesome, if he's full of it, well, it'll be good to show the country just how many parties we really have in this country.

Sarah needs to keep guarding the American Border for Putin when he rears his ugly head into Alaska.

Palin lies with such a straight face and THIS should be countered immediatly from Barack himself in an ad. Show the country what a dangerous person she can be. I mean everyone can lie but when someone will probably lie as a modus operandi to conduct business that is a whole different matter.

Try googling Sarah Palin's Fireside Chat. It's priceless. herm

Or the latest addition to my Palin e-mail file, now 225 K's:

[The]AlaskaWomen Reject Palin rally was to be held outside on the lawn in front of the Loussac Library in midtownAnchorage. Homemade signs were encouraged, and the idea was to make a statement that Sarah Palin does not speak for allAlaskawomen, or men. I had no idea what to expect.

The rally was organized by a small group of women, talking over coffee. It made me wonder what other things have started with small groups of women talking over coffee. It's probably an impressive list. These women hatched the plan, printed up flyers, posted them around town, and sent notices to local media outlets. One of those media outlets was KBYR radio, home of Eddie Burke, a long-time uber-conservativeAnchoragetalk show host. Turns out that Eddie Burke not only announced the rally, but called the people who planned to attend the rally "a bunch of socialist baby-killing maggots," and read the home phone numbers of the organizers aloud over the air, urging listeners to call and tell them what they thought. The women, of course, received some nasty, harassing and threatening messages.

I felt a bit apprehensive. I'd been disappointed before by the turnout at other rallies. Basically,inAnchorage, if you can get 25 people to show up at an event, it's a success. So, I thought to myself, if we can actually get 100 people there that aren't sent by Eddie Burke, we'll be doing good. A real statement will have been made. I confess, I still had a mental image of 15 demonstrators surrounded by hundreds of menacing "socialist baby-killing maggot" haters.

It's a good thing I wasn't tailgating when I saw the crowd in front of the library or I would have ended up in somebody's trunk. When I got there, about 20 minutes early, the line of sign wavers stretched the full length of the library grounds, along the edge of the road, 6 or 7 people deep! I could hardly find a place to park. I nabbed one of the last spots in the library lot, and as I got out of the car and started walking, people seemed to join in from every direction, carrying signs.

Never, have I seen anything like it in my 17 and a half years living in Anchorage. The organizers had someone walk the rally with a counter, and they clicked off well over 1400 people (not including the 90 counter-demonstrators). This was the biggest political rally ever, in the history of the state. I was absolutely stunned. The second most amazing thing is how many people honked and gave the thumbs up as they drove by. And even those that didn't honk looked wide-eyed and awe-struck at the huge crowd that was growing by the minute.This just doesn't happen here.

Then, the infamous Eddie Burke showed up. He tried to talk to the media, and was instantly surrounded by a group of 20 people who started shouting O-BA-MA so loud he couldn't be heard.Then passing cars started honking in a rhythmic pattern of 3, like the Obama chant, while the crowd cheered, hooted and waved their signs high.

So, if you've been doing the math Yes. TheAlaskaWomen Reject Palin rally was significantly bigger than Palin's rally that got all the national media coverage! So take heart, sit back, and enjoy the photo gallery. Feel free to spread the pictures around to anyone who needs to know that Sarah Palin most definitely does not speak for all Alaskans.The citizens ofAlaska, who know her best, have things to say.

I'm just the messenger. herm

I've been avoiding that C word Legio... but it sure fits her to a tee !

A current electoral poll :
No Toss Ups: Obama 353, McCain 185

Going in I didn't feel hatred for McCain... now I'd like to see him take a crushing defeat, send him whimpering back to the senate.

They'll will be chanting Rezko/Wright/Ayers for the rest of the campaign.

They waited too long. It won't work.

"They waited too long, it won't work...."

From what I can tell they are nonetheless sharpening their knives.

But it is too bad from their point of view they've waited until Obama opened up a ten point lead in some states that were until recently termed battlegrounds.

Husseins only freinds are terrorists, philandering racists, and convicted felons. You spend all your time insulting Sarah Palins children while ignoring the fact that Hussein is the least qualified and most corrupt person to EVER run for the presidency.

How sad for you.

Is it just me or is thread laid out in anew format?

Rex, good to see things haven't changed, you're still as thick as a brick.

Oh well, at leat PWZ is doing well.

"thick as a brick"

www.youtube.com

Hussein has never accomplished anything, everything he has ever touched has turned to shit.

That public housing he worked on as a community organizer? A ruined slum.

The radical school agenda he and terroist Bill Ayers worked on? Scrapped and forgotten.

The racist church he belonged to? Discredited and dispised.

His work extorting FNMA? almost ruined our economy

If those lowlife didn't have the MSM running cover for him, he would be laughed off the national stage.

Time to talk about McCain's terrorist pal, Oliver North, who is responsible for far more actual acts of terrorism and deaths than Ayers.

'Wright', America the terrorist nation. Husseins sentiment exactly.

"He would be laughed off the national stage....."

Pretty much as it appears the Republican Party will be, eh wot?

I guess Rex would endorse the idea that Bad Presidents make for Bad Elections. God knows, the prez we've had these last eight years was a nightmare.

Husseins a sham, a rorshach test in which you can project your own opinon and feelings on with no basis in fact.

Can anyone tell me one thing that Hussein has done in his entire life that makes him worthy of being the Commander in Cheif of America?

One signature accomplishment done for the betterment of America as a nation.

Anyone?

Couldn't get into Harvard Law, could you, Rex?

"Everybody who ever did it never did it before."
-Lenny Bruce

"In fact, McCain does have a supporter who is far more of a terrorist than Bill Ayers. His name is Oliver North. Ayers was never prosecuted for any crime. North, by contrast, was convicted (he got away with it because his testimony to Congress provided him with immunity).

In case you've forgotten, North was a central figure in the Iran-Contra scandal of the Reagan Administration. The weapons illegally supplied by North to Iran and the Contras were used by both groups to kill innocent people. And that makes him a direct supporter of terrorism.

So what is the McCain campaign's position toward this terrorist supporter? Have they denounced his views? No, McCain's own campaign website promotes the endorsement of him by Oliver North.

And what is the media's position on McCain's terrorist supporter? Have they written articles bringing up North's past crimes and his links to McCain? Have they contacted the McCain campaign to ask if the McCain will distance himself from his controversial supporter? Actually, the Washington Post blog did ask the McCain campaign, "Is McCain pleased to receive North's endorsement, given the fact that the failed GOP senatorial candidate was convicted in 1989 of shredding documents, accepting an illegal gratuity and aiding and abetting in the obstruction of Congress?" The McCain campaign declined to criticize North or remove their link to his endorsement: "We'll let the comments in the release stand," wrote spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker in an e-mail. The Post also notes in its blog that McCain supported North in his 1994 campaign for the Senate in Virginia. But no one else in the press has uttered a word about the subject. "

www.obamapolitics.com

Zed

Be a little more sensitive. Rex's own congressional candidate won't identify himself as a "Republican".

It's "GOP" or nothing.

Zed, President Bush is gone now, he is over.

But for me he accomplished three significant things.

1. After 9/11 he took the war to the terrorists, no longer was it a legal matter, it was war.

Not one terrorist attack on US soil since then.

2. He Wiped out most of the taliban and turned Afghanistan and Pakistan into our nominal allies against islamic terroists.

3. He killed Saddam Hussein and stopped the genocide he and the batthists were waging in Iraq.

In my book, that is 3 for 3.

Tis funny. Rex supports John McCain who is a guy that came from Privledge just like Dubya. But yet He condemns a Guy who came from a Family not of Privledge but of a broken home who wasn't wealthy by John McCain's nor Dubya's standards. Me thinks Rex feels wealth and Eliteness is a sign of greatness but pulling Yourself out from a hole or from a broken Family who ain't wealthy is to be scorned. Unfunny Dat Be.

Larry

2. He Wiped out most of the taliban


You've been listening to Ann Coulter again, huh?

1. After 9/11 he took the war to the terrorists, no longer was it a legal matter, it was war.


Not one terrorist attack on US soil since then.


2. He Wiped out most of the taliban and turned Afghanistan and Pakistan into our nominal allies against islamic terroists.


3. He killed Saddam Hussein and stopped the genocide he and the batthists were waging in Iraq.


In my book, that is 3 for 3.

#37 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2008-10-04 08:44 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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1.) Patently Untrue. There have been terrorist attacks upon US Soil since 9-11-01

2.)The Taliban/Al Qaeda is stronger than ever. Failure number 2 in Your qualifications.

3.) Yep He killed Saddam Hussein and stopped HIS Genocide but conducted His own genocide. Failure number 3 in Your qualifications.

Larry

Still no one comes forth and says, Hussein accomplished this and that, he fought for this and that, his freinds and allies were this person and that person.

Why?

Because you all know your sham, would be emperor, has no clothes.

You are terrified that the 20% of voters out there that are clueless to the truth will discover what a corrupt and phony shill Hussein is in the next 30 days.

I ask again, What are Husseins signature accomplishments that make him qualified to lead this nation?

Ted, I don't listen to the pundits, they listen to me.

If you have followed me for any lenght of time you know, I am the spearhead of the curb.

I don't repeat talking points, I am the genesis from which they originate.

Zeit- You seem like an intelligent person, but here's my retort to your 3.

1. The Bush Admin terribly dropped the ball regarding the events LEADING up to 9/11. There were plenty of evidence given to the Bush admin that there was a very good probability of a terroristic attack on US soil, specifically terrorists using planes as missiles.

2. Have you seen Afghanistan or Pakistan of late. The current situation is becoming worse rather than better, so I suggest you fact check the latest on those 2 countries before you are convinced they are our "nominal allies".

3. Saddam's killing was a footnote at best. He knew better not to tread with the US after he got his ass kicked in Kuwait. And beside, Saddam NEVER posed a threat to the US. Don't be naive.

In my book, you're batting .000. Bottom line, we need to control the Neocon Zionists in our country on stop supporting Israel because it's given this country nothing but problems since 1948.

"There were plenty of evidence given to the Bush admin that there was a very good probability of a terroristic attack on US soil, specifically terrorists using planes as missiles."

As I commented in this flight school www.swta.net back in the 90's, "Looks like we're training our own hijackers."

Some asshole named Atta used to rent my airplane.

Goddamn, Rex, how many fucking times do you have to post the same shit on one thread?

As for your #42 post, you and BL2 should get together; there wouldn't be any room for anyone else in the head with your two egos.

"What are Husseins signature accomplishments that make him qualified to lead this nation?"

Several obvious reasons, the primary reason being:

The idea of his being president pisses you off.

Mission accomplished.

2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.
2003
May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.
2004
May 2931, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.
June 1119, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.
Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.
2005
Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.
2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.
2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.
Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.
2008
May 26, Iraq: a suicide bomber on a motorcycle kills six U.S. soldiers and wounds 18 others in Tarmiya.
June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.
June 12, Afghanistan: four American servicemen are killed when a roadside bomb explodes near a U.S. military vehicle in Farah Province.
July 13, Afghanistan: nine U.S.soldiers and at least 15 NATO troops die when Taliban militants boldly attack an American base in Kunar Province, which borders Pakistan. It's the most deadly against U.S. troops in three years.
Aug. 18 and 19, Afghanistan: as many as 15 suicide bombers backed by about 30 militants attack a U.S. military base, Camp Salerno, in Bamiyan. Fighting between U.S. troops and members of the Taliban rages overnight. No U.S. troops are killed.
Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.

I am the spearhead of the curb.


What's that mean?

"Oh well, at leat PWZ is doing well."

LOL!!! Now, Funny flag or Newsworthy flag?

Rex is actually a confused tall, skinny, blonde, trannie.
She doesn't even know what she's typing because she is too distracted by stimulating her nipples while gazing a pic of Karl Rove and George Bush at the beach, in speedos.

Don't be too hard on the little gal, her delusions are all she has.

What's that mean?

Posted by TedBaxter at 2008-10-04 09:07 PM | Reply

Oh He is trying to make Himself out to be something He isn't. Don't worry about Rex. All of those people that were really in a position of power don't need validating.

Larry

"I am the spearhead of the curb."

So was Derek Vinyard.

You'll be tasting fucking curb!
-Frank Cotton

Seriously, this new format sucks.

Rex is actually a confused tall, skinny, blonde, trannie.


So what you're saying is that Rex is really Ann Coulter?

I Agree Briwo

So what you're saying is that Rex is really Ann Coulter?

#55 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2008-10-04 09:13 PM

Well he would like to think so.

Hahahahahah, I love it, still no awnser.

Still no 'Obama did this', Obama did that', 'Obama was the first person to ....'

This is why Hussein has no shot, and in just over a month he wlll recede into nothingness..... at least until he gets his own talk show 4 years from now.

So what you're saying is that Rex is really Ann Coulter?

#55 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2008-10-04 09:13 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Hey now THAT is My Girlfriend.

Curb?

www.codysortore.com

Rex, we learned from you righties how to dodge and deflect, why are you upset that we learned the lesson so well?

My favorite Bob Seeger.

www.codysortore.com

Damn, Larry, that's just wrong.

I can't help it. I found Her eye patch days pretty sexy. Don't know why I guess I am all fucked up. Who knows LMAO

Larry

Larry,
You need to go to a strip club and get good and drunk. That'll clear your head.

But back to the topic, actually it's Sarah(can I call you Sarah?)who is married to a terrorist,and a traitor, Todd Palin the anti-American, seccesionist.

her base will eat this crap up, but she doesn't need the base, she needs the undecideds, the moderates, unlikely these negative ads will sway this group. This has already been tried. Basically it's "bye bye" McCain!

where did she learn marketing? Comic book?

Hussein is the least qualified and most corrupt person to EVER run for the presidency.

How sad for you.

#25 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

What's really sad-rex-is you actually believe the bs you post.
It's going to take probably CENTURIES to find someone less qualified, or more corrupt than bush has been.

He's YOUR burden to bear-rex-remember that until the day you die.

What Palin said was true, Floppy hung with William Ayers, a confessed terrorist who blew up government buildings and said that he wished he could have done more. Aters helped The Appeaser to buy a house, sat on a board with him, and the terrorist, William Ayers helped start the Affirmatice Action candidates first political campaign. Libs are in denial again.

Anyway, Flop Ears will win anyway because of the economy, but I will have my revenge when I drive around on flat tires to use more gas and heat up the enviornment. If Dems get 60 in the seanate, I might do something radical.

Scorched Earth Thom

Some people dropped WAY too much acid in their high school days

(hint hint - look above)

FWTHOM-

re: If Dems get 60 in the seanate, I might do something radical.

Scorched Earth Thom

#70 | Posted by fwthom at 2008-10-04 11:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Like what?

A McCain-Palin rally was held in the just-completed Denaina Convention Center in downtown Anchorage.
here's a photo of the large Alaskan crowd that attended Palin's rally!
mudflats.files.wordpress.com

Secret Service and FBI, if you're using Carnivore on this site, see post #70

Possible domestic terrorist (definitely a couple bricks shy of a full load in any case)

Why would Ayers, an ideologically driven radical anti-American terrorist, have devoted so much time and energy over the years to the advancement of Obama's political career?

Sime the ideological imperative is the driver in "Bomber Bill" Ayers life, could it be because Ayers views Obama as a person, who would advance Ayers' ideological objectives?

Of course, Obama has long been in the car with anti-American racist hate-mongers such as "God damn America," hate-whitey, hate Jews, Rev. Wright, and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and grievance collectors against America such as Michelle Obama.

Why would Ayers promote Obama's political career if Ayers did not see Obama as a man advancing Ayers' political objectives?

These associations of Obama should be a cornerstone of McCain's campaign illustrated with embrace of these creatures as mentors and physically by Obama, and his emergence as a creature guided by their views.

Obama seems to be a psychopathic liar. But then, he is a politician. An analysis of his speeches with instruments designed to detect stress and truth-telling shows Obama far and above the least sincere, and McCain the most sincere.

Obama, who supports infanticide has even posted statements that he is "pro-life. yeah.

Whether Obama's behavior is attributable to psychopathy or narcissistic borderline personality disorder, is problematical. but his overwhelming narcissism is increasingly apparent.

Also, a focus of the campaign should be on Obama's brain-addled extemporaneous performances which are unfortunate life-long relics of his impairments due to his acknowledged drug use.

Obama does suffer from an addictive personality as evidenced by his chain-smoking, which has been concealed by the media, which does not display photos of him with cigarettes in his mouth that would be indicative of his addiction. With the cancer threat and heart problems due to smoking, Obama's inability to end his addiction shows poor judgment and abominably poor self-control. But he does have an oral addictive personality type. By the way, excessive smoking is a method of unconscious self-treatment by schizophrenics, who abate their conditions by this method. Obama is a seriously flawed individual. But since his black, it's all okay.

Possibly with the development of modern devices, fMRIs should be made of the candidates brains as they respond to questions to determine which systems guide their answers, and there should be measurements to determine if any functions are impaired as reflected by the size of various portions of the brain.

A drug-addled candidate self-medicating himself for schizophrenia. Hmm. Obama is the man.

Gov. Palin, continue to do your patriotic duty to expose the roots of this pal of America and American racist hate-mongers.

And he's not particularly stable either.

Why is it "low" to expose Obama for what he is rather than being "a duty" of the alert media and of course, decent and patriotic Americans, and of his opponents?

Johnson-
re: "An analysis of his speeches with instruments designed to detect stress and truth-telling shows Obama far and above the least sincere, and McCain the most sincere."

Really?

Why don't you link us to that analysis?

Obama does suffer from an addictive personality as evidenced by his chain-smoking, which has been concealed by the media, which does not display photos of him with cigarettes in his mouth that would be indicative of his addiction. With the cancer threat and heart problems due to smoking, Obama's inability to end his addiction shows poor judgment and abominably poor self-control. But he does have an oral addictive personality type. By the way, excessive smoking is a method of unconscious self-treatment by schizophrenics, who abate their conditions by this method. Obama is a seriously flawed individual. But since his black, it's all okay.


Possibly with the development of modern devices, fMRIs should be made of the candidates brains as they respond to questions to determine which systems guide their answers, and there should be measurements to determine if any functions are impaired as reflected by the size of various portions of the brain.

#76 | Posted by Johnson at 2008-10-05 12:19 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Just wanted to draw your attention to this.

Tells you everything and more you might have wanted to know about JOHNSON'S so-called "BRAIN"

A drug-addled candidate self-medicating himself for schizophrenia.

Maybe you shouldn't vote for McInsane then......

this did not work in Michigan as the McCain campaign pulled out of Michigan. That state is ground zero for the collapsed Main Street economy and for so-called Reagan Democrats, those white working-class voters who were kept being told by the right that Barack Obama is a Muslim who hung with bomb-throwing radicals during his childhood in the late 1960s. being told this was useless! Good Bye McCain/Palin

Johnson you have completely lost your bearings.

Are you interested in hooking your superdeluxe brain reading gizmo to McMaverick, or would you have favored peeking in the wee little Bush brain.

Or is this device reserved for candidates of a darker hue.

I can 't believe what I am hearing !!!

I was going to vote for Obama before Sarah Pa;in went public with this declaration that Obama is paling around with and loves terrorists that hate America!!!


I only have one question for you Sarah....Why do you and your first Dude Husband belong to the Alaska Independence Party (AIP) which has consistently advocated succession from United States of America ? Are you a Fuck'in Traitor? Do you advocate succession by terrorist means if necessary?

You know on second thought... I'm still going to vote for Obama...and as for you... your fuck'in Joe 6 Pack traitor husband can fuck you in in the ass with the handle of a broken broom handle.

Oh Johnson, you armchair hack - not all smokers are schizo, not to mention the schizos that don't smoke, but that's a nice regurgitation of a half a truth. Shall we talk about sitting presidents who toot the midnight train or believe God cured them of alcoholism?

Meanwhile, for the Troll who has everyone going, I hereby denounce your silly claim that Obama is unaccomplished or that it is never brought up.

A quick google search for "Obama Accomplishments" offers up plenty, but off the top of my head:

1) Reduced the world nuke arsenal while working with Sen Lugar, admittedly one of the easier Republicans to work with.

2) Succeeded in efforts of welfare reform, health care expansion, ethics reform while working with Wisconsin's Russ Feingold, in short, issues that matter to voters.

3) Exhibits rational forethought and calm in the midst of crisis, such as his call on the Iraq war (whether you agree or not is irrelevent, the point is, history, the nation and the world believe him right).

4) And here's one I hear frequently discounted - He leads. Whether you think he's the anti-christ or not, he sure gets the crowds going. I've seen it firsthand, so don't try any of that "free beer" BS. Even Hillary had to cordon off the crowds at her stop in my town, to keep them together for "crowd shots". Obama had to move his to a bigger venue, and it was a pretty diverse crowd. Despite the Limbaugh set, a LOT of Republicans are voting blue this year, not just because McCain is a twit, but because they actually trust Obama. Even if he does turn out to be Satan, that's a nice change of pace from what we've been having for the past gazillion years. It's been a long time since we've had someone who makes the majority of us feel good about America's government.

Really though, I think you are looking at this the wrong way. Obama could be Bill the freaking Cat and AMerica would vote for him, because at the end of the day, it is just too obvious to most folks that the McCain ticket is just asking for it all to come crashing down. It's a circus sideshow, andI think, at last, America has had it's fill of circus sideshows. We're like a college kid who just realized all the partying ends in flunking out. So it's not like the bar is very high this year. Old politics is dead.

I'll conclude by saying I come from Madison, where I frequently buy a sandwich from a guy that was convicted of blowing up a UW building in the hippie years. Does this make me a terrorist sympathizer?

online.wsj.com

Despite having authored two autobiographies, Barack Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.


AP
Bill Ayers.
The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

The Obama campaign has struggled to downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking through them.

The Obama campaign has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.

ANAMERICAN

So you are arguing Obama is a bomb-throwing radical? If you aren't, then all you are arguing is guilt by association.

To hell with the emptiness of the modern Republican Party. Go Obama.

www.pr-inside.com

THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE: (Version 2.0; a work in progress; dates are approximate)

1981-1983 [William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?]

1987 William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago

1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama's Harvard law School education

1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers' wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.

1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation

1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge

1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama's political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)

2007-2008 The structure of Obama's presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national "community organizer matrix" straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential "campaign." Obama's organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.

2008 Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was "six years old" when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances. A lie.

Even though we have finally started piecing the puzzle together, we continue to investigate. For example, where in Chicago did Barack Obama live in 1985-1988? Help if you have an address.

WHY THE SECRECY ABOUT OBAMA'S COLLEGE RECORDS?

(NEW YORK, NY)(September 12, 2008) Barack Obama had
the wrong calling. Instead of being a "community organizer" he should have joined the CIA. Obama knows how to cover his tracks. He could be called the "clandestine candidate."

Obama spent two years at Columbia University yet left virtually no fingerprints of his presence there. Could that be because Columbia was where Mr. Obama first met "mad bomber" William Ayers?

Obama has also refused to release his Columbia University transcripts. What secrets lurk there? Likewise for Occidental College where he attended for two years. What is he trying to hide? I arrived in the Columbia area to study theology at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine shortly after Obama had left, so I know the neighborhood well. I have gone back to retrace were he might have been. No luck. No footprints, either.

What has Obama's past behavior over the past four years taught me? When Obama is hiding something he is hiding something.

Is it just a coincidence that Obama and Ayers were on the Columbia campus together? Did they meet and make their initial contact at that time? Had Obama been turned on to Ayers by Frank Marshall Davis? Was there a Khalid Al-Mansour and William Ayers connection during this early period. Questions, questions. But no answers from Mr. Obama.

ANAMERICAN

Everything you post is just silly. And will be until you tell us what crime you think Obama committed.

The fact that Obama has crated a void concerning his college years, after claiming in his own book he went to New York to study in an urban environment, makes me queasy. Did he find what he was looking for in New York? What did he find? Who did he find? Blank.

What is Obama hiding?

No major party nominee for the presidency has led a life with, pardon the expression, black holes at crucial points in his life. Why was Obama invisible at Columbia? What would his college transcripts show? Why are the mainstream media tiptoeing away from any searching examination of Obama's college years?

The Wall Street Journal speculated that Obama is concealing that he received racial preferences and obtained his degree through affirmative action. Why wouldn't Obama want to put that theory to rest by releasing his college records?

ANAMERICAN

What crime?

While Obama's minions obviously want to vet Sarah Palin's past, he has precluded any vetting of his own peculiar history. He claims in his own words that he went to Columbia to find a black experience, and then says virtually nothing about those experiences.

BTW, all these posts are from the last mentioned link.


No major party nominee for the presidency has led a life with, pardon the expression, black holes at crucial points in his life.


Aside from GWB of course....


ANAMERICAN

Notice I'm just asking for what crime you think, not which one you could prove.

Another Weatherman terrorist a player in Obama campaign

Communists, socialists, anarchists also part of political organization

"One of the main founders of the Weathermen terrorist organization is a signatory to an independent organization acting to ensure the election of Sen. Barack Obama, WND has learned.

The group in question, Progressives for Obama, also includes among its ranks many former members of the 1960s radical organization Students for a Democratic Society, from which the Weathermen splintered, as well as current and former members of other radical organizations, such as the Communist Party USA and the Black Radical Congress.

In its creed, first published in March in the Nation magazine, the Progressives for Obama founders state their organization descended from the "proud tradition of independent social movements that have made America a more just and democratic country." "

"Among the signatories and endorsers to Progressives for Obama is Mark Rudd, one of the main founders of the Weathermen terrorist organization. Rudd worked closely for years with Weathermen terrorist William Ayers, whose association with Obama has generated controversy for the presidential candidate.

Rudd originally was a top member of the Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS, leading the famed 1968 Columbia University strikes in which hundreds of students seized several university buildings. He also served as spokesman for the strikes, attracting international media attention.

In 1968, Rudd traveled with the SDS to Cuba, defying U.S. travel bans, where he says he was heavily influenced by the legacy of Che Guevara and by Cuban-style revolution. When he returned to the U.S., Rudd advocated for Columbia's chapter of the SDS to carry out militant, aggressive action, but he was turned down. "

www.worldnetdaily.com

ANAMERICAN

Are you starting to understand why we're so tired of the Republican Party? Why don't you lecture us on Kerry wounding himself deliberately or something?

Notice I'm just asking for what crime you think, not which one you could prove.

#96 | Posted by Zed at 2008-10-05 09:38 AM


I don't recall mentioning a crime. I've just been posting Obama's background with a past criminal.

By the way, I don't appreciate your spamming this site.


WND has learned.

Well that about covers it Zed..

"I've just been posting Obama's background with a past criminal...."

Yes. We know. And that's all that you've got.

Ah....so you admit it then. Obama has a history with an unrepentant terrorist.

"Palin: Obama Pals Around With Terrorists"

This, mind you, from the same out-of-her-league paen to the pathetic who says, "There's a place in hell reserved for women who don't support other women" (www.huffingtonpost.com). Wisdom received from reading the label on a Starbuck's cup (and even then she got it wrong).

Consider the source: Liar . . . Loon . . . Loser

Aside from GWB of course....
#95 | Posted by Zap

Suggesting two wrongs make a right?

Thats setting a pretty low standard.


Suggesting two wrongs make a right?
~HC


Not at all just pointing AA statement was, well lacking in candor..


Thats setting a pretty low standard.
~HC


Speaking of GWB.

blog.laborfair.com

So that brings me to Madeleine and her famous quote, "there's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women." I completely agree; united we rise, divided we fall kind of idea. Former Secretary of State and New York Times bestselling author Madeleine Albright really hits it on the head with her willingness to tell it like it is.

Women have to be active listeners and interruptersbut when you interrupt, you have to know what you are talking about. I also think it is important for women to help one another. I have a saying: There is a special place in hell for women who don't.

www.time.com

Not at all just pointing AA statement was, well lacking in candor..
#106 | Posted by Zap

So you're in effect agreeing with him, lack of candor aside, that Obama hasn't been fully vetted?

I don't think you can have it both ways. You either agree that there are holes in his history that are worthy of investigation, or you believe that since it wasn't done with Bush that it's acceptable to ignore with Obama.

I guess that there's a third option, that you think there are no gaps in Obama's history. But if that is the case, I'm not sure I understand why you wouldn't rather have said so instead of bringing up the lack of vetting with respect to W. That just comes off as a deflection.


So you're in effect agreeing with him
~HC

No not at all. I was pointing out that his statement "No major party nominee for the presidency has led a life with, pardon the expression, black holes at crucial points in his life." was in fact BOGUS.

First of all Zap, if you followed the links you would notice that this was not my statement. Second, what black hole in Bush's history was not revealed to your satisfaction?


As for the rights attempts at linking an association with Ayers, please see: Association fallacy.


. Second, what black hole in Bush's history was not revealed to your satisfaction?

Well we could start with his TANG 'service'.


First of all Zap, if you followed the links you would notice that this was not my statement.
~AA

I do not see any quotes around your post below. I could only conclude they are yours. Perhaps you were only plagiarizing.

No major party nominee for the presidency has led a life with, pardon the expression, black holes at crucial points in his life.

I will research that when I return, Zap. I have to get ready to go to work.

I have one serious question for all Obama supporters:

Why are you more concerned with the background the vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin while you justify the buying of background information on the presidential nominee?

BTW, all these posts are from the last mentioned link.

#94 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-10-05 09:37 AM


Why are you more concerned with the background the vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin

Simply Obama has been under a microscope for some time now Sarah, not so much.

Wow, I messed up #116.

Why are you more concerned with the background "of" of the vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin while you justify the "burying" of background information on the presidential nominee?

Zap, why don't you insist Obama release his college records? They are relevant to those years we know nothing about - the years that led to his elevation to politics.

So Sarah is 44 and Obama is 48, and Ayers was doing this stuff when she was 4 and Obama was 8.

That's what she means. Let's examine her friends when she was 4.

Dumb and desperate doesn't start to describe this woman and her ancient maverdick running mate.

Sitdown, you are about as dumb as Obama. No one is saying that Obama had anything to do during Ayer's bombing years. It's his association with Ayers in Chicago after Obama became an adult.


Zap, why don't you insist Obama release his college records?
~AA

I covered that in #118

Check WingnutsDaily I'm sure they have a 'WND has learned' item on it.



It's his association with Ayers in Chicago after Obama became an adult.
~AA


See:

Guilt by association FALLACY.


when McCain started failing in Michigan, they pushed really negative ads (Ayers, Wright, etc) all to no avail!

when McCain started dropping in Ohio, they again pushed really negative ads (Ayers, Wright, etc) again to no avail, Obama's numbers rising!

Good Luck!

"No one is saying that Obama had anything to do during Ayer's bombing years. It's his association with Ayers in Chicago after Obama became an adult."
I met Ted Kaczynski, he attended same church as me, so my character can be assinated, that's how it works? sorry, Michigan and Ohio say otherwise!


Here's some help:

www.nizkor.org

en.wikipedia.org

www.fallacyfiles.org

www.outsidethebeltway.com

In declaring Obama's terrorist connection, I guess Palin is declaring war with the liberal media too: who have been minimizing or glossing over the unflattering portion of Obama's (and Biden's errors) background, while digging and exaggerating every dirt they could find on Palin.

The fact that so much vitriol coming from t